BUT I am looking for recommendations on a better way to manage downlinks for points... Typically, I run something like Mystic or Synchronet as the "main" bbs, as it makes handling downlinks pretty straightforward with
its admin interface. Talisman actually makes it easy, too, just with
text files.
I was wondering if there was a way to run the front-end (e.g.
routing to the BBS main and points) *without* it running through a specific BBS, as that BBS software may change at some point. Something tells me there's a way, perhaps running as my own personal hub using
Husky or something?
Something tells me there's a way, perhaps running as my own personal hub Al> using Husky or something?
I was wondering if there was a way to run the front-end (e.g.
routing to the BBS main and points) *without* it running through a
specific BBS, as that BBS software may change at some point. Something tells me there's a way, perhaps running as my own personal hub using
Husky or something?
I was wondering if there was a way to run the front-end (e.g.
routing to the BBS main and points) *without* it running through a specific BBS, as that BBS software may change at some point. Something tells me there's a way, perhaps running as my own personal hub using Husky or something?
Yes, use a standalone tosser, this was the common setup in the olden days.Husky hpt would be one solution. Simpler to configure is Squish, Crashmail IIor FMail (if you have a Windows machine for the FMail config app. The tosseritself runs on Linux, but the config app is not ported
yet AFAIK).
Thanks Oli. Going to play around with Husky, as I have a couple mins experience with it!
Thanks Oli. Going to play around with Husky, as I have a couple mins experience with it!
I hope you have a few hours :)
Yeah, seems like a big lack of documentation and examples with some of this older software - heh. I spent about an hour going through the husky
Yeah, seems like a big lack of documentation and examples with some of this older software - heh. I spent about an hour going through the husky project repo and ancient docs time-stamped from the 1990's on sourceforge or whatever, and I'm like "maybe I'll just use Mystic to handle my downlinks" - lol
The docs are about. I've found some modules are better documented than others.This chap in Italy posted a lot of them to his server
http://mimac.bizzi.org/huskydocs/ http://mimac.bizzi.org/huskydocs/fidoconf/fidoconfig.html http://mimac.bizzi.org/huskydocs/hpt/hpt.html
The docs are about. I've found some modules are better documented tha others.This chap in Italy posted a lot of them to his server
http://mimac.bizzi.org/huskydocs/ http://mimac.bizzi.org/huskydocs/fidoconf/fidoconfig.html http://mimac.bizzi.org/huskydocs/hpt/hpt.html
I usually use the wiki on the GitHub page. It's pretty up-to-date.
https://github.com/huskyproject/hpt/wiki
Thanks Oli. Going to play around with Husky, as I have a couple mins experience with it!
Good luck. It's still a mystery to me why everybody wants to use such complicated and badly documented piece of software for distributing a bunch of mails. Survival of the weirdest (software) ... ;)
Actually it probably is a steep learning curve, but once setup it works reallywell. I dont touch the hub other than to add new link (which is a few lines,which I hope to oneday automate fully).
The documentation on github is pretty good, yes some options are a bit cryptic,but a post in the HUSKY echo normally gets an answer quickly.
Hmm, since Paul has nothing to do, maybe he can spin up a new "Husky Guy" YouTube channel and show us all how he did it! ;)
Hmm, since Paul has nothing to do, maybe he can spin up a new "Husky Guy" YouTube channel and show us all how he did it! ;)
Hmm, since Paul has nothing to do, maybe he can spin up a new "Husky YouTube channel and show us all how he did it! ;)
I'd totally like and subscribe to a Husky Guy You Tube channel, hah
Yeah, I've thought about doing a few videos as well - except mine would beabout using those tools with docker - so the video would be way
shorter :)
But not short enough to find the quiet time to do it...
Good luck. It's still a mystery to me why everybody wants to use
such complicated and badly documented piece of software for
distributing a bunch of mails. Survival of the weirdest (software)
... ;)
Actually it probably is a steep learning curve, but once setup it works really well. I dont touch the hub other than to add new link (which is a few lines, which I hope to oneday automate fully).
The documentation on github is pretty good, yes some options are a bit cryptic, but a post in the HUSKY echo normally gets an answer quickly.
Is there something else that is useful and more user friendly as a "hub"
?
(Dont tell me Mystic, I wont believe you...);)
Every decent tosser should be good enough for hub stuff, AFAIK hpt was not very common in the 90s when Fidonet was way bigger. I never had a hub (only a node with points), so I don't know exactly what features I would miss that hpt provides and other tossers don't.
I thought also of nodes that aren't a hub and don't use 95% of hpt features. hpt makes Fidonet much more complicated than it is. A steep learning curve and complexity also means that it's harder to remember all the config parameters and is easier to shoot yourself in the foot.
I stopped considering hpt when I realized that it doesn't even have basic 5D support and 3D/4D had weird side effects with binkd on my system (which some experienced too, but many cannot reproduce).
Then there is the rescan bug for Squish message bases that puts the wrong time on 50% of the messages (one second off), which can cause dupes in the network. For a hub this is a really bad bug. It also created the wrong idea that the Squish format it fundamentally flawed and that Squish cannot store the original time correctly, which is not true. That this hasn't been fixed in 20+ years is astonishing.
Is it open source? Is it possible that bugs get fixed by the community. That would be my first requirement for a software that runs the network backbone. So yes, hpt is better than Mystic for hub stuff (I think).
Though a interactive UI (like Mystic's) for configuration makes it easier to configure a tosser.
Hi, i had a question...
i keep seeing refernces to "husky" is that some kind of echomail software? and what exactly does it do?
It should. It's too bad that FE can't get a small update so it wouldn't always strip seen bys when tossing to an out of zone link.
Back when FE was last released that is exactly what we wanted/needed but today it is exactly what we don't want/need. I used FE back then,
wonderful tosser.
FMail is also on my hit list but it doesn't currently include a linux native setup and I don't think I can run wine on my BBS machine, there is no xorg installed there.
Actually hpt is not much harder to setup that squish. I used squish also years ago. It is a favorite. It's hard to get started but once you get going it starts to become logical.
I started using husky late in the 90's and was looking for software I
could use on linux and that was a strong point. In those days there was little support for linux in the world of FTN software. Back then the
husky project was started by a group of people in your part of the world.
I stopped considering hpt when I realized that it doesn't even have
basic 5D support and 3D/4D had weird side effects with binkd on my
system (which some experienced too, but many cannot reproduce).
If you haven't already you should bring that up with the husky project. Software development is never a done deal and we have to keep on it or it falls into a state of disrepair. Sometimes those discussions are not
quick and easy but we need to have those discussions.
Then there is the rescan bug for Squish message bases that puts the
wrong time on 50% of the messages (one second off), which can cause
dupes in the network. For a hub this is a really bad bug. It also
created the wrong idea that the Squish format it fundamentally
flawed and that Squish cannot store the original time correctly,
which is not true. That this hasn't been fixed in 20+ years is
astonishing.
I have heard that but it has never been a problem for me, no links here have ever told me there was an issue. We need to know what the problems
are before we can even hope for a solution, so we need to bring issues up with the developers and keep talking about it until we get a solution.
Is it open source? ...
It's not open source. Not every programmer can work in a group but in the case of Mystic the author is interested in solving problems. Development
is not always fast but it is ongoing.
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