Anyone use these?
Anyone use these?
I bought and older (2017) celeron the other day for a good price, looks like running anything other than Windows 10 on it may be an issue :(
Anyone use these?
Anyone use these?
I bought and older (2017) celeron the other day for a good price, looks like running anything other than Windows 10 on it may be an issue :(
Anyone use these?
I bought and older (2017) celeron the other day for a good price, looks like running anything other than Windows 10 on it may be an issue :(
Anyone use these?
I bought and older (2017) celeron the other day for a good price, looks like running anything other than Windows 10 on it may be an issue :(
I've owned several and have been rather pleased. I've always used linux, though.
Avon wrote to All <=-
Anyone use these?
I bought and older (2017) celeron the other day for a good price, looks like running anything other than Windows 10 on it may be an issue :(
Anyone use these?
I bought an older (2017) celeron the other day for a good price, looks like running anything other than Windows 10 on it may be an issue :(
My company has a hundred and fifty NUCs running Ubuntu Linux.
Anyone use these? I bought and older (2017) celeron the other day for a good price, looks like running anything other than Windows 10 on it may be an issue :(
I have a very NUC on a stick version that served me well, but was very minimalistic.
Seems the NUC as a brand had more than one owner?
Anyone use these?
I bought and older (2017) celeron the other day for a good price,
looks like running anything other than Windows 10 on it may be an
issue :(
I would like to have one of these to tinker with, would you be
interested in selling yours if you are not going to be using it?
I would actually, but I'm guessing you're not in Australia, and I would say it'd probably cost you less to get one from ebay in your own country.
If you're really keen I can probably find out how much postage would
cost.
Anyone use these?
I bought and older (2017) celeron the other day for a good price, loo like running anything other than Windows 10 on it may be an issue :(
I have a NUC (NUC10i7FNH) here running VMWare ESXi. I have 4 Linux VMs running on it (one being this Mystic install). So far it hasn't given
any issues. I even have a USB to serial adapter & USR 56k modem plugged into it.
I bought a NUC6CAYH which has a Celeron J3455, 8 gig ram and a 240 SSD
I'm hoping to use it for my radio station as part of a STL to my TX
site.
Anyway I'll sort this NUC out first but the goal is to reduce my power footprint of PC's running in the house. There';s currently four running 24/7
Hi Avon,
On Saturday August 12 2023, Avon said to All:
You really need to look at Virtualization. You should be able to make all your system's vm's, except for the radio station one... Doing that would bring your pc footprint down to only two machines online 24/7 then.
candycane wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
Have you suggested to them to switch to Debian?
I'm not sure what the benefit would be, and how it would offset
rebuilding our dev environment and 150 remote NUCs.
Re: Re: Intel NUCsAl,
By: Vorlon to Avon on Sun Aug 13 2023 10:50 am
Hi Avon,
On Saturday August 12 2023, Avon said to All:
You really need to look at Virtualization. You should be able to make all your system's vm's, except for the radio station one... Doing that would bring your pc footprint down to only two machines online 24/7 then.
I can attest to what Vorlon is saying, I had at one time 7 PC's running different BBS', Servers, etc. I now only have 1 PC running 7 different VM's which handle all of my BBS', Network Hubs, Door Server, etc.. Makes for a much easier and smaller footprint at least for me. I run a Ryzen 5 machine with 128gigs or RAM, and 6 total TB's of HD space.. I use Proxmox to handle all of my VM's.. It's something to look at..
AL
You might find that being a celeron cpu, it's not going to have the
grunt to do what you want. It's got limited cache, 1.5Ghz base
frequency. Suprising that it's got 4 cores though...
You really need to look at Virtualization. You should be able to make all your system's vm's, except for the radio station one... Doing that would bring your pc footprint down to only two machines online 24/7 then.
Have you suggested to them to switch to Debian?
I'm not sure what the benefit would be, and how it would offset
rebuilding our dev environment and 150 remote NUCs.
My Dreamhost server is due to be switched from Debian to Ubuntu when it gets replaced in about a month, for whatever reason.
Which makes me wonder if the industry is trending in the opposite direction, for whatever reasons.
You really need to look at Virtualization. You should be able to make
all your system's vm's, except for the radio station one... Doing that
would bring your pc footprint down to only two machines online 24/7
then.
I can attest to what Vorlon is saying, I had at one time 7 PC's running different BBS', Servers, etc. I now only have 1 PC running 7 different VM's which handle all of my BBS', Network Hubs, Door Server, etc..
Makes for a much easier and smaller footprint at least for me. I run a Ryzen 5 machine with 128gigs or RAM, and 6 total TB's of HD space.. I
use Proxmox to handle all of my VM's.. It's something to look at..
You might find that being a celeron cpu, it's not going to have the
grunt to do what you want. It's got limited cache, 1.5Ghz base
frequency. Suprising that it's got 4 cores though...
This is likely to be fine in this case, I'm wanting to use it to run a
STL link to the radio station TX site. But yeah, take your point.
You really need to look at Virtualization. You should be able to make
all your system's vm's, except for the radio station one... Doing that
would bring your pc footprint down to only two machines online 24/7
then.
I need some training / guidance on all of this, this is true.
My Dreamhost server is due to be switched from Debian to Ubuntu when it gets replaced in about a month, for whatever reason.
You really need to look at Virtualization. You should be able to make your system's vm's, except for the radio station one... Doing that wo bring your pc footprint down to only two machines online 24/7 then.
I need some training / guidance on all of this, this is true.
Plus there is the added feature of just having everything in one place. I use proxmox in production on two servers. It works well. MY home server
is still on ESXi though.. I'd have to take everything down to to test
and it's a pain (I need hardware passthough).
Also the added thing of backing uo the vm's.. It's built into the system. I've tested the backup's on a different box, and they have worked 99% of the time. The main thing that needs fixing is the boot process. That's quickly fixed by booting a iso in restore/recovery mode and
re-installing grub (When linux)...
Yeah, I personally am opposed to Ubuntu..
I've changed all my VPSs to Ubuntu Server, though I was a long term
Debian loyalist. The reasons really are that Ubuntu has more up-to-date packages, and I haven't dealt with any stability issues. Seems like it
Yeah, I personally am opposed to Ubuntu..
Why?
I need some training / guidance on all of this, this is true.
It's very simple Avon, Easiest way to get started is Youtube, watch some vids on Proxmox and go from there.. I started out with QEMU/KVM in Linux, but eventually moved to a Proxmox server, it was easier and less resources being used..
Give it a try, you might just like it.. :)
Just like morally, with the snaps and stuff. Also I don't like gnome-desktop. Debian is fine.
I bought and older (2017) celeron the other day for a good price, looks like running anything other than Windows 10 on it may be an issue :(
Xpenology on it. Works like a charm, so in addition to my real Synology,
I have an Xpenology on my BBS machine network, which handles daily
backups of all the VM's and Proxmox handles weekly Image backups of all
the VM's. The backup software in Proxmox is outstanding!! Saved my butt
... They say there's always one weirdo on the bus, but I couldn't find them!
[...]I need some training / guidance on all of this, this is true.
I've had it running on old, broken laptops. Currently I've got a
handful of old micro SFF office PCs with modest specs. Definitely
youtube for some tutorials.
lime
I bought and older (2017) celeron the other day for a good price, looks
like running anything other than Windows 10 on it may be an issue :(
Maybe? Where do you buy your PC's? Let me put that question to all. Where do you buy your PC's and Laptops?
Maybe? Where do you buy your PC's? Let me put that question to all. Where do you buy your PC's and Laptops?
Maybe? Where do you buy your PC's? Let me put that question to all.
Where do you buy your PC's and Laptops?
That said, I prefer Ubuntu Server for all my headless instances.
Re: Re: Intel NUCs
By: esc to candycane on Tue Aug 15 2023 03:13 pm
That said, I prefer Ubuntu Server for all my headless instances.
Alright, good luck.
candycane
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I bought and older (2017) celeron the other day for a good price, loo like running anything other than Windows 10 on it may be an issue :(
Maybe? Where do you buy your PC's? Let me put that question to all. Where do you buy your PC's and Laptops?
Adept wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
(And, that said, I'm canceling my Dreamhost account toward the end of
this month, so I won't see the change, anyway, for whatever difference that makes to anything.)
Bucko wrote to Avon <=-
It's very simple Avon, Easiest way to get started is Youtube, watch
some vids on Proxmox and go from there.. I started out with QEMU/KVM in Linux, but eventually moved to a Proxmox server, it was easier and less resources being used..
For my main PC at home, I still tend to like to build my own desktop PC, but lately I've been buying the parts from Amazon and Newegg. For
(And, that said, I'm canceling my Dreamhost account toward the end of this month, so I won't see the change, anyway, for whatever differenc that makes to anything.)
Sorry to hear you're leaving - I've been a customer for coming on 10
years now. What prompted you to leave?
esc wrote to HusTler <=-
The past three computers I've bought new, I bought direct from manufacturers. Lenovo, System76, and Apple.
Slackware!! Best and most stable!
I deliberately avoid going to Amazon. And generally pay a price to do so, with varying levels of success.
But it's a challenge. There are a variety of things I really dislike with Amazon (on a per-purchase basis, rather than a general, "this is bad" sense, like their forcing people to have higher prices on their own sites.).
E.g., how they'll bin products. So you can have one reputable supplier, and one scummy supplier. Neither pays the extra fee to separately bin their products. Scummy supplier gives product that's of lower quality / less tested / whatever. Reputable supplier does not.
Person orders, choosing the reputable supplier, but is given one of the items from the scummy supplier.
I am currently using a 10-year-old Lenovo (T510) laptop that I love and am reluctant to replace, but am creeping into the window where I will need to do so. I've often said I'd not buy anything but another Lenovo, but am
Hi Bucko,
I'm only useing the vzdump/qmrestore cli programs for my backup's with some simple scripts that change a couple of setting on backup. Ie: local to another drive in the server dedicated to the backup's or to a remote site for off-site backup.
Seconded. If you have any experience with hypervisors, picking up
Proxmox is a breeze.
I am currently using a 10-year-old Lenovo (T510) laptop that I love and am reluctant to replace, but am creeping into the window where I will
need to do so. I've often said I'd not buy anything but another
Lenovo, but am curious how you've liked the System76 (and whether it's
a laptop or a desktop). Have heard good things about them, and that they're Linux-friendly. Would like to hear your thoughts on that, thanks.
Hi Bucko, I'm only useing the vzdump/qmrestore cli programs for my
backup's with some simple scripts that change a couple of setting on
backup. Ie: local to another drive in the server dedicated to the
backup's or to a remote site for off-site backup.
I use the Proxmox built in image backup, works like a charm. Although, I have been told that the Proxmox Backup server is really outstanding. I
It's very simple Avon, Easiest way to get started is Youtube, watch some vids on Proxmox and go from there.. I started out with QEMU/KVM in Linux, but eventually moved to a Proxmox server, it was easier and less resources being used..Al,
Give it a try, you might just like it.. :)
AL
Hi Bucko,Hello,
On Wednesday August 16 2023, Bucko said to Vorlon:
Hi Bucko, I'm only useing the vzdump/qmrestore cli programs for my
backup's with some simple scripts that change a couple of setting on
backup. Ie: local to another drive in the server dedicated to the
backup's or to a remote site for off-site backup.
I use the Proxmox built in image backup, works like a charm. Although, I have been told that the Proxmox Backup server is really outstanding. I
That's what I'm doing.. Have not looked at the proxmox backup server, as it's just adding more complex layers that I don't need.
\/orlon
aka
Stephen
esc wrote to Gamgee <=-
I am currently using a 10-year-old Lenovo (T510) laptop that I love and
am reluctant to replace, but am creeping into the window where I will
need to do so. I've often said I'd not buy anything but another
Lenovo, but am curious how you've liked the System76 (and whether it's
a laptop or a desktop). Have heard good things about them, and that they're Linux-friendly. Would like to hear your thoughts on that, thanks.
Great question, and one I'll do my best to answer.
First off, my Lenovo is a Carbon X1 gen 8. It's lightweight, ultraportable, powerful, reliable, has long battery life, and
probably the all-time best keyboard in a laptop.
My Sys76 machine is an Oryx Pro 10. This machine is specc'd
pretty high. It has a 20 core 12 gen i7-12700H, 64gb RAM, Intel
iGPU, NVIDIA RTX 3080 Ti Mobile. This machine is bigger, heavier,
the fans run incessantly, but man...it has some horsepower.
Lately I've been using this one pretty much nonstop.
My general thoughts on the matter are, the Lenovo feels like a
better machine. The build quality, keyboard, etc., are all
amazing. There are no dead pixels, the audio is better, it's all
around just a better machine. What it lacks is a discreet GPU,
frankly, and that's what the Sys76 provides.
I think if you're happy with your Lenovo, I'd probably stick with
them. The customer support is quite a bit better, and I think
your track record of owning one without problems for so long
speaks for itself.
Now, one manufacturer I'd like to look into more deeply is
frame.work - have you seen those? They seem pretty slick.
Just like morally, with the snaps and stuff. Also I don't like gnome-desktop. Debian is fine.
FWIW it's pretty easy to remove snaps entirely and there are many desktop choices. For example I always opt for Kubuntu (KDE Plasma) if using a desktop installation.
Rocking FSXnet with an Amiga 4000 and Zeus BBS.
Thanks a lot for the helpful reply!
Just like morally, with the snaps and stuff. Also I don't like gnome-desktop
For my main PC at home, I still tend to like to build my own desktop PC, but he options & specs to your liking and they'll build it and ship it to you.
Slackware!! Best and most stable!
Hi Bucko,
That's what I'm doing.. Have not looked at the proxmox backup server, as it's just adding more complex layers that I don't need.
\/orlon
Slackware!! Best and most stable!
Well, I haven't used it. Wouldn't know.
Slackware is quite good as a presonal server or workstation, but their release engineering does suck so much.
People has a knack for buying modern gear and then making it run slower than old gear, too. I don t think there is much of a performance difference for desktop oriented task between an old computer or a new computer these days. Outside of gaming and graphics, that is.
That's what I'm doing.. Have not looked at the proxmox backup server, as
it's just adding more complex layers that I don't need.
My current backup is simple. I do a full stop VM backup that goes directly onto my QNAP NAS through an NFS mount within Proxmox. I have
had a major crash of my Renegade BBS while i was on vacation in Pennsylvania and i was able to get a VM restore within 10 minutes so it seems to be a great solution. I also do additional backups at the file level within each VM for redundancy. I forgot to mention that the VM
backup is weekly.
it to 600 and then 500.. So i picked it up for $500. It comes with
Windows 2019 Datacenter and Vsphere licenses. I saw it running and everything seems to be working. Hopefully as i recover more from
surgery, I will be able to get it up and running. :)
Hi Bucko, That's what I'm doing.. Have not looked at the proxmox
backup server, as it's just adding more complex layers that I don't
need.
I hear ya, my son mentioned it to me, he is supposedly running it at his house. I need to get there to see what he has going on though.. LOL
1. Modern linux (probably ubuntu server or similar)
2. Windows 7 32bit (for doorgames, etc)
3. Some stripped down linux kernel to strictly
launch an Amiga emulator
So basically, this would be proxmox with three VMs, right? Can someone recommend some sort of hardware for this?
It's worth mentioning that 1) above would need a bit of horsepower for doing compiles and stuff.
That said, I get why people may get Ubuntu for production. Ubuntu has a company behind from which you may buy support, and if you are sysadmining for a firm you can tell your boss that if anything goes wrong, you can hold a third party responsible up to a point. The alternative to Ubuntu,
Slackware is engineered by fans of the KISS principle, so even if new software is included, it is included in a KISS way (so maybe you have modern components for subsystems, but they are not organized in a complex way).
Do you know that you don't have to stop the vm's to do a backup?Vorlon,
My longest backup takes 15 minutes, and that is to long to have it offline as it's needed by clients to access.
My server's are 70 miles and 620 miles away, so everything is done remotly!
When data doesn't change that often then a weekkly is fine... When data chages on a more regular matter, then it needs to be more often...Yeah.. I do have the Server 2019 Datacenter license but i have not seen any VMWare license but i believe ESXi can be installed for free. I am pretty good at windows and for now i am just testing but i may reinstall or change over to ESXi with 2019 as a VM or Perhaps Proxmox. I am not sure if it will detect all of the hardware. That is what i am nervous about as i am not a Linux Expert. It has 24 DIMM slots and there is 58gb RAM right now. I plan on buying 16GB DIMMS until i get to 384gb RAM. 16gb DIMMS are pretty cheap. The seller has a ton of 4gb DIMMS in there.. I will slowly replace them as i replace them. I also plan on just buying 2gb SATA SSD drives. there is 7 SAS/SATA slots available. I dont think i need more than that for now. I have a QNAP with 21TB of space and an old Dlink NAS with 12TB.. lol I also forgot that my Proxmox has 4tb. lol WOW THIS IS GETTING LONG!!!!! lol
The shortest time here between backup's is 6hours, with the next being 12 and 24 hours.
it to 600 and then 500.. So i picked it up for $500. It comes with Windows 2019 Datacenter and Vsphere licenses. I saw it running and everything seems to be working. Hopefully as i recover more from surgery, I will be able to get it up and running. :)
Good job at getting it at a lower price. Do you have the license key's?
I'd blow the software away and re-install just to be on the safe side...
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Stephen
Adept wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
That said, I decided to leave when they decided to stop supporting catchall e-mail addresses. And, for a while, were suggesting that
people move stuff onto Google solutions, for e-mail.
But out of laziness, since switching servers is a pain, I kept the account, and they would raise the prices, and eventually tell me that I needed to pay for more memory, because 300mb is basically not enough to run anything.
Well, I've basically been wasting around $20/month because I hadn't
moved everything over to a server that gave me more control and more resources, for less money.
esc wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
1. Modern linux (probably ubuntu server or similar)
2. Windows 7 32bit (for doorgames, etc)
3. Some stripped down linux kernel to strictly launch an Amiga emulator
So basically, this would be proxmox with three VMs, right? Can someone recommend some sort of hardware for this?
Gamgee wrote to esc <=-
I am currently using a 10-year-old Lenovo (T510) laptop that I love and
am reluctant to replace
poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Gamgee <=-
Gamgee wrote to esc <=-
I am currently using a 10-year-old Lenovo (T510) laptop that I love and
am reluctant to replace
Why replace it? with 8GB of RAM and an SSD, the x10 units are
pretty decent, if heavy.
I have a T410 that I love - one of the last Thinkpads with that
great keyboard.
... UNPRISON YOUR THINK RHINO
Good luck... I did read up on the backup server, but prefer to stick to how I'm doing things. Plus why change something that's working... It was setup before the backup server was released.
I can say the same about there mail gateway setup.. It's lacking some features and options that my current setup performs even with it's dated UI.
I have a T410 that I love - one of the last Thinkpads with that great keyboard.
Do you know that you don't have to stop the vm's to do a backup?
My longest backup takes 15 minutes, and that is to long to have it
I dont mind bringin those things down as they are not not mission critical for anything. They mostly run the BBSs and my BBS website. My Linux server is another thing. That does run my WordPress Server and my
Good job at getting it at a lower price. Do you have the license key's?Yeah.. I do have the Server 2019 Datacenter license but i have not seen
I'd blow the software away and re-install just to be on the safe side...
any VMWare license but i believe ESXi can be installed for free. I am
pretty good at windows and for now i am just testing but i may reinstall
or change over to ESXi with 2019 as a VM or Perhaps Proxmox. I am not
sure if it will detect all of the hardware. That is what i am nervous
Ok. Just thought I'd put it out there, that they can be kept running during the backup.
to figure out is using Rsync with Windows Server.. I want to mirror my QNAP NAS. I am currently using Rsync between my QNAP and old dlink NAS (bought in 2004). i would like to transfer that job to the new server. Data redundancy is priority as i do not trust QNAP's security fully.
I recently updated my QNAP because the original one lost access to 3 off the disks - which I havent yet debugged why.
But on my new (and old QNAP) - I actually ran TrueNAS, and it works a treat. TrueNAS is on a USB stick (well two, mirrored) - and all I did was pick up the drives into the new QNAP and up and running.
Data backup is important for me to - my QNAP is my backup target for all the things I do at home (and on cloud machines). I use restic for all that, with minio on the qnap storing all those backups...
For my important files on the QNAP, I restic to another drive in the QNAP, dedicated for backups, which replicates out nightly to pCloud. Restic does that job too - so I dont have to worry about copy bloat or encryption (its all taken care of).
...δεσ∩Deon,
Any NUC worth their weight should run it. An Ultra-small form factor PC would make a nice small server. If space isn't a concern, any desktop or laptop from the past couple of years would do nicely.
I started running Proxmox on a Thinkpad T450 with a mobile i5 and 20
megs of RAM and it does nicely. I'm moving my workloads to a desktop
with a 6th gen i5, 32 GB of RAM and a NVMe SSD, and it barely breaks a sweat with a handful of containers, 2 Ubuntu VMs, and the BBS.
You wouldn't think a laptop would make a great server, but it's worked fine, it was $15 with a broken keyboard, and my home lab started off
with all cast-off components that were free or parts-only.
copies of all my data now. I wont let that happen again!!! I am not familiar with restic. Is it good?
They pissed me off when they stopped supporting mail forwarding on local mailboxes. I used to forward my email off to gmail but liked having a local copy as a backup.
Interesting. I've never had any complaints except for the odd email
about high memory usage when I was running a photo gallery and it was doing a lot of rendering/thumbnail generation. I'm on a shared server, though.
I got grandfathered in at $11/month for a shared plan, it's mostly
worth it because I can spin up a wordpress site in a couple of minutes
-- and I'm not looking forward to moving my "permanent" sites.
I'm a fan of restic, been using it for a couple of years now. It only backs up changed files, as well as compressing and encrypting those backups to a target - where that target can be a drive, another machine running restic, or an S3 target. (There are probably a couple of other options there too).
I use the S3 target (using minio on the QNAP running TrueNas), as well as to another drive. So I can restore back to a point in time depending on how many days I leave in the respository.
It also supports multiple OS'es, so it backs up my windows, mac, pi's and linux guests.
You can also fuse mount backups, so it appears as a mount point - I havent used that (only for the lack of needing it).I use Docker a lot also. it is running on an Ubuntu Server within Proxmox and i do the Proxmox image backup for those. I actually have containers running on my QNAP that i think need a backup. lol There is a backup feature in the QNAP container app but it is manually done. I think Portainer can back them up also. I am not a linux expert but i am learning. :) I usually do many backups from within each container. the service that is running usually has a quick way of backing up settings.
Since I use docker extensively, I use docker labels + a cron script to backup individual containers (and pausing them during the backup), or to dump the database when a container is a DB.
Its saved me a couple of times...
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On 17 Aug 2023, Arelor said the following...
Slackware is quite good as a presonal server or workstation, but their release engineering does suck so much.
so you don't like Slackware. you don't have to hide it.
there's an endless parade of people who say all the exact same things you sa over and over. they stop using Slackware and they go away. and Slackware per
it's funny cause most of the posts i see amount to screaming "i'm lazy!" or
I'm not sure if I've seen an example of someone making a newer computer run fast system.
Oh, so the distro's based on stability like Debian? Sounds pretty neat, I mi
Stability is certainly a goal. Since the distribution has less components than Debian, it usually ships with non outdated software on release.
Thanks a lot for the helpful reply!
My pleasure! Glad I was able to be of service. Cheers.
Good luck... I did read up on the backup server, but prefer to stick
to how I'm doing things. Plus why change something that's working...
It was setup before the backup server was released. I can say the same
I will play around with it, if it backs up my Linux VM's with no issues, (Active Backup For Business doesn't like Debian 12) I will give it a
shot, if it is something I don't want to pursue, I just delete the VM..
LOL
[...]Ok. Just thought I'd put it out there, that they can be kept running
during the backup.
I may give it a try with the Windows VMs. I am ignorant to the fine
old dlink NAS (bought in 2004). i would like to transfer that job to the new server. Data redundancy is priority as i do not trust QNAP's
security fully.
Following up to our previous conversation about Lenovo/System76...
Well, I was drooling excessively while looking at that System76 website, and finally the wife felt sorry for me and told me to proceed. ;-)
Hi Bucko,
I'm sure it will do the backup's fine with no issues...
We all have different requirements, and wants in a backup system.
esc wrote to Gamgee <=-
Following up to our previous conversation about Lenovo/System76...
Well, I was drooling excessively while looking at that System76 website, and finally the wife felt sorry for me and told me to proceed. ;-)
Awesome! And those specs are nasty, this is gonna be a great
computer.
What OS are you planning to run? Are you going to do gaming
stuff?
Let me know how it goes! I'm typing this from my System76 Oryx
Pro 10 as we speak :P It runs Baldur's Gate 3 and Grand Theft
Auto V well, which is really all I need hehe. Oh, and the
Civilization games as well...
I'm sure you'll be pleased. Congrats on the acquisition :)
It'll be running Slackware Linux, no doubt about that. It's pretty much all I use, although I have a mini-computer here running MX Linux which I
like pretty well. I may break down and drop a Windows (7) partition on this one for some gaming, as well. Can't wait to get it!
It'll be running Slackware Linux, no doubt about that. It's pretty much all I use, although I have a mini-computer here running MX Linux which
Do you think it could run on a raspberry pi?
candycane wrote to Gamgee <=-
Re: Re: Intel NUCs
By: Gamgee to esc on Mon Aug 21 2023 07:27 am
It'll be running Slackware Linux, no doubt about that. It's pretty much all I use, although I have a mini-computer here running MX Linux which I
Do you think it could run on a raspberry pi?
It'll be running Slackware Linux, no doubt about that. It's pretty much all I use, although I have a mini-computer here running MX Linux which I like pretty well. I may break down and drop a Windows (7) partition on this one for some gaming, as well. Can't wait to get it!
Win7 is super nostalgic to me, I wish I could find an install disk for
it.
esc wrote to Gamgee <=-
It'll be running Slackware Linux, no doubt about that. It's pretty much all I use, although I have a mini-computer here running MX Linux which I like pretty well. I may break down and drop a Windows (7) partition on this one for some gaming, as well. Can't wait to get it!
Nice!
FYI System76 writes their own tools and drivers and things for
their OpenFirmware computers. I've had luck with Ubuntu, Pop_OS,
and Arch. I haven't tried Slackware but let me know if you need
any help with anything.
I used to run Slackware on one of the early Raspberri Pis and it worked fine.
Slackware has an ARM port still going so it should be doable:
If your new server has hardware virtulation support, then one option could be to pass the hd controller (ie: a LSI sata/sas card) through to a VM running either trunas or nas4free... Then make a ZFS raid mirror from the drives...
It will give you more controll than a dedicate nas box ever will.
\/orlon
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Stephen
Win7 is super nostalgic to me, I wish I could find an install disk
for it.
Just google "windows 7 archive.org" and your prayers will be answered :P
Just google "windows 7 archive.org" and your prayers will be answered
Does it come with keys?
Does it come with keys?
[...]If your new server has hardware virtulation support, then one option
Yes.. it has Virtualization support. It is a dell PowerEdge T630.
a mix.. Run VMs on the SSDs and use HDDs for mass storage. Hopefully in
a couple of weeks i will start moving things to it. :) I hear TrueNAS is
a great OS to run.
Does it come with keys?
You can get by quite satisfactorily without keys for Win7...
nag you, but didn't know that about Windows 7. But hasn't Windows had product activation since Windows XP? I thought if you didn't have a serial
nag you, but didn't know that about Windows 7. But hasn't Windows had
product activation since Windows XP? I thought if you didn't have a
serial
I thought it was from Win95.
VT-x is the actual hardware virtualisation assistance - absolute
necessary, whereas VT-d allows you direct passthrough of devices,
such as PCI devices, not essential in PC environments but nice to have
when running server (vSphere server where you need RAID cards
passed through directly to the guest etc.).
\/orlonVorlon,
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Stephen
Rocking FSXnet with an Amiga 4000 and Zeus BBS.
I know for Windows 8.1-11, there are certain features disabled and it will nag you, but didn't know that about Windows 7. But hasn't Windows had
also plan on setting up a few more Linux servers for testing. I like to crash and burn on new things before i set them up on VM's that i care
about because they often have things i care about on them. :) Right now
i am trying to determine if my Server 2019 Datacenter license is able to
be upgraded to Server 2022 for free. I have heard mixed things. Most
likely i will just upgrade and see how it turns out. I am also not sure
if the upgrade will benefit me at all. :)
I hear you... I've attempted to update a Debian 11 system to 12 three times now and something always borks the install or fails outright... And yes I'm not workin on the production VM, but one of it's restored backups.
It should be able to be upgraded.. One thing that's annoying is MS hase made it more win10/11 in look.... %-/
In the past I've blown away the current install, and done a new fresh one...
\/orlon
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Stephen
Vorlon wrote to DaveW <=-
VT-x is the actual hardware virtualisation assistance - absolute necessary, whereas VT-d allows you direct passthrough of devices,
such as PCI devices, not essential in PC environments but nice to have when running server (vSphere server where you need RAID cards
passed through directly to the guest etc.).
I cant count the times i borked some server setup that i was learning.
So i just install onto a test VM and once it is working and i can
replicate it properly, I do it on a production server. My terms are
funny because productions is just some tools i use. It is mostly just a home lab. :)
It should be able to be upgraded.. One thing that's annoying is MS have
made it more win10/11 in look.... %-/
Not sure what i did wrong but i setup a VM of Server 2022 and tried to
use the license and it didnt work. That is weird because my reading says
cheap on Amazon and Ebay. Right now i have dual 2650s. I am still kind
of undecided on whether i want to use Proxmox as my main OS or Server
2019 Datacenter. What are your thoughts??
VT-x is the actual hardware virtualisation assistance - absolute
necessary, whereas VT-d allows you direct passthrough of devices, such
as PCI devices, not essential in PC environments but nice to have when
running server (vSphere server where you need RAID cards passed
through directly to the guest etc.).
Good to know - I was never sure about the difference.
I'd go with Proxmox. Unless you know a heap of powershell, then you want to learn more linux, so go proxmox.Vorlon,
\/orlon
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Stephen
NUC?
Yup, my main server is a NUC. I run ESXi on it - which gives me a web console to it, and makes it easier to run VMs. Proxmox would probably do the job as well, but I've never used it.
My NUC runs about 6 or so machines, but I have many others defined on there that I've started to try something out...
I'd go with Proxmox. Unless you know a heap of powershell, then you want
to learn more linux, so go proxmox.
i am far from an expert with PowerShell. When i got my MCSE years
ago, it was before Powershell.. I can get by a little bit if needed. I think i am going with Proxmox as soon as I get some storage to put this
to use. :)
You will be able to get your head around proxmox.. Your curently doing things with your limited system now, so it's just easy to transfer... Going with a ms based product means learning from scratch.
You will be able to get your head around proxmox.. Your curently doing
things with your limited system now, so it's just easy to transfer...
Going with a ms based product means learning from scratch.
I am getting familiar with Proxmox. I recently upgraded my current Proxmox Server to version 8.
I would like to become more familiar with Proxmox from the terminal though. Right now i am doing almost everything D> from the GUI. I guess it is finally a first where i can say that I am
more comfortable with the Linux solution rather than the Windows
solution.
Yeah, upgrading Proxmox is one of the most easy/stable upgrade process's I've seen.Vorlon,
As it's based on Debian, most things that relate to Debian apply. There are things that need doing in the shell, that the GUI can't do. A lot of them are backend related items.
Yeah, upgrading Proxmox is one of the most easy/stable upgrade process'sYes.. it went very smooth. I was very nervous though because I
I've seen.
never did this and was afraid of breaking everything!!!! Luckily it went very smooth. I know I had to setup some update library for those who do
not have a subscription. Overall it was a smooth upgrade.
The other thing i would love to learn is some javascript code that
will work with my SynchroNet BBS. I would love to write a few small
things. Just to know that i was able to do it. :)
That's just a matter of a apt line... I chnage that right after installing, as I'm not using the "enterprise/subscription" system either.Vorlon,
Re: Re: Intel NUCs[...]
By: Vorlon to DaveW on Mon Sep 18 2023 10:27 am
That's just a matter of a apt line... I chnage that right after
installing,
as I'm not using the "enterprise/subscription" system either.
Everything is a learning process. I recently got my Dell PowerEdge
My day job also gets in the way of my hobby.. I guess the only difference between my job and my hobby is that my hobby allows me to
work on the computers that are mine. lol
To often day job get's in the way! #-0; But part of my day job is also playing around and tinkering with systems.... Ie: Lately has been testing upgrade process from one software version to the next... At the OS level.Hello,
Then there is also tinkering with new options idea's in AmiDeb my Amiga emulation system. ( https://amiga.vk3heg.net )
At home, right now i have been going insane over getting
SynchroNet working with AmigaNet. I have been going insane because it
isn't working and i am not getting any errors.. UGH!!! lol The things i enjoy make me insane sometimes!!! hahahahaha
You Amiganet messages did escape from your system, and there was even a few replys to them... I would have responded myself, but got beeten to the punch line.
You should just be able to mirror the fsx/fido settings, but use amiga net address... They are alfter all using the same technology.
[...]You should just be able to mirror the fsx/fido settings, but use amiga
net address... They are alfter all using the same technology.
I finally got it working. I was using FSXNet and TQWNet as a
groups when i needed to use the internal code. On the other networks I setup, these Items were the same.
Like my earlier message, it is the fun in figuring these things out.
:)
That's the fun thing about this technology! It might be dated, but there are still things to work out. Once you get things going, it's then just a matter of keeping things in order and small tweeks to the system.
\/orlonHello,
aka
Stephen
That's the fun thing about this technology! It might be dated, but there
are still things to work out. Once you get things going, it's then just a
matter of keeping things in order and small tweeks to the system.
Hello,
Whether it is new tech or old tech, figuring things out and
learning is always fun!!!
If you break it, you get all the bits that fell on the floor and then it's your problem.... %-;hahahahaha!! I will just vacuum them up!!!! :)
\/orlon
aka
Stephen
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