n2qfd wrote to All <=-
Just stumbled into Gemini Protocol and as an alternate to HTTP and
the internet we're currently using.
Krystal as a Client or Lagrange...
Anyone have any thoughts on this to share? Is this a good project?
the markup language is easier than Gopher
I'm hard-pressed to figure out why I wouldn't just use HTML and skip on
the javascript or any of the cruft that made web pages huge. *maybe*
HTML, it renders in any browser, and you can still keep it smol, run it
Money talks right, nothing .gmi will be taking the
world of commerce by storm any more than Mastodon has
overtaken the "hellscape" of X (Twitter) and I think
Tumblr must be some sort of joke waiting for a punchline!
Re: Re: Gemini protocol
By: n2qfd to poindexter FORTRAN on Tue Apr 09 2024 03:41 pm
The core competencies of the marketplace do not speak to the best things in life such as peace, love, unity, and respect. OTOH, i suppose those who work in glass museums shouldn't cast aspersions at their source.
The core competencies of the marketplace do not speak to the best things in life such as peace, love, unity, and respect. OTOH, i suppose those who work in glass museums shouldn't cast aspersions at their source.
There was this study Dunbar's Number https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunbar%27s_number that
said we've got a limit.
I was in Yeshiva and worked briefly as a clergyman, so
this sort of thinking was important to us. If I can only
have about 100-150 individuals who I can maintain a real
connection with how does that affect the congregation
and our need to have extra clergy.
I think it translates to BBS or any other small but dedicated social interaction circle. I'd just rather be around people who
can be part of a discussion, not just like what I like
but are just civil and here for honest interaction. I've
got nothing to gain apart from ego and that does run
away from everyone once in an while but generally it's
just nice to be with other folks who have put in the
meaningful effort to be in this space together.
Congregations need not be religious, or political, but as wild as it sounds just comparing notes on how life is going.
I haven't figured out if it's an age related thing or not
yet. I think some of that steers the medium. I think
most of us had some interaction with electronics, radio
or BBS in the past and we're coming back around to this
thing. There are bound to be people who are new to the
medium too. But we've committed to a shared space and
format and for the right sort of individual this is it.
On this topic - I have a book on my desk I haven't read
yet, "The Modem World: A Prehistory of Social Media" by
Kevin Driscoll, I suspect I will read a more cogent opinion
on the topic there.
I'm curious what else the Fediverse will bring to us, I
know there is more to it than just Mastodon and Lemmy but I
haven't looked into any other services. I was surprised
how quickly I took to both Mastodon and Lemmy, it took
almost no time at all for me to find my whole experience
got undeniably better than Twitter and Reddit had been.
I'll still search Reddit for information someone may have
posted, but I go to Lemmy for the conversation.
I never heard of Lemmy. I thought "the conversation" is on
FTN's! :D
Mastadon is too bloated in my opinion.
Element is as far I would take the federated experience.
I have actually been more active in conversation on fsxNet than Lemmy,
but really they pair well together IMO! :)
bailed for Mastodon at the same time I was done with Twitter, so I was
I have actually been more active in conversation on fsxNet than Lemmy but really they pair well together IMO! :)
Lemmy?
I have actually been more active in conversation on fsxNet than Lemmy,
but really they pair well together IMO! :)
Lemmy?
bailed for Mastodon at the same time I was done with Twitter, so I was
Another one I havent heard about.
Lemmy is an open-source Reddit-like platform. It is awesome.
Self-hosted, but connect with other Lemmy instances... really cool.
Lemmy?
Lemmy is part of "the fediverse", a collection of social networking servers which can communicate with each other, while remaining independently controlled.
Lemmy is an open-source Reddit-like platform. It is awesome. Self-hosted, but connect with other Lemmy instances... really cool.
You got me down a rabbit hole yesterday evening. :)
Yea - I think I was on Beehaw and then the main lemmy community. I still have an account, but still use reddit so...
I have actually been more active in conversation on fsxNet
than Lemmy, but really they pair well together IMO! :)
Element is as far I would take the federated experience.
I haven't used Element, it looks like it is for one on one
communication, or group messaging with contacts? Looks
nice, will have to learn more about it. Cool to see, and
compare, these different styles of communication systems.
Lemmy?
Dead guy (RIP).... used to sing for Motorhead! :)
I think of that every time I see Lemmy..
Ben Collver wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
The browser scene is compromised by corporate interest, all the way
down to the standards bodies. All mainstream browsers push telemetry, HTTPS-only, and bloat such as WebGL. Those who don't support this
bloat are considered obsolete. Many indie sites use clownflare for DoS protection, and this injects JS dependencies.
Did you see Bohemian Rhapsody Chris?
There was an element of Freddy Mercury that I think
they tried to play up in that Queen was a band for all
the folks who were standing around the walls and at the
back of the other concerts.
I find there's a lot of that in this new federated
space we're all exploring together. It was different
when I was a teen and maybe more applicable as that's
the age one feel the wallflower I suppose. Well, we grew
up but didn't forget it and I think there's some honest
ability to craft the space we want and as you pointed
out there's a new generation who are getting a taste of
this too.
I've been playing with Gemini this week and started a
page (capsule) for the BBS for a learning exercise.
There's this nice Welsh fellow Wil who's got a server
called Capsule.Town hosting and he spelled out some how
too's really nicely. https://wilw.dev/ and his capsule gemini://wilw.capsule.town
I think people are quick to write off the experiments in parallels to Big Internet but I'm not convinced that Smol Internet is a fad either.
And there's something really nice about ending up here,
looking around and seeing that you're not the only one.
That was perhaps the best part of the BBS thing when I
was a teen in a small town in the 90's.
because I knew my alphabet in Kindergarten as we had an
early PC (an Interact and later a TI-99) and I learned
the keyboard! Destroyed my chances at a quality
education! Things were different, and often you felt the
freak for not fitting in and the BBS's let us look over
the valley walls and be reassured, there was indeed a
larger world out there.
I really like Lemmy - both that its a Reddit competitor,
and that it can be community based or federated to the
larger Lemmy community. I had thought about standing a
lemmy server when Reddit started being arseholes about
their API.
In fact, did the 3rd party reddit clients get taken down
(or charged 2M dollars to exist...) like Reddit said
they were gonna do?? I think so.
I checked out your sample posts on Lemmy and Mastadon. Then, I
explored the Lemmy-verse a bit. I searched for specific
"communities" and quickly felt overwhelmed with the posting
structure. I don't think there is a way to mark a message for
later replies. There's no way to even save a particilar post as
a later reference. And, of course the whole thing requires a
live internet connection at all times.
I suppose technically, Element is one of the interfaces for the
system. The system is actually called Matrix.
I primarily use it for one-to-one secure/encrypted messaging. I
like the way it syncs between my various desktops and droid
phones. But Session seems to be even better for that.
Element/Matrix has also been explored as a BBS-like system by a
few people. tqwNet is an example. However.. its matrix
presence seems to have died down. The last 5 posts dated Feb27
2023 to Mar8 2024 have all been "<user> left the room".
Another platform that is going to hurt a lot of us when
they inevitably crank up the enshittification is
Discord. It's been a pretty nice user experience so
far, but the clock is ticking on when they start to
squeeze. Discord has become pretty ubiquitous so I
expect it to happen fairly soon, little bit by little
bit, until it's a lot.
I haven't looked into running a server, but as a user on some of the established servers it's been a great experience. Part of what makes it
a great experience is knowing that I can setup my own server and connect it, if I want.
I think the enshittification is inescapable with corporate-controlled platforms.
Another platform that is going to hurt a lot of us when they inevitably crank up the enshittification is Discord.
What website to you lemmy from? I liked Beehaw, but not
their politics - so I switched to the main one... for
me, when Beehaw unfederated from a LARGE lemmy host I
was upset.
Another platform that is going to hurt a lot of us when they inevitably crank up the enshittification is Discord.
Thats what Matrix is for - I use Disco still, but do MOST of my chatting p> on Matrix. There is a Quantum Wormhole server you can use - matrix.erb.pw
Another platform that is going to hurt a lot of us when they inevitab crank up the enshittification is Discord.
Thats what Matrix is for - I use Disco still, but do MOST of my chatti
on Matrix. There is a Quantum Wormhole server you can use - matrix.erb.pw
I had noticed you didn't seem very active on Discord, I didn't realize Matrix is where it's at, I just thought you were stuck up! ;)
Do you always use the Element web interface, or do you 'enter the
matrix' using other interfaces? I am soon going to have to actually
check out Matrix after hearing about it here and there for some years now.. I just never took the time to actually take a look myself.
Element/Matrix has also been explored as a BBS-like system by a
few people. tqwNet is an example. However.. its matrix
presence seems to have died down. The last 5 posts dated Feb27
2023 to Mar8 2024 have all been "<user> left the room".
This ____head.... :P
Stuck up - _ this mother........... :P
oops - I thought I was in a local 2oFB msg base for this
reply. AKA and I rib eachother there and it was tongue
in cheek. At any rate, sorry for language on fsx; I
didn't realize it was an FTN post.
oops - I thought I was in a local 2oFB msg base for this
reply. AKA and I rib eachother there and it was tongue
in cheek. At any rate, sorry for language on fsx; I
didn't realize it was an FTN post.
I just couldn't resist throwing some bait out, caught you Paulie. ;)
This ____head.... :P
Stuck up - _ this mother........... :P
oops - I thought I was in a local 2oFB msg base for this reply. AKA and
I rib eachother there and it was tongue in cheek. At any rate, sorry for language on fsx; I didn't realize it was an FTN post.
This ____head.... :P
Stuck up - _ this mother........... :P
oops - I thought I was in a local 2oFB msg base for this reply. AKA a I rib eachother there and it was tongue in cheek. At any rate, sorry language on fsx; I didn't realize it was an FTN post.
thanks, I was a tad surprised... but appreciate the insight.
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