... How do I set my laser printer to stun?
I think I prefer just to have a single, proper open network with free speech. Elon has done well with X in this regard.
No... free speech at all costs is not healthy, and X isn't even that.
It's free speech if Elon agrees with you (mostly), but X is now really quite well known as being a toxic shithole.
Elon is a KNOWN NAZI
Piss on Elon! He can go back to sucking on Trumps gerkin.
NuSkooler wrote to Geri Atricks <=-
Twas Wednesday, April 8th when Geri Atricks said...
Elon is a KNOWN NAZI
Facts.
Piss on Elon! He can go back to sucking on Trumps gerkin.
+1.
I thought politics weren't supposed to be in play around here.
Exodus wrote to Gamgee <=-
I thought politics weren't supposed to be in play around here.
You know how it goes. Do as the democrap's say, not as they do.
What actual facts do you have on that? Oh! I bet you're referring to that over-hyped "hand gesture" he made once!
NuSkooler wrote to Gamgee <=-
What actual facts do you have on that? Oh! I bet you're referring to that over-hyped "hand gesture" he made once!
Multiple "hand gestures". His overwhelming support for AfD. His support for the idea of the "replacement theory". His constant "Jew hating"
posts. The fact that he grew up in a Nazi family... lol
get real.
Multiple "hand gestures". His overwhelming support for AfD. Hisfor the idea of the "replacement theory". His constant "Jew hating"
support
posts. The fact that he grew up in a Nazi family... lol
LOL is right... Better loosen up that tin-foil beanie a little, it's cutting off the blood flow to your brain.
NuSkooler wrote to Gamgee <=-
LOL is right... Better loosen up that tin-foil beanie a little, it's cutting off the blood flow to your brain.
So you're claim is these are not real things? I can list many more if you'd like, this is fun! His recent haircut Hitler cosplay, matching Bovino's SS cosplay, guess he wanted in. His reinstate of the various
VERY OPEN racist/nazis to X. X is now a haven for fully bonified Nazis.
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|08 ��� |03ENiGMA 1/2 WHQ |08| |03Phenom |08| |0367 |08| |03iMPURE |08|
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What is all this garbage? If it's specific to a certain BBS flavor,
maybe it doesn't belong in an echomail message?
LOL is right... Better loosen up that tin-foil beanie a little, it's cutting off the blood flow to your brain.
So you're claim is these are not real things? I can list many more if you'd like, this is fun! His recent haircut Hitler cosplay, matching Bovino's SS cosplay, guess he wanted in. His reinstate of the various VERY OPEN racist/nazis to X. X is now a haven for fully bonified Nazi
I don't know if they're real or not. Neither do you, for absolute certainty. What I do know is that many things of this type are hyper-reported in the media, and made out to be more than what they really are, for purely political reasons. I'm gonna leave it at that.
boraxman wrote to Gamgee <=-
LOL is right... Better loosen up that tin-foil beanie a little, it's cutting off the blood flow to your brain.
So you're claim is these are not real things? I can list many more if you'd like, this is fun! His recent haircut Hitler cosplay, matching Bovino's SS cosplay, guess he wanted in. His reinstate of the various VERY OPEN racist/nazis to X. X is now a haven for fully bonified Nazi
I don't know if they're real or not. Neither do you, for absolute certainty. What I do know is that many things of this type are hyper-reported in the media, and made out to be more than what they
really are, for purely political reasons. I'm gonna leave it at that.
Just judge for yourself. I judge Elon by his words and actions, and
I'll interpret them myself. If someone wants to say this or that,
thats up to them, and usually it just reveals more about their stance
than it does Elons.
Mike Powell wrote to Gamgee <=-fear|07
|08 n.'n.'n.' |12NuSkooler |06// |12Xibalba |08- |07"|06The place of
"|08
|08 n.'n.'n.' |03xibalba|08.|03vip |08(|0344510|08/|03telnet|08, |0344511|08/|03ssh|08
|08 n.'n.'n.' |03ENiGMA 1/2 WHQ |08| |03Phenom |08| |0367 |08| |03iMPURE
|03ACiDi
What is all this garbage? If it's specific to a certain BBS flavor,
maybe it doesn't belong in an echomail message?
I think they are pipe codes that some BBS softwares translate to ANSI.
I thought that Synchronet did but it has been a while since I have read
a message online so I am not sure.
SLMR does not translate them. :)
I think they are pipe codes that some BBS softwares translate to ANSI. I thought that Synchronet did but it has been a while since I have read a message online so I am not sure.
|08 ��� |03ENiGMA 1/2 WHQ |08| |03Phenom |08| |0367 |08|
|03iMPURE |08| |03ACiDi
What is all this garbage? If it's specific to a certain BBS
flavor, maybe it doesn't belong in an echomail message?
I think they are pipe codes that some BBS softwares translate to ANSI.
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I don't know if they're real or not. Neither do you, for absolute certainty. What I do know is that many things of this type are hyper-reported in the media, and made out to be more than what they really are, for purely political reasons.
Yep, I guess that's what those are, but I don't think they should be included in echomail where many different softwares don't recognize them. On my SBBS system they are not displayed as ANSI/color, just the gibberish shown above.
They are, and are useless junk to those that don't run that specific bbs software.
Gamgee wrote to Exodus <=-
Exodus wrote to Gamgee <=-
I thought politics weren't supposed to be in play around here.
You know how it goes. Do as the democrap's say, not as they do.
Yup. "Rules for thee, but not for Me..." ;-)
Mike Powell wrote to Gamgee <=-
I think they are pipe codes that some BBS softwares translate to ANSI.
I thought that Synchronet did but it has been a while since I have read
a message online so I am not sure.
SLMR does not translate them. :)
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NuSkooler wrote to Gamgee <=-
Yep, I guess that's what those are, but I don't think they should be included in echomail where many different softwares don't recognize
them. On my SBBS system they are not displayed as ANSI/color, just the gibberish shown above.
We've (BSS users) been doing this (sigs with pipe codes) since the
early 90's at least.
Funny, I've been mostly MIA for about 6-12 months here. I come back, and we have everyone crying about stuff that's been used since '90 or so. Pipe codes have been around since at least Renegade. We've all been using them forever... did a bunch of grumps from FidoNet just show up? Is that what happened?
What I'm saying is that those are fine on a local message base, but on an echomail network... How many people will see those as you meant them to be seen? Nowadays, *VERY* few people use BBS software that displays that junk properly. What's the point of doing it?
Not everyone is complaining. There are always a few of course but not everyone.
NuSkooler wrote to Gamgee <=-
On Sunday, April 12th Gamgee was heard saying...
What I'm saying is that those are fine on a local message base, but on
an echomail network... How many people will see those as you meant them to be seen? Nowadays, *VERY* few people use BBS software that displays that junk properly. What's the point of doing it?
You're on a BBS network, for BBS users, and assuming people aren't
using BBSes to view the things?
I just ran some numbers showing what and from what software:| Software | Usr | Msg | Sig Style | CHRS |
Scanned 15,000 msgs from 437 FTN users (14,379 FTN posts)
+----------------+-----+------+---------------------+---------+
+----------------+-----+------+---------------------+---------+| Mystic BBS | 217 | 7015 | 160pln 33pip 24ansi | none |
+----------------+-----+------+---------------------+---------+
CHRS across all users:
(none) 302 69.1% \
ASCII 1 52 11.9% |-- 92.0% effectively CP437
CP437 2 48 11.0% |
IBMPC 2 3 0.7% /
UTF-8 4 19 4.3%
LATIN-1 9 2.1%
CP850 2 3 0.7%
UTF-8 2 1 0.2%
...so I changed my default to CP437 vs UTF-8 since readers are borking
and to support older software. But what's interesting there is the
other bits of data: the majority of messages are comming from BBSes,
and actively maintained BBSes at that.
|08 = |12NuSkooler |06// |12Xibalba |08- |07"|06The place of fear|07"||0344511|08/|03ssh|08)
|08 = |03xibalba|08.|03vip |08(|0344510|08/|03telnet|08,
|08 = |03ENiGMA 1/2 WHQ |08| |03Phenom |08| |0367 |08| |03iMPURE |08|||03ACiDic
NuSkooler wrote to boraxman <=-
On Monday, April 13th boraxman said...
I don't know if they're real or not. Neither do you, for absolute certainty. What I do know is that many things of this type are hyper-reported in the media, and made out to be more than what they
really are, for purely political reasons.
What a bunch of nonse. Yes I do. You can go read every bit of what I stated from Elon himself. Step into reality people. This type of "I
don't know if it's real" nonsense is some sort of new "I dont' want to
be wrong" copout crap.
It's real. You could spend a literal 5 minutes validating such things.
You could watch Elon's speeches at AfD. You could read HIS own words,
his interviews, etc. Don't bother with the media, go to the source.
Ummmm, no. For clarity, I'm using an offline reader (Multimail) to read the BBS messages. But that's actually irrelevant... see below.
I'm not sure we're even talking about the same thing.
Mystic BBS | 217 | 7015 | 160pln 33pip 24ansi | none | | Synchronet | 86 | 3669 | 68pln 10pip 8ansi | mix | | Other | 52 | 1442 | 50pln 2pip | mix | |
What matters to me, is what risk does this person pose? If the risk is that they contravene someone elses values, then so what?
NuSkooler wrote to boraxman <=-
What a bunch of nonse. Yes I do. You can go read every bit of what I stated from Elon himself. Step into reality people. This type of "I
don't know if it's real" nonsense is some sort of new "I dont' want to
be wrong" copout crap.
NuSkooler wrote to Gamgee <=-
...so I changed my default to CP437 vs UTF-8 since readers are borking
and to support older software. But what's interesting there is the
other bits of data: the majority of messages are comming from BBSes,
and actively maintained BBSes at that.
--|08 ■ |12NuSkooler |06// |12Xibalba |08- |07"|06The place of fear|07"
Even before his DOGE days, Elon just seemed like the type who was arrogant enough to see some science/science fiction thing that someone did and, instead of learning the lesson would decide he could do it
A lof of "tech bros" give me that vibe so I don't trust them.
FWIW, it looks different now. The funny characters at the beginning of each line are gone and replaced with the pipes.
NuSkooler wrote to Gamgee <=-
Mystic BBS | 217 | 7015 | 160pln 33pip 24ansi | none | | Synchronet | 86 | 3669 | 68pln 10pip 8ansi | mix | | Other | 52 | 1442 | 50pln 2pip | mix | |
...so on. So from Mystic, 33 unique pipe signatures, 24 unique (as in users) ANSI signatures; 10 pipe, 8 ANSI from Sync, etc.
My readers shows them just fine.
Maybe you, (or anyone) can tell me why they don't show properly in
what is probably the most widely used BBS software today...
(Synchronet). Is it me, or is it "proprietary" color codes used by
a select few BBS softwares?
Could also see if there is a way to actually get support added to MultiMail for it? The source is available. SlyMail (a new offline reader by Nightfox) may already support this (though from what I remember you pretty much swear by MM and don't explore anything else these days). If it doesn't, he may be willing to add it as it already supports UTF-8 as well as ANSI display (and even both!).
Maybe you, (or anyone) can tell me why they don't show properly in what
is probably the most widely used BBS software today... (Synchronet). Is
it me, or is it "proprietary" color codes used by a select few BBS softwares?
Maybe you, (or anyone) can tell me why they don't show properly in what is probably the most widely used BBS software today... (Synchronet). Is it me, or is it "proprietary" color codes used by a select few BBS softwares?
Yes, I've added support to SlyMail to parse color codes for various BBS packages, so those should look okay in SlyMail.
NuSkooler wrote to Gamgee <=-
Maybe you, (or anyone) can tell me why they don't show properly in what
is probably the most widely used BBS software today... (Synchronet). Is it me, or is it "proprietary" color codes used by a select few BBS softwares?
I'm glad you asked!
Pipe codes have been used since Renegade, at least, so around '93? Supported by at least Mystic, Synchronet (turn them on; https://wiki.synchro.net/custom:colors), Enthrall, WWIV, Telegard, Oblivion/2, iNiQUiTY, ...
Synchronet's own color code system, as you can see, is "Ctrl-A" codes,
but can also support Celerity and PCBoard style codes.
deon wrote to Gamgee <=-
Maybe you, (or anyone) can tell me why they don't show properly in what
is probably the most widely used BBS software today... (Synchronet). Is
it me, or is it "proprietary" color codes used by a select few BBS softwares?
FWIW, I use Synchronet and they look fine to me.
Accession wrote to Gamgee <=-Ac > Extra Attribute Codes... > Renegade Pipe Codes = Yes). However,
Maybe you, (or anyone) can tell me why they don't show properly in
what is probably the most widely used BBS software today...
(Synchronet). Is it me, or is it "proprietary" color codes used by
a select few BBS softwares?
For what it's worth, you can "enable" them in Synchronet (SCFG > System
they still won
't display properly in MultiMail because MultiMail doesn't support
that. Neither does any other "offline" readers, or NNTP clients, or
sysop readers like Golded+, MsgEd, TimEd, etc.
You have to actually be logged into a BBS software that supports them
to actually see the colors those codes are attempting to produce, and yes.. quite a few BBS softwares do support them, except specific BBS software that have their own way of coloring text (ie: PCBoard,
Wildcat, WWIV, Celerity, and maybe some others, but Synchronet itself supports any of the ones I just listed).
I don't know if there is a way to support them on the BBS itself, and
then strip them when a QWK packet is made? If not, maybe a feature
request for an option to do so just for the purpose of offline readers?
Could also see if there is a way to actually get support added to MultiMail for it? The source is available. SlyMail (a new offline
reader by Nightfox) may already support this (though from what I
remember you pretty much swear by MM and don't explore anything else
these days). If it doesn't, he may be willing to add it as it already supports UTF-8 as well as ANSI display (and even both!).
Yes, it turns out that I did NOT have those additional color codes turned on, but I went in and turned them on for the FSXNet message areas... and they still don't display when reading messages on the BBS.
Interesting. They do not show for me while reading messages on the BBS.
Are you using Nightfox's "DDMsgReader" module on the SBBS system? I'm wondering if that may be the reason. Thanks.
FWIW, I use Synchronet and they look fine to me.
Interesting. They do not show for me while reading messages on the BBS.
Are you using Nightfox's "DDMsgReader" module on the SBBS system? I'm wondering if that may be the reason. Thanks.
NuSkooler wrote to boraxman <=-
On Tuesday, April 14th boraxman said...
What matters to me, is what risk does this person pose? If the risk is that they contravene someone elses values, then so what?
One of the richest humans on the planet, which a reach into the daily lives of millions and millions, whom shapes politics around the globe,
and you believe they "post no risk"?
NuSkooler wrote to Mike Powell <=-
Twas Monday, April 13th when Mike Powell said...
Even before his DOGE days, Elon just seemed like the type who was
arrogant enough to see some science/science fiction thing that someone
did and, instead of learning the lesson would decide he could do it
A lof of "tech bros" give me that vibe so I don't trust them.
100% - Read up on Peter Thiel and Curtis Yarvin -- and I mean directly, they write books, they talk, they post. These are some of the most influencial perosns in tech right now, mostly behind the scenes. The entire US cabinet is in bed with Thiel and co. All of the AI tech bros follow their mantra, which believe me, is not good for anyone but them.
I do realize they won't show when reading in an OLR like MultiMail, but wondering why they don't show in the actual BBS reading function. Unless... I do have Nightfox's "DDMsgReader" module enabled, perhaps that's the reason. Will keep banging on it, thanks.
Are you using Nightfox's "DDMsgReader" module on the SBBS system? I'm
wondering if that may be the reason. Thanks.
Not anymore.
I had a few things that werent quite right with it, and instead of debugging it, I reverted back to the original way.
NuSkooler wrote to Mike Powell <=-
100% - Read up on Peter Thiel and Curtis Yarvin -- and I mean directly, they write books, they talk, they post. These are some of the most influencial perosns in tech right now, mostly behind the scenes. The entire US cabinet is in bed with Thiel and co. All of the AI tech bros follow their mantra, which believe me, is not good for anyone but them.
Interesting. They do not show for me while reading messages on the BBS.
Are you using Nightfox's "DDMsgReader" module on the SBBS system? I'm wondering if that may be the reason. Thanks.
deon wrote to Gamgee <=-
FWIW, I use Synchronet and they look fine to me.
Interesting. They do not show for me while reading messages on the BBS.
Are you using Nightfox's "DDMsgReader" module on the SBBS system? I'm wondering if that may be the reason. Thanks.
I just tried with it and its seems to render fine too...
Nightfox wrote to Gamgee <=-
I do realize they won't show when reading in an OLR like MultiMail, but wondering why they don't show in the actual BBS reading function. Unless... I do have Nightfox's "DDMsgReader" module enabled, perhaps that's the reason. Will keep banging on it, thanks.
DDMsgReader does support those, and it should enable the color codes according to the settings in SCFG. I've tested those and I've seen it working, as far as I can tell.
Nightfox wrote to Gamgee <=-
Interesting. They do not show for me while reading messages on the BBS.
Are you using Nightfox's "DDMsgReader" module on the SBBS system? I'm wondering if that may be the reason. Thanks.
As a quick test, I posted a message on my BBS with Renegade color
codes, and I see the colors correctly when reading with DDMsgReader:
http://digitaldistortionbbs.com/screenshots/renegade_codes.png
There are many people who do, and who have, had that position and it hasn't been a disaster. There will always be people who are rich.
I fully understand why some people hate Musk, or thing he is misguided. Certaintly some ideas of his, such as the hyperloop, or the use of tunnels for cars weren't going to work out, but people do need to
I haven't heard much of Thiel, but I have heard of Curtis, and listened to an interview or two. His focus seems more political, commentary on the state of Western Civ than on technology.
I had a few things that werent quite right with it, and instead of debugging it, I reverted back to the original way.
You can always let me know if you see anything that doesn't behave as expected, and then I can try to fix it..
Yes, I realize they won't work in MultiMail, and I did NOT have the
extra codes enabled in SCFG, but I do now, and still not displaying
while reading on the BBS.
I'm wondering if using Nightfox's "DDMsgReader" module may be the
cause of them not displaying properly. Gonna see if I can remember
how to NOT use that for a minute...
I have asked the MM author a couple of things over the years, and
gotten absolute silence back as a response. Probably not likely to
get anything there.
Thanks for the reply, I'm gonna keep banging on it for a bit, until
I lose interest and wander off to something else... ;-)
* My mode of operandi when logging in and seeing the pink banners that there is mail to me, is to read it first. IE: "Scan msgs to me". Then I go back and read all new mail.
I started to notice that when I went to read all mail, it was missing messages - and I assume that my last read pointer was being set because of the read all to me, and thus anything new before the first message to me was being skipped.
* When reading all new messages to me, if I had more than 1 (eg: 3), and I replied to one of them, when I finished reading the 3rd, I then noticed I had more than 3 to read - however the additional ones were duplicates of the 1st 3.
* When reading messages and going to the next group. My laset read message number was being set for the next group, not going to the last read message in the group. (I alerted to you of this issue already).
IE: If I was reading message #5 in sub A, and then went to sub B where the last message I read was #10, it would start me of at message #5, so I was reading old messages again.
I'm wondering if using Nightfox's "DDMsgReader" module may be the cause of
them not displaying properly. Gonna see if I can remember how to NOT use
that for a minute...
If there's no option in DDMR's configuration, then it is purely based on the SCFG settings.
Accession wrote to Gamgee <=-
Yes, I realize they won't work in MultiMail, and I did NOT have the
extra codes enabled in SCFG, but I do now, and still not displaying
while reading on the BBS.
Did you restart the server?
I'm wondering if using Nightfox's "DDMsgReader" module may be the
cause of them not displaying properly. Gonna see if I can remember
how to NOT use that for a minute...
If there's no option in DDMR's configuration, then it is purely based
on the SCFG settings.
I have asked the MM author a couple of things over the years, and
gotten absolute silence back as a response. Probably not likely to
get anything there.
Bummer. Then again, the source is there if anyone else were up to the task. ;)
Thanks for the reply, I'm gonna keep banging on it for a bit, until
I lose interest and wander off to something else... ;-)
LOL. I do that far too often these days!
NuSkooler wrote to boraxman <=-
I haven't heard much of Thiel, but I have heard of Curtis, and listened
to an interview or two. His focus seems more political, commentary on
the state of Western Civ than on technology.
You should do some more listening & reading. Thiel owns Plantir, which
is spying on you *right now*. He's the "other guy" that came from
Paypal along with Musk. Both are from very well known S. African slaveholder families.
Yarvin is incredibly influencial to Thiel, JD Vance (He's the one that propped him up and made him a thing -- his "pet project" (his words)). He's "behind the scenes" because he's one of the biggest influencers in what is happening right now, directly with Thiel, Trump Admin in
general, some other tech bros like Sam Altman, etc. This is a crew that
is actively and very purposfully breaking down states so they can be grabbed and managed as "Network Cities".
All sounds like a grand conspiracy, but like you said, they do in fact talk in the open. They just don't "advertise".
This is a test with Renegade color codes. This should appear in green.^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
This is a test with Renegade color codes. This should appear in green.^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Ha!, I was going to make a joke this was BLACK ON BLACK ... as it showed nothing until I quoted it. That's weird.
Re: Re: Social Media (X)
By: Gamgee to Nightfox on Tue Apr 14 2026 10:38 am
|00This is a test with Renegade color codes. |02This should appear in green. |03This should appear in cyan. |04This should appear red. |09High blue |10High green |11High cyan |12High red
|04|23Nightfox
After I went back and read my test message, I saw the same thing; I realize put a black color code at the beginning.. I meant to use the "normal" attribute code.
Piss on Elon! He can go back to sucking on Trumps gerkin.
---
boraxman around Wednesday, April 15th...
There are many people who do, and who have, had that position and it hasn't been a disaster. There will always be people who are rich.
Who? Example? There is a huge difference between "rich" and
Trillionaire. One shouldn't exist, unless the system is completely
broken. Which it is.
I can name various persons in this category, not a single one of them would be "not of major concern".
I mean, without Musk, we'd not be on a good path for EVs -- but they
were not his invention, he just bought the company. But Trump squashed that. What do you know, another billionaire con man. Hyperloop just
sucked up funding and disapeared (also, that was the tunnel thing).
Elon isn't an inventor. He's a rich boy that comes from a rich, bloody hands family.
You should do some more listening & reading. Thiel owns Plantir, which is spying on you *right now*. He's the "other guy" that came from Paypal along with Musk. Both are from very well known S. African slaveholder families.
Yarvin is incredibly influencial to Thiel, JD Vance (He's the one that propped him up and made him a thing -- his "pet project" (his words)). He's "behind the scenes" because he's one of the biggest influencers in what is happening right now, directly with Thiel, Trump Admin in
general, some other tech bros like Sam Altman, etc. This is a crew that
is actively and very purposfully breaking down states so they can be grabbed and managed as "Network Cities".
All sounds like a grand conspiracy, but like you said, they do in fact talk in the open. They just don't "advertise".
So........ these guys are like Soros, Bloomberg, Hoffman, etc..., only financing the other side? It's OK when they do it?
I don't WANT it, Id like to avoid it, but freedom and modern society are sadly no longer compatible. This isn't the 1990s anymore. Australia is going the same way, and some politicians have been blunt and said that we need to crack down on freedom for social cohesion.
Piss on Elon! He can go back to sucking on Trumps gerkin.So much for the no-politics and no controversies rule.
I don't WANT it, Id like to avoid it, but freedom and modern society sadly no longer compatible. This isn't the 1990s anymore. Australia going the same way, and some politicians have been blunt and said tha need to crack down on freedom for social cohesion.
...so fascism, by definition.
I'm not suggesting we SHOULD do this, I'm saying those in power are going to implement this as a social necessity. I'm predicting what they will do, and why they will do it.
Authoritarianism more like it. Most empires need to be authoritarian to keep social order.
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