In your last echomail you said...

I worked a LOT of 11 meter CW back in the 1940's, including. We
shared the band with diathermy machines and other such interference.

Best regards, (73)
Dick, W5MFD since 1946

I remember sharing 11 metres with hospital paging systems.

I have 2 Yaesu FT-101Bs with 11 metres on them, they put out a beautiful signal
on CB!

People just cant pick whats going on, "somehow you sound clearer" they say!

I still have 2 war surplus BC611 walkie talkies that I actually used back in the early 70s I've lost some of the parts for one of them and I'm restoring it,
another enthusiast I met over the internet sent me some of the missing parts and a spare chassis.

I've also restored 2 Hallicrafter communications receivers I have an SX 71 and an SX 101. Have you ever heard of a Hallicrafters radio?

Cheers
Peter

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I have 2 Yaesu FT-101Bs with 11 metres on them, they put out a beautiful

signal

on CB!

People just cant pick whats going on, "somehow you sound clearer" they say!

So we have an IGNORANT out of BAND Jerk amongst us.

SHAME ON YOU!!!!!
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In a message dated 05-27-00, Peter May said to Richard Brumbaugh:

Best regards, (73)
Dick, W5MFD since 1946

I've also restored 2 Hallicrafter communications receivers I have an
SX 71 and an SX 101. Have you ever heard of a Hallicrafters radio?

Peter!

What a question to a ham licensed since 1946!!! Think first!

New question: Do you know without looking up anything what
Central Electronics Inc. manufactured?

73 de Sam, OH0NC

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On (27 May 00) Peter May wrote to Richard Brumbaugh...

I've also restored 2 Hallicrafter communications receivers I have an
SX 71 and an SX 101. Have you ever heard of a Hallicrafters radio?

Yep! I started out as a SWL with an S-38 rcvr. Used it for a while
after I got my ticket in 1946. Then converted some ARC military
stuff. Rcvr was a BC-455 for 40 meters, etc. Good ole days ;-)

Best regards, (73)
Dick, W5MFD since 1946
richard.brumbaugh@gratisnet.com

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In your last message you said...

I have 2 Yaesu FT-101Bs with 11 metres on them, they
put out a beautiful signal
on CB!
People just cant pick whats going on, "somehow you
sound clearer" they say!

So we have an IGNORANT out of BAND Jerk amongst us.
SHAME ON YOU!!!!!

It is amazing just how far a CBer can follow you with the clarifier, I reckon about 50% of CB rigs have been modified with a "slide".

Technically speaking though, in terms of spurious emissions such as TVI, RFI and image rejection on receive, the old 101B would have to be superior to my Pearce Simpson Bengal Base.

In short with CB Radio, you get what you pay for. The asian manufacturers, I have been told, get a working prototype CB, then proceed to take out parts until it stops working, then put the last part in and sell the set in that form.

Power output is not all that much more with an old FT-101B as the tubes are getting pretty weak with old age! Finding replacements is difficult.

Have you listened to 27 Mhz lately?

Cheers
Peter

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In your last message you said....

and the like or reallocate it to other purposes.

We have a magazine editor, you may have heard of him; Wayne Green of 73 Magazine - who long ago said that we should auction off all of the 'amateur' sprectrum we're not using. Course, the FCC might have something to say about that.

I went to a hamfest last year, Roy. From what I observed, it appears that the HAMS are infactuated with UHF and repeaters and stuff.

Good old Yeasu HF gear such as the FT-980 was el' cheapo...less than $100.

It's hard to tell an amateur from someone using a mobile phone now. In years gone by HAMS had great expertise in talking long distance on "home brew" equipment. Are these days gone? Todays amateurs appear to able to do no more than the average citizen surfing the net, faxing or phoning overseas.

Maybe its more fundamental and related to cramped living space and the inability to constrct a Yagi or Quad in the backyard. Or maybe it's too tedious
to listen to an SSB signal that varies sporadically.

Anyway, I'm aware of plans afoot to sell off spectrum, if it appears to be unused. It is another "asset" that can return a dividend.

Maybe its time to fire up your old boatanchors as an indication of ownership of
the HF amateur bands!

Cheers
Peter

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In your last message you asked....

In a message dated 05-27-00, Peter May said to Richard Brumbaugh:

Best regards, (73)
Dick, W5MFD since 1946

I've also restored 2 Hallicrafter communications receivers I have an
SX 71 and an SX 101. Have you ever heard of a Hallicrafters radio?

Peter!

What a question to a ham licensed since 1946!!! Think first!

Well, over here not all that many amateurs are familiar with the brand name, although it is pretty renowned in the states.

Would you have heard of a Kingsley AR7? Maybe not, it is a famous Australian communications receiver, very similar to the HRO in appearance with plug in coil boxes. It is more attractive than the HRO as it has a nickel plated front panel.

New question: Do you know without looking up anything what
Central Electronics Inc. manufactured?

I would have guessed that they made resistors, potentiometers etc but the name doesnt really ring a bell with me.

Cheers
Peter

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It's hard to tell an amateur from someone using a mobile phone now. In years gone by HAMS had great expertise in talking long distance on "home brew" equipment. Are these days gone? Todays amateurs appear to able to do no more than the average citizen surfing the net, faxing or phoning overseas.

Sadly that is Very True. 2 Meters sounds more like the CB band every
day. And even those that don't sound like CB'ers seem to Prattle
endlessly just to hear their Head Rattle.
The HAMS of the Old Days, I Flunked the CW test for the First time in
1947, are a fast dying breed.
And IMHO I see no reversal of the Trend.

Maybe its more fundamental and related to cramped living space and the inability to constrct a Yagi or Quad in the backyard. Or maybe it's too

tedious

to listen to an SSB signal that varies sporadically.

I don't thinbk that enters into it very much. The Whole World and
attitudes are changing. What we have is the "Instant Gratification"
Generations brought up on the 30 minute sitcom that thinks it is
"UNFAIR" to have to Work for anything. This combined with the Lack of
Personnal Disipline commonly found in the Younger generations makes it Impossable to continue the Traditions of HAM radio that was at one
time Common.
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Have you listened to 27 Mhz lately?

Here in Southern California it is a Total Wasteland. I still have a
Squires Saunders 23er and turn it on once in a while. But very Rarely
hear any Listenable communication.
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In a message dated 05-30-00, Peter May said to Holger Granholm:

Well, over here not all that many amateurs are familiar with the
brand name, although it is pretty renowned in the states.

Hello Peter,

Well, I'm not in the states but I know the american brand names very
well.

Hallicrafters, Hammarlund, Collins, Drake, Swan, Eldico, National and
of course Central Electronics that was AFAIR the first company that to
market commercially built SingleSideBand (SSB) transmitters 10A, 20B
and later the 100V and a receiver adapter named SideBand Slicer.

Would you have heard of a Kingsley AR7? Maybe not, it is a famous PM>Australian communications receiver, very similar to the HRO in
appearance with plug in coil boxes. It is more attractive than the
HRO as it has a nickel plated front panel.

There are many copies of the HRO around. "HRO's" were even manufactured
in Finland during and after WWII.

73 de Sam, OH0NC

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Hello Peter.

30 May 00 08:36, you wrote to Tom Walker:

Power output is not all that much more with an old FT-101B as the
tubes are getting pretty weak with old age! Finding replacements is difficult.

Kenwood TS-520 I've owned since new (c1976) has had the finals replaced
just once, (c1985). They haven't been lit up since it's initial tune up
after the replacement.

Have you listened to 27 Mhz lately?

Almost nightly, but everything there is garbage. I have a HR-2510 that
scans the bands from 26.xxx to 30.xxx MHz. Talked to some GOBs in Alabama
and Georgia the other day, up around 28.650 and as the day went on, the
skip switched to Idaho and then Alaska.


... Talk is easy and natural - AEC hams chirp like turKEYS!
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Hello Peter.

30 May 00 08:50, you wrote to me:

We have a magazine editor, you may have heard of him; Wayne Green of
73 Magazine - who long ago said that we should auction off all of
the 'amateur' sprectrum we're not using. Course, the FCC might have
something to say about that.

I went to a hamfest last year, Roy. From what I observed, it appears
that the HAMS are infactuated with UHF and repeaters and stuff.

That's me. I used to be the technician/trustee for a local two meter club repeater and from there I went on to my own UHF repeater. It was and
still is AFAIK, on top of a mountain just to the north of San Diego,
called; Mt Palomar. We have a local publication here that you may have
heard of, ComputerEdge; The computer guru who answers technical questions
owns a cabin on that mountain and the guy to whom I sold the repeater,
placed it in the basement of his cabin.

Good old Yeasu HF gear such as the FT-980 was el' cheapo...less than
$100.

Anything that's analog will go for cheap in these times of digital tuning.

It's hard to tell an amateur from someone using a mobile phone now.
In years gone by HAMS had great expertise in talking long distance on "home brew" equipment. Are these days gone? Todays amateurs appear to
able to do no more than the average citizen surfing the net, faxing
or phoning overseas.

Very true. Not many who build these days.

Maybe its more fundamental and related to cramped living space and
the inability to constrct a Yagi or Quad in the backyard. Or maybe
it's too tedious to listen to an SSB signal that varies sporadically.

Not it, exactly. A friend of mine who enjoys working DX, has always
managed to find himself a place to put up towers for his antennas. When I first met him, he was still in the Navy and lived on a hill, overlooking
the San Diego Bay. First thing up was a tower and a bunch of mono-band
Yagis. First thing up on his new place with 5 acres just east of San
Diego was two towers and all of the mono-band yagis a guy could want.

Those who want to will find the means.

Anyway, I'm aware of plans afoot to sell off spectrum, if it appears
to be unused. It is another "asset" that can return a dividend.

In the states, the spectrum belongs to the people, managed by the FCC. Our Congress mandates what they can or can't do with it. Unfortunately, the Congress also doals out the bucks to the FCC and when they don't get
enough of that, they sell off spectrum. Of course, they sell off the
amateur portions that aren't being used, first.

Maybe its time to fire up your old boatanchors as an indication of ownership of the HF amateur bands!

Perhaps so. I un-boxed my 520 from storage about a year ago, but haven't listened to it since.


... Hams do it with frequency, till their GIGAHERTZ!
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On 31 May @ 05:20pm, Roy Witt wrote to Peter May:

That's me. I used to be the technician/trustee for a local two
meter club repeater and from there I went on to my own UHF
repeater. It was and still is AFAIK, on top of a mountain just
to the north of San Diego, called; Mt Palomar. We have a local publication here that you may have heard of, ComputerEdge; The
computer guru who answers technical questions owns a cabin on
that mountain and the guy to whom I sold the repeater, placed it
in the basement of his cabin.

It seems now that ComputerEdge might've had a BBS which was one of
the many I called via PC Pursuit from the San Diego outdials?

Very true. Not many who build these days.

It seems hams built their own equipment in the days when there
wasn't much difference between it and factory built, long before
printed circuits and LSICs, when everybody used tube sockets, tubes, capacitors, resistors, and terminal strips, all individually wired
and soldered.

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Very true. Not many who build these days.

It seems hams built their own equipment in the days when there
wasn't much difference between it and factory built, long before
printed circuits and LSICs, when everybody used tube sockets, tubes, capacitors, resistors, and terminal strips, all individually wired
and soldered.

Thati s Right. Home Brew as I knew it is DEAD and Gone.
Technicologal Advances have made it Impractical in Most Cases.
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On (31 May 00) Roy Witt wrote to Peter May...

Very true. Not many who build these days.

It's a shame too. I remember building the HBR-14, a 14 tube dual
conversion ham receiver from 1957 QST. I could go right down to my
local Ham store (Radio, Inc) and buy any or all the parts it used.
Not any more. The store is still there but went out of the ham parts
and ham business years ago. I don't know just what electronics they
sell now. I'm still using my Heathkit HX-1681 CW xmtr and matching
HR-1680 rcvr I built in 1983. Also built the HW-101 then but couldn't
get used to sending and receiving from the same box.

Maybe its time to fire up your old boatanchors as an indication of ownership of the HF amateur bands!

Perhaps so. I un-boxed my 520 from storage about a year ago, but
haven't listened to it since.

Isn't that 520 one of the most modern rigs, hi, hi.

Best regards, (73)
Dick, W5MFD since 1946
richard.brumbaugh@gratisnet.com

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Hello BRUCE.

01 Jun 00 15:31, you wrote to me:

publication here that you may have heard of, ComputerEdge; The
computer guru who answers technical questions owns a cabin on
that mountain and the guy to whom I sold the repeater, placed it
in the basement of his cabin.

It seems now that ComputerEdge might've had a BBS which was one of
the many I called via PC Pursuit from the San Diego outdials?

That's right. If you went to the page where 'Digital Dave' would reply
to computer questions, this is the person I'm speaking of.

Coincidentally, his real name is Roy and he's also a HAM.

Very true. Not many who build these days.

It seems hams built their own equipment in the days when there
wasn't much difference between it and factory built, long before
printed circuits and LSICs, when everybody used tube sockets, tubes, capacitors, resistors, and terminal strips, all individually wired
and soldered.

And most of their parts came from the scrap that the commercial
manufacturers threw out or sold by quantity in large buckets.


... Early HAMs built their own gear to fill in the gaps.
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Hello Richard.

02 Jun 00 18:32, you wrote to me:

Very true. Not many who build these days.

It's a shame too. I remember building the HBR-14, a 14 tube dual conversion ham receiver from 1957 QST. I could go right down to my
local Ham store (Radio, Inc) and buy any or all the parts it used.

Long about then there were also some kit suppliers, but not anymore. I
built stereo kits from Allied Radio in Chicago during that time.

Not any more. The store is still there but went out of the ham parts
and ham business years ago. I don't know just what electronics they
sell now.

Allied Radio is gone too. The small town I grew up in didn't have any
such thing, but I do remember my uncle building ham radios and recording
on 78rpm records. Don't know where he got the parts, as most of those
things were in Chicago.

I'm still using my Heathkit HX-1681 CW xmtr and matching
HR-1680 rcvr I built in 1983. Also built the HW-101 then but
couldn't get used to sending and receiving from the same box.

The Heath 'lunchbox' was the first thing I ever operated on the air.

Maybe its time to fire up your old boatanchors as an indication of
ownership of the HF amateur bands!

Perhaps so. I un-boxed my 520 from storage about a year ago, but
haven't listened to it since.

Isn't that 520 one of the most modern rigs, hi, hi.

I bought it new in 1977. Can't say that it's 'the' most modern rig, but
it is a nice one and is a lot better than the Swan 750 it replaced. After nearly 10 years in storage, the tuner made noise as you tuned across the
bands, so I took it apart and cleaned everything in the radio. Found a
ton of dirt in it from days gone by.



... Happiness is a warm valve......!!!
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On (04 Jun 00) Roy Witt wrote to Richard Brumbaugh...

Long about then there were also some kit suppliers, but not anymore.
I built stereo kits from Allied Radio in Chicago during that time.

I still fire up my Knightkit T-60 on 40 CW now and then. Use XTAL
control. Puts out 30 watts. Got rid of my DX-35 years ago to a
novice. Still have, besides the HW-101, the HW-16, WRL Globe Chief
90. Also, Allied Radio SWL 4 tube rcvr kit.
Later,

Best regards, (73)
Dick, W5MFD since 1946
richard.brumbaugh@gratisnet.com

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Roy Witt wrote in a message to Richard Brumbaugh:

Hello Richard.

Allied Radio is gone too. The small town I grew up in didn't have
any such thing, but I do remember my uncle building ham radios and recording on 78rpm records. Don't know where he got the parts, as
most of those things were in Chicago.

I've got one of those, a BRS (Byer Recording Services) portable recording unit,
it can cut 78 RPM acetates and 33s. Has a sort of worm drive etc under the deck, quite well thought out device, its only drawback is that it's got a cold cutting head.

Of course I havent seen acetates on the market for years.

Cheers,
Peter
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