Even if you aren't in the US I still wish you a happy Thanksgiving. For us its the start of the holiday season. Keep up the BBS world and thank you all so much.
Even if you aren't in the US I still wish you a happy Thanksgiving. For us its the start of the holiday season. Keep up the BBS world and thank you all so much.
Happy Thanksgiving to you as well, and to everyone else!
-Zarnock
We don't really do this holiday over here in New Zealand but the
retailers have started to embrace those Black Friday sales it
seems.... anything to drum up some customers I think ;)
Tomorrow in the US we will be celebrating Thanksgiving. This day we
spend thinking about what we are thankful for and seeing friends and family. While eating ourselves in to a coma. I am thankful for all my
BBS friends. I was welcomed in to the community and so many people her are enthusiastic about all the same nerdy things I am in to. Its been a great time. I am not sure exactly how long my board has been up now but
I know it's been a great time.
Even if you aren't in the US I still wish you a happy Thanksgiving. For us its the start of the holiday season. Keep up the BBS world and thank you all so much.
We don't really do this holiday over here in New Zealand but the
retailers have started to embrace those Black Friday sales it seems.... anything to drum up some customers I think ;)
Tomorrow in the US we will be celebrating Thanksgiving. This day we
spend thinking about what we are thankful for and seeing friends and family. While eating ourselves in to a coma. I am thankful for all my
BBS friends. I was welcomed in to the community and so many people her are enthusiastic about all the same nerdy things I am in to. Its been a great time. I am not sure exactly how long my board has been up now but
I know it's been a great time.
Even if you aren't in the US I still wish you a happy Thanksgiving. For us its the start of the holiday season. Keep up the BBS world and thank you all so much.
DrClaw
My younger daughter literally just asked me while I'm typing this, after seeing an ad on the TV, "What is the point of Black Friday?" Greed? Consumerism?
My younger daughter literally just asked me while I'm typing this, after
seeing an ad on the TV, "What is the point of Black Friday?" Greed?
Consumerism?
Both?
Re: Happy Thanksgiving to everyone!
Both?
It's a day that stores often offer sales.. Stores do that sometimes.
I'm not sure it means it's purely greed and consumerism..
Nightfox
It's a day that stores often offer sales.. Stores do that sometimes.My younger daughter literally just asked me while I'm typing this, afBoth?
seeing an ad on the TV, "What is the point of Black Friday?" Greed?
Consumerism?
I'm not sure it means it's purely greed and consumerism..
Yep, I try not to judge the stores as then I'd need to judge the people.
Yep, I try not to judge the stores as then I'd need to judge the people. The crazy behavior sometimes shown in the media how people hunt and fight for bargain only shows how low-lives some may have to turn themselves into such primitives occasionally. But that's not so often visible today as in the past (I remember a tv news spot about 20 years ago about Black Friday night opening in a store and people sprawling in like if it was some zombie apocalypse movie).
IMO if retail did finer management then we would not need crazy stock and restock cycles such as this. I suppose it is hard to do at large scale.
IMO if retail did finer management then we would not need crazy stock and restock cycles such as this. I suppose it is hard to do at large scale.
restock cycles such as this. I suppose it is hard to do at large scale.
I think it was part of the challenge for local stores, especially if they had bad deal regarding returns of the over stock.
Not sure what smaller stores are meant to do with whatever they have.
My business is not that seasonal, but my understanding is that scheduled discount events exist mainly in order to get rid of overstocks.
Thank you, even though in Australia its just another Thursday. We seem
to have imported "Black Friday", with many many retailers going on the "Black Friday" bandwagon. It's kind of odd to see this popup without
any context. For the US, its the day after Thanksgiving, but here, its just, another Friday. I would like once to have a white Christmas, not one with a long day and warm weather.
My younger daughter literally just asked me while I'm typing this, after seeing an ad on the TV, "What is the point of Black Friday?" Greed? Consumerism?
and If you're just a local store and still trading online as well, then that
It's hard to do even for a smaller shop, like mine. At one
point i looked into stocking CDs, but the distributor had a
rather large minimum order requirement, and "non-returnable".
Under that scheme, stock would just grow and grow as new
recordings were released. At some point, the retailer would
practically have to give the product away and report a loss.
Hmm missing some of the original quote,... I seem to recall seeing somewhere.. that a lot of large retail ordering is done more or less on a punt some 3 months or so in advance... So you've not got much way of knowing whats going to sell or what you're going to have left over...meaning end of season, or known seasonal sales are a good exit method.
I always love how they tell you your saving big. Well saving big is when you
PS. I finally upgraded my TV last weekend. After 15 years, my old FHD got replaced by a proper OLED 4K, 10'' bigger than the previous one! Hah!
Not sure what smaller stores are meant to do with whatever they have.
What I meant is that small shops, run by individuals not networks may not have access to best deals, and best deals may include more arguments for more efficient return policy.
than selling at loss.. I claimed that many small scale shops had to sell to empty storage for new season and sometimes it's losing less than keeping the store occupied by unsold and unsellable items.
On 23 Nov 2023, Avon said the following...
We don't really do this holiday over here in New Zealand but the retailers have started to embrace those Black Friday sales it seems.. anything to drum up some customers I think ;)
It's seeming like here black Friday is now a week instead of just a day.
I imagine cyber Monday will follow suit soon enough. I hope if you're
It seems like Black Friday here is still a new thing but they have
been going out a few days earlier than the day and saying the sale was
on already.... we're not quite up to where you are - yet ;)
It's hard to do even for a smaller shop, like mine. At one
point i looked into stocking CDs, but the distributor had a
rather large minimum order requirement, and "non-returnable".
Under that scheme, stock would just grow and grow ...
That summarizes 99% of the products I deal with.
My point is if you have steady sales you can estimate you
are going to sell 800 collagen units per year, and if you
do, you won't buy 1200. If you calculate you are gonna sell
20 boxes of cough tablets, you order a number close to it
so you don't have to get rid of it badly after Winter.
Well, unless your store is doing very badly, you usually have an idea. I certainly know how much of my top-tier products I am going to sell a given month. My boss at my other job knows how many patients from each given insurance company he is gonna have in the clinic each month, if just
My living room TV is one that I bought in 2015 - I don't want to replace it yet because it supports 3D, and I've heard they've stopped making 3D TVs..
I understand not enough people were interested in 3D, but it's frustrating when they stop making a certain feature that I actually like.
I understand not enough people were interested in 3D, but it's
frustrating when they stop making a certain feature that I actually like.
Nightfox
We're having cyber monday now, or maybe just yesterday.. not sure.. black friday was definitly longer that just friday.
I bought some things on ebay, and got a coupon for black friday, so am happy about that.
I don't mind the sales, it means I am more likely able to afford the
stuff I want. Although it would be nice if sale prices were regular prices, that's not going to happen. So I'm all for any excuse for a sale.
Andrew
This wasn't any kind of indictment. I've never worked that kind of retail so I have no idea how it might work. But I can't see any supplier wanting to take stock back.. In the paint business, even if the suppliers discontinue some obscure base they won't take them back or give you a credit for them. Of course they want you to buy in anything new at full boar.
You also need to contend with expiration dates on meds, no?
I think we're talking about wildly different stores here. Insurance isn't exactly retail.. No idea what you're doing... but I'm thinking here in Aus would be Big W, K Mart, Target... more or less mixed reatail including clothing, small appliances and assorted household stuff.
In my mind clothing would be the biggest headache.. ordering in advance, hoping its popular... Shifting what you can and doing the best you can with the rest...
Arelor wrote to hollowone <=-
Dunno. Your online store is not going to sell many barbecues in Winter,
Unless the buyers are planning to give them as Christmas gifts.
Unless the buyers are planning to give them as Christmas gifts.
Fair point, but I don't remember seeing anybody get a bbq as a CHristmas gift ever.
Dunno. Your online store is not going to sell many barbecues in Winter, nor many cough tablets in Summer. Being online helps you find customers but if you buy a seasonal dud it is not going to help as much as people thinks.
Chinese ship captains say if you have winter, there is always some place dow
We're having cyber monday now, or maybe just yesterday.. not sure.. black friday was definitly longer that just friday.
I bought some things on ebay, and got a coupon for black friday, so am happy about that.
It depends on the sector.
IMO what has to be a total nightmare is selling IT products, since those
I sometimes have to discard overstock, but usually it is
overstock they gave me as part of a deal and was forced to
take. "Sure, we can sell to you this VitamineD order at
half the regul├▒ar price, but you need to order 5 boxes and
also take this box of Oat Milk for free".
In the example, I might be confident I can sell all the
Vitamin D within the year and I am also sure I won't ever
sell the milk. I think sometimes they do this to me because
they have dead stocks themselves and they don't want to
store it anymore. What happens is I drink the milk myself
until it expires, then discard it :-P
...people who buys de-makeup products also likes to buy
cotton disks in the same store, so if you want to sell
demakeup products you need to have cotton disks.
On Wed Nov 29 12:19:00 2023, Avon wrote to apam <=-
Nice. yeah for me I am not full of ideas at the moment for stuff to get / play with etc. I think daily life has taken it's toll on me to be creative.
Arelor wrote to Spectre <=-
IMO what has to be a total nightmare is selling IT products, since
those lose value as fast as fruit. Would you buy a year old banana? Because I don t think many people would walk into retail and buy a year old GPU for the label price...
Spectre wrote to Arelor <=-
Used to apply to mixed retail, I imagine something similar would work
for IT I can't see how you'd cope with the devaluation otherwise..
claw wrote to apam <=-
The reason Black Friday is a whole week plus a Monday, is due to how
many people have died as a result. Look up Black Friday on youtube.
Watch stampedes, people fighting each other, and several other scammy things. They used to do things like the first 100 people get this deal
or something like that. After several law suits they then started
making people line up and then fights broke out.
Arelor wrote to Blue White <=-
Unless the buyers are planning to give them as Christmas gifts.
Fair point, but I don't remember seeing anybody get a bbq as a
CHristmas gift ever.
We once bought a barbecue for a friend, but it was because he let us
party in his home so often and we certainly bought it in summer.
claw wrote to apam <=-
The reason Black Friday is a whole week plus a Monday, is due to how many people have died as a result. Look up Black Friday on youtube. Watch stampedes, people fighting each other, and several other scammy things. They used to do things like the first 100 people get this de or something like that. After several law suits they then started making people line up and then fights broke out.
If you watch any "Black Friday" videos from the US this year, you will likely see a couple of things:
1) some videos that show hardly anyone there when the doors open -- that is not heard of, even after Black Friday was extended beyond Friday, but happened a lot this year.
2) other videos where there are some big knock-down drag-out fights in malls that don't appear directly related to the shopping experience, i.e. they didn't happen when the stores opened and people were fighting to get in, but rather in the common areas and food courts.
You will also find some mass shoplifting videos.
The fighting ones look more violent than anything I ever remember seeing from the old Black Friday. People having clothes ripped off, being dragged by close and hair, large groups fighting each other, etc.
Part of the "Black Friday" extension has less to do with what used to happen on Fridays as it does with an attempt to compete with online retailers who started "Cyber Monday" a few years back and also extended some of their deals into the weekend leading up to that Monday, which is the Black Friday weekend.
Life can get like that, hope it gets better for you soon.
It's supposed to be a big storm here tonight. It doesn't look like it
when I look out of the front door, but if I looked out the back door
it's probably a different story.. but I don't want to get up :P
Will probably unplug PCs if the storm eventuates, I hate doing that, but I'd hate it worse if the one time I didn't was the time the powerlines
got hit.
thanks :) yep you and me both, I need a holiday I think...
hopefully it went ok?
I think the storm you guys have had/are having is coming our way in a
few days - eep!
don t think many people would walk into retail and buy a year old GPU
for the label price...
Also, I do barbecue all year, just that in Winter I do it in-house by putting all the foodstuff on a grill in the fireplace. If you are a BBQ lover you need to try it. Yesterday I had some ribs with baked potatoes and sauerkraut from my personal harvest. I love pouring all my hatred, pesimism and negativity out when all my stuff is fixed only :-P
claw wrote to Blue White <=-
2) other videos where there are some big knock-down drag-out fights in malls that don't appear directly related to the shopping experience, i.e. they didn't happen when the stores opened and people were fighting to get in, but rather in the common areas and food courts.
You will also find some mass shoplifting videos.
The fighting ones look more violent than anything I ever remember seeing from the old Black Friday. People having clothes ripped off, being dragged by close and hair, large groups fighting each other, etc.
I'm glad it's now more just stupid people being stupid rather than the greed of insanity going on.
Queensland is nice this time of year.. :)
Yeah, turned out to be a bit of a non-event here. No hail, and only
rained for a little bit, there was thunderstorms, but not so close that I was worried about it hitting a pole.
Well, if it's the same storm no need to worry. The one adelaide had a few days ago might be a bit different, was apparently quiet a bit of
flooding.
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