• Bug report

    From Leslie Given@1:275/91 to All on Sun Nov 20 02:04:00 2011
    irex log reads....
    bbs@xtcbox:~/rex$ ./rexl -daemon
    + 0:14 Command line: -daemon
    - 0:14 Crash recovery...
    0:14 Shutting down
    ! 0:14 Rex died from internal error 11.
    Aborted

    - Mystic BBS v1.09

    * Origin: FlupH * fluph.darktech.org (1:275/91)
  • From Dallas Hinton@1:153/715 to Leslie Given on Sun Nov 20 01:34:17 2011
    Hi Leslie -- on Nov 20 2011 at 02:04, you wrote:

    ! 0:14 Rex died from internal error 11.
    Aborted

    From the user manual:
    =========================
    Fatal errors (!)
    Rex died from internal error 5 (non-Linux versions)
    or
    Rex died from internal error 11 (Linux version)
    Usually this indicates a bug in Internet Rex. Send in a bug report, including a
    copy of your log file and your *.REX files.
    ==========================

    From my experience, this problem is often a corrupted exe or *.rex file. Run rexcfgw (or rexcfg) and open then close each item on the list (This rewrites the rex and dat files). Copy a new version of the exe into place - with luck that will be the end of the problem!



    Cheers... Dallas

    --- timEd/386 1.10.y2k+
    * Origin: The BandMaster, CANADA [telnet: bandmaster.tzo.com] (1:153/715)
  • From Joe Delahaye@1:249/303 to Leslie Given on Sun Nov 20 11:42:13 2011
    Re: Bug report
    By: Leslie Given to All on Sun Nov 20 2011 02:04:00

    irex log reads....
    bbs@xtcbox:~/rex$ ./rexl -daemon
    + 0:14 Command line: -daemon
    - 0:14 Crash recovery...
    0:14 Shutting down
    ! 0:14 Rex died from internal error 11.
    Aborted

    - Mystic BBS v1.09


    Looks like the linux version. Good luck tryiung to get that going
    --- SBBSecho 2.12-Win32
    * Origin: The Lions Den BBS, Trenton, On, CDN (1:249/303)
  • From Roy Witt@1:387/22 to Leslie Given on Sun Nov 20 12:42:19 2011

    20 Nov 11 11:42, Joe Delahaye wrote to Leslie Given:

    irex log reads....
    bbs@xtcbox:~/rex$ ./rexl -daemon
    + 0:14 Command line: -daemon
    - 0:14 Crash recovery...
    0:14 Shutting down
    ! 0:14 Rex died from internal error 11.
    Aborted

    - Mystic BBS v1.09

    Looks like you're using the linux version. Most of us here are using the Windows version, but there are some sysops who have had this same problem
    with Linux. It has something to do with linux files independent of IREX,
    but I forget what those are.


    R\%/itt


    ... Only 5% of all humans have the privilege to live in America.

    --- Twit(t) Filter v2.1 (C) 2000-10
    * Origin: SATX Alamo Area Net * South * Texas, USA * (1:387/22)
  • From Russell Tiedt@5:7105/1 to Leslie Given on Sun Nov 20 10:47:34 2011
    Hello Leslie.

    20 Nov 11 02:04, you wrote to all:

    irex log reads....
    bbs@xtcbox:~/rex$ ./rexl -daemon
    + 0:14 Command line: -daemon
    - 0:14 Crash recovery...
    0:14 Shutting down
    ! 0:14 Rex died from internal error 11.
    Aborted

    DNS problems?

    Russell

    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5
    * Origin: Rusty's BBS - Bloemfontein, Free State, South Africa (5:7105/1)
  • From Gert Andersen@2:230/150 to Russell Tiedt on Mon Nov 21 21:19:36 2011
    Hello Russell!

    Sun Nov 20 2011, Russell Tiedt wrote to Leslie Given:

    20 Nov 11 02:04, you wrote to all:

    irex log reads....
    bbs@xtcbox:~/rex$ ./rexl -daemon
    + 0:14 Command line: -daemon
    - 0:14 Crash recovery...
    0:14 Shutting down
    ! 0:14 Rex died from internal error 11.
    Aborted

    DNS problems?

    That is a old irex linux bug there not have been manages in irex and is dns lookup.
    The only way in irex linux to use dns lookup is not use dns hostnames but write
    down the used hostname and then either ping the hostnames ot getting the hostnames ip digits adresses and then use them in irex.



    Take care,
    Gert

    - Get the best with linux -

    --- Msged/LNX 6.2.0 (Linux/2.6.39-gentoo-r1 (x86_64))
    * Origin: http://www.kofobbs.dk (2:230/150)
  • From Frank Linhares@1:250/501 to Russell Tiedt on Tue Nov 22 00:10:43 2011
    Re: Bug report
    By: Russell Tiedt to Leslie Given on Sun Nov 20 2011 10:47 am

    irex log reads....
    bbs@xtcbox:~/rex$ ./rexl -daemon
    + 0:14 Command line: -daemon
    - 0:14 Crash recovery...
    0:14 Shutting down
    ! 0:14 Rex died from internal error 11.
    Aborted

    DNS problems?

    Sort of. Irex was built against the 2.4 kernel in Linux. The 2.6 kernel, which most distros run, does dns differently that the 2.4 one.

    Irex can't resolve dns names and crashes. The only work around is to use an ip address, but that doesn't help unless your uplink has a static address.

    |08[|07=|15! frank |07aka |15netsurge|08%%|15bbs-scene.org|08%%|15demonic |08[|07=|15! diskshop bbs |08. |15http/ftp/nntp/telnet |08. |15bbs.diskshop.ca |08[|07=|15! bbs-scene.org |08. |15where all the cool kids hang out

    --- SBBSecho 2.12-Linux
    * Origin: >> diskshop >> bbs.diskshop.ca >> http.telnet.nntp (1:250/501)
  • From Kevin Klement@1:342/77 to Gert Andersen on Tue Nov 22 17:19:07 2011
    Hi Gert,

    Monday November 21 2011 21:19, Gert Andersen wrote to Russell Tiedt:

    ping the hostnames ot getting the hostnames ip digits
    adresses and then use them in irex.

    Thats what I remember for a bug fix, use the IP instead of the domain name.

    Kevin
    klement@gypsy-designs.com

    --- Squish/386 v1.11
    * Origin: This unit must survive! (1:342/77)
  • From Gert Andersen@2:230/150 to Kevin Klement on Wed Nov 23 07:46:48 2011
    * Reply to message originally in area CarbonArea

    Hello Kevin!

    Tue Nov 22 2011, Kevin Klement wrote to Gert Andersen:

    ping the hostnames to getting the hostnames ip digits
    adresses and then use them in irex.

    Thats what I remember for a bug fix, use the IP instead of the domain
    name.

    That is the way to make irex to work to polling on irex linux version.



    Take care,
    Gert

    - Get the best with linux -

    --- Msged/LNX 6.2.0 (Linux/2.6.39-gentoo-r1 (x86_64))
    * Origin: http://www.kofobbs.dk (2:230/150)
  • From Kevin Klement@1:342/77 to Gert Andersen on Wed Nov 23 17:01:01 2011
    Hi Gert,

    Wednesday November 23 2011 07:46, Gert Andersen wrote to Kevin Klement:

    Thats what I remember for a bug fix, use the IP instead
    of the domain name.

    That is the way to make irex to work to polling on irex
    linux version.

    Wonder if he got it working...

    Kevin

    --- Squish/386 v1.11
    * Origin: This unit must survive! (1:342/77)
  • From Anthony Rico@1:275/91 to Dallas Hinton on Wed Nov 23 21:35:00 2011
    From my experience, this problem is often a corrupted exe or *.rex file. R

    rexcfgw (or rexcfg) and open then close each item on the list (This rewrit the rex and dat files). Copy a new version of the exe into place - with lu that will be the end of the problem!





    I started having this issue when I attempted to upgrade from debian 3.0
    to a newer distro.

    What information do you need to get this problem debugged and fixed?

    For me irex does not work on anything newer then 3.0 for debian. In my
    opinion, I think it needs a new recompile on a newer distro because of the updated libs.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.09 (Windows)
    * Origin: FlupH * fluph.darktech.org (1:275/91)
  • From Dallas Hinton@1:153/715 to Anthony Rico on Wed Nov 23 22:54:16 2011
    Hi Anthony -- on Nov 23 2011 at 21:35, you wrote:

    I started having this issue when I attempted to upgrade from debian
    3.0 to a newer distro.

    What information do you need to get this problem debugged and fixed?


    A lot more knowledge! :-) I looked at your tear line and assumed (!) you were running Windows. *nix versions are not something I know much about, so I can't help you here. Sorry!


    Cheers... Dallas

    --- timEd/386 1.10.y2k+
    * Origin: The BandMaster, CANADA [telnet: bandmaster.tzo.com] (1:153/715)
  • From Anthony Rico@1:275/91 to Kevin Klement on Fri Nov 25 00:20:00 2011

    On 11-23-11, Kevin Klement said the following...

    Hi Gert,

    Wednesday November 23 2011 07:46, Gert Andersen wrote to Kevin Klement:

    Thats what I remember for a bug fix, use the IP instead
    of the domain name.

    That is the way to make irex to work to polling on irex

    I will try the IP instead of the domain name.

    I acutally purchased my version of irex and would like to get hold of the developers to report the issues that I have experienced with irex.

    Does anyone know how I can do this?

    --- Mystic BBS v1.09 (Windows)
    * Origin: FlupH * fluph.darktech.org (1:275/91)
  • From Anthony Rico@1:275/91 to Anthony Rico on Fri Nov 25 01:31:00 2011
    I will try the IP instead of the domain name.

    All I actually tried changing the domain to an IP address and it still
    crashes with internal error 11.

    I assumming its signal 11.

    Signal 11, or officially know as "segmentation fault", means that the
    program accessed a memory location that was not assigned. That's usually a
    bug in the program. So if you're writing your own program, that's the most likely cause. However, this FAQ will concentrate on the possibilities
    besides that.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.09 (Windows)
    * Origin: FlupH * fluph.darktech.org (1:275/91)
  • From Kevin Klement@1:342/77 to Anthony Rico on Sat Nov 26 15:14:06 2011
    Hi Anthony,

    Friday November 25 2011 00:20, Anthony Rico wrote to Kevin Klement:

    Does anyone know how I can do this?

    He's my NC @ 1:342/0


    Kevin
    klement@gypsy-designs.com

    --- Squish/386 v1.11
    * Origin: This unit must survive! (1:342/77)
  • From Anthony Rico@1:275/91 to Kevin Klement on Mon Nov 28 18:34:00 2011
    On 11-26-11, Kevin Klement said the following...

    Hi Anthony,

    Friday November 25 2011 00:20, Anthony Rico wrote to Kevin Klement:

    Does anyone know how I can do this?

    He's my NC @ 1:342/0


    I'm stilling setting up my areas in mysticbbs, so I have sent you an email
    in hopes we can get this fixed.

    tnx.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.09 (Windows)
    * Origin: FlupH * fluph.darktech.org (1:275/91)
  • From Kevin Klement@1:342/77 to Anthony Rico on Tue Nov 29 13:16:45 2011
    Hi Anthony,

    sent you an email in hopes we can get this fixed.

    Got it.. replied.

    Kevin

    --- Squish/386 v1.11
    * Origin: This unit must survive! (1:342/77)
  • From Kevin Klement@1:342/77 to Anthony Rico on Tue Nov 29 17:32:22 2011
    Hi Anthony,

    Monday November 28 2011 18:34, Anthony Rico wrote to Kevin Klement:

    -+- Mystic BBS v1.09 (Windows)
    ^^^^^^^^^

    Say.. question. Why don't you just use the Win version?

    Kevin

    --- Squish/386 v1.11
    * Origin: This unit must survive! (1:342/77)
  • From Leslie Given@1:275/91 to Kevin Klement on Wed Nov 30 14:56:00 2011
    On 11-29-11, Kevin Klement said the following...
    -+- Mystic BBS v1.09 (Windows)
    ^^^^^^^^^
    Say.. question. Why don't you just use the Win version?

    Hello Kevin, I do use the windows version of iREX, on this system. Anthony
    is running Mystic BBS v1.10a09 (Linux) and also payed good money in the
    past. He has recently returned to fidonet, (same as me) but has not had
    time to add all of the echo yet. That is why he is posting on my board.
    Sysop's are users also... at least some are. I told Anthony, that if he
    could not get the iREX (Linux) updated {fixed}. That i've been looking at Dbridge that supports Binkd and it looks real sweet to me. I think that if these software authors that don't mined talking peoples money and support
    their product should just fell to the way-side. Mark it down as a loss and
    move on to something else. Take care...

    -Les

    --- Mystic BBS v1.09 (Windows)
    * Origin: FlupH * fluph.darktech.org (1:275/91)
  • From Kevin Klement@1:342/77 to Leslie Given on Tue Dec 6 16:01:05 2011
    Hi Leslie,

    been looking at Dbridge that supports Binkd and it looks
    real sweet to me. I think that if these software authors

    I guess Dbridge is another option, if Anthony can't get REX working.

    Kevin

    --- Squish/386 v1.11
    * Origin: This unit must survive! (1:342/77)
  • From Jame Clay@1:120/546 to Anthony Rico on Mon Dec 19 03:28:10 2011
    Anthony,

    For me irex does not work on anything newer then 3.0 for debian.

    I've been seeing similar issues so what I've created is a Debian v3 virtual machine in order to run it, using [1] (from [2]) as the source for the install,
    on a system with KVM capable hardware. (Used virt-manager on a Debian v7 host system.)
    The VM is installed on a 1 gig 'harddrive', which is partitioned into a root and a swap partition. The installation, so far, is only taking up 127M so I've
    plenty of room to to experiment... (And if needed, it would be easy enough to add more...)


    In my opinion, I think it needs a new recompile on a newer distro
    because of the updated libs.

    That would be a good idea but I understand that the author no longer has the source code...



    Jame
    [1] debian-30r6-dvd-i386-binary-1.iso [2] http://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimage/archive/3.0_r6/i386/iso-dvd/


    --- BBBS/LiI v4.01 Flag
    * Origin: BBBS Info (1:120/546)
  • From Robert Wolfe@1:261/20 to Leslie Given on Wed Jan 4 18:03:58 2012
    Leslie Given wrote to Kevin Klement:

    Hello Kevin, I do use the windows version of iREX, on this system. Anthony is running Mystic BBS v1.10a09 (Linux) and also payed good money in the past. He has recently returned to fidonet, (same as me) but has not had time to add all of the echo yet. That is why he is posting on my board. Sysop's are users also... at least some are. I told Anthony, that if he could not get the iREX (Linux) updated {fixed}. That i've been looking at Dbridge that supports Binkd and it looks real sweet to me. I think that if these software authors that don't mined talking peoples money and support their product should just fell to the way-side. Mark it down as a loss and move on to something else. Take care...

    With newer kernels, 2.31 and lower will not resolve domain names properly when trying to connect via binkp. However, if you use the IP address of the remote binkp system instead, it will connect just fine. I doubt Charles Cruden will ever update Internet Rex past version 2.31. There is a 2.67 beta available to us beta testers, but I believe it suffers from the same illness in the linux version.


    Greetings, Robert Wolfe

    --- MBSE BBS v0.95.14 (GNU/Linux-i386)
    * Origin: Omicron Theta | Amherst, NY | bbs.fpsoft.net (1:261/20)
  • From Leslie Given@1:275/91 to Robert Wolfe on Thu Jan 5 05:18:00 2012
    On 01-04-12, Robert Wolfe said the following...
    With newer kernels, 2.31 and lower will not resolve domain names properly trying to connect via binkp. However, if you use the IP address of the re binkp system instead, it will connect just fine. I doubt Charles Cruden w ever update Internet Rex past version 2.31. There is a 2.67 beta availabl us beta testers, but I believe it suffers from the same illness in the lin version.

    Hello Robert, I wasn't aware of the newer beta version. Thanks for the
    info, and ill past it on to Anthony Rico @ 1:267/152 if he missed this
    echo thread. Nice to see you still around after all these years. Have a
    great 2012 and beyond.

    |15!|07:|08_|15S|07kuz |21|15dA |13FlupHy|16|15 S|07quirrel ate my nuts|15!

    --- Mystic BBS v1.09 (Windows)
    * Origin: FlupH * fluph.darktech.org (1:275/91)
  • From Robert Wolfe@1:261/20 to Leslie Given on Fri Jan 6 08:23:32 2012
    Leslie Given wrote to Robert Wolfe:

    Hello Robert, I wasn't aware of the newer beta version. Thanks for the info, and ill past it on to Anthony Rico @ 1:267/152 if he missed this
    echo thread. Nice to see you still around after all these years. Have a great 2012 and beyond.

    Thanks. For about a week I had pulled the plug on the BBS completely, thinking
    about giving up on the hobby there for a while, but then I decided that running a BBS is in my blood and I doubt I will ever give it up :)


    Greetings, Robert Wolfe

    --- MBSE BBS v0.95.14 (GNU/Linux-i386)
    * Origin: Omicron Theta | Amherst, NY | bbs.fpsoft.net (1:261/20)
  • From Leslie Given@1:275/91 to Robert Wolfe on Fri Jan 6 23:55:00 2012
    On 01-06-12, Robert Wolfe said the following...

    running a BBS is in my blood and I doubt I will ever give it up :)

    I'm glad that you did stick around. I retired a year ago, and getting back
    to my roots has been a real joy. A user from Belguim telneted in
    today, ...makes it nice to see a resurgency in the Force (Luke) Robert.

    |15!|07:|08_|15S|07kuz |21|15dA |13FlupHy|16|15 S|07quirrel ate my nuts|15!

    --- Mystic BBS v1.09 (Windows)
    * Origin: FlupH * fluph.darktech.org (1:275/91)
  • From Robert Wolfe@1:261/20 to Jame Clay on Tue Feb 7 13:20:53 2012
    Jame Clay wrote to Anthony Rico:

    For me irex does not work on anything newer then 3.0 for debian.

    I've been seeing similar issues so what I've created is a Debian v3 virtual
    machine in order to run it, using [1] (from [2]) as the source for the install, on a system with KVM capable hardware. (Used virt-manager on a Debian v7 host system.)
    The VM is installed on a 1 gig 'harddrive', which is partitioned into a root
    and a swap partition. The installation, so far, is only taking up 127M so I've plenty of room to to experiment... (And if needed, it would be easy enough to add more...)


    In my opinion, I think it needs a new recompile on a newer distro
    because of the updated libs.

    That would be a good idea but I understand that the author no longer has the
    source code...

    This is my understanding as well.

    Greetings, Robert Wolfe

    --- MBSE BBS v0.95.14 (GNU/Linux-i386)
    * Origin: Omicron Theta | Amherst, NY | bbs.fpsoft.net (1:261/20)
  • From Robert Wolfe@1:261/20 to Leslie Given on Tue Feb 7 13:22:27 2012
    Leslie Given wrote to Robert Wolfe:

    echo thread. Nice to see you still around after all these years. Have a great 2012 and beyond.

    Thanks. Nice to be remember for something ;)

    Greetings, Robert Wolfe

    --- MBSE BBS v0.95.14 (GNU/Linux-i386)
    * Origin: Omicron Theta | Amherst, NY | bbs.fpsoft.net (1:261/20)
  • From Anthony Rico@1:275/91 to Kevin Klement on Thu Mar 8 01:33:00 2012

    -+- Mystic BBS v1.09 (Windows)
    ^^^^^^^^^

    Say.. question. Why don't you just use the Win version?


    I run a full linux install for many reasons.

    Irex needs to be recompiled with updated glib. The current version crashes because it is staticly linked to a specfic glib version.

    xtcbox.org

    --- Mystic BBS v1.09 (Windows)
    * Origin: FlupH * fluph.darktech.org (1:275/91)
  • From ROBERT WOLFE@1:261/20 to ANTHONY RICO on Fri Mar 9 01:06:00 2012

    Say.. question. Why don't you just use the Win version?


    I run a full linux install for many reasons.

    Irex needs to be recompiled with updated glib. The current version crashes AR>because it is staticly linked to a specfic glib version.

    Yeah, but doubt Charles can do it now since IIRC he lost the source
    code.
    ---
    ■ OLXWin 1.00a ■ MSI - Connecting The World (tm)
    * Origin: Omicron Theta BBS (1:261/20)
  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to ROBERT WOLFE on Fri Mar 9 11:20:07 2012
    Hello ROBERT,

    On Friday March 09 2012 01:06, you wrote to ANTHONY RICO:

    Irex needs to be recompiled with updated glib. The current version
    crashes because it is staticly linked to a specfic glib version.

    Yeah, but doubt Charles can do it now since IIRC he lost the source
    code.

    That is just a rumour that was never confirmed by Charles.

    Cheers, Michiel

    --- GoldED+/W32-MINGW 1.1.5-b20110320
    * Origin: http://www.vlist.org (2:280/5555)
  • From Joe Delahaye@1:249/303 to ROBERT WOLFE on Fri Mar 9 09:43:02 2012
    Re: Re: Bug report
    By: ROBERT WOLFE to ANTHONY RICO on Fri Mar 09 2012 01:06:00

    Yeah, but doubt Charles can do it now since IIRC he lost the source
    code.


    So the story goes. He has never come out and said so.
    --- SBBSecho 2.12-Win32
    * Origin: The Lions Den BBS, Trenton, On, CDN (1:249/303)
  • From Bob Seaborn@1:140/12 to Joe Delahaye on Fri Mar 9 23:19:00 2012
    Re: Re: Bug report
    By: ROBERT WOLFE to ANTHONY RICO on Fri Mar 09 2012 01:06:00

    Yeah, but doubt Charles can do it now since IIRC he lost the source
    code.


    So the story goes. He has never come out and said so.



    Charles confirmed to me that he still DOES have the source. This was done in a voice phone call about other matters a couple of years ago. He did say that he simply doesn't have more time to work with it as life has interrupted his plans to do so. I didn't push him on the matter.





    .....Bob

    --- GEcho/32 & IM 2.50
    * Origin: http://www.fidonet.ca (1:140/12)
  • From Anthony Rico@1:275/91 to Bob Seaborn on Sat Mar 10 02:42:00 2012


    Charles confirmed to me that he still DOES have the source. This wa done in a voice phone call about other matters a couple of years ago. He say that he simply doesn't have more time to work with it as life has interrupted his plans to do so. I didn't push him on the matter.




    Is there a means if you registered IREX to get in contact with charles?

    He may just need to do a simple compile and not even change anything which should be really quick.

    http://xtcbox.org

    --- Mystic BBS v1.09 (Windows)
    * Origin: FlupH * fluph.darktech.org (1:275/91)
  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Anthony Rico on Sat Mar 10 12:09:55 2012
    Hello Anthony,

    On Saturday March 10 2012 02:42, you wrote:

    Is there a means if you registered IREX to get in contact with
    charles?

    I am afraid not.

    Charles is nodelisted as 1:340/0 and 1:340/806, but there is no point in netmailing him. Over the years I have attempted to get in touch with him in various capacities. As a registered Irex user, as a fellow sysop and as FTSC member. To no avail, he does not respond.

    It is painfully obvious that Charles has lost interest in Fidonet in general and in Irex in particular. That happens. We live, learn and turn and while we do, we shift priorities. No problem.

    What I do have a problem with is that he sits on the source. Assuming he still has it of course. Many programmers who lost interest and left Fidonet have released the source of their product into the public domain. Golded and Fmail come to mind. That way their products live on and benefit the Fidonet community.

    But Charles just sits on it. :-(

    He may just need to do a simple compile and not even change anything
    which should be really quick.

    Forget it. The last release was over 7 years ago. Nothing has happened since. I
    have given up. What we need is IPv6 support and this is obviously not going to happen. I'v had a lot of fun with Irex, but now is the time to say goodbye. I am looking for an alternative - one that WILL support Ipv6 - and when I found it, I will dump Irex.


    Cheers, Michiel

    --- GoldED+/W32-MINGW 1.1.5-b20110320
    * Origin: http://www.vlist.org (2:280/5555)
  • From ROBERT WOLFE@1:261/20 to BOB SEABORN on Sat Mar 10 08:50:00 2012
    Bob Seaborn wrote to Joe Delahaye <=-

    Charles confirmed to me that he still DOES have the source. This was done in a voice phone call about other matters a couple of years
    ago. He did say that he simply doesn't have more time to work with it
    as life has interrupted his plans to do so. I didn't push him on the matter.

    (As I try to remember how to use tedit *smiles*.)

    Okay, thank you for clearing this up. I was just passing along what I
    had heard.

    ... So easy, a child could do it. Child sold separately.
    --- MultiMail/OS/2 v0.49
    * Origin: Omicron Theta BBS (1:261/20)
  • From ROBERT WOLFE@1:261/20 to ANTHONY RICO on Sat Mar 10 08:51:00 2012
    Anthony Rico wrote to Bob Seaborn <=-

    Is there a means if you registered IREX to get in contact with charles?

    He may just need to do a simple compile and not even change anything
    which should be really quick.

    When it came to my registration questions, a quick email to him did
    wonders. I believe that his email address is in the IREX documentation.

    ... Direct from the Ministry of Silly Walks
    --- MultiMail/OS/2 v0.49
    * Origin: Omicron Theta BBS (1:261/20)
  • From Bob Seaborn@1:140/12 to Anthony Rico on Sat Mar 10 09:01:00 2012


    Charles confirmed to me that he still DOES have the source. This
    wa
    done in a voice phone call about other matters a couple of years ago.
    He
    say that he simply doesn't have more time to work with it as life has
    interrupted his plans to do so. I didn't push him on the matter.




    Is there a means if you registered IREX to get in contact with charles?


    *I* happen to be RC17, Charles is one of my NC's. As such, I happen to have his home and office phone numbers, and can talk voice with him when the need arises.

    For you or anyone wishing to contact him regarding iRex, I would simply suggest that you use the email/web information that you received when you registered iRex. I will NOT contact him on behalf of any registered (or non- registered) user, sorry.



    He may just need to do a simple compile and not even change anything
    which
    should be really quick.

    http://xtcbox.org


    That would be entirely up to him.





    .....Bob

    --- GEcho/32 & IM 2.50
    * Origin: http://www.fidonet.ca (1:140/12)
  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Michiel van der Vlist on Sat Mar 10 14:56:13 2012
    Hi,

    On 10 Mar 12 12:09, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Anthony Rico:
    about: "Bug report":

    MvdV> What I do have a problem with is that he sits on the source.
    MvdV> Assuming he still has it of course. Many programmers who lost
    MvdV> interest and left Fidonet have released the source of their product
    MvdV> into the public domain. Golded and Fmail come to mind. That way
    MvdV> their products live on and benefit the Fidonet community.

    MvdV> But Charles just sits on it. :-(

    I think he still earns a little money with it...

    Bye, Wilfred.


    --- FMail-W32-1.64-B20111120
    * Origin: Amiga Offline BBS Lisse (2:280/464)
  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Wilfred van Velzen on Sat Mar 10 15:34:58 2012
    Hello Wilfred,

    On Saturday March 10 2012 14:56, you wrote to me:

    MvdV>> But Charles just sits on it. :-(

    I think he still earns a little money with it...

    I wonder who would still pay for buggy software that had no official update in over a decade and in all likehood will never ever have another bug fix. Especially since there are so many free alternatives.

    When one buys software, support is implicit in the deal. Without support, the product loses most of its value. I put some question marks to the ethics of accepting money in such a case.


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to ROBERT WOLFE on Sat Mar 10 17:50:12 2012
    Hello ROBERT,

    On Saturday March 10 2012 08:51, you wrote to ANTHONY RICO:

    When it came to my registration questions, a quick email to him did wonders. I believe that his email address is in the IREX
    documentation.

    Are you telling us that you actually registered and PAYED for a product that had no support in over a decade?


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Joe Delahaye@1:249/303 to Bob Seaborn on Sat Mar 10 14:07:54 2012
    Re: Bug report
    By: Bob Seaborn to Joe Delahaye on Fri Mar 09 2012 23:19:00

    So the story goes. He has never come out and said so.



    Charles confirmed to me that he still DOES have the source. This was done in a voice phone call about other matters a couple of years ago. He did say that he simply doesn't have more time to work with it as life has interrupted his plans to do so. I didn't push him on the matter.


    I think I remember you telling me this before., which is why I wrote what I did.
    --- SBBSecho 2.12-Win32
    * Origin: The Lions Den BBS, Trenton, On, CDN (1:249/303)
  • From ROBERT WOLFE@1:261/20 to MICHIEL VAN DER VLIST on Sat Mar 10 14:47:00 2012
    Michiel van der Vlist wrote to ROBERT WOLFE <=-

    When it came to my registration questions, a quick email to him did wonders. I believe that his email address is in the IREX
    documentation.

    Are you telling us that you actually registered and PAYED for a product that had no support in over a decade?

    Yes, and I have to say that I can tell you I am not the only one. The
    only support others get it from each other. Granted, on occasion I have
    had the pleasure of getting a question answered from Charles once in a
    blue moon.

    --- MultiMail/OS/2 v0.49
    * Origin: Omicron Theta BBS (1:261/20)
  • From james coyle@1:250/310 to Michiel van der Vlist on Sun Mar 11 04:08:00 2012
    What I do have a problem with is that he sits on the source. Assuming he s has it of course. Many programmers who lost interest and left Fidonet have released the source of their product into the public domain. Golded and Fm come to mind. That way their products live on and benefit the Fidonet community.

    But Charles just sits on it. :-(

    He is one of very many. FASTECHO comes to mind as it was my tosser back
    in the day and I think it has a website and no updates or code. Its just
    going to happen I think. Some people do not care anymore even to spend
    the few hours to go open source. There are a zillion and one doors and utilities, etc that never will have their code released.

    However, on another message network someone recently claimed that they had
    just paid (within a month or so) for IREX and received a response and a key.

    *If* that is true, to me its fraud and it needs to be stopped.

    He needs to release it, or work on it (if he really is still taking peoples money). Or we need to start a project to replace it (open sourced). I
    have an open sourced framework that when combined with Argus or something
    could recreate IREX and then some with only a little group effort from programmers.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.10 A11 (Linux)
    * Origin: Clutch BBS * telnet://clutch.darktech.org (1:250/310)
  • From Robert Wolfe@1:261/20 to James Coyle on Mon Mar 12 00:04:10 2012

    However, on another message network someone recently claimed that they had just paid (within a month or so) for IREX and received a response and a key. *If* that is true, to me its fraud and it needs to be stopped.

    Um, I believe that was me, and if I need to forward a copy of my receipt from BMT Micro as well as a copy of my CC statement, then I will. I don't appreciate the insinuation that you are leading up to here.

    And to me, as long as I get what I pay for, my registration key, then I am fine
    with that. To me, "fraud" only comes into play if he took my money and I got absolutely nothing for it. In this case, I paid for a license, and I got just that. All happy.

    --- BBBS/2 v4.01 Flag
    * Origin: Omicron Theta * Buffalo, NY * telnet://fpsoft.net:2323 (1:261/20)
  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to james coyle on Mon Mar 12 22:40:39 2012
    Hello james,

    On Sunday March 11 2012 04:08, you wrote to me:

    However, on another message network someone recently claimed that they
    had just paid (within a month or so) for IREX and received a response
    and a key.

    *If* that is true, to me its fraud and it needs to be stopped.

    I have no reason tp doubt that is indeed what happened. But I would not call it
    fraud. That's to big a word. I'd call it indecent salesmanship.

    He needs to release it, or work on it (if he really is still taking peoples money). Or we need to start a project to replace it (open sourced).

    I can understand the concept of limited commercial lifetime of products. I can understand and accept that support for a product is not forever. At some point in time it stops. But... that should work both ways. When the support stops, the revenue should stop as well. Support is INCLUDED in the deal when buying a product. So stopping the support but continuing to accept money for it, is unethical. Just my EUR 0.02

    I have an open sourced framework that when combined with Argus or something could recreate IREX and then some with only a little group effort from programmers.

    Will all due respect, I think that is too ambitious. Recreating Irex from scratch is a major project, I do not think with the few programmers left in FidoNet we can raise the manpower to do that.


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Anthony Rico@1:275/91 to Michiel van der Vlist on Tue Mar 13 00:28:00 2012
    No, just you and the seller. I for one am not happy at all. And I assume t goes for many like me who paid for a fully functional product over a decad ago.


    It shouldn't be a big deal to recompile irex on a newer distro, not sure
    what he is waiting for.

    http://xtcbox.org

    --- Mystic BBS v1.09 (Windows)
    * Origin: FlupH * fluph.darktech.org (1:275/91)
  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Anthony Rico on Tue Mar 13 16:25:07 2012
    Hello Anthony,

    On Tuesday March 13 2012 00:28, you wrote to me:

    No, just you and the seller. I for one am not happy at all. And I
    assume t goes for many like me who paid for a fully functional
    product over a decad ago.

    It shouldn't be a big deal to recompile irex on a newer distro, not
    sure what he is waiting for.

    So, are you going to tell Charles?


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Benny Pedersen@2:230/0 to Anthony Rico on Tue Mar 13 20:45:58 2012
    Hello Anthony!

    13 Mar 2012 00:28, Anthony Rico wrote to Michiel van der Vlist:

    No, just you and the seller. I for one am not happy at all. And I
    assume t goes for many like me who paid for a fully functional product
    over a decad ago.


    It shouldn't be a big deal to recompile irex on a newer distro, not
    sure what he is waiting for.

    code is not lost ?

    http://xtcbox.org

    why not put it on github so ?

    start asking for pgp keys :)

    btw that page is complete empty seen in links :/


    Regards Benny

    ... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

    --- Msged/LNX 6.2.0 (Linux/3.1.10-gentoo-r1 (i686))
    * Origin: home.junc.org where qico is waiting (2:230/0)
  • From Robert Wolfe@1:261/20 to Michiel Van Der Vlist on Tue Mar 13 17:17:02 2012
    On Tuesday March 13 2012 00:28, you wrote to me:

    No, just you and the seller. I for one am not happy at all. And I
    assume t goes for many like me who paid for a fully functional
    product over a decad ago.

    (To the original poster.) So what about Internet Rex isn't functioning for you?
    I paid for a fulling functioning product and it is working perfectly for me. If you are having issues with Internet Rex, Anthony, then perhaps you could post your issue/question here and I am sure someone here would be more than happy to help you out.

    It shouldn't be a big deal to recompile irex on a newer distro, not
    sure what he is waiting for.

    (To the original poster) Let's see, perhaps he is waiting for everyday life to grant him some time do work on the program some more?

    So, are you going to tell Charles?

    I'd like to hear his response :)

    --- BBBS/2 v4.01 Flag
    * Origin: Omicron Theta * Buffalo, NY * telnet://fpsoft.net:2323 (1:261/20)
  • From Robert Wolfe@1:261/20 to Benny Pedersen on Tue Mar 13 17:19:32 2012
    It shouldn't be a big deal to recompile irex on a newer distro, not
    sure what he is waiting for.

    code is not lost ?

    I heard from Charles himself the other day. According to him, IREX development
    is "on hiatus" (his words) while everyday life does not afford him the time to continue development for now.

    --- BBBS/2 v4.01 Flag
    * Origin: Omicron Theta * Buffalo, NY * telnet://fpsoft.net:2323 (1:261/20)
  • From james coyle@1:250/310 to Robert Wolfe on Tue Mar 13 23:26:00 2012
    Um, I believe that was me, and if I need to forward a copy of my receipt f BMT Micro as well as a copy of my CC statement, then I will. I don't appreciate the insinuation that you are leading up to here.

    I am not sure where there is confusion or why you would even mention your credit card statement?

    Some people stated (unless I am misunderstanding) that they paid for the
    1000 node Linux version, got the key, and the software does not even
    execute on Linux.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.10 A11 (Linux)
    * Origin: Clutch BBS * telnet://clutch.darktech.org (1:250/310)
  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12 to james coyle on Wed Mar 14 13:26:20 2012

    Some people stated (unless I am misunderstanding) that they paid
    for the 1000 node Linux version, got the key, and the software does
    not even execute on Linux.

    no... the problem is that it cannot perform domain name lookups because it uses
    an old method that is no longer supported by the newer libs... it works just fine with IP numbers, though... especially since there is no DNS lookup for them ;)

    )\/(ark


    * Origin: (1:3634/12)
  • From Benny Pedersen@2:230/0 to mark lewis on Wed Mar 14 22:09:30 2012
    Hello mark!

    14 Mar 2012 13:26, mark lewis wrote to james coyle:

    no... the problem is that it cannot perform domain name lookups
    because it uses an old method that is no longer supported by the newer libs... it works just fine with IP numbers, though... especially since there is no DNS lookup for them ;)

    so stop using irex to binkd nodes ?, use binkd when possible


    Regards Benny

    ... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

    --- Msged/LNX 6.2.0 (Linux/3.1.10-gentoo-r1 (i686))
    * Origin: home.junc.org where qico is waiting (2:230/0)
  • From Kevin Klement@1:342/77 to mark lewis on Wed Mar 14 16:46:46 2012
    Hi mark,

    supported by the newer libs... it works just fine with IP
    numbers, though... especially since there is no DNS lookup
    for them ;)

    I thought it works with IP numbers, (Linux) Some people say it does and some say it doesn't.


    Kevin
    klement@gypsy-designs.com

    --- Squish/386 v1.11
    * Origin: This unit must survive! (1:342/77)
  • From Ben Ritchey@1:393/68 to Kevin Klement on Wed Mar 14 22:07:07 2012
    * An ongoing debate between Kevin Klement and mark lewis rages on ...

    supported by the newer libs... it works just fine with IP
    numbers, though... especially since there is no DNS lookup
    I thought it works with IP numbers, (Linux) Some people say it does
    and some say it doesn't.

    As a beta tester (retired) for irex I can confirm that normal FTP, mail, BinkP and directory transfers work fine in the linux version, though ONLY using IP numbers. If you try to bring up the FTP server it will crash the first time it does a DNS lookup (which it will). This problem is confined to Linux btw, DOS &
    Wins are fine.

    On a previous note, at one time I was informed by Charles he had lost a drive with irex source on it and dubious backup or something to that effect. Evidently he recovered everything important as newer verions kept coming at the
    time, so rumors of lost source are unfounded IMHO.


    --
    Be well :^)

    : Ben aka cMech Web: http://cmech.dynip.com:8080
    : Home page: http://users.lusfiber.net/~fido4cmech
    : Positronium BBS: telnet://cmech.dynip.com
    :
    + WildCat! Board 24/7 +1-337-984-4794 any BAUD 8,N,1
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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Robert Wolfe on Thu Mar 15 11:29:20 2012
    Hello Robert,

    On Tuesday March 13 2012 17:17, you wrote to me:

    (To the original poster.) So what about Internet Rex isn't functioning
    for you?

    1) It occasionally crashes when a specific node or some specific nodes call in.
    Roy can confirm that, as his system used to crash when I called him.

    2) When entering a new node in the node manager it reads the nodelist, But it only finds the host name if it is in the system name field. It does not find it
    when the host name is a parameter after the protocol flag or the INA flag.

    3) A parameter after a protocol flag is always interpreted as a port number. Even if it clearly is not.

    4) When no host name is in the system name field, it will try the f.n.z.fidonet.net method. This is not overridable and the domain is not configurable.

    5) When the nodelist is updated, it will not update the data in the node manager. This is particularly annoying when a host name or IP address changes. 6) It will not send an attached file when the crash bit of the message is set, unless the message is empty.

    7) When evaluating the Tzy flags, it uses local time instead of UTC.

    8) No IPv6

    I paid for a fulling functioning product and it is working
    perfectly for me.

    I also paid for the full version (1000 nodes, all OS's) and it is NOT working to satisfaction for me,

    If you are having issues with Internet Rex, Anthony, then perhaps you could post your issue/question here and I am sure someone here would
    be more than happy to help you out.

    We have been through all that YEARS ago.

    It shouldn't be a big deal to recompile irex on a newer distro, not
    sure what he is waiting for.

    (To the original poster) Let's see, perhaps he is waiting for everyday life to grant him some time do work on the program some more?

    I have been waiting for a decade, my patience has run out.

    So, are you going to tell Charles?

    I'd like to hear his response :)

    Don't hold your breath.

    Cheers, Michiel

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    * Origin: http://www.vlist.org (2:280/5555)
  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Robert Wolfe on Thu Mar 15 11:33:13 2012
    Hello Robert,

    On Tuesday March 13 2012 17:19, you wrote to Benny Pedersen:

    I heard from Charles himself the other day. According to him, IREX development is "on hiatus" (his words) while everyday life does not
    afford him the time to continue development for now.

    As I wrote in another message: that happens.

    But if he were a man he would not just tell that to a few selected friends, but
    he would come here and look ALL his paying customers in the eye and tell them the truth.

    Plus that if he were honest, he would stop taking money when he stopped support.


    Cheers, Michiel

    --- GoldED+/W32-MINGW 1.1.5-b20110320
    * Origin: http://www.vlist.org (2:280/5555)
  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to mark lewis on Thu Mar 15 11:37:30 2012
    Hello mark,

    On Wednesday March 14 2012 13:26, you wrote to james coyle:

    no... the problem is that it cannot perform domain name lookups
    because it uses an old method that is no longer supported by the newer libs... it works just fine with IP numbers, though... especially since there is no DNS lookup for them ;)

    That workaround works only for static IP numbers. Many - if not most - nodes are on a dynamic IP.


    Cheers, Michiel

    --- GoldED+/W32-MINGW 1.1.5-b20110320
    * Origin: http://www.vlist.org (2:280/5555)
  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12 to Kevin Klement on Thu Mar 15 13:31:38 2012

    supported by the newer libs... it works just fine with IP
    numbers, though... especially since there is no DNS lookup
    for them ;)

    I thought it works with IP numbers, (Linux) Some people say it does
    and some say it doesn't.

    my understanding is that it (the linux flavor of IREX) does work with IP numbers... that is what i wrote above ;)

    it works with IP numbers because there's no dns lookup needed...

    )\/(ark


    * Origin: (1:3634/12)
  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12 to Michiel van der Vlist on Thu Mar 15 13:32:56 2012

    no... the problem is that it cannot perform domain name lookups
    because it uses an old method that is no longer supported by the newer libs... it works just fine with IP numbers, though... especially since there is no DNS lookup for them ;)

    MvdV> That workaround works only for static IP numbers. Many - if not
    MvdV> most - nodes are on a dynamic IP.

    true but it does work for them as well... one just needs to update the entry in
    IREX before attempting the connect... yes, a PITA but a possibility...

    )\/(ark


    * Origin: (1:3634/12)
  • From Robert Wolfe@1:261/20 to Kevin Klement on Thu Mar 15 20:26:20 2012
    supported by the newer libs... it works just fine with IP
    numbers, though... especially since there is no DNS lookup
    for them ;)

    I thought it works with IP numbers, (Linux) Some people say it does and some say it doesn't.

    I think it depends on what version of the GLIBC libraries are installed on a given system.

    --- BBBS/2 v4.01 Flag
    * Origin: Omicron Theta * Buffalo, NY * telnet://fpsoft.net:2323 (1:261/20)
  • From Anthony Rico@1:275/91 to Michiel van der Vlist on Fri Mar 16 02:50:00 2012
    there is no DNS lookup for them ;)

    That workaround works only for static IP numbers. Many - if not most - nod are on a dynamic IP.


    Even that does not work which is test in debian 5 final.

    http://xtcbox.org

    --- Mystic BBS v1.09 (Windows)
    * Origin: FlupH * fluph.darktech.org (1:275/91)
  • From Roy Witt@1:387/22 to Michiel van der Vlist on Fri Mar 16 03:55:41 2012

    15 Mar 12 11:29, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Robert Wolfe:

    MvdV> Hello Robert,

    MvdV> On Tuesday March 13 2012 17:17, you wrote to me:

    (To the original poster.) So what about Internet Rex isn't
    functioning for you?

    MvdV> 1) It occasionally crashes when a specific node or some specific
    MvdV> nodes call in. Roy can confirm that, as his system used to crash
    MvdV> when I called him.

    I think that was an earlier version, since it hasn't happened since the
    time your log-in here crashed the system.

    MvdV> 2) When entering a new node in the node manager it reads the
    MvdV> nodelist, But it only finds the host name if it is in the system
    MvdV> name field. It does not find it when the host name is a parameter
    MvdV> after the protocol flag or the INA flag.

    Correct.

    MvdV> 3) A parameter after a protocol flag is always interpreted as a
    MvdV> port number. Even if it clearly is not.

    MvdV> 4) When no host name is in the system name field, it will try the
    MvdV> f.n.z.fidonet.net method. This is not overridable and the domain is
    MvdV> not configurable.

    It can be user (sysop) written in binkp to use anything but the
    fnz.fidonet.net addressing system.

    MvdV> 5) When the nodelist is updated, it will not update the data in the
    MvdV> node manager. This is particularly annoying when a host name or IP
    MvdV> address changes. 6) It will not send an attached file when the
    MvdV> crash bit of the message is set, unless the message is empty.

    MvdV> 7) When evaluating the Tzy flags, it uses local time instead of
    MvdV> UTC.

    MvdV> 8) No IPv6

    [Version update]

    MvdV> I have been waiting for a decade, my patience has run out.

    Same here.


    R\%/itt


    ... Only those who will risk going too far can possibly
    ... find out how far one can go ~ TS Eliot


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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to mark lewis on Sat Mar 17 09:35:54 2012
    Hello mark,

    On Thursday March 15 2012 13:32, you wrote to me:

    MvdV>> That workaround works only for static IP numbers. Many - if not
    MvdV>> most - nodes are on a dynamic IP.

    true but it does work for them as well... one just needs to update the entry in IREX before attempting the connect... yes, a PITA but a possibility...

    In theory. In practise it is too big a PITA to be workable on a regular basis. It is not what I paid for...

    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Roy Witt on Sat Mar 17 11:49:11 2012
    Hello Roy,

    On Friday March 16 2012 03:55, you wrote to me:

    MvdV>> 1) It occasionally crashes when a specific node or some
    MvdV>> specific nodes call in. Roy can confirm that, as his system
    MvdV>> used to crash when I called him.

    I think that was an earlier version, since it hasn't happened since
    the time your log-in here crashed the system.

    My main Fido system hads been running the latest official release which is 2.29. That version is over a decade old.

    It still occasionally crashes on this side. I use the following workaround:

    === Cut ===

    :loop
    del \sema\*.0
    rexw -daemon
    choice /C:yn /T:n,5 Quit Rex
    if errorlevel 2 goto loop

    === Cut ===

    So whe Irex terminates, normally or abnormally, it restarts in 5 seconds, unless I push the "y" key.

    When I gave up hope that it will ever be fixed, I have stopped keeping track of
    when and how it happens, but I know that it still crashes now and then.

    MvdV>> 2) When entering a new node in the node manager it reads the
    MvdV>> nodelist, But it only finds the host name if it is in the
    MvdV>> system name field. It does not find it when the host name is a
    MvdV>> parameter after the protocol flag or the INA flag.

    Correct.

    I have also created a work around for that, but it is less of an annoyance, as I do not enter new nodes in the node manager any more. Actually, removing a node that left FidoNet happens more often...

    MvdV>> 3) A parameter after a protocol flag is always interpreted as a
    MvdV>> port number. Even if it clearly is not.

    MvdV>> 4) When no host name is in the system name field, it will try
    MvdV>> the f.n.z.fidonet.net method. This is not overridable and the
    MvdV>> domain is not configurable.

    It can be user (sysop) written in binkp to use anything but the fnz.fidonet.net addressing system.

    I know. But not Irex...

    MvdV>> 8) No IPv6

    [Version update]

    MvdV>> I have been waiting for a decade, my patience has run out.

    Same here.

    With the next major system upgrade I will switch to binkd I think.


    Cheers, Michiel

    --- GoldED+/W32-MINGW 1.1.5-b20110320
    * Origin: http://www.vlist.org (2:280/5555)
  • From Roy Witt@1:387/22 to Michiel van der Vlist on Sun Mar 18 05:49:12 2012

    17 Mar 12 11:49, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Roy Witt:

    MvdV>>> 1) It occasionally crashes when a specific node or some
    MvdV>>> specific nodes call in. Roy can confirm that, as his system
    MvdV>>> used to crash when I called him.

    I think that was an earlier version, since it hasn't happened since
    the time your log-in here crashed the system.

    MvdV> My main Fido system hads been running the latest official release
    MvdV> which is 2.29. That version is over a decade old.

    Yes, and that was the version that crashed here.

    MvdV> It still occasionally crashes on this side. I use the following
    MvdV> workaround:

    MvdV> === Cut ===

    MvdV> :loop
    MvdV> del \sema\*.0
    MvdV> rexw -daemon
    MvdV> choice /C:yn /T:n,5 Quit Rex
    MvdV> if errorlevel 2 goto loop

    MvdV> === Cut ===

    That's probably a nice workaround for you. However, 'Choice' isn't
    recognized by W2k as an internal or external command or operable program.

    I did something similar to that, but it required a manual restart, which
    used 'if', 'else' and 'goto' to wipe out the *.0 semaphore and restarts
    Rex.

    I can probably dupe yours with 'if, else, goto, errorlevel' which are recognized commands by W2k...

    MvdV> So whe Irex terminates, normally or abnormally, it restarts in 5
    MvdV> seconds, unless I push the "y" key.

    MvdV> When I gave up hope that it will ever be fixed, I have stopped
    MvdV> keeping track of when and how it happens, but I know that it still
    MvdV> crashes now and then.

    I haven't seen it crash like it used to, but I've seen it lock up and
    not respond to keyboard input, but keep on doing mail transfers, etc..

    MvdV>>> 2) When entering a new node in the node manager it reads the
    MvdV>>> nodelist, But it only finds the host name if it is in the
    MvdV>>> system name field. It does not find it when the host name is a
    MvdV>>> parameter after the protocol flag or the INA flag.

    Correct.

    MvdV> I have also created a work around for that, but it is less of an
    MvdV> annoyance, as I do not enter new nodes in the node manager any
    MvdV> more. Actually, removing a node that left FidoNet happens more
    MvdV> often...

    Starting with the August event of 2011, I began to add new nodes to Rex node-manager as they came online here. I'm also attempting to get Fidonet
    back to San Antonio and have added a new node to net387 just a few weeks
    ago. There's an older node in San Marcos, just 14 miles up the road from
    here that is listed in the Austin network, but he lives closer to me.

    MvdV>>> 3) A parameter after a protocol flag is always interpreted as a
    MvdV>>> port number. Even if it clearly is not.

    MvdV>>> 4) When no host name is in the system name field, it will try
    MvdV>>> the f.n.z.fidonet.net method. This is not overridable and the
    MvdV>>> domain is not configurable.

    It can be user (sysop) written in binkp to use anything but the
    fnz.fidonet.net addressing system.

    MvdV> I know. But not Irex...

    MvdV>>> 8) No IPv6

    [Version update]

    MvdV>>> I have been waiting for a decade, my patience has run out.

    Same here.

    MvdV> With the next major system upgrade I will switch to binkd I think.

    The same here...maybe D'B if it can quote properly by the time I get to
    use it.


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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12 to Roy Witt on Mon Mar 19 14:39:44 2012
    MvdV> === Cut ===

    MvdV> :loop
    MvdV> del \sema\*.0
    MvdV> rexw -daemon
    MvdV> choice /C:yn /T:n,5 Quit Rex
    MvdV> if errorlevel 2 goto loop

    MvdV> === Cut ===

    That's probably a nice workaround for you. However, 'Choice' isn't recognized by W2k as an internal or external command or operable
    program.

    "choice" is and always has been an addon utility ;)

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  • From Roy Witt@1:387/22 to mark lewis on Mon Mar 19 10:41:52 2012

    19 Mar 12 14:39, mark lewis wrote to Roy Witt:


    MvdV>> === Cut ===

    MvdV>> :loop
    MvdV>> del \sema\*.0
    MvdV>> rexw -daemon
    MvdV>> choice /C:yn /T:n,5 Quit Rex
    MvdV>> if errorlevel 2 goto loop

    MvdV>> === Cut ===

    That's probably a nice workaround for you. However, 'Choice' isn't
    recognized by W2k as an internal or external command or operable
    program.

    "choice" is and always has been an addon utility ;)

    That's fine.

    I can work around 'choice' with; if errorlevel 2 goto LOOP else goto
    TIME. I'll have to do some DOS 7 research to see if there's a work around
    for /T:n,5 though.


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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Roy Witt on Wed Mar 21 10:35:30 2012
    Hello Roy,

    On Sunday March 18 2012 05:49, you wrote to me:

    MvdV>> My main Fido system hads been running the latest official
    MvdV>> release which is 2.29. That version is over a decade old.

    Yes, and that was the version that crashed here.

    I have a beta running on my point system. Haven't seen that one crash, but then again it is not used for incoming calls.

    MvdV>> It still occasionally crashes on this side. I use the following

    MvdV>> :loop
    MvdV>> del \sema\*.0
    MvdV>> rexw -daemon
    MvdV>> choice /C:yn /T:n,5 Quit Rex
    MvdV>> if errorlevel 2 goto loop

    That's probably a nice workaround for you. However, 'Choice' isn't recognized by W2k as an internal or external command or operable
    program.

    Same for XT, so I will have to find an alternative if end when I make the plunge..

    MvdV>> I have also created a work around for that, but it is less of
    MvdV>> an annoyance, as I do not enter new nodes in the node manager
    ^^many^
    MvdV>> any more. Actually, removing a node that left FidoNet happens
    MvdV>> more often...

    Starting with the August event of 2011, I began to add new nodes to
    Rex node-manager as they came online here. I'm also attempting to get Fidonet back to San Antonio and have added a new node to net387 just a
    few weeks ago. There's an older node in San Marcos, just 14 miles up
    the road from here that is listed in the Austin network, but he lives closer to me.

    Good.

    MvdV>> With the next major system upgrade I will switch to binkd I
    MvdV>> think.

    The same here...maybe D'B if it can quote properly by the time I get
    to use it.

    D'Bridge seems to be doing fine these days, but I am not found of these "all in
    one" solutions.


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Kevin Klement@1:342/77 to Robert Wolfe on Wed Mar 21 13:14:07 2012
    Hi Robert,

    Thursday March 15 2012 20:26, Robert Wolfe wrote to Kevin Klement:

    I think it depends on what version of the GLIBC libraries
    are installed on a given system.

    Ah...

    Kevin
    klement@gypsy-designs.com

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  • From Roy Witt@1:387/22 to Michiel van der Vlist on Thu Mar 22 05:11:22 2012

    21 Mar 12 10:35, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Roy Witt:

    MvdV>>> My main Fido system hads been running the latest official
    MvdV>>> release which is 2.29. That version is over a decade old.

    Yes, and that was the version that crashed here.

    MvdV> I have a beta running on my point system. Haven't seen that one
    MvdV> crash, but then again it is not used for incoming calls.

    2.31? I'm still using 2.29...

    MvdV>>> It still occasionally crashes on this side. I use the following

    MvdV>>> :loop
    MvdV>>> del \sema\*.0
    MvdV>>> rexw -daemon
    MvdV>>> choice /C:yn /T:n,5 Quit Rex
    MvdV>>> if errorlevel 2 goto loop

    That's probably a nice workaround for you. However, 'Choice' isn't
    recognized by W2k as an internal or external command or operable
    program.

    MvdV> Same for XT, so I will have to find an alternative if end when I
    MvdV> make the plunge..

    Well, I did find choice.com in the MSDOS7 folder, so I played with it for
    a while, entering the full path to choice. And it works.

    @ECHO OFF
    rem --- CHOICE.BAT
    rem 3-20-2012

    :LOOP
    ECHO DO YOU WANNA DANCE?
    c:\msdos7\choice.com /C:yn /Tn,05 My, my you're cute
    @echo off
    if errorlevel 2 goto LOOP

    Echo Whisper in my ear, Darling.
    echo-off
    echo Thank you for the dance
    goto END


    :END
    exit

    MvdV>>> I have also created a work around for that, but it is less of
    MvdV>>> an annoyance, as I do not enter new nodes in the node manager

    MvdV> ^^many^

    MvdV>>> any more. Actually, removing a node that left FidoNet happens
    MvdV>>> more often...

    Starting with the August event of 2011, I began to add new nodes to
    Rex node-manager as they came online here. I'm also attempting to
    get Fidonet back to San Antonio and have added a new node to net387
    just a few weeks ago. There's an older node in San Marcos, just 14
    miles up the road from here that is listed in the Austin network,
    but he lives closer to me.

    MvdV> Good.

    MvdV>>> With the next major system upgrade I will switch to binkd I
    MvdV>>> think.

    The same here...maybe D'B if it can quote properly by the time I get
    to use it.

    MvdV> D'Bridge seems to be doing fine these days, but I am not found of
    MvdV> these "all in one" solutions.

    Other than it has the quoting problem discussed elsewhere and it may or
    may not run in a Windows Tray rather than the Desktop, I might be able to overlook that quoting issue.


    R\%/itt


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  • From Joe Delahaye@1:249/303 to Roy Witt on Thu Mar 22 21:37:09 2012
    Re: Bug report
    By: Roy Witt to Michiel van der Vlist on Thu Mar 22 2012 05:11:22

    MvdV> I have a beta running on my point system. Haven't seen that one
    MvdV> crash, but then again it is not used for incoming calls.

    2.31? I'm still using 2.29...


    I h ave been running 2.31 for quite a while now. No problems that I have found. I may have missed some though <G> What I find irritating about Irex is the fact that it will NOT do a nodelist lookup if I send to a specific node, not in its own nodelist. I seem to recall that it was supposed to do so
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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Roy Witt on Fri Mar 23 12:43:08 2012
    Hello Roy,

    On Thursday March 22 2012 05:11, you wrote to me:

    MvdV>> I have a beta running on my point system. Haven't seen that
    MvdV>> one crash, but then again it is not used for incoming calls.

    2.31?

    Yes.

    I'm still using 2.29...

    So I use them both. I have not found any differences in behaviour. There is so no "whatsnew" for the beta..

    Well, I did find choice.com in the MSDOS7 folder, so I played with it
    for a while, entering the full path to choice. And it works.

    I have not found it for XP yet.

    Other than it has the quoting problem discussed elsewhere and it may
    or may not run in a Windows Tray rather than the Desktop, I might be
    able to overlook that quoting issue.

    I would not want to part with Golded. I am so used to it...


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Joe Delahaye on Fri Mar 23 12:48:45 2012
    Hello Joe,

    On Thursday March 22 2012 21:37, you wrote to Roy Witt:

    I h ave been running 2.31 for quite a while now.

    Have you found any improvements over 2.29?

    What I find irritating about Irex is the fact that it will NOT do a nodelist lookup if I send to a specific node, not in its own nodelist.
    I seem to recall that it was supposed to do so

    Yes, that's another thing that does not work as advertised, :-(


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Joe Delahaye@1:249/303 to Michiel van der Vlist on Fri Mar 23 13:38:19 2012
    Re: Bug report
    By: Michiel van der Vlist to Joe Delahaye on Fri Mar 23 2012 12:48:45

    I h ave been running 2.31 for quite a while now.

    Have you found any improvements over 2.29?

    If there are any, they are miniscule. I wonder it if was actually a beta, or somebody simply did some hex patching and renumbered it.


    What I find irritating about Irex is the fact that it will NOT do a nodelist lookup if I send to a specific node, not in its own nodelist. I seem to recall that it was supposed to do so

    Yes, that's another thing that does not work as advertised, :-(


    Unfortunately.

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  • From Roy Witt@1:387/22 to Joe Delahaye on Fri Mar 23 04:54:01 2012

    22 Mar 12 21:37, Joe Delahaye wrote to Roy Witt:

    MvdV> I have a beta running on my point system. Haven't seen that
    one MvdV> crash, but then again it is not used for incoming calls.

    2.31? I'm still using 2.29...


    I h ave been running 2.31 for quite a while now. No problems that I
    have found. I may have missed some though <G> What I find
    irritating about Irex is the fact that it will NOT do a nodelist
    lookup if I send to a specific node, not in its own nodelist.

    I came across that when setting up Irex to act more like a hub...I found a
    fix for it, but don't remember what it was. At any rate, Rex will use the nodelist to send mail, at least it does here.

    I seem to recall that it was supposed to do so

    If all else fails, Rex will also use your route.rex file to send mail to a non-Rex configured system listed there as crash-to. i.e. I have crash-to
    the Z1 Fnews editor in the route.rex file and no Irex node configuration entered for the 1:1/1 nodelisting. You may or may not have noticed that in
    the very first config section of Rex, you can choose to send mail to 'nodelisted systems only' or send mail to unlisted systems. Check that
    setting and you may have solved your nodelist usage problem.


    R\%/itt


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  • From Roy Witt@1:387/22 to Michiel van der Vlist on Fri Mar 23 05:14:07 2012

    23 Mar 12 12:43, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Roy Witt:

    MvdV>>> I have a beta running on my point system. Haven't seen that
    MvdV>>> one crash, but then again it is not used for incoming calls.

    2.31?

    MvdV> Yes.

    I'm still using 2.29...

    MvdV> So I use them both. I have not found any differences in behaviour.
    MvdV> There is so no "whatsnew" for the beta..

    I think the beta was a temp fix for the Linux version. Something to do
    with the fnz lookup that didn't work is supposed to work with 2.31.

    Well, I did find choice.com in the MSDOS7 folder, so I played with
    it for a while, entering the full path to choice. And it works.

    MvdV> I have not found it for XP yet.

    You may not ever find it. The difference as I was told is between W2k and
    XP. XP uses less and less of the DOS commands.

    Other than it has the quoting problem discussed elsewhere and it may
    or may not run in a Windows Tray rather than the Desktop, I might be
    able to overlook that quoting issue.

    MvdV> I would not want to part with Golded. I am so used to it...

    I've been using it for so long that I don't want to part with it at all.


    R\%/itt


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  • From Joe Delahaye@1:249/303 to Roy Witt on Fri Mar 23 16:06:49 2012
    Re: Bug report
    By: Roy Witt to Joe Delahaye on Fri Mar 23 2012 04:54:01

    I h ave been running 2.31 for quite a while now. No problems that I have found. I may have missed some though <G> What I find
    irritating about Irex is the fact that it will NOT do a nodelist
    lookup if I send to a specific node, not in its own nodelist.

    I came across that when setting up Irex to act more like a hub...I found a fix for it, but don't remember what it was. At any rate, Rex will use the nodelist to send mail, at least it does here.

    Wish you could remember that :(


    I seem to recall that it was supposed to do so

    If all else fails, Rex will also use your route.rex file to send mail to a non-Rex configured system listed there as crash-to. i.e. I have crash-to
    the Z1 Fnews editor in the route.rex file and no Irex node configuration entered for the 1:1/1 nodelisting. You may or may not have noticed that in the very first config section of Rex, you can choose to send mail to 'nodelisted systems only' or send mail to unlisted systems. Check that setting and you may have solved your nodelist usage problem.


    If you mean, Send to Unknown Nodes, I have that set to YES
    I see no other setting for that


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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Joe Delahaye on Fri Mar 23 21:39:38 2012
    Hello Joe,

    On Friday March 23 2012 13:38, you wrote to me:

    I h ave been running 2.31 for quite a while now.

    Have you found any improvements over 2.29?

    If there are any, they are miniscule. I wonder it if was actually a
    beta, or somebody simply did some hex patching and renumbered it.

    Who knows. Only Charles can tell, but he prefers to be silent.


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Joe Delahaye@1:249/303 to Michiel van der Vlist on Fri Mar 23 23:05:18 2012
    Re: Bug report
    By: Michiel van der Vlist to Joe Delahaye on Fri Mar 23 2012 21:39:38

    Who knows. Only Charles can tell, but he prefers to be silent.



    I can remember when he actually participated, evcen if it was only sporadically.
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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Joe Delahaye on Sat Mar 24 23:02:32 2012
    Hello Joe,

    On Friday March 23 2012 23:05, you wrote to me:

    Who knows. Only Charles can tell, but he prefers to be silent.

    I can remember when he actually participated, evcen if it was only sporadically.

    So can I, but that was a looong time ago...


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Joe Delahaye@1:249/303 to Michiel van der Vlist on Sat Mar 24 22:34:15 2012
    Re: Bug report
    By: Michiel van der Vlist to Joe Delahaye on Sat Mar 24 2012 23:02:32

    I can remember when he actually participated, evcen if it was only sporadically.

    So can I, but that was a looong time ago...


    Unfotunately
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  • From Roy Witt@1:387/22 to Joe Delahaye on Sun Mar 25 06:11:53 2012

    23 Mar 12 16:06, Joe Delahaye wrote to Roy Witt:

    I h ave been running 2.31 for quite a while now. No problems
    that I
    have found. I may have missed some though <G> What I find
    irritating about Irex is the fact that it will NOT do a nodelist
    lookup if I send to a specific node, not in its own nodelist.

    I came across that when setting up Irex to act more like a hub...I
    found a fix for it, but don't remember what it was. At any rate, Rex
    will use the nodelist to send mail, at least it does here.

    Wish you could remember that :(

    Make sure you have the proper compiled nodelist path entered correctly,
    make sure that it is a compiled nodelist that is the same as what you have
    Irex 'set up frontend' set to use. I use Front Door up to 2.2 as my front
    end and a GoldEd nodelist compiler (Irex is compatible with both).

    I seem to recall that it was supposed to do so

    If all else fails, Rex will also use your route.rex file to send mail
    to a non-Rex configured system listed there as crash-to. i.e. I have
    crash-to the Z1 Fnews editor in the route.rex file and no Irex node
    configuration entered for the 1:1/1 nodelisting. You may or may not
    have noticed that in the very first config section of Rex, you can
    choose to send mail to 'nodelisted systems only' or send mail to
    unlisted systems. Check that setting and you may have solved your
    nodelist usage problem.


    If you mean, Send to Unknown Nodes, I have that set to YES
    I see no other setting for that

    I have all of the settings in that config window as Yes, except for one,
    'keep rexfix messages'.


    R\%/itt


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  • From Joe Delahaye@1:249/303 to Roy Witt on Sun Mar 25 21:50:08 2012
    Re: Bug report
    By: Roy Witt to Joe Delahaye on Sun Mar 25 2012 06:11:53

    Make sure you have the proper compiled nodelist path entered correctly,
    make sure that it is a compiled nodelist that is the same as what you have Irex 'set up frontend' set to use. I use Front Door up to 2.2 as my front end and a GoldEd nodelist compiler (Irex is compatible with both).


    I used Intermail, and still have it, It compiles the nodelist using a batch file automatically when it arrives, after applying the diff of course <G> and yes, Irex knows where that nodelist is located.
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  • From Roy Witt@1:387/22 to Joe Delahaye on Wed Mar 28 04:14:31 2012

    25 Mar 12 21:50, Joe Delahaye wrote to Roy Witt:

    Make sure you have the proper compiled nodelist path entered
    correctly, make sure that it is a compiled nodelist that is the same
    as what you have Irex 'set up frontend' set to use. I use Front Door
    up to 2.2 as my front end and a GoldEd nodelist compiler (Irex is
    compatible with both).


    I used Intermail, and still have it, It compiles the nodelist using
    a batch file automatically when it arrives, after applying the diff
    of course <G> and yes, Irex knows where that nodelist is located.

    Then you shouldn't have a problem with Irex using the nodelist. I can't
    count the number of times that Irex has popped it's little head up and
    told me that the current nodelist is 'out of date', which it usually is
    here. I use that as a reminder to go find a current nodelist to compile.


    R\%/itt


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  • From Joe Delahaye@1:249/303 to Roy Witt on Wed Mar 28 22:56:48 2012
    Re: Bug report
    By: Roy Witt to Joe Delahaye on Wed Mar 28 2012 04:14:31

    Then you shouldn't have a problem with Irex using the nodelist. I can't count the number of times that Irex has popped it's little head up and
    told me that the current nodelist is 'out of date', which it usually is here. I use that as a reminder to go find a current nodelist to compile.


    Over 5 different OS it has never once told me my nodelist was out of date, and I have been using it for about 17 years.
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  • From Robert Wolfe@1:261/20 to Joe Delahaye on Thu Mar 29 10:57:56 2012
    here. I use that as a reminder to go find a current nodelist to compile.

    I have been using it for about 17 years.





    Yes, but do you keep your nodelist updated?

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12 to Joe Delahaye on Thu Mar 29 15:26:07 2012
    "Joe Delahaye -> Roy Witt" <1:249/303> wrote in news:3921$fido.irex@JamNNTPd:

    Re: Bug report
    By: Roy Witt to Joe Delahaye on Wed Mar 28 2012 04:14:31

    Then you shouldn't have a problem with Irex using the nodelist. I can't
    count the number of times that Irex has popped it's little head up and
    told me that the current nodelist is 'out of date', which it usually is
    here. I use that as a reminder to go find a current nodelist to compile.


    Over 5 different OS it has never once told me my nodelist was out of
    date, and I have been using it for about 17 years.

    so you've always updated your nodelist each and every friday? roy has stated pretty plainly that he doesn't...

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  • From Joe Delahaye@1:249/303 to Robert Wolfe on Thu Mar 29 15:25:43 2012
    Re: Bug report
    By: Robert Wolfe to Joe Delahaye on Thu Mar 29 2012 10:57:56

    here. I use that as a reminder to go find a current nodelist to compile.

    I have been using it for about 17 years.


    I get weekly updates and it is all automated, and has been for years. Had you read the beginning of this thread you would have seem me mention that <G>.
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  • From Roy Witt@1:387/22 to Joe Delahaye on Thu Mar 29 11:12:58 2012

    28 Mar 12 22:56, Joe Delahaye wrote to Roy Witt:

    Re: Bug report
    By: Roy Witt to Joe Delahaye on Wed Mar 28 2012 04:14:31

    Then you shouldn't have a problem with Irex using the nodelist. I
    can't count the number of times that Irex has popped it's little head
    up and told me that the current nodelist is 'out of date', which it
    usually is here. I use that as a reminder to go find a current
    nodelist to compile.


    Over 5 different OS it has never once told me my nodelist was out of
    date, and I have been using it for about 17 years.

    Dunno what to tell you, Joe. I've been using it for that long too and have
    no problem with Irex finding AND using the nodelist. When I enter a new
    node in the Node Manager, it always wants to use the nodelist entry to
    config the node entry in Irex. Unfortunately, it always enters the fzn.fidonet.org (?) crappola. Which is basically useless.


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  • From Joe Delahaye@1:249/303 to mark lewis on Thu Mar 29 22:15:38 2012
    Re: Bug report
    By: mark lewis to Joe Delahaye on Thu Mar 29 2012 15:26:07

    so you've always updated your nodelist each and every friday? roy has
    stated pretty plainly that he doesn't...

    I do. as both NC and RC I need an up to date onr <G>

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  • From Joe Delahaye@1:249/303 to Roy Witt on Thu Mar 29 22:16:54 2012
    Re: Bug report
    By: Roy Witt to Joe Delahaye on Thu Mar 29 2012 11:12:58

    Dunno what to tell you, Joe. I've been using it for that long too and have no problem with Irex finding AND using the nodelist. When I enter a new
    node in the Node Manager, it always wants to use the nodelist entry to config the node entry in Irex. Unfortunately, it always enters the fzn.fidonet.org (?) crappola. Which is basically useless.


    Yeah, it does work that way, and only at times do I have that problem you mention.
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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Roy Witt on Fri Mar 30 10:29:12 2012
    Hello Roy,

    On Thursday March 29 2012 11:12, you wrote to Joe Delahaye:

    Dunno what to tell you, Joe. I've been using it for that long too and
    have no problem with Irex finding AND using the nodelist. When I enter
    a new node in the Node Manager, it always wants to use the nodelist
    entry to config the node entry in Irex. Unfortunately, it always
    enters the fzn.fidonet.org (?) crappola. Which is basically useless.

    Joe was originally referring to the situation where a node is not configured in
    Irex's node manager.

    According to the manual, if a message has the crash bit set, Irex will do a nodelist lookup and if the destination supports one of Irex's protocols, sent the message directly to the destination.

    That however does not work.


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Roy Witt@1:387/22 to Joe Delahaye on Fri Mar 30 07:13:15 2012

    29 Mar 12 22:15, Joe Delahaye wrote to mark lewis:

    so you've always updated your nodelist each and every friday? roy has
    stated pretty plainly that he doesn't...

    I do. as both NC and RC I need an up to date onr <G>

    If you really need to keep an updated nodelist on a weekly basis, it's
    readily available on Janis' system. It only takes a few seconds to
    download and compile from there.

    Since I don't bother with nodediffs, but do keep mulitiple copies of old nodelists archived by year, those are available here. A new user can
    download a month old nodelist and use it to make diff to current.


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  • From Roy Witt@1:387/22 to Joe Delahaye on Fri Mar 30 07:17:28 2012

    29 Mar 12 22:16, Joe Delahaye wrote to Roy Witt:

    Dunno what to tell you, Joe. I've been using it for that long too and
    have no problem with Irex finding AND using the nodelist. When I enter
    a new node in the Node Manager, it always wants to use the nodelist
    entry to config the node entry in Irex. Unfortunately, it always
    enters the fzn.fidonet.org (?) crappola. Which is basically useless.

    Yeah, it does work that way, and only at times do I have that problem
    you mention.

    So, basically you're saying that Irex does use the nodelist, just not the
    way you would like it to use it.


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  • From Roy Witt@1:387/22 to Michiel van der Vlist on Fri Mar 30 07:20:36 2012

    30 Mar 12 10:29, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Roy Witt:

    Dunno what to tell you, Joe. I've been using it for that long too
    and have no problem with Irex finding AND using the nodelist. When I
    enter a new node in the Node Manager, it always wants to use the
    nodelist entry to config the node entry in Irex. Unfortunately, it
    always enters the fzn.fidonet.org (?) crappola. Which is basically
    useless.

    MvdV> Joe was originally referring to the situation where a node is not
    MvdV> configured in Irex's node manager.

    MvdV> According to the manual, if a message has the crash bit set, Irex
    MvdV> will do a nodelist lookup and if the destination supports one of
    MvdV> Irex's protocols, sent the message directly to the destination.

    MvdV> That however does not work.

    That situation can be changed by adding such a node to the node manager.
    With a registered Irex 50 node limit, easily done.


    R\%/itt


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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Roy Witt on Sat Mar 31 00:04:13 2012
    Hello Roy,

    On Friday March 30 2012 07:20, you wrote to me:

    MvdV>> According to the manual, if a message has the crash bit set,
    MvdV>> Irex will do a nodelist lookup and if the destination supports
    MvdV>> one of Irex's protocols, sent the message directly to the
    MvdV>> destination.

    MvdV>> That however does not work.

    That situation can be changed by adding such a node to the node
    manager. With a registered Irex 50 node limit, easily done.

    Of course. But it is extra work adn it does not alter the fact that it does not
    work as advertised.


    Cheers, Michiel

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