Can you remind me how I can inject this kludge to posts that HPT is creating when I post things like HUB stats to FSX_STA echo? From memory I need a
script that injects this?

With thanks, Paul

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Re: TZUTC Kludge
By: Avon to Deon on Wed Apr 21 2021 07:50 pm

Howdy,

Can you remind me how I can inject this kludge to posts that HPT is creating when I post things like HUB stats to FSX_STA echo? From
memory I need a
script that injects this?

Yup, easy peasy...

Create a sciypt with:

===
#!/bin/bash

(echo -e \\x01CHRS: CP437 2 && echo -e \\x01TZUTC: 1000 && cat)
===

And make it executable (chmod +x name_of_script.sh)

I guess you would have TZUTC: 1200

Then you pipe through the script before calling txt2pkt.

EG: For the Hub 3 queue stats I use

/usr/local/tools/show-queue|usr/local/tools/cp437-tz.sh|txt2pkt ...

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deon wrote (2021-04-21):

Can you remind me how I can inject this kludge to posts that HPT is
creating when I post things like HUB stats to FSX_STA echo? From
memory I need a script that injects this?

Yup, easy peasy...

Create a sciypt with:

If the machine is a server only, I would set it to a timezone that doesn't have DST, like UTC or Etc/GMT-12. Or create a script that automatically insert the correct timezone for TZUTC.

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On 21 Apr 2021 at 09:14p, deon pondered and said...

Create a sciypt with:
#!/bin/bash

(echo -e \\x01CHRS: CP437 2 && echo -e \\x01TZUTC: 1000 && cat)
===
Then you pipe through the script before calling txt2pkt. /usr/local/tools/show-queue|usr/local/tools/cp437-tz.sh|txt2pkt ...

Thanks for the info. I'll need to read up on txt2pkt and how to use this when posting with hpt. I'll have a play later today/tomorrow :)

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On 21 Apr 2021 at 09:14p, deon pondered and said...

Create a sciypt with:

all done

And make it executable (chmod +x name_of_script.sh)

Yep done that too.

I guess you would have TZUTC: 1200

yep changed

Then you pipe through the script before calling txt2pkt.

EG: For the Hub 3 queue stats I use

/usr/local/tools/show-queue|usr/local/tools/cp437-tz.sh|txt2pkt ...

This bit I am lost. I see I have a copy of txt2pkt but have not used it nor
am I unsure how I target the packet I am trying add this kludge to. So if I have a text file containing content I want to post called info.txt then I am going to need to call the kludge script, somehow insert the extra kludge at
the top of that info.txt file then use txt2pkt to post to the echomail area instead of hpt post?

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Re: Re: TZUTC Kludge
By: Avon to deon on Sat Apr 24 2021 10:45 am

This bit I am lost. I see I have a copy of txt2pkt but have not used it nor am I unsure how I target the packet I am trying add this kludge to. So if I have a text file containing content I want to post called info.txt then I am going to need to call the kludge script, somehow insert the extra kludge at the top of that info.txt file then use txt2pkt to post to the echomail area instead of hpt post?

This is a bit of a bummer. HPT post should add the TZUTC kludge when it posts messages using the local timezone.

I notice this too with new file announcements, ping responses and the like. I read in the FIDOSOFT.HUSKY area recently that it is on the todo list to get that fixed so I hope they will get to that and then this kind of stuff won't be needed.

I'm about to post in there about another issue so I'll bring it up.

Ttyl :-),
Al

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Re: Re: TZUTC Kludge
By: Avon to deon on Sat Apr 24 2021 10:45 am

Then you pipe through the script before calling txt2pkt.
EG: For the Hub 3 queue stats I use
/usr/local/tools/show-queue|usr/local/tools/cp437-tz.sh|txt2pkt ...

This bit I am lost. I see I have a copy of txt2pkt but have not used it nor
am I unsure how I target the packet I am trying add this kludge to. So if I have a text file containing content I want to post called
info.txt then I am going to need to call the kludge script, somehow insert the extra kludge at
the top of that info.txt file then use txt2pkt to post to the echomail area instead of hpt post?

OK, you dont have to use txt2pkt, if you are getting message into msg bases another way.

My utilitiy takes a stream of data and prepends the required kludges.

So, if you have your stuff in info.txt, then there are many ways to skin this cat:

* Whatever creates info.txt - if is created to stdout, that you are redirecting to "info.txt", you could call cp437-tz.sh before the redirection.

eg: my_script_that_creates_info | cp437-tz.sh > info.txt

* If your script that creates info.txt doesnt send it to stdout, but to a filename, then after info.txt is created, you can call cp437-tz.

eg: cat info.txt | cp437-tz > info_with_kludges.txt

* Or in my case, I stream everything into txt2pkt, so no "file" is created.

eg: my_script | cp437-tz | txt2pkt

txt2pkt just creates a packet with "from", "to", "origin", etc and can create that packet from stdin, or using data in an existing file (eg: your info.txt).

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On 24 Apr 2021 at 09:35a, deon pondered and said...

OK, you dont have to use txt2pkt, if you are getting message into msg bases another way.

Just hpt post at present.

* If your script that creates info.txt doesnt send it to stdout, but to
a filename, then after info.txt is created, you can call cp437-tz.

eg: cat info.txt | cp437-tz > info_with_kludges.txt

Gotcha this is what I'll try now.

* Or in my case, I stream everything into txt2pkt, so no "file" is created.

eg: my_script | cp437-tz | txt2pkt
txt2pkt just creates a packet with "from", "to", "origin", etc and can create that packet from stdin, or using data in an existing file (eg:
your info.txt).

and do you state the packet is from 3/100 and to 3/100?

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On 23 Apr 2021, Al said the following...

This is a bit of a bummer. HPT post should add the TZUTC kludge when it posts messages using the local timezone.

i don't know if this is related, but messages on my machine don't show local dates.. at least the ones from you are post-dated (shown on the date posted as you perceive it.. duno how to word that lol)

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Re: Re: TZUTC Kludge
By: fusion to Al on Sat Apr 24 2021 10:04 pm

i don't know if this is related, but messages on my machine don't show local dates.. at least the ones from you are post-dated (shown on the date posted as you perceive it.. duno how to word that lol)

Yes, that's a conundrum. Not all message readers tell you about the timezone and since messages posted here use the local timezone it may look off to some.

Synchronet uses the timezone when displaying messages. It tells me this message of yours I am replying to was written three minutes ago.. :)

Ttyl :-),
Al

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Re: Re: TZUTC Kludge
By: Avon to deon on Sun Apr 25 2021 01:26 pm

* Or in my case, I stream everything into txt2pkt, so no "file" is created.
eg: my_script | cp437-tz | txt2pkt
txt2pkt just creates a packet with "from", "to", "origin", etc and can create that packet from stdin, or using data in an
existing file (eg:
your info.txt).

and do you state the packet is from 3/100 and to 3/100?

Yup.

This is my full Hub 3 Queue cronjob:

/usr/local/tools/show-queue 21|/usr/local/tools/cp437-tz.sh | txt2pkt -q -af "21:3/100" -at "21:3/100" -nf "Hub 3 Queue" -nt "All" -e FSX_STA -s "Status - Hub 3 Queue" -o "When do I get a holiday?" -d /fido/mailer/in.loc -

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On 25 Apr 2021 at 02:12p, deon pondered and said...

and do you state the packet is from 3/100 and to 3/100?

Yup.

This is my full Hub 3 Queue cronjob:

OK cool thanks. I have not implemented txt2pkt as yet but have set up the piping of my source file through the TZ script and I hope that the next stats announcements as well as upcoming nodelist and infopak hatch announcements
will start to carry the correct kludge :)

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