Main hub in Z1 down, we are fixing links live on the phone.
xxcarol
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25 Nov 17 13:42, Carol Shenkenberger wrote to All:

Main hub in Z1 down, we are fixing links live on the phone.

"connection to 1:140/1@fidonet failed: Connection refused"

I believe you are talking about this one? No connection to Bob since yesterday morning EET.

'Tommi

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Re: Test, sorry
By: Tommi Koivula to Carol Shenkenberger on Sat Nov 25 2017 08:55 pm

25 Nov 17 13:42, Carol Shenkenberger wrote to All:

Main hub in Z1 down, we are fixing links live on the phone.

"connection to 1:140/1@fidonet failed: Connection refused"

I believe you are talking about this one? No connection to Bob since yesterday morning EET.

Yes, I have via voice that R13 is trying to vote but currently isolated. I am trying to reach Mike Luko via email as I do not have a voice number.

This is expected to be a long term outage at Bob Seaborn's. Not days, but longer, and no, he doesn't need a spare machine.

I don't know how many others may have lost all connection as of about midnight EST.
Carol

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25 Nov 17 14:43, Carol Shenkenberger wrote to Tommi Koivula:

Main hub in Z1 down, we are fixing links live on the phone.

"connection to 1:140/1@fidonet failed: Connection refused"

I believe you are talking about this one? No connection to Bob since
yesterday morning EET.

Yes, I have via voice that R13 is trying to vote but currently isolated.

Every node should have at least two links.

This is expected to be a long term outage at Bob Seaborn's. Not days, but longer, and no, he doesn't need a spare machine.

AFAIK, Bob's OS/2 system is/was running under vmware. It should be easy to restore from a snapshot.

'Tommi

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Every node should have at least two links.

The more the merrier.



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Re: Test, sorry
By: Tommi Koivula to Carol Shenkenberger on Sat Nov 25 2017 10:40 pm

Yes, I have via voice that R13 is trying to vote but currently
isolated.

Every node should have at least two links.

He does, R13 is activating them now per email to me.

Carol
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Hi Carol,

Main hub in Z1 down, we are fixing links live on the phone.

"connection to 1:140/1@fidonet failed: Connection refused"

I believe you are talking about this one? No connection to Bob since
yesterday morning EET.

Yes, I have via voice that R13 is trying to vote but currently isolated. I am
trying to reach Mike Luko via email as I do not have a voice number.

He is connected here now so that is good thing.

This is expected to be a long term outage at Bob Seaborn's. Not days, but longer, and no, he doesn't need a spare machine.

I don't know how many others may have lost all connection as of about midnight
EST.
Carol

I did send an email to Roger Nelson, but I haven't heard back from him :( I'm afraid his email has changed and I don't have that new address.

Take care,
Janis

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I did send an email to Roger Nelson, but I haven't heard back from him :( I'm afraid his email has changed and I don't have that new address.

What? No netmail?

\%/@rd

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Good ${greeting_time}, Björn!

25 Nov 2017 22:56:22, you wrote to Tommi Koivula:

Every node should have at least two links.

The more the merrier.

I have 202.
Bwa-ha-ha-ha-ha?


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I did send an email to Roger Nelson, but I haven't heard back from him :(
I'm afraid his email has changed and I don't have that new address.

What? No netmail?

It was sent, yes... Since some sysops only accept netmail from connected systems, email is sometimes a better option.. if you know the correct email address <bg>

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Re: Re: Test, sorry
By: Ward Dossche to Janis Kracht on Sun Nov 26 2017 10:26 am

I did send an email to Roger Nelson, but I haven't heard back from
him :( I'm afraid his email has changed and I don't have that new
address.

What? No netmail?

With Bob down, no way to netmail him unless a direct connection can be made.

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Hello Janis,

I did send an email to Roger Nelson, but I haven't heard back from him :( JK>>> I'm afraid his email has changed and I don't have that new address.

What? No netmail?

It was sent, yes... Since some sysops only accept netmail from connected systems, email is sometimes a better option.. if you know the correct
email address <bg>

Are there no other options:

A FidoNet Crash NetMail by POTS,
A FidoNet Crash NetMail by TCP/IP,
A voice phone call by POTS,
A voice phone call by VoIP,
A voice phone call by 2G, 3G, 4G mobile phone,
A TeleFAX, fascimile CCITT V21ch2/V27/V29/V33,
A call via 27 Mhz radio,
A message via E-Mail,
A message via Twitter,
A message via FaceBook,
A message via WhattsApp,
A simple card by landpost,
A life visit from a nearby sysop to his home,
A Crash NetMail via an alternet.
A login to his BBS?
Not all of the above may be possible, but some will work.
You also tried to find connection ways via Googling?
Some have parents, kids etc.
May be Caroll xx knows ways via militairy routes?
Forgive me if I forget some method ;-).
Good luck in connecting people.

Henri.

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Forgive me if I forget some method ;-).

Using carrier pidgeons.

Putting the messqge on a USB stick. Driving to where the sysop lives, deliver the USB-stick, waiting for answer while the sysop reads it. Sysop reads message
and writes answer, puts answer to USB-stick. Sysop hands over USB-stick. Drive home 2500 miles, put USB-stick in PC, read answer.

\%/@rd

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Hello Ward,

Forgive me if I forget some method ;-).

Using carrier pidgeons.

Indeed
There was a FTSC document for is not it?

Putting the messqge on a USB stick. Driving to where the sysop lives, deliver the USB-stick, waiting for answer while the sysop reads it.
Sysop reads message and writes answer, puts answer to USB-stick. Sysop

hands over USB-stick. Drive home 2500 miles, put USB-stick in PC, read answer.

You forget simpel good old 5,25" and 3,5" floppy diskettes.
I donot have USB on my 80486DX UniCorn BBS machine.

But instead of driving 2500 Miles,
the sysop can send the diskettes by airmail or landpost, sometimes seapost. Here in NL many years ago we had sometime a modemless point exchanging mail
by diskette for some months, because he studied in another city then where his parents lived. His boss had his BBSystem in the same study town.

Nowadays you could also use a drone as a transport method.
The only problem is the battery capacity for a given distance.
You could see that as a mechanical carrier pidgeon ;-).

Greetings from Henri.

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Good ${greeting_time}, Henri!

29 Nov 2017 14:40:00, you wrote to Ward Dossche:

Using carrier pidgeons.

Indeed
There was a FTSC document for is not it?

No.
However, we have FTS-1026 which should work over RFC-1149 link.


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Hello Henri,

On Wed Nov 29 2017 14:40:00, Henri Derksen wrote to Ward Dossche:

Forgive me if I forget some method ;-).

Using carrier pidgeons.

Indeed
There was a FTSC document for is not it?

No.

Putting the messqge on a USB stick. Driving to where the sysop
lives, deliver the USB-stick, waiting for answer while the sysop
reads it. Sysop reads message and writes answer, puts answer to
USB-stick. Sysop

hands over USB-stick. Drive home 2500 miles, put USB-stick in PC,
read answer.

You forget simpel good old 5,25" and 3,5" floppy diskettes.
I donot have USB on my 80486DX UniCorn BBS machine.

Sure. But, does your NC/RC/ZC have a floppy drive these days? It's quite doubtful.

But instead of driving 2500 Miles,

Still a better idea than the rest.

the sysop can send the diskettes by airmail or landpost, sometimes seapost. Here in NL many years ago we had sometime a modemless point exchanging mail by diskette for some months, because he studied in
another city then where his parents lived. His boss had his BBSystem
in the same study town.

He probably got paid pretty good to do that, too (in those days).

Nowadays you could also use a drone as a transport method.

Only if it's within a km or mile or so. Otherwise, no way.

The only problem is the battery capacity for a given distance.
You could see that as a mechanical carrier pidgeon ;-).

I mean, if you want to see how far the battery can go, then set it up with a GPS so that you don't have to control it, put it on autopilot and see how far it goes. ;)

Regards,
Nick

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Sure. But, does your NC/RC/ZC have a floppy drive these days? It's quite doubtful.

Dunno about his *C, but I do. I even have a ZIP drive, if anyone remember those. 8-)

Nowadays you could also use a drone as a transport method.

Only if it's within a km or mile or so. Otherwise, no way.

My DJI Phantom 3 can reach at least 50km. Probably a few km less with a floppy disc attached to it.



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Hello Bj�rn,

On Thu Nov 30 2017 10:35:28, Bj�rn Felten wrote to Nicholas Boel:

Only if it's within a km or mile or so. Otherwise, no way.

My DJI Phantom 3 can reach at least 50km. Probably a few km less
with a floppy disc attached to it.

And still be remote controlled by your handheld? No way. I don't believe it. I take it there's an auto-pilot setting? Or this thing cost quite a bit of money.

My son wants one for Xmas, and his birthday follows a few months after. So since I've already got him an AWESOME Xmas gift (oh yeah, this kid is fckn spoiled this year), I have time to look into the whole drone ordeal for a few months.. ;)

Suggestions?

Regards,
Nick

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And still be remote controlled by your handheld? No way. I don't believe it. I
take it there's an auto-pilot setting? Or this thing cost quite a bit of money.

Yes, still remote controlled. The signal that fades away first is the visual. There are lots of videos on Youtube where people have flown it even further.

And no, it wasn't very expensive. 450 Euro if I remember correctly.



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My DJI Phantom 3 can reach at least 50km. Probably a few km less
with a floppy disc attached to it.

Mea Culpa! That should of course be 5km! Sorry about that.



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spoiled this year), I have time to look into the whole drone ordeal for
a few months.. ;)

Suggestions?

If cost is no object, I'd go for the DJI Mavic Pro.

If he's most interested in taking selfies, DJI Spark is an excellent choice.


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Nick,

Sure. But, does your NC/RC/ZC have a floppy drive these days? It's quite doubtful.

I have a 3.5" floppy-drive in a box, just in case somebody needs it, and the motherboards can still handle it. The 5 1/4" floppy=drive was disposed of as I can't connect it anymore.

Hey, I've got 3 boxes with brand new 3.5" floppies left. Wanna have them?

\%/@rd

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Nick,

Suggestions?

Spend your money on an electric guitar...

\%/@rd

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Suggestions?

If cost is no object, I'd go for the DJI Mavic Pro.

If he's most interested in taking selfies, DJI Spark is an excellent choice.

We're interested for use as a concert camera flying over the crowds, shooting live video for the production...

\%/@rd

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Hiya Bj÷rn...

Bj÷rn Felten wrote to Nicholas Boel on 11-30-17 14:21 <=-

spoiled this year), I have time to look into the whole drone ordeal for
a few months.. ;)

Suggestions?

If cost is no object, I'd go for the DJI Mavic Pro.

If he's most interested in taking selfies, DJI Spark is an excellent choice.

I just purchsed a GoPro Karma... I'm sure I'll kill some sort of bird with it one day.. :)


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-=> Nicholas Boel wrote to Henri Derksen on 11-30-17 02:37 <=-

On Wed Nov 29 2017 14:40:00, Henri Derksen wrote to Ward Dossche:

Forgive me if I forget some method ;-).

Using carrier pidgeons.

Indeed
There was a FTSC document for is not it?

No.

Putting the messqge on a USB stick. Driving to where the sysop
lives, deliver the USB-stick, waiting for answer while the sysop
reads it. Sysop reads message and writes answer, puts answer to
USB-stick. Sysop

hands over USB-stick. Drive home 2500 miles, put USB-stick in PC,
read answer.

You forget simpel good old 5,25" and 3,5" floppy diskettes.
I donot have USB on my 80486DX UniCorn BBS machine.

Sure. But, does your NC/RC/ZC have a floppy drive these days? It's
quite doubtful.

Believe it or not... I still have a 3.5"... (USB though... ) :)


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Bj÷rn Felten wrote to Nicholas Boel on 11-30-17 14:16 <=-

My DJI Phantom 3 can reach at least 50km. Probably a few km less
with a floppy disc attached to it.

Mea Culpa! That should of course be 5km! Sorry about that.

LOL... now you have me laughing here.... at first I was like... 50km... DAMN!!!


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Hello Bj�rn,

On Thu Nov 30 2017 14:16:04, Bj�rn Felten wrote to Nicholas Boel:

My DJI Phantom 3 can reach at least 50km. Probably a few km
less with a floppy disc attached to it.

Mea Culpa! That should of course be 5km! Sorry about that.

That's still far for something remote controlled. But definitely a big difference between 50km and 5km, which is why I originally got so excited. ;)

Regards,
Nick

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Hello Bj�rn,

On Thu Nov 30 2017 14:21:58, Bj�rn Felten wrote to Nicholas Boel:

Suggestions?

If cost is no object, I'd go for the DJI Mavic Pro.

If he's most interested in taking selfies, DJI Spark is an
excellent choice.

Hah! Selfies are definitely not of interest. Heck, we can even get him to pose for a nice picture (much like me). ;)

To be honest, I don't even think video capture would be much of interest. Just viewing real-time in good quality while flying, is all I would be interested in. If video capture came with, it would just be a bonus.

Regards,
Nick

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Hello Ward,

On Thu Nov 30 2017 14:08:56, Ward Dossche wrote to Nicholas Boel:

Sure. But, does your NC/RC/ZC have a floppy drive these days? It's
quite doubtful.

I have a 3.5" floppy-drive in a box, just in case somebody needs it,
and the motherboards can still handle it. The 5 1/4" floppy=drive was disposed of as I can't connect it anymore.

Hey, I've got 3 boxes with brand new 3.5" floppies left. Wanna have
them?

Absolutely not. I have enough computer junk laying around that I've started taking it to the local electronics store for recycling. ;)

Regards,
Nick

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Hello Ward,

On Thu Nov 30 2017 14:10:24, Ward Dossche wrote to Nicholas Boel:

Suggestions?

Spend your money on an electric guitar...

I have one of those already, just waiting for one of the kids to show interest.

Regards,
Nick

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Hello Bill,

On Thu Nov 30 2017 10:20:00, Bill McGarrity wrote to Nicholas Boel:

Sure. But, does your NC/RC/ZC have a floppy drive these days?
It's quite doubtful.

Believe it or not... I still have a 3.5"... (USB though... ) :)

I bet it makes a great paperweight! ;)

The only 3.5" stuff here I have is hard drives. 10+ TB worth, most in a raid configuration unless they're not going to contain anything important. All I seem to need these days. I have a couple plastic logs of CDRWs and DVDRWs that haven't been used in ages, and a USB adapter for microSD cards, usually only to
move things from old phones to my backup drives and/or to install an operating system in a VM (switching to VMWare Sphere Hypervisor has now made that redundant too, as I can just copy the .iso to the physical machine's datastore and install with a virtual drive).

Regards,
Nick

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Hello Henri!

Wednesday November 29 2017 14:40, you wrote to Ward Dossche:

You forget simpel good old 5,25" and 3,5" floppy diskettes.
I donot have USB on my 80486DX UniCorn BBS machine.

You missed the 8" one's the originals for 1.2 and 1.4Mb.


Vince

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Re: Test, sorry.
By: Henri Derksen to Janis Kracht on Mon Nov 27 2017 09:57 am

May be Caroll xx knows ways via militairy routes?

LOL, in some cases yes.

xxcarol
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Hello Vince,

You forget simpel good old 5,25" and 3,5" floppy diskettes.
I donot have USB on my 80486DX UniCorn BBS machine.

You missed the 8" one's the originals for 1.2 and 1.4Mb.

Yes, but that was never used as a transportmedium for FidoNet messages.
28 years ago I got a CP/M machine with 8 Inch floppy drive and a 5 Meg HDD in it, never tried this aparatus. I think I'll bring it to a computer museum.
By the way, 8" did not have a capacity of 1.2 or 1.4 MB?
Case closed I think, as Michiel asked, or answer in netmail if you need to.

Henri.

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Hello Vince,

You forget simpel good old 5,25" and 3,5" floppy diskettes.
I donot have USB on my 80486DX UniCorn BBS machine.

You missed the 8" one's the originals for 1.2 and 1.4Mb.

Yes, but that was never used as a transportmedium for FidoNet messages.
28 years ago I got a CP/M machine with 8 Inch floppy drive and a 5 Meg
HDD in it, never tried this aparatus. I think I'll bring it to a computer museum.
By the way, 8" did not have a capacity of 1.2 or 1.4 MB?
Case closed I think, as Michiel asked, or answer in netmail if you need
to.

Henri.

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Hello Henri!

Tuesday December 12 2017 12:37, you wrote to me:

Hello Vince,

You forget simpel good old 5,25" and 3,5" floppy diskettes.
I donot have USB on my 80486DX UniCorn BBS machine.

You missed the 8" one's the originals for 1.2 and 1.4Mb.

Yes, but that was never used as a transportmedium for FidoNet
messages. 28 years ago I got a CP/M machine with 8 Inch floppy drive
and a 5 Meg HDD in it, never tried this aparatus. I think I'll bring
it to a computer museum. By the way, 8" did not have a capacity of 1.2
or 1.4 MB? Case closed I think, as Michiel asked, or answer in netmail
if you need to.

Sorry but 8" on some kit had double cap. of >2Mb and yes I did use them to pass
files as I had a Cromemco at work running *nix with twin 8" drives and a DASD containning a 80Mb fixed with a 16Mb removable as well as a slightly smaller one at home also running *nix but without any hard drives until 86 or so when installed some SCSI units.

Should also point out that I used a DAT drive on the home one and then only sent those out for file updates via the UK Filegate host as he did not run to dual fast pots systems (64kb x 2) but USR modems as most of us.


Vince

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