Why does RJ need to be vouched for? Are we automatically mistrusting people now?
So, what will you do to assist the FTSC during the next two years?
Are there any particular documents that you think needs updating?
So, what will you do to assist the FTSC during the next two years?
Are there any particular documents that you think needs updating?
Good questions that I would like to see all the candidates respond
to.
If you expect some candidate promising free lollies for everybody, you might be disappointed. The tasks of the FTSC are defined.
Nov 03 10:11 2017, Jeff Smith wrote to Björn Felten:
If you expect some candidate promising free lollies for everybody, you might be disappointed. The tasks of the FTSC are defined.
Vote wisely!
I know and realize that the tasks are specified. But that does not establish a candidates attitude or outlook on what (s)he want to
see.
Vote wisely!
Given sufficient input that would be my goal.
From my vantage-point the FTSC could reach the same levels of productivity if half of its present membership were annihilated.
It really would interest me to learn from certain individuals why
they accepted the nomination (and also why certain others nominated them).
So far I haven't seen much from the other candidates.
My personal intention is to have proper documentation with clear definitions.100 percent agree.
Too often I've stumbled across defintions allowing ambiguous interpretations when I was trying to find out how to implement aWell, to implement a small feature, called CDP, an automated connection of points on my system, I've nearly read and revised about 20 ftsc-documents.
feature.
mfreq and nl2binkd are some of my projects. And for the husky projectI know. My actual project is a nodelist-checking, to stuck the features of makenl and errflags together. Currently I adopt errflags and makenl to OS/2, compile Golded+ to OS/2. My own projects are tiroute, a extractor of the nodelist for binkd and itrack, and to compile golded+ to OS/2.
I've also submitted several bug fixes and code for new features.
ciao,Bye/2 Torsten
Markus
On 11-06-17 03:18, Ward Dossche <=-
spoke to Carol Shenkenberger about Re: Status of nominations <=-
It was well known I couldnt access the ZCC traffic while at sea but that
I
could be netmailed via Dale at need and Bob could divert netmail to Dale if it was something critical.
Hmmmm ... so you are saying that your netmail was monitored by a 3rd party?
Hmmmm ... so you are saying that your netmail was monitored by a 3rd DS>WD> party?
She didn't say, but I will. I did not read her netmail, ...
... and Xxx could divert netmail to Dale if it was something critical.
If you expect some candidate promising free lollies for everybody,From my vantage-point the FTSC could reach the same levels of
you might be disappointed. The tasks of the FTSC are defined.
productivity if half of its present membership were annihilated.
It really would interest me to learn from certain individuals
why they accepted the nomination (and also why certain others
nominated them).
I don't know what other FTSC members are thinking about transparency,
but it could be a good idea to open the FTSC echo (read only?), so
that voters can assess the candidate's performance. That would be
much better than candidates only telling voters what they intend to
do (newcomers still would have to, of course).
So far I haven't seen much from the other candidates.Perhaps a bridge too far, but maybe those hiding between the
Mangrove roots in the forest should not become elected then.
Add to that that during his entire tenure he hasn't posted a
single message in either the FTSC echo nor this one. Great help he
has been...
Add to that that during his entire tenure he hasn't posted a single
message in either the FTSC echo nor this one. Great help he has
been...
What I would like to see (from Michiel, the moderator) is a report of
the candidates who are currently on the FTSC and the number of
messages they have posted in the private echo, so we can see who is participating, and who is just sitting on their hands. I think an appropriate time frame would be 2 years (the length of their last
term).
Add to that that during his entire tenure he hasn't posted aWhat I would like to see (from Michiel, the moderator) is a report
single message in either the FTSC echo nor this one. Great
help he has been...
of the candidates who are currently on the FTSC and the number of
messages they have posted in the private echo, so we can see who is participating, and who is just sitting on their hands. I think an appropriate time frame would be 2 years (the length of their last
term).
What I would like to see (from Michiel, the moderator) is a report of
the candidates who are currently on the FTSC and the number of
messages they have posted in the private echo, so we can see who is
participating, and who is just sitting on their hands. I think an
appropriate time frame would be 2 years (the length of their last
term).
just because one posts messages in the FTSC echo doesn't mean that those messages are all about FTSC work... this is a poor thermometer of participation...
It really would interest me to learn from certain individuals
why they accepted the nomination (and also why certain others
nominated them).
If I am among these people, here's my answer: to continue finding inconsistencies and other stupidities in the documents.
just because one posts messages in the FTSC echo doesn't mean that
those messages are all about FTSC work... this is a poor thermometer
of participation...
Possibly we have to move most of our discussions from FTSC echoarea
here (to FTSC_PUBLIC), but we really need such "counsillation place".
For example, we could keep all technical discussions public, leaving
the FTSC area only for counsils.
just because one posts messages in the FTSC echo doesn't mean that
those messages are all about FTSC work... this is a poor thermometer
of participation...
They may be posting nonsense, but at least they aren't sleeping.
Possibly we have to move most of our discussions from FTSC echoarea
here (to FTSC_PUBLIC), but we really need such "counsillation place".
For example, we could keep all technical discussions public, leaving
the FTSC area only for counsils.
Makes sense. We could also create a dedicated public echo for
technical discussions (read-only by default, read-write for FTSC
members)
Makes sense. We could also create a dedicated public echo for
technical discussions (read-only by default, read-write for FTSC
members)
how is it proposed to enforce RO status on non-FTSC members? you do remember the mess(es) in FIDONEWS, FIDO_SYSOP and FN_SYSOP, right?
Makes sense. We could also create a dedicated public echo for
technical discussions (read-only by default, read-write for FTSC
members)
how is it proposed to enforce RO status on non-FTSC members? you do
remember the mess(es) in FIDONEWS, FIDO_SYSOP and FN_SYSOP, right?
Who would be interested in watching the FTSC members? Mostly RCs, I'd guess. That should be managaable. Or am I too optimistic?
What I would like to see (from Michiel, the moderator) is a report of
the candidates who are currently on the FTSC and the number of
messages they have posted in the private echo, so we can see who is participating, and who is just sitting on their hands.
On 11-06-17 09:12, Ward Dossche <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Status of nomination <=-
Hmmmm ... so you are saying that your netmail was monitored by a 3rd party?
She didn't say, but I will. I did not read her netmail, ...
And I never said you did, however ... Carol wrote ...
... and Xxx could divert netmail to Dale if it was something critical.
How could Xxx decide if it was critical and needed
diverting other than by reading such in-transit netmail?
Hmmmm ... so you are saying that your netmail was monitored by a
3rd party?
She didn't say, but I will. I did not read her netmail, ...
And I never said you did, however ... Carol wrote ...
... and Xxx could divert netmail to Dale if it was something
critical.
I don't know what other FTSC members are thinking about
transparency, but it could be a good idea to open the FTSC echo
(read only?), so that voters can assess the candidate's performance.
That would be much better than candidates only telling voters what
they intend to do (newcomers still would have to, of course).
Possibly we have to move most of our discussions from FTSC echoarea here (to FTSC_PUBLIC), but we really need such "counsillation place". For example, we could keep all technical discussions public, leaving the FTSC area only for counsils.
What I would like to see (from Michiel, the moderator) is a report AV>FR> of the candidates who are currently on the FTSC and the number of
messages they have posted in the private echo, so we can see who is AV>FR> participating, and who is just sitting on their hands. I think an
appropriate time frame would be 2 years (the length of their last
term).
I like this idea - that would show up both the dead souls and chatterboxers.
Per-month statistics would be even better for that purpose.
Here you go ...
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Top 23 of the writers.
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1. Michiel van der Vlist 310 34.3% 811913 2619
2. mark lewis 155 17.2% 198715 1282
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1. Michiel van der Vlist 310 34.3% 811913 2619
2. mark lewis 155 17.2% 198715 1282
Thank you Ward! That is exactly what I was looking for.
It says nothing about the quality of the output of what was produced.
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1. Michiel van der Vlist 310 34.3% 811913 2619
2. mark lewis 155 17.2% 198715 1282
Thank you Ward! That is exactly what I was looking for.
It says nothing about the quality of the output of what was produced.
Michiel can be a real pain in the butt at times but he's the one
pulling the FTSC together. And as one of the voters did, trying to eliminate him as well as Alexey, is unacceptable.
interesting... i wonder who that was? is it any less bad that one of the candidates has threatened to DDoS other FTN systems off the 'net if they attempt to provide certain services or other communications methods??
interesting... i wonder who that was? is it any less bad that one of
the candidates has threatened to DDoS other FTN systems off the 'net
if they attempt to provide certain services or other communications
methods??
Name names, show proof or shut up.
i like this... it should also be noted that the current root-domain
to use is binkp.net for the FTN fidonet domain...
at one time it was discussed to create a new line in the header of the nodelist that indicates the default 'root-domain' for fidonet to use
for those folks with advanced enough software to be able to use such additional capabilities... as long as historical methods and formats
are still accepted, i don't see a problem...
If any domain will be enforced, I'll do my best to kill it.you mean like doing underhanded things like DDOSing the root servers
for the domain in question?? that's a real "nice thing" to do :(
i do not like your games like that which you have brought forth...
they are not in the spirit of fidonet and comms links...
,1000,netmail<->email_gate,central_NC_USA,UUCP,1-919-774-5930,33600,see above for the fnz conversion protocol to determine the system
XA,V34,CM,ITN,IBN:ftn.wpusa.dynip.com,IVM,PING,U,UUCP
address when one is not specifically written in the nodelist entry... hint: f1000.n3634.z1.binkp.net
,3000,wpusa_FTN_test_system,central_NC_USA,mark_lewis,-Unpublished-,see above for the fnz conversion protocol to determine the system
300,XA,ICM,ITN,IBN:ftn.wpusa.dynip.com,IVM,PING
address when one is not specifically written in the nodelist entry... hint: f3000.n3634.z1.binkp.net
Imagine I'd kill binkp.net (that would take a couple of seconds withi doubt that... another service would come up to fill the void...
20...30k hosts) and keep it dead for some time - 2 weeks for a
"Hold", 2 weeks for a "Down" and... voila: these idiotic nodes would
leave the nodelist :-)
Name names, show proof or shut up.
done... extraneous verbiage [CHOMP]ed out for brevity...
Name names, show proof or shut up.
done... extraneous verbiage [CHOMP]ed out for brevity...
Thank you for the effort.
I think you are pulling something totally out of context to prove a
point there isn't.
the threat is enough... members of the FTSC should be promoting
development and packet switching experimentation... they should not be threatening DDoS on services or development they do not like...
the threat is enough... members of the FTSC should be promoting
development and packet switching experimentation... they should not be
threatening DDoS on services or development they do not like...
There wasn't a threat at all ... maybe a very convenient goof.
If any domain will be enforced, I'll do my best to kill it.----- snip -----
----- snip -----Imagine I'd kill binkp.net (that would take a couple of seconds with
20...30k hosts) and keep it dead for some time - 2 weeks for a
"Hold", 2 weeks for a "Down" and... voila: these idiotic nodes would
leave the nodelist :-)
i doubt that... another service would come up to fill the void...
It would be laid down as well - DDoS is cheap to run and fast to
settle.
Pls get real.
I think you are pulling something totally out of context to prove a
point there isn't.
But when someone writes something like Alex did, it is automatically a well-inted and well-versed threat by a person who suddenly "is"
capable of expressing himself clearly and without margin of doubt?
interesting... i wonder who that was? is it any less bad that one of
the candidates has threatened to DDoS other FTN systems off the 'net
if they attempt to provide certain services or other communications
methods??
Name names, show proof or shut up.
done... extraneous verbiage [CHOMP]ed out for brevity...
I think you are pulling something totally out of context to prove a
point there isn't.
And not just that, you are quoting from the private FTSC echo and that
is a no-no.
And not just that, you are quoting from the private FTSC echo and
that is a no-no.
i was told to put up or shut up... i did...
now there's no doubt about those posts or those statements... thanks
for confirming them...
if those statements are not threats, then you are the most beautiful
woman ever seen on this earth...
And not just that, you are quoting from the private FTSC echo and
that is a no-no.
i was told to put up or shut up... i did...
And you always follow orders?
Even if by doing that you break the gentleman's agreement with your
fellow FTSC members that the private FTSC echo is private? You had the choice to shut up...
now there's no doubt about those posts or those statements... thanks
for confirming them...
All I confirmed is that you quoted from the private FTSC echo,
thereby breaking a gentleman"s agreement. I would not be surprised if someone remembers that next year when you are up for re-election.
if those statements are not threats, then you are the most beautiful
woman ever seen on this earth...
Thank you. My daughters claim I fit easily a cup-B bra, so you may
have a point.
with the hell i raised a few elections back and i was still selected, i don't see a problem...
Thank you. My daughters claim I fit easily a cup-B bra, so you may ml>WD> have a point.
hahahahahahaha!! fitting a B-cup is a long way from being beautiful,
though ;) ;) ;)
with the hell i raised a few elections back and i was still selected,
i don't see a problem...
Half of the FTSC should not be elected due to insufficient
Fidotechnical competence. You're part of that half IMO.
Thank you. My daughters claim I fit easily a cup-B bra, so you may
have a point.
hahahahahahaha!! fitting a B-cup is a long way from being beautiful,
though ;) ;) ;)
My nipples look better than yours ... I don't step on them.
Nick Andre wrote to Mark Lewis <=-
I see candidates running who I will bet cannot explain how a mailer or nodelist compiler works
I see candidates running who I will bet cannot explain how a mailer or nodelist compiler works, or why certain FTSC documents are written the way they are. I challenge all those running to answer a highly technical FTSC "exam" if such would exist. The kind of answers one cannot easily Google.
Thank you. My daughters claim I fit easily a cup-B bra, so you may
have a point.
hahahahahahaha!! fitting a B-cup is a long way from being
beautiful, though ;) ;) ;)
My nipples look better than yours ... I don't step on them.
ahem... i don't need a bra ;)
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