Hi

Just struck me about morse for licensing.
For a Class A licence to TX below 30Mhz you need to be able to send CW, 12wpm or UK M5 licence 5wpm.
Yet if you obtain a Class B licence to TX above 30Mhz you don't need to take a morse test, yet you can send and receive using a computer, silly or what ?.
It sort of makes a mockery out of the whole licensing system. I have no idea what the licensing in the US is, I can only go by UK regs.


73's

Steve

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licence 5wpm. Yet if you obtain a Class B licence to TX above 30Mhz
you don't need to take a morse test, yet you can send and receive
using a computer, silly or what ?. It sort of makes a mockery
out of the whole licensing system. I have no idea what the licensing
in the US is, I can only go by UK regs.

Don't see the Connection at all. If the Computer uses CW or some Packet Protocal is totaly not relevant. It has No relationship to using a Key and the
Mental capacity of the Brain to send Morse Code.

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Hi Tom

licence 5wpm. Yet if you obtain a Class B licence to TX above 30Mhz
you don't need to take a morse test, yet you can send and receive
using a computer, silly or what ?. It sort of makes a mockery
out of the whole licensing system. I have no idea what the licensing
in the US is, I can only go by UK regs.

Don't see the Connection at all. If the Computer uses CW

In the UK, for a Class A licence you have to be able to send/receive CW at least 12wpm, manualy send, and receive by ear, OK so far ?. For a class B licence, that is for above 30Mhz, you only have to take the exam, yet, if you pass it you can use CW by whatever method you want, manualy, auto, using your computer. So why can it not be the same for a class A, below 30Mhz ?.
Don't get me wrong, as I have said just make it either optional, or if it has to be mandatory, allow sending/receiving by any means. I'm trying to learn CW but to be honest, I havn't the time to devote 30 mins or so a day

Steve

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Hello Steve.

10 Sep 00 23:29, you wrote to all:

Just struck me about morse for licensing.
For a Class A licence to TX below 30Mhz you need to be able to send
CW, 12wpm or UK M5 licence 5wpm. Yet if you obtain a Class B licence
to TX above 30Mhz you don't need to take a morse test, yet you can
send and receive using a computer, silly or what ?.

Or what. Sending via a computer (AX25) has no real morse skill to it,
while the attached radio does all of the RXing and TXing, the computer
does the code en/deciphering. All the operator does is type the proper character.

It sort of makes a mockery out of the whole licensing system.

Not really.

I have no idea what the licensing in the US is, I can only go by UK
regs.

5wpm to use 30mhz or below, phone and cw. No code required for 30mhz and above.


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Hi Roy

Just struck me about morse for licensing.
For a Class A licence to TX below 30Mhz you need to be able to send
CW, 12wpm or UK M5 licence 5wpm. Yet if you obtain a Class B licence
to TX above 30Mhz you don't need to take a morse test, yet you can
send and receive using a computer, silly or what ?.

Or what. Sending via a computer (AX25) has no real morse
skill to it,

Agreed, but who is really talking about skill ?.
Amateur Radio is a HOBBY, so why should the powers that be dictate that CW is mandatory. Ok many years ago, yes CW as it was used by almost everyone, but today it really is commercialy dead, apart from 3rd world countries who can't afford to upgrade to satellite or digital.
I suspect you missed the point I was making, in as much that a UK class B licence for above 30Mhz is just a test taking 2 and a half hours, there is no CW at all, yet passing this test will allow you to send/receive CW by whatever means you want.

does the code en/deciphering. All the operator does is
type the proper
character.

Yes, but that is all you are doing using a key, I admit you have to think, mind
you having listened to some operators, they certainly don't. You can tell computer sent CW as it is almost 100% perfect, which in the end is what you want.
Don't get me wrong I'm not fully anti morse, just think it should be made optional with immediate effect, not in years time when the ITU ect decide" Oh we will scrap CW"

I have no idea what the licensing in the US is, I can only go by UK
regs.

5wpm to use 30mhz or below, phone and cw. No code
required for 30mhz and
above.

Same as in the UK.



Regards

Steve

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