Well.

After spending 14 hours yesterday I finally moved the BBS from a very old Windows 7 Computer over to a new System. Purchased a new i7, 64 gig RAM with a 2 TB M2 SSD. Then Installed VMware ESxi 6.7 on it ... Install a clean copy of Windows 10, 32 bit. Installed a clean copy of Mystic and then just copied over everything from /Mystic directory.

Whew, what a chore.

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K4JTT wrote to All <=-

After spending 14 hours yesterday I finally moved the BBS from a very
old Windows 7 Computer over to a new System. Purchased a new i7, 64 gig RAM with a 2 TB M2 SSD. Then Installed VMware ESxi 6.7 on it ...
Install a clean copy of Windows 10, 32 bit. Installed a clean copy of Mystic and then just copied over everything from /Mystic directory.

I bet Microsoft is wondering who's running all of those copies of
32-bit Windows 10! I was running my BBS bare metal on a system with 8GB
of RAM and not using anything above 4GB, then decided to run Proxmox on
the box and virtualize the BBS under it. Worked like a charm, and I got
snapshots plus overhead to run a VM or two alongside the BBS.

By the time Windows 10 goes EOL, I should have any DOS dependencies
out of the way. Realistically, now, all that's left is the DOS app I
use for making nodelists, and I could run that just fine in a DOSBOX
window.



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Re: Major chenge over completed
By: K4JTT to All on Tue Nov 07 2023 04:50 am

After spending 14 hours yesterday I finally moved the BBS from a very old Windows 7 Computer over to

Damn, sorry for your loss.

it ... Install a clean copy of Windows 10, 32 bit. Installed a clean copy of Mystic and then just
copied over everything from /Mystic directory.

Whew, what a chore.

Insane and it just worked first time? At least there's that
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Re: Re: Major chenge over completed
By: poindexter FORTRAN to K4JTT on Tue Nov 07 2023 06:58 am

I bet Microsoft is wondering who's running all of those copies of 32-bit Windows 10! I was running
my BBS bare metal on a system with 8GB of RAM and not using anything above 4GB, then decided to run

Your message got me thinking of just how old of a machine could I get to run Mystic or Enigma, modded out, without it slowing down the experience for the users at all while still offering a fully loaded experience. The idea of building a retro machine to run a BBS is appealing but not if it results in a slow board as I'd want to run a modern board with all the bells and whistles
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Unc0nnected wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

Your message got me thinking of just how old of a machine could I get
to run Mystic or Enigma, modded out, without it slowing down the experience for the users at all while still offering a fully loaded experience. The idea of building a retro machine to run a BBS is appealing but not if it results in a slow board as I'd want to run a modern board with all the bells and whistles

Triple-digit Celerons seem to be a safe bet. I ran a Shoutcast station
and Synchronet on a Celeron 533 mhz for years, upgraded to a 1.1 ghz
Celeron and never ran into any issues on either of them.

With the right OS, they can run well in a virtual environment. I ran
the BBS in a single CPU VM with a gig of RAM using TinyXP for several
years.




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Your message got me thinking of just how old of a machine could I get to run Mystic or Enigma, modded out, without it slowing down the experience for the users at all while still offering a fully loaded experience.
The idea of building a retro machine to run a BBS is appealing but not
if it results in a slow board as I'd want to run a modern board with all the bells and whistles

Well now, this does sound link a serious challenge. I have a very old x486 DX2 66 on DOS 6.22 and Windows 98 ... OK, I am board this weekend, time to go to the garage, break out this POS and see if it fires up. going to attempt to install Mystic x32 on this puppy to see what blows up! <grin>

N4TDX BBS - Telnet: n4tdx.ddns.net:2323
FSXnet: 21:1/136 * Fidonet 1:135/383 * Micronet 618:250/35
Titusville, FL.


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I bet Microsoft is wondering who's running all of those copies of
32-bit Windows 10! I was running my BBS bare metal on a system with 8GB

I didn't even know there is 32bit WIndows 10 installation possible at all. 64bit for consumer OS started with XP I think but was absolutely niche. I believe by the time of Windows 7 it was more like equal split and by the time of Windows 10 I'd not assume any new computer that is 32bit was in sale, unless some mini, POS or SoC...

-h1

... Xerox Alto was the thing. Anything after we use is just a mere copy.

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Your message got me thinking of just how old of a machine could I get run Mystic or Enigma, modded out, without it slowing down the experie for the users at all while still offering a fully loaded experience. The idea of building a retro machine to run a BBS is appealing but no if it results in a slow board as I'd want to run a modern board with the bells and whistles

Well now, this does sound link a serious challenge. I have a very old
x486 DX2 66 on DOS 6.22 and Windows 98 ... OK, I am board this
weekend, time to go to the garage, break out this POS and see if it
fires up. going to attempt to install Mystic x32 on this puppy to see
what blows up! <grin>

Just send me the IP and tell me when I to call! There's a few boards running on retro hardware and scanning for new messages takes forever so I know
there's definitely a point when the hardware can't keep up but I'd love to
walk that line.

We're you the original owner of that 486 and kept it this whole time or did
you inherit it after the fact? Either way I'd love to hear the story behind that machine!

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Your message got me thinking of just how old of a machine could I get to run Mystic or Enigma, modded out, without it slowing down the experience for the users at all while still offering a fully loaded experience. The idea of building a retro machine to run a BBS is appealing but not if it results in a slow board as I'd want to run a modern board with all the bells and whistles

Triple-digit Celerons seem to be a safe bet. I ran a Shoutcast station
and Synchronet on a Celeron 533 mhz for years, upgraded to a 1.1 ghz
Celeron and never ran into any issues on either of them.

With the right OS, they can run well in a virtual environment. I ran
the BBS in a single CPU VM with a gig of RAM using TinyXP for several
years.

Good to know, I was thinking actually thinking 200mhz would do it be probably not. Would love to run it on a 486 if that would cut it. Out of curiosity
are any of the modern BBS's multi-threaded?

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Your message got me thinking of just how old of a machine could I get run Mystic or Enigma, modded out, without it slowing down the experie for the users at all while still offering a fully loaded experience.

Well now, this does sound link a serious challenge. I have a very old
x486 DX2 66 on DOS 6.22 and Windows 98 ... OK, I am board this
weekend, time to go to the garage, break out this POS and see if it
fires up. going to attempt to install Mystic x32 on this puppy to see
what blows up! <grin>

Curious to hear how that went for you

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