Acronis True Image is taking 20+ hours to back up 2.5TB. This is ridiculous. What can I use that would be as effective, but actually use the 1Gbps the
drive is capable of instead of about 50mbps...

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Hello Shurato!

18 Sep 24 18:19, you wrote to all:

Acronis True Image is taking 20+ hours to back up 2.5TB. This is ridiculous. What can I use that would be as effective, but actually
use the 1Gbps the drive is capable of instead of about 50mbps...

Your using the wrong type of software. There is no need to always backup the whole drive.


Give veeam backup "Agent for Windows" a try. (Free for home use). https://www.veeam.com/products/free/microsoft-windows.html?ad=downloads

It will of course do a initial full lbackup, then incremental for the remaning untill the roll over date
and then depending on the settings a full backup.

It will backup to local hd, usb drive, network. Plus tell the kids to get off the lawn.*























































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Vorlon


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Hello Shurato!

Acronis True Image is taking 20+ hours to back up 2.5TB. This is ridiculous. What can I use that would be as effective, but actually use
the 1Gbps the drive is capable of instead of about 50mbps...

Is that over USB 2.0? If so, perhaps that speed is expected.

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Vorlon wrote to Shurato <=-

Give veeam backup "Agent for Windows" a try. (Free for home use). https://www.veeam.com/products/free/microsoft-windows.html?ad=downloads

It will of course do a initial full lbackup, then incremental for the remaning untill the roll over date and then depending on the settings a full backup.

Interesting, I'm using Windows backup for Windows 7 (hidden on Windows
11, but still there) and expect it to go away at some point. I like
Veeam, use their software on VMWare extensively.

* Get off the lawn feature might not actually be real. #-)

Vorlon

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poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Vorlon <=-

Vorlon wrote to Shurato <=-

Give veeam backup "Agent for Windows" a try. (Free for home use). https://www.veeam.com/products/free/microsoft-windows.html?ad=downloads

It will of course do a initial full lbackup, then incremental for the remaning untill the roll over date and then depending on the settings a full backup.

Interesting, I'm using Windows backup for Windows 7 (hidden on Windows
11, but still there) and expect it to go away at some point. I like
Veeam, use their software on VMWare extensively.

Could you give some details on where that Win7 backup function can be
found in Win11? I'd like to know for use on my wife's Windows machine. Thanks.

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* In a message originally to Shurato, Vorlon said:

Hello Shurato!

18 Sep 24 18:19, you wrote to all:

Acronis True Image is taking 20+ hours to back up 2.5TB. This is ridiculous. What can I use that would be as effective, but actually
use the 1Gbps the drive is capable of instead of about 50mbps...

Your using the wrong type of software. There is no need to always backup
the whole drive.

I just replaced the drive, I need to backup all of my stuff. Normally it
does incremental backups.

Give veeam backup "Agent for Windows" a try. (Free for home use). https://www.veeam.com/products/free/microsoft-windows.html?ad=downloads

Is it fast? I'll look at it.

It will of course do a initial full lbackup, then incremental for the remaning untill the roll over date and then depending on the settings
a full backup.

It will backup to local hd, usb drive, network. Plus tell the kids to get off the lawn.*

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* In a message originally to Shurato, Ogg said:

Hello Shurato!

Acronis True Image is taking 20+ hours to back up 2.5TB. This is ridiculous. What can I use that would be as effective, but actually

use

the 1Gbps the drive is capable of instead of about 50mbps...

Is that over USB 2.0? If so, perhaps that speed is expected.

3.1Gen2 I believe. Not 2.0. The drive does 100MBps regularly when dragging files over.

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On 19 Sep 2024, Vorlon said the following...

Your using the wrong type of software. There is no need to always backup the whole drive.

Give veeam backup "Agent for Windows" a try. (Free for home use). https://www.veeam.com/products/free/microsoft-windows.html?ad=downloads

It will of course do a initial full lbackup, then incremental for the remaning untill the roll over date
and then depending on the settings a full backup.

It will backup to local hd, usb drive, network. Plus tell the kids to
get off the lawn.*

Agree with Vorlon, I used Veeam Free Agent for many months if not years. It just runs!! It does the job well.


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Hello poindexter!

19 Sep 24 07:20, you wrote to me:

Give veeam backup "Agent for Windows" a try. (Free for home use).
https://www.veeam.com/products/free/microsoft-windows.html?ad=dow
nloads

It will of course do a initial full lbackup, then incremental for
the remaning untill the roll over date and then depending on the
settings a full backup.

Interesting, I'm using Windows backup for Windows 7 (hidden on Windows
11, but still there) and expect it to go away at some point.

Expect it to go bye bye on the next ms update. #-(

Like the way they move things for easy of use.. Something that took two click to get to now takes four or five.......

I like Veeam, use their software on VMWare extensively.

I have it installed on my main pc, and any of the vm's that I also run....

I'm seeing 130+ mb sec accross a gigabit network for backup's.



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Hello Shurato!

19 Sep 24 11:40, you wrote to me:

Acronis True Image is taking 20+ hours to back up 2.5TB. This
is ridiculous. What can I use that would be as effective, but
actually use the 1Gbps the drive is capable of instead of about
50mbps...

Your using the wrong type of software. There is no need to always
backup the whole drive.

I just replaced the drive, I need to backup all of my stuff. Normally
it does incremental backups.

Give veeam backup "Agent for Windows" a try. (Free for home use).
https://www.veeam.com/products/free/microsoft-windows.html?ad=downl
oads

Is it fast? I'll look at it.

Yes it is.. I only use it across a gigabit network and am seeing backup speeds of 130+mb a sec.
Backuping up to usb (even usb 3) devices will always be slow imho...

I've done test's in the past and foind going across the network was always 3-4 times faster.



Vorlon


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Hello Bucko!

19 Sep 24 18:49, you wrote to me:

Give veeam backup "Agent for Windows" a try. (Free for home use).

[...]

It will backup to local hd, usb drive, network. Plus tell the
kids to get off the lawn.*

Agree with Vorlon, I used Veeam Free Agent for many months if not
years. It just runs!! It does the job well.

The only time I've had to look at it, is if a backup has failed... Sofar they haven't been due to veeam, but something else...
I've got it installed on real hardware and VM's (Both Linux & Windoes).

Have even talked someone over the phone on how to recover a file from the backup (Windows version).


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Hello Shurato!

19 Sep 24 11:40, you wrote to me:

Acronis True Image is taking 20+ hours to back up 2.5TB. This is >> Sh> ridiculous. What can I use that would be as effective, but actuall >> Sh> use the 1Gbps the drive is capable of instead of about 50mbps...

Your using the wrong type of software. There is no need to always
backup the whole drive.

I just replaced the drive, I need to backup all of my stuff.

Normally

it does incremental backups.

Give veeam backup "Agent for Windows" a try. (Free for home use).
https://www.veeam.com/products/free/microsoft-windows.html?ad=downl
oads

Is it fast? I'll look at it.

Yes it is.. I only use it across a gigabit network and am seeing backup speeds of 130+mb a sec. Backuping up to usb (even usb 3) devices
will always be slow imho...

I've done test's in the past and foind going across the network was always 3-4 times faster.

I'm using USB 3, and it is to an HDD, so it's going to be around 100-200MB/s.
Your quote of 130mb/s is extremely slow, unless you're using the wrong abbreviations for MegaByte (you're using megabit). I got Macrium Reflect,
and it's going to take about 3 hours for the full backup. I'm not sure how long it'll take for incrementals. It's to a 22TB drive, from about 3.5TB,
so I've got plenty of room.

Vorlon

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Hello Shurato!

Acronis True Image is taking 20+ hours to back up 2.5TB. This is
ridiculous.

Is that over USB 2.0? If so, perhaps that speed is expected.

3.1Gen2 I believe. Not 2.0. The drive does 100MBps regularly when dragging files over.

I tremble when I need to move rather "small" 3.3GB files!

My email file:

19/09/2024 12:45 PM 3,262,284,800 august2.pst

real 16m 14.20s
user 0m 6.02s
sys 1m 4.38s

I currently move that across the network to another PC that has
a USB HDD attached via USB 2

Ten times that size would be 32GB at 160min. :(

And 10 times that would be about 3TB at 1600min == 26 hrs.
That's close to what you're getting now.

Hope you track down the reason your transfers are so slow over
USB 3.1.

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Gamgee wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

Could you give some details on where that Win7 backup function can be found in Win11? I'd like to know for use on my wife's Windows machine. Thanks.

Control Panel ->security and Maintenance, or Control Panel, All Control
Panel Items, Backup and Restore (Windows 7)

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Vorlon wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

I'm seeing 130+ mb sec accross a gigabit network for backup's.

Nice. I have a 10GB USB external plugged into my NAS that I plan to use
for backups. Media and documents already get synced to the NAS, where
they're backed up again using Proxmox' built-in backup.



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poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Gamgee <=-

Gamgee wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

Could you give some details on where that Win7 backup function can be found in Win11? I'd like to know for use on my wife's Windows machine. Thanks.

Control Panel ->security and Maintenance, or Control Panel, All Control Panel Items, Backup and Restore (Windows 7)

Cool, thank you.

P.S. - Not sure if you know it, but there were a BUTTLOAD of
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tear/origin lines.

I'm reading mail with a QWK reader - I may have <cr>'ed those lines
down and not cleaned up my reply afterwards.

All good on this one. :-)



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Hello Shurato!

19 Sep 24 20:18, you wrote to me:

Yes it is.. I only use it across a gigabit network and am seeing
backup speeds of 130+mb a sec. Backuping up to usb (even usb 3)

[...]

was always 3-4 times faster.

I'm using USB 3, and it is to an HDD, so it's going to be around 100-200MB/s. Your quote of 130mb/s is extremely slow, unless you're
using the wrong abbreviations for MegaByte (you're using megabit). I

From one of the vm's... Veeam read in 43Gb, and transferd 24.6Gb of changed data.


Duration: 00:13:55 Processed: 43.7 GB (100%)
Processing rate: 135.8 MB/s Read: 43.7 GB
Bottleneck: Source Transferred: 24.6 GB (1.8x)

Time Action Duration

12:18:18 Job fred started at 2024-09-15 02:18:18 UTC
12:18:20 Preparing to backup
12:18:24 Creating volume snapshot 00:00:01
12:18:28 Starting incremental backup to Repository_1
12:18:29 Backing up BIOS bootloader on /dev/sda 00:00:00
12:18:30 Backed up sda 43.7 GB at 132.8 MB/s 00:05:37
12:24:07 Backing up summary.xml 00:00:00
12:24:10 Releasing snapshot 00:00:01
12:24:14 Applying retention policy 00:07:59
12:24:17 Full backup file merge completed successfully 00:07:54
12:32:13 Processing finished at 2024-09-15 02:32:13 UTC





Vorlon


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Give veeam backup "Agent for Windows" a try. (Free for home use).

https://www.veeam.com/products/free/microsoft-windows.html?ad=downloads

Is it fast? I'll look at it.

This is a +1 for Veeam. I used it at work in our data center and use it at home on my small network (1 blade server with about a dozen VMs, and 4 PCs). Granted, these are all running on a 1gb connection, but it's lickety split for the diffs. The first full backup takes a while, not gonna lie.

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This is a +1 for Veeam. I used it at work in our data center and use it
at home on my small network (1 blade server with about a dozen VMs, and
4 PCs). Granted, these are all running on a 1gb connection, but it's lickety split for the diffs. The first full backup takes a while, not gonna lie.

Way back before my work moved everything to the cloud, this is what our IT team used. The few times we had to restore a backup it just worked & was pretty quick for the amount of data involved.

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