• Status of nominations

    From Election Coordinator@2:2/20 to All on Mon Oct 23 11:57:34 2017

    Candidate Node nr. Nmntd by Accepted

    Dallas Hinton 1:153/715 RC17
    RJ Clay 1:120/544 RC17
    Bjorn Felten 2:202/2 RC16
    Alexey Vissarionov 2:5020/545 RC16 Yes
    Markus Reschke 2:240/1661 RC16
    Michiel van der Vlist 2:280/5555 RC16 Yes



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  • From Paul Quinn@3:640/1384 to Election Coordinator on Mon Oct 23 20:26:24 2017
    Hi! Michiel,

    On 23 Oct 17 11:57, you wrote to All:

    Candidate Node nr. Nmntd by Accepted

    Dallas Hinton 1:153/715 RC17
    RJ Clay 1:120/544 RC17
    Bjorn Felten 2:202/2 RC16

    ^^^
    Oops --------------------------+++

    Alexey Vissarionov 2:5020/545 RC16 Yes
    Markus Reschke 2:240/1661 RC16
    Michiel van der Vlist 2:280/5555 RC16 Yes

    Ciao.

    Cheers,
    Paul.

    ... Broken pencils are pointless.
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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Election Coordinator on Mon Oct 23 13:33:50 2017

    Candidate Node nr. Nmntd by Accepted

    Bjorn Felten 2:202/2 RC16

    2:202/2 is not attributed as a nodenumber.

    \%/@rd

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  • From Election Coordinator@2:2/20 to All on Mon Oct 23 14:38:28 2017

    Candidate Node nr. Nmntd by Accepted

    Dallas Hinton 1:153/715 RC17
    RJ Clay 1:120/544 RC17
    Bjorn Felten 2:203/2 RC16
    Alexey Vissarionov 2:5020/545 RC16 Yes
    Markus Reschke 2:240/1661 RC16 Yes
    Michiel van der Vlist 2:280/5555 RC16 Yes
    Torsten Bamberg 2:240/5832 RC28



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  • From Election Coordinator@2:2/20 to All on Mon Oct 23 17:54:34 2017

    Candidate Node nr. Nmntd by Accepted

    Dallas Hinton 1:153/715 RC17
    RJ Clay 1:120/544 RC17
    Bjorn Felten 2:203/2 RC16 Yes
    Alexey Vissarionov 2:5020/545 RC16 Yes
    Markus Reschke 2:240/1661 RC16 Yes
    Michiel van der Vlist 2:280/5555 RC16 Yes
    Torsten Bamberg 2:240/5832 RC28



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  • From Election Coordinator@2:2/20 to All on Mon Oct 23 19:57:51 2017

    Candidate Node nr. Nmntd by Accepted

    Dallas Hinton 1:153/715 RC17
    RJ Clay 1:120/544 RC17
    Bjorn Felten 2:203/2 RC16 Yes
    Alexey Vissarionov 2:5020/545 RC16 Yes
    Markus Reschke 2:240/1661 RC16 Yes
    Michiel van der Vlist 2:280/5555 RC16 Yes
    Torsten Bamberg 2:240/5832 RC28
    Mark Hofmann 1:261/1304 RC17



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  • From Dallas Hinton@1:153/715 to Election Coordinator on Mon Oct 23 16:42:00 2017
    Hi Election -- on Oct 23 2017 at 11:57, you wrote:

    Dallas Hinton 1:153/715 RC17

    I accept!


    Cheers... Dallas

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  • From Election Coordinator@2:2/20 to All on Tue Oct 24 09:31:00 2017

    Candidate Node nr. Nmntd by Accepted

    Dallas Hinton 1:153/715 RC17 Yes
    RJ Clay 1:120/544 RC17
    Bjorn Felten 2:203/2 RC16 Yes
    Alexey Vissarionov 2:5020/545 RC16 Yes
    Markus Reschke 2:240/1661 RC16 Yes
    Michiel van der Vlist 2:280/5555 RC16 Yes
    Torsten Bamberg 2:240/5832 RC28
    Mark Hofmann 1:261/1304 RC17



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  • From Election Coordinator@2:2/20 to All on Tue Oct 24 21:10:04 2017

    Candidate Node nr. Nmntd by Accepted

    Dallas Hinton 1:153/715 RC17 Yes
    RJ Clay 1:120/544 RC17
    Bjorn Felten 2:203/2 RC16 Yes
    Alexey Vissarionov 2:5020/545 RC16 Yes
    Markus Reschke 2:240/1661 RC16 Yes
    Michiel van der Vlist 2:280/5555 RC16 Yes
    Torsten Bamberg 2:240/5832 RC28 Yes
    Mark Hofmann 1:261/1304 RC17



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  • From Mark Hofmann@1:261/1304 to Election Coordinator on Wed Oct 25 15:29:55 2017

    Dallas Hinton 1:153/715 RC17
    RJ Clay 1:120/544 RC17
    Bjorn Felten 2:203/2 RC16 Yes
    Alexey Vissarionov 2:5020/545 RC16 Yes
    Markus Reschke 2:240/1661 RC16 Yes
    Michiel van der Vlist 2:280/5555 RC16 Yes
    Torsten Bamberg 2:240/5832 RC28
    Mark Hofmann 1:261/1304 RC17

    Not sure if I should be replying to this one, but ACK.

    - Mark

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  • From Election Coordinator@2:2/20 to All on Thu Oct 26 12:47:10 2017

    Candidate Node nr. Nmntd by Accepted

    Dallas Hinton 1:153/715 RC17 Yes
    RJ Clay 1:120/544 RC17
    Bjorn Felten 2:203/2 RC16 Yes
    Alexey Vissarionov 2:5020/545 RC16 Yes
    Markus Reschke 2:240/1661 RC16 Yes
    Michiel van der Vlist 2:280/5555 RC16 Yes
    Torsten Bamberg 2:240/5832 RC28 Yes
    Mark Hofmann 1:261/1304 RC17 Yes



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  • From Election Coordinator@2:2/20 to All on Sat Oct 28 23:19:41 2017

    Candidate Node nr. Nmntd by Accepted

    Dallas Hinton 1:153/715 RC17 Yes
    RJ Clay 1:120/544 RC17
    Bjorn Felten 2:203/2 RC16 Yes
    Alexey Vissarionov 2:5020/545 RC16 Yes
    Markus Reschke 2:240/1661 RC16 Yes
    Michiel van der Vlist 2:280/5555 RC16 Yes
    Torsten Bamberg 2:240/5832 RC28 Yes
    Mark Hofmann 1:261/1304 RC17 Yes
    Sean Dennis 1:18/200 RC16



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  • From Election Coordinator@2:2/20 to All on Mon Oct 30 10:13:46 2017

    Candidate Node nr. Nmntd by Accepted

    Dallas Hinton 1:153/715 RC17 Yes
    RJ Clay 1:120/544 RC17
    Bjorn Felten 2:203/2 RC16 Yes
    Alexey Vissarionov 2:5020/545 RC16 Yes
    Markus Reschke 2:240/1661 RC16 Yes
    Michiel van der Vlist 2:280/5555 RC16 Yes
    Torsten Bamberg 2:240/5832 RC28 Yes
    Mark Hofmann 1:261/1304 RC17 Yes
    Sean Dennis 1:18/200 RC16 Yes



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  • From Rj Clay@1:261/38 to Election Coordinator on Mon Oct 30 21:41:26 2017
    Candidate Node nr. Nmntd by Accepted
    RJ Clay 1:120/544 RC17


    I accept the nomination.



    Robert James Clay
    1:120/544@fidonet
    rjclay@gmail.com

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  • From Election Coordinator@2:2/20 to All on Wed Nov 1 10:10:06 2017

    Candidate Node nr. Nmntd by Accepted

    Dallas Hinton 1:153/715 RC17 Yes
    RJ Clay 1:120/544 RC17
    Bjorn Felten 2:203/2 RC16 Yes
    Alexey Vissarionov 2:5020/545 RC16 Yes
    Markus Reschke 2:240/1661 RC16 Yes
    Michiel van der Vlist 2:280/5555 RC16 Yes
    Torsten Bamberg 2:240/5832 RC28 Yes
    Mark Hofmann 1:261/1304 RC17 Yes
    Sean Dennis 1:18/200 RC16 Yes
    Ward Dossche 2:292/854 RC25



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  • From Election Coordinator@2:2/20 to All on Wed Nov 1 10:39:13 2017

    Candidate Node nr. Nmntd by Accepted

    Dallas Hinton 1:153/715 RC17 Yes
    RJ Clay 1:120/544 RC17 Yes
    Bjorn Felten 2:203/2 RC16 Yes
    Alexey Vissarionov 2:5020/545 RC16 Yes
    Markus Reschke 2:240/1661 RC16 Yes
    Michiel van der Vlist 2:280/5555 RC16 Yes
    Torsten Bamberg 2:240/5832 RC28 Yes
    Mark Hofmann 1:261/1304 RC17 Yes
    Sean Dennis 1:18/200 RC16 Yes
    Ward Dossche 2:292/854 RC25 No



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  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Rj Clay on Thu Nov 2 13:22:23 2017
    Hi Rj,

    On 2017-10-30 21:41:26, you wrote to Election Coordinator:

    @MSGID: 1:261/38.0 7d886447

    Candidate Node nr. Nmntd by Accepted
    RJ Clay 1:120/544 RC17

    I accept the nomination.


    Robert James Clay
    1:120/544@fidonet
    rjclay@gmail.com

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    I'm wondering why you wrote this on someone elses bbs? Can't you post from your
    own system?

    How do we even know this is written by RJ Clay in person?

    Bye, Wilfred.

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  • From Janis Kracht@1:261/38 to Wilfred van Velzen on Thu Nov 2 11:31:54 2017
    How do we even know this is written by RJ Clay in person?

    I could show you my log showing him logging in from _his_ location/ip but why bother... you wouldn't believe that either I suspect :)

    Take care,
    Janis

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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Wilfred van Velzen on Thu Nov 2 16:34:00 2017
    How do we even know this is written by RJ Clay in person?

    Good question. I'll keep that in mind when I ask the R20 sysops for advice about how I'll cast my vote.

    Maybe RC17 (Black Hole Bob) can shred some light about this nomination?



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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Janis Kracht on Thu Nov 2 16:40:16 2017
    I could show you my log showing him logging in from _his_ location/ip
    but why bother... you wouldn't believe that either I suspect :)

    Seriously?

    Why is this FTSC election so important to you and Bob each and every year?

    Anyhow, now I know my recommendation for the R20 sysops when I'll ask for their advice.


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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Janis Kracht on Thu Nov 2 16:44:19 2017
    I could show you my log

    I'm sure you can. But I think my log is longer than yours so you loose. Sorry. 8-)





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  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Janis Kracht on Thu Nov 2 16:39:19 2017
    Hi Janis,

    On 2017-11-02 11:31:54, you wrote to me:

    How do we even know this is written by RJ Clay in person?

    I could show you my log showing him logging in from _his_ location/ip but why bother... you wouldn't believe that either I suspect :)

    Why wouldn't I trust you? ;) So you vouch for him this was the real RJ?

    But the question remains why he used your system for posting this message, and not his own?

    Bye, Wilfred.

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  • From Janis Kracht@1:261/38 to Bj÷rn Felten on Thu Nov 2 12:02:36 2017
    I could show you my log showing him logging in from _his_ location/ip
    but why bother... you wouldn't believe that either I suspect :)

    Seriously?

    Why is this FTSC election so important to you and Bob each and every year?

    You are the one making a stink, not me :)

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  • From Janis Kracht@1:261/38 to Wilfred van Velzen on Thu Nov 2 12:07:06 2017
    Hi Wilfred,

    So you vouch for him this was the real RJ?

    The "real RJ"? I only know one Jame Clay and that message was from him.

    But the question remains why he used your system for posting this message, and
    not his own?

    He can answer that if he cares to. Not important to me.

    Take care,
    Janis

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  • From Jeff Smith@1:282/1031 to Wilfred Van Velzen on Thu Nov 2 13:42:56 2017
    Hello Wilfred,

    How do we even know this is written by RJ Clay in person?

    I could show you my log showing him logging in from _his_ location/ip but
    why bother... you wouldn't believe that either I suspect :)

    Why wouldn't I trust you? ;) So you vouch for him this was the real RJ?

    Why does RJ need to be vouched for? Are we automatically mistrusting people now?

    But the question remains why he used your system for posting this message

    For you maybe. I sometimes have posted from other systems. Should my remote posts be automatically doubted?

    I'm sure that if RJ thinks that it is important enough to bother with he will respond.

    EOT as far as I am concerned.

    Jeff

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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Janis Kracht on Fri Nov 3 06:33:17 2017
    Seriously?

    Why is this FTSC election so important to you and Bob each and every
    year?

    You are the one making a stink, not me :)

    Is that your answer?



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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Rj Clay on Fri Nov 3 06:36:30 2017
    I accept the nomination.

    So, what will you do to assist the FTSC during the next two years?

    Are there any particular documents that you think needs updating?



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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854.1 to Bjorn Felten on Fri Nov 3 08:03:27 2017
    So, what will you do to assist the FTSC during the next two years?

    Are there any particular documents that you think needs updating?

    Perhaps this question could be directed at all the candidates?

    "Why do you want to be an FTSC-member and what will your contribution be in the
    process?"

    Ward
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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Ward Dossche on Fri Nov 3 14:00:46 2017
    Perhaps this question could be directed at all the candidates?

    I know all of the candidates, so I don't have to ask them about their dedication to the FTN.

    I think those who do not understand how the FTSC works would better ask the question to the rest of the candidates, rather then questioning the Election Coordinator.

    Alas, the political game goes on as usual every year, and it's detrimental to our network for sure... :(





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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854.1 to Bjorn Felten on Fri Nov 3 10:53:44 2017
    I think those who do not understand how the FTSC works would better ask the question to the rest of the candidates, rather then questioning the Election Coordinator.

    I think it is valid to ask someone why he/she is running ... even someone who's
    been in the game for eons.

    Alas, the political game goes on as usual every year, and it's detrimental to our network for sure... :(

    It's all perception ...

    Ward

    (my machine complains you have odd characters in yr name, I need to edit that prior to sending)
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  • From Rj Clay@1:261/38 to Wilfred Van Velzen on Sun Nov 5 15:50:32 2017
    Hi Wilfred!

    Hi Rj,
    On 2017-10-30 21:41:26, you wrote to Election Coordinator:
    @MSGID: 1:261/38.0 7d886447
    Candidate Node nr. Nmntd by Accepted
    RJ Clay 1:120/544 RC17
    I accept the nomination.
    Robert James Clay
    1:120/544@fidonet
    rjclay@gmail.com
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    I'm wondering why you wrote this on someone elses bbs?

    Because I had to completely reinstall (from old backups) my fidonet nodes on completely new systems but while the hub operations are mostly working again on
    my 1:120/544 node, many other things are not. (My 1:120/546 node is reinstalled again on another system but not yet fully operational, & my 1:120/545 node was back up briefly but its host systemm had a hardware failure.) And it's not helped not being able to work on it very often, nor that it's not the only thing I need to work on...


    Can't you post from you own system?

    That'd certianly be nice. If I can't make progress otherwise, I'll likely try posting from the command line.


    How do we even know this is written by RJ Clay in person?

    Would posting to a remote bbs (which even my own systems are, effectively) even be considered as "in person"?

    In any case, Janis should be able to attest regarding who I am, as she is the one who reminded me via email of what's going on and who hosts this bbs that'd I'm posting on (& where I've maintained a backup login account for a very long time...).



    Jame
    Robert James Clay
    1:120/544@fidonet
    rjclay@gmail.com

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  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Rj Clay on Sun Nov 5 22:46:20 2017
    Hi Rj,

    On 2017-11-05 15:50:32, you wrote to me:

    Because I had to completely reinstall (from old backups) my fidonet
    nodes on completely new systems but while the hub operations are
    mostly working again on my 1:120/544 node, many other things are not.
    (My 1:120/546 node is reinstalled again on another system but not yet fully operational, & my 1:120/545 node was back up briefly but its
    host systemm had a hardware failure.) And it's not helped not being
    able to work on it very often, nor that it's not the only thing I need
    to work on...

    If you don't even have the time to fix your own system(s), what time can you spend on the FTSC? So why are you even running as candidate?

    Bye, Wilfred.

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  • From Carol Shenkenberger@1:275/100 to Rj Clay on Sun Nov 5 20:31:20 2017
    Re: Re: Status of nominations
    By: Rj Clay to Wilfred Van Velzen on Sun Nov 05 2017 03:50 pm

    I'm wondering why you wrote this on someone elses bbs?

    Because I had to completely reinstall (from old backups) my fidonet nodes on completely new systems but while the hub operations are mostly working again on my 1:120/544 node, many other things are not. (My 1:120/546 node is reinstalled again on another system but not yet fully operational, & my
    1:120/545 node was back up briefly but its host systemm had a hardware failure.) And it's not helped not being able to work on it very often, nor
    that it's not the only thing I need to work on...

    No biggie. When I was in Japan, a lot of my posts came out from Dale Shipp as he was file attaching QWK packets to me at sea and I was file attaching my returns back to him via email.

    It was well known I couldnt access the ZCC traffic while at sea but that I could be netmailed via Dale at need and Bob could divert netmail to Dale if it was something critical.

    Sometimes, you do what you need to for a situation.

    Carol
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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Carol Shenkenberger on Mon Nov 6 03:18:31 2017
    Carol,

    It was well known I couldnt access the ZCC traffic while at sea but that
    I
    could be netmailed via Dale at need and Bob could divert netmail to Dale
    if it was something critical.

    Hmmmm ... so you are saying that your netmail was monitored by a 3rd party?

    \%/@rd

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  • From Carol Shenkenberger@1:275/100 to Ward Dossche on Wed Nov 8 20:47:36 2017
    Re: Re: Status of nominations
    By: Ward Dossche to Carol Shenkenberger on Mon Nov 06 2017 03:18 am

    It was well known I couldnt access the ZCC traffic while at sea but
    that I
    could be netmailed via Dale at need and Bob could divert netmail to
    Dale if it was something critical.

    Hmmmm ... so you are saying that your netmail was monitored by a 3rd party?

    No, only that it was in transit with a trusted party, same as any other routed message. Anything really private was emailed to my shipboard account (after maybe routing a netmail to ask what that was if they didnt have it)..

    The diversion by Bob was automatic routing if I remembered to tell him I was underway. If I forgot, it sat there pending on his end until I got in port again.

    Most stuff waited for me to get back in port but if a person changed phone numbers and needed an update or something like that, it routed through Dale to me in a BW packet (also does netmail) and sent automated via email to my ship account, then copied to floppy and read on my laptop while underway. 'BeeBopping to the Beat of the Bream' was my signature line when underway.

    There were occasional netmail CC's to Bob to ask the netmail be passed on and that is all that was meant.

    Some of this goes back 17 years now so no real details recalled on any actual netmails other than a few lively ones from Barry (Z3 and predated me in Z6 as a substantial feed site there).

    xxcarol


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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Carol Shenkenberger on Thu Nov 9 07:19:41 2017

    Some of this goes back 17 years now so no real details recalled on any actual
    netmails other than a few lively ones from Barry (Z3 and predated me in
    Z6 as a substantial feed site there).

    I remember it very well.

    It was amazing we could reach you shipboard those days ... perhaps today it is different. Last Saturday I was Fidonetting on a train ... who would have believed that 17 years ago...

    \%/@rd

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  • From Carol Shenkenberger@1:275/100 to Ward Dossche on Sat Nov 11 09:12:56 2017
    Re: Re: Status of nominations
    By: Ward Dossche to Carol Shenkenberger on Thu Nov 09 2017 07:19 am

    Some of this goes back 17 years now so no real details recalled on
    any actual
    netmails other than a few lively ones from Barry (Z3 and predated me
    in Z6 as a substantial feed site there).

    I remember it very well.

    It was amazing we could reach you shipboard those days ... perhaps today it is different. Last Saturday I was Fidonetting on a train ... who
    would
    have believed that 17 years ago...

    Yes, times have changed and today you'd not be amazed to see that. Back then though, it really did confuse folks. ZC's took it in stride but some others got actually miffed that I was using non-standard ways when at sea to handle things, including ZONEDIFFs. I had no way to automate them weekly unless I made no changes at sea and at sea I had no 'file attach capability' so went low-tech and made segment changes at need then had Janis send them up. Strange yes, but it meant it didnt matter if I was at sea or not, changes were not delayed over it. I recall distinctly being at sea when Z6 said yes, standardize the phone if ION to the static (no deviation) 0 set. We had too many close ties to Z3 to even think of not giving them something they could use as a known, undeviated block. Perfect? No. Heck of a lot closer than a hodge podge though.

    Anyways, back to the topic of this place since that sort of thing isnt and never will be a 'standard'. It's more of a one-off bit of our Fido history one wouldn't expect but really happened.

    xxcarol

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  • From Vince Coen@2:250/1 to Carol Shenkenberger on Sat Nov 11 17:26:40 2017
    Hello Carol!

    Saturday November 11 2017 09:12, you wrote to Ward Dossche:

    I assume here you had a reasonably easy time to access the outside world, but still remember communicating with Gordon Eubanks of Digital Research and DRI over issues on CBasic or CPM/MPM.

    He was working for the Navy on Submarines can't remember the type though.

    It was a fairly quick turn round (7 - 14 days) for msgs despite the sub not coming to the surface over often.

    I assume these days he is retired but there again ....


    Vince



    Re: Re: Status of nominations
    By: Ward Dossche to Carol Shenkenberger on Thu Nov 09 2017 07:19 am

    Some of this goes back 17 years now so no real details recalled
    on any actual netmails other than a few lively ones from Barry
    (Z3 and predated me in Z6 as a substantial feed site there).

    I remember it very well.

    It was amazing we could reach you shipboard those days ...
    perhaps today it is different. Last Saturday I was Fidonetting on
    a train ... who
    would
    have believed that 17 years ago...

    Yes, times have changed and today you'd not be amazed to see that.
    Back then though, it really did confuse folks. ZC's took it in stride
    but some others got actually miffed that I was using non-standard ways
    when at sea to handle things, including ZONEDIFFs. I had no way to
    automate them weekly unless I made no changes at sea and at sea I had
    no 'file attach capability' so went low-tech and made segment changes
    at need then had Janis send them up. Strange yes, but it meant it
    didnt matter if I was at sea or not, changes were not delayed over it.
    I recall distinctly being at sea when Z6 said yes, standardize the
    phone if ION to the static (no deviation) 0 set. We had too many
    close ties to Z3 to even think of not giving them something they could
    use as a known, undeviated block. Perfect? No. Heck of a lot closer
    than a hodge podge though.

    Anyways, back to the topic of this place since that sort of thing isnt
    and never will be a 'standard'. It's more of a one-off bit of our
    Fido history one wouldn't expect but really happened.

    xxcarol



    Vince

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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Vince Coen on Sun Nov 12 00:13:12 2017
    Vince,

    Don't take me wrong, but I have a hard time believing that.

    He was working for the Navy on Submarines can't remember the type though.

    It was a fairly quick turn round (7 - 14 days) for msgs despite the sub
    not coming to the surface over often.

    I had submarine people with me at Melita Island and it was always "Neither confirm nor deny".

    \%/@rd

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  • From Carol Shenkenberger@1:275/100 to Vince Coen on Sun Nov 12 11:09:07 2017
    Re: Status of nominations
    By: Vince Coen to Carol Shenkenberger on Sat Nov 11 2017 05:26 pm

    I assume here you had a reasonably easy time to access the outside world, but still remember communicating with Gordon Eubanks of Digital Research and DRI over issues on CBasic or CPM/MPM.

    He was working for the Navy on Submarines can't remember the type though.

    It was a fairly quick turn round (7 - 14 days) for msgs despite the sub not coming to the surface over often.

    Oh yes! He'd have been doing similar to what I did then. I can't tell you the details of how that works with subs but lets say his response factor would have been slower than mine due to connectivity issues.

    This brings to mind a question for the candidates (not sure if i missed any answers or not due to the overflow, but will work it from this point).

    xxcarol
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  • From Carol Shenkenberger@1:275/100 to Ward Dossche on Sun Nov 12 11:17:45 2017
    Re: Re: Status of nominations
    By: Ward Dossche to Vince Coen on Sun Nov 12 2017 12:13 am

    Vince,

    Don't take me wrong, but I have a hard time believing that.

    He was working for the Navy on Submarines can't remember the type
    though.

    It was a fairly quick turn round (7 - 14 days) for msgs despite the
    sub not coming to the surface over often.

    I had submarine people with me at Melita Island and it was always "Neither
    confirm nor deny".

    Grin, yup. The only thing Vince says though is he knows the fellow was stationed on a sub and he got a reasonable reply rate. He doesnt even mention which Navy and would not have known any details.

    Nuff said.

    xxcarol

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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Carol Shenkenberger on Sun Nov 12 18:51:41 2017
    I had submarine people with me at Melita Island and it was always
    "Neither confirm nor deny".

    Grin, yup.

    Allow me a good story.

    At the same camp there was an officer on leave and he said "You're from Belgium? I was stationed there for a while at the military base with the American unit".

    So I told him "So you were one of the guys servicing the US nuclear warheads stored there?"

    Answer "I can neiher corfirm nor deny". So I told him "Well let me then confirm
    that for you" and I pulled-up a map from Google Earth clearly showing the 20 bunkers".

    He was no amused.

    \%/@rd

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  • From Vince Coen@2:250/1 to Carol Shenkenberger on Sun Nov 12 20:28:45 2017
    Hello Carol!

    Sunday November 12 2017 11:09, you wrote to me:

    Oh yes! He'd have been doing similar to what I did then. I can't
    tell you the details of how that works with subs but lets say his
    response factor would have been slower than mine due to connectivity
    issues.

    S ok, I did a reasonable amount of work for the UK MOD and the US DOD so have fairly good idea. Still it is nice of the CO to allow private comms (one way or another) to get through bearing in mind laptops was not available at that time :)



    Vince

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  • From Rj Clay@1:261/38 to Wilfred Van Velzen on Mon Nov 13 12:38:12 2017
    Hi Rj,
    On 2017-11-05 15:50:32, you wrote to me:
    Because I had to completely reinstall (from old backups) my fidonet
    nodes on completely new systems but while the hub operations are
    mostly working again on my 1:120/544 node, many other things are not.
    (My 1:120/546 node is reinstalled again on another system but not yet
    fully operational, & my 1:120/545 node was back up briefly but its
    host systemm had a hardware failure.) And it's not helped not being
    able to work on it very often, nor that it's not the only thing I need
    to work on...
    If you don't even have the time to fix your own system(s),

    That it might be still in progress does not mean that it won't get fixed.


    what time can you spend on the FTSC?

    As much as I can, like anyone else.


    So why are you even running as candidate?

    Because I was nominated and have always (since I joined back in the mid 90's) been interested in the documention that's behind what we do in Fidonet.




    Jame

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  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Rj Clay on Mon Nov 13 21:31:59 2017
    Hi Rj,

    On 2017-11-13 12:38:12, you wrote to me:

    what time can you spend on the FTSC?

    As much as I can, like anyone else.

    That's a political answer. But that would come done to about 0, in your case, if we extrapolate from the past...?

    So why are you even running as candidate?

    Because I was nominated and have always (since I joined back in the
    mid 90's) been interested in the documention that's behind what we do
    in Fidonet.

    A lot of people are interested in the documentation (including me), that don't run as candidate. You must have some intention to do something with them as an FTSC member. The voters like to know what. And what did you do in your past term for the FTSC?

    Bye, Wilfred.

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  • From Carol Shenkenberger@1:275/100 to Ward Dossche on Mon Nov 13 16:35:17 2017
    Re: Re: Status of nominations
    By: Ward Dossche to Carol Shenkenberger on Sun Nov 12 2017 06:51 pm

    Allow me a good story.

    LOL!

    xxcarol
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  • From Rj Clay@1:120/544 to Wilfred van Velzen on Sun Nov 19 14:43:31 2017
    Wilfred,

    Wilfred van Velzen wrote to Rj Clay:


    I'm wondering why you wrote this on someone elses bbs?

    I already answered that.


    Can't you post from your own system?

    If you mean this one, I can now.


    How do we even know this is written by RJ Clay in person?

    It was posted by me.



    RJ


    Greetings, Rj Clay
    email: admftn@ftn.rocasa.net

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  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Rj Clay on Sun Nov 19 21:01:13 2017
    Hi Rj,

    On 2017-11-19 14:43:31, you wrote to me:

    I'm wondering why you wrote this on someone elses bbs?

    I already answered that.

    Yes, this is your second reply to my message...

    Bye, Wilfred.

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