• fsxNet mail moves so fast!

    From AKAcastor@21:1/162 to All on Sun Mar 31 23:52:18 2024
    I just want to take a moment to say that fsxNet mail travels so fast it's wonderful. The modern era of BBSing where always-on internet is ubiquitous has some perks!

    I was still calling long distance for mail when I ran a BBS in the 90s, so one pickup in the middle of the night was all I did. Anyway back then the echoes moved much slower than today.

    It's a joy to be able to check into the BBS at different times of the day and find new messages to read.

    Thanks to Avon and all the long-timers for keeping things running and also improving along the way!


    Chris/akacastor

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to AKAcastor on Mon Apr 1 21:47:18 2024
    On 31 Mar 2024 at 11:52p, AKAcastor pondered and said...

    It's a joy to be able to check into the BBS at different times of the
    day and find new messages to read.

    Thanks to Avon and all the long-timers for keeping things running and
    also improving along the way!

    Hi Chris.

    Thanks for the kind feedback and for equally being active in fsx.. yes it's certainly a bit quicker these days when messages bounce around the globe via TCPIP than the dial up days.

    I'm hoping that the migration of the NET 4 hub has gone smoothly for most, I plan to work on getting some stats reports running soon and then can use those to update the nodelist on which nodes are still active etc.in that NET.

    Monday night here as I type this reply, back to work tomorrow after the Easter break. Roll on the weekend :-)

    Best, Paul

    Kerr Avon [Blake's 7] 'I'm not expendable, I'm not stupid and I'm not going' avon[at]bbs.nz | bbs.nz | fsxnet.nz

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  • From n2qfd@21:1/154 to AKAcastor on Mon Apr 1 07:11:57 2024
    It is uncanny isn't it!
    Like I post stuff to fsx from another BBS and I'll think Oh I need to do something to mine and I'll bop over here and voila here it is!
    I was just writing about HF packet radio BBS and at 300bps +- atmospheric conditions it could be really hairy affair getting the smallest text messages through!

    This is robust and practical in every way here!

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  • From AKAcastor@21:1/162 to N2qfd on Mon Apr 1 11:57:34 2024
    It is uncanny isn't it!
    Like I post stuff to fsx from another BBS and I'll
    think Oh I need to do something to mine and I'll bop
    over here and voila here it is!

    A couple of times it's given me an odd feeling - like waitaminute, the pace of things on BBSes was slow, I thought! Round trip of ~2 minutes on messages is incredible. (for example clrghz test replies)

    I was just writing about HF packet radio BBS and at
    300bps +- atmospheric conditions it could be really
    hairy affair getting the smallest text messages through!

    Now we're chatting in absolute luxury on fsxNet! :)

    Though, there is an undeniable coolness factor to HF packet radio!


    Chris/akacastor

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  • From Roon@21:4/148 to AKAcastor on Mon Apr 1 22:51:11 2024
    Hello AKAcastor,

    01 Apr 24 11:57, you wrote to N2qfd:

    It is uncanny isn't it!
    Like I post stuff to fsx from another BBS and I'll
    think Oh I need to do something to mine and I'll bop
    over here and voila here it is!

    A couple of times it's given me an odd feeling - like waitaminute, the
    pace of things on BBSes was slow, I thought! Round trip of ~2 minutes
    on messages is incredible. (for example clrghz test replies)

    i've set a cron job to only toss mail in every 20 mins, so the illusion stays there a tiny bit :)

    Regards,
    --
    dp

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  • From AKAcastor@21:1/162 to Roon on Mon Apr 1 14:18:44 2024
    A couple of times it's given me an odd feeling - like waitaminute, the
    pace of things on BBSes was slow, I thought! Round trip of ~2 minutes
    on messages is incredible. (for example clrghz test replies)

    i've set a cron job to only toss mail in every 20 mins,
    so the illusion stays there a tiny bit :)

    Brilliant!!

    I do really enjoy how truly 'authentic' your BBS feels, Roon, running OS/2 on a Pentium and your other nice touches around the system - it does feel more 'true' to my memory than many others.


    Chris/akacastor

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  • From Bucko@21:4/131 to AKAcastor on Mon Apr 1 18:39:20 2024
    On 31 Mar 2024, AKAcastor said the following...

    I just want to take a moment to say that fsxNet mail travels so fast it's wonderful. The modern era of BBSing where always-on internet is ubiquitous has some perks!

    I was still calling long distance for mail when I ran a BBS in the 90s,
    so one pickup in the middle of the night was all I did. Anyway back
    then the echoes moved much slower than today.

    It's a joy to be able to check into the BBS at different times of the
    day and find new messages to read.

    Thanks to Avon and all the long-timers for keeping things running and
    also improving along the way!


    You don't know the half of it!!! When I first got on fsxNet back in 2018 I was brand new to Mystic BBS, having not run a BBS since 1996. I was lost with this software.. So one night I asked a question in the Mystic echo, Avon replied and I had the response within 5 minutes! Then Al replied, and we all were going back and forth just about in real time. It was so wild, Avon is on the other side of the world from me, Al is up in Canada somewhere. What used to take days to get I was getting responses in minutes! LOL

    The other Al

    ... Great minds think alike; small minds run together

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  • From paulie420@21:2/150 to AKAcastor on Mon Apr 1 19:24:46 2024
    I just want to take a moment to say that fsxNet mail travels so fast it's wonderful. The modern era of BBSing where always-on internet is ubiquitous has some perks!

    Thanks to Avon and all the long-timers for keeping things running and
    also improving along the way!

    Agree - fsxNet was one of the first things I found when I came back to BBSing, and as you said FTNs are much different from the FidoNet days. I remember knowing how many hours/days netmail would take to reach different friends that I'd write to depending on where they were in the world. :P



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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Roon on Tue Apr 2 20:24:25 2024
    On 01 Apr 2024 at 10:51p, Roon pondered and said...

    i've set a cron job to only toss mail in every 20 mins, so the illusion stays there a tiny bit :)

    I like the speed and have all my settings to CRASH, so the BBS exports and sends away within 20 secs of me hitting save, at times it's nice to come back within a few minutes and have a reply. Some chats I have had over the years have been global in nature and kind of near real time, if you allow for a gap of 2-4 mins between post and response. That always gives me a buzz :)

    Kerr Avon [Blake's 7] 'I'm not expendable, I'm not stupid and I'm not going' avon[at]bbs.nz | bbs.nz | fsxnet.nz

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Bucko on Tue Apr 2 20:25:05 2024
    On 01 Apr 2024 at 06:39p, Bucko pondered and said...

    lost with this software.. So one night I asked a question in the Mystic echo, Avon replied and I had the response within 5 minutes! Then Al replied, and we all were going back and forth just about in real time.
    It was so wild, Avon is on the other side of the world from me, Al is up in Canada somewhere. What used to take days to get I was getting
    responses in minutes! LOL

    this rings bells :)

    Kerr Avon [Blake's 7] 'I'm not expendable, I'm not stupid and I'm not going' avon[at]bbs.nz | bbs.nz | fsxnet.nz

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to paulie420 on Tue Apr 2 20:28:14 2024
    On 01 Apr 2024 at 07:24p, paulie420 pondered and said...

    Agree - fsxNet was one of the first things I found when I came back to BBSing, and as you said FTNs are much different from the FidoNet days. I remember knowing how many hours/days netmail would take to reach
    different friends that I'd write to depending on where they were in the world. :P

    I recall in the 90's a number of local FTN networks in the city I was living, and then there were networks like Demimonde, RGSNet (Renegade Support Network), of course Fidonet etc... I mostly read and posted to echomail but did do some limited netmails often to local sysops etc... but it always felt then (as it does now) to be a fairly quick thing to post something, come back next day or two and read some replies.

    But with TCP/IP traffic these days it can be minutes now instead of days depending on if you strike it right with whomever is reading the echomail areas around the globe.

    Kerr Avon [Blake's 7] 'I'm not expendable, I'm not stupid and I'm not going' avon[at]bbs.nz | bbs.nz | fsxnet.nz

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to Avon on Tue Apr 2 07:58:00 2024
    Avon wrote to paulie420 <=-


    I recall in the 90's a number of local FTN networks in the city I was living, and then there were networks like Demimonde, RGSNet (Renegade Support Network), of course Fidonet etc... I mostly read and posted to echomail but did do some limited netmails often to local sysops etc...
    but it always felt then (as it does now) to be a fairly quick thing to post something, come back next day or two and read some replies.

    When I first started out, it felt like it would take one day per hop. I
    used Zone Mail Hour at first, when I ran Opus. I'd send it up to my hub overnight, my hub would send it to the echomail coordinator, who moved
    the mail overnight to one of the star sites, and the process would
    reverse. Sometimes, if the person didn't quote, I'd forget what we were
    arguing about!

    Crashmail improved things, I could crash mail to my hub as soon as I was
    ready.

    When I got my first FTP FTN feed, I was in heaven - I could poll hourly,
    for free! Unfortunately, by that time, 1997 or so, Fido networks were on
    the decline.



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  • From Roon@21:4/148 to AKAcastor on Tue Apr 2 23:16:21 2024
    Hello AKAcastor,

    01 Apr 24 14:18, you wrote to me:

    A couple of times it's given me an odd feeling - like waitaminute,
    the pace of things on BBSes was slow, I thought! Round trip of ~2
    minutes on messages is incredible. (for example clrghz test
    replies)

    i've set a cron job to only toss mail in every 20 mins,
    so the illusion stays there a tiny bit :)

    Brilliant!!

    I do really enjoy how truly 'authentic' your BBS feels, Roon, running
    OS/2 on a Pentium and your other nice touches around the system - it
    does feel more 'true' to my memory than many others.

    thank you for your kind words!

    as you started the beta of Another Millenium, i feel a bit competitive with another great Maximus BBS! so i will polish it further if i'll have some time :)

    Regards,
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    dp

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  • From Roon@21:4/148 to Avon on Tue Apr 2 23:22:25 2024
    Hello Avon,

    02 Apr 24 20:24, you wrote to me:

    On 01 Apr 2024 at 10:51p, Roon pondered and said...

    i've set a cron job to only toss mail in every 20 mins, so the
    illusion stays there a tiny bit :)

    I like the speed and have all my settings to CRASH, so the BBS exports
    and sends away within 20 secs of me hitting save, at times it's nice
    to come back within a few minutes and have a reply. Some chats I have
    had over the years have been global in nature and kind of near real
    time, if you allow for a gap of 2-4 mins between post and response.
    That always gives me a buzz :)

    i have a second reason for running tossing only 3 times in an hour: the old pentium and the slow I/O just dont have enough horsepower for tossing all the time. the whole system got very slow when every small packet got tossed in every 10 sec. :)

    Regards,
    --
    dp

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to Roon on Tue Apr 2 15:55:58 2024
    Re: fsxNet mail moves so fast!
    By: Roon to Avon on Tue Apr 02 2024 11:22 pm

    i have a second reason for running tossing only 3 times in an hour: the old pentium and the slow I/O just dont have enough horsepower for tossing all the time. the whole system got very slow when every small packet got tossed in every 10 sec. :)

    My first incarnation of realitycheckBBS ran Telegard on an IBM AT. Telegard didn't have a tosser that could handle pkts back then, to I had to use qmail to toss packets to *.msg files, then Telegard could toss those into the message base.

    All this was happening on a 32 megabyte hard drive, which would occasionally fill up during mail runs.

    I could toss one message from pkt to *.msg in about second, and it took another second to toss it from *.msg into Telegard. Nightly mail runs meant hearing a full-height 5 1/4" drive churning away for an hour or more. Modern garbage disposals are quieter. :)
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  • From Bucko@21:4/131 to Avon on Tue Apr 2 19:54:39 2024
    On 02 Apr 2024, Avon said the following...

    On 01 Apr 2024 at 06:39p, Bucko pondered and said...

    this rings bells :)

    Kerr Avon [Blake's 7] 'I'm not expendable, I'm not stupid and I'm not

    :) Yes it does.. LOL

    ... I'm not a complete idiot... Several parts are missing!

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to poindexter FORTRAN on Wed Apr 3 16:44:04 2024
    On 02 Apr 2024 at 07:58a, poindexter FORTRAN pondered and said...

    When I got my first FTP FTN feed, I was in heaven - I could poll hourly, for free! Unfortunately, by that time, 1997 or so, Fido networks were on the decline.

    Yep, I think it was 1996 or 1995 when I moved away from BBS and certainly by around then I was more into slip logins to Unix shell accounts etc.

    Never did FTP for FTN but did find some software when I first returned to the scene that offered FTN via email file attachments. This made me giggle.

    Kerr Avon [Blake's 7] 'I'm not expendable, I'm not stupid and I'm not going' avon[at]bbs.nz | bbs.nz | fsxnet.nz

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Roon on Wed Apr 3 16:46:32 2024
    On 02 Apr 2024 at 11:22p, Roon pondered and said...

    i have a second reason for running tossing only 3 times in an hour: the old pentium and the slow I/O just dont have enough horsepower for
    tossing all the time. the whole system got very slow when every small packet got tossed in every 10 sec. :)

    I recall gating Usenet to FTN packets back around 1993, it was a kludge setup using Waffle BBS and some other FTP packet tossers. The PC was always working hard.

    Kerr Avon [Blake's 7] 'I'm not expendable, I'm not stupid and I'm not going' avon[at]bbs.nz | bbs.nz | fsxnet.nz

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  • From Blue White@21:4/134 to Avon on Wed Apr 3 08:07:17 2024
    I recall gating Usenet to FTN packets back around 1993, it was a
    kludge setup using Waffle BBS and some other FTP packet tossers. The
    PC was always working hard.

    Yep, I did that in the early 1990's. I was running a board where FTN was
    not native so it was an extra challenge. I think it went something like
    this:

    Waffle <-> Fredmail <-> Squish <-> Fidogate <-> My Board

    "Fidogate" in this case was the "tosser" that ran in between the FTN
    tosser and my board which converted *.msg files into the board's message
    bases.

    Then someone wrote a package for GT Power that would replace the Waffle callouts to the Usenet provider, and that IIRC also replaced the Fredmail-Squish-Fidogate part. Made things a lot easier.



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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Blue White on Thu Apr 4 13:14:42 2024
    On 03 Apr 2024 at 08:07a, Blue White pondered and said...

    Waffle <-> Fredmail <-> Squish <-> Fidogate <-> My Board

    Yes I recall using Squish and Watergate along with Renegade BBS and Waffle (from memory)

    Kerr Avon [Blake's 7] 'I'm not expendable, I'm not stupid and I'm not going' avon[at]bbs.nz | bbs.nz | fsxnet.nz

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  • From Exodus@21:1/144 to Avon on Wed Apr 3 20:30:54 2024
    Yes I recall using Squish and Watergate along with Renegade BBS and Waffle (from memory)

    Ick. The proper was always FrontDoor -> GEcho -> Renemail -> Renegade. :)

    ... Insert your favorite rude obnoxious offensive phrase here

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  • From Utopian Galt@21:4/108 to Paulie420 on Fri Apr 5 21:34:34 2024
    BY: paulie420 (21:2/150)

    |11p|09> |10Agree - fsxNet was one of the first things I found when I came back to|07
    |11p|09> |10BBSing, and as you said FTNs are much different from the FidoNet days. I|07
    |11p|09> |10remember knowing how many hours/days netmail would take to reach|07 |11p|09> |10different friends that I'd write to depending on where they were in the|07
    |11p|09> |10world. :P|07
    Twenty years ago. I had a telegard bbs with like 10 different ftn othernets from around the world.

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  • From hollowone@21:2/150 to AKAcastor on Sat Apr 20 14:19:32 2024
    I just want to take a moment to say that fsxNet mail travels so fast it's wonderful. The modern era of BBSing where always-on internet is ubiquitous has some perks!

    Agreed! Still being focused on the content without all that "ubiquitous" UX of today's era is rare beyond measure and most likely underestimated by all who never experienced text terminal pre-Internet connectivity before... or at least Internet USENET in the times of downloading all subscribed lists offline, to respond to them next day with a proper upload batch like QWK I have had to relearn as post revolutionary prerequisite to all I knew as Internet 30 years ago....

    -h1

    ... Xerox Alto was the thing. Anything after we use is just a mere copy.

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