Testing outbound.

|09S|11hawn


--- Talisman v0.53-dev (Windows/x86)
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10 Jan 24 06:37:18 Shawn Highfield (1:229/452) wrote:

==== begin of the message ====
@TZUTC: -0500
@CHRS: CP437 2
@MSGID: 1:229/452 659E816E
@TID: Postie 0.15
Testing outbound.

|09S|11hawn


-+- Talisman v0.53-dev (Windows/x86)
+ Origin: Tiny's BBS - tinysbbs.com:4323/ssh:4322 (1:229/452)
SEEN+BY: 10/0 1 15/0 90/1 102/401 103/1 705 105/81 106/201 128/260 135/225 SEEN+BY: 153/757 7715 154/10 214/22 218/0 1 215 601 700 720 840 850 860 870 SEEN+BY: 218/880 900 910 930 221/1 6 226/30 227/114 229/110 112 113 200 206 SEEN+BY: 229/275 307 317 400 426 428 452 470 550 664 700 266/512 280/5555 SEEN+BY: 282/1038 291/111 292/854 301/1 320/219 322/757 335/364 341/66 234 SEEN+BY: 342/200 396/45 460/58 633/280 712/848 5020/1042 5075/35
@PATH: 229/452 426 218/700 840 221/6
==== end of the message ====

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On 10 Jan 2024, Shawn Highfield said the following...

Testing outbound.

Shawn

Seems to work OK, Shawn.

Mick Manning
https://centralontarioremote.com
telnet centralontarioremote.com:2300

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--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A49 2023/04/30 (Windows/32)
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Hello Shawn!

On 10 Jan 2024, Shawn Highfield said the following...

Testing outbound.

Shawn

--- Talisman v0.53-dev (Windows/x86)
* Origin: Tiny's BBS - tinysbbs.com:4323/ssh:4322 (1:229/452)

Got you here!

Best regards
Björn

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A49 2023/04/30 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Star Collision BBS, Uppsala, Sweden (2:201/137)

Hello Shawn,

10 Jan 24 06:37, you wrote to All:

@TZUTC: -0500
@CHRS: CP437 2
@MSGID: 1:229/452 659E816E
@TID: Postie 0.15
Testing outbound.

|09S|11hawn

--- Talisman v0.53-dev (Windows/x86)
* Origin: Tiny's BBS - tinysbbs.com:4323/ssh:4322 (1:229/452)
SEEN-BY: 10/0 1 15/0 30/0 90/1 102/401 103/1 705 105/81 106/201
128/260
SEEN-BY: 135/225 153/757 7715 154/10 203/0 214/22 218/0 1 215 601 700
720 840
SEEN-BY: 218/850 860 870 880 900 910 930 221/1 6 360 226/30 227/114 229/110
SEEN-BY: 229/112 113 200 206 275 307 317 400 426 428 452 470 550 664
700
SEEN-BY: 240/1120 1634 8002 8005 8050 266/512 280/464 5003 5555
282/1038
SEEN-BY: 291/111 292/854 301/1 313/41 320/219 322/757 335/364 341/66
234
SEEN-BY: 342/200 371/0 52 382/147 396/45 423/81 460/58 492/0 530/204 550/278
SEEN-BY: 633/280 712/848 3634/12 5020/1042 5075/35
@PATH: 229/452 426 218/700 840 221/6 1 240/1120 371/0

Regards,
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--- GoldED/2 1.1.4.7+EMX
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Greetings All!

testing new build of golded




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Regards,


Rick Smith (Nitro)

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* Origin: ----> Abacus BBS! --->>>>bbs.abon.us:2323 (1:105/10)

23 Feb 24 06:48:32 Rick Smith (1:105/10) wrote:

==== begin of the message ====
@MSGID: 1:105/10 65d8b053
@CHRS: UTF-8 2
@TZUTC: -0800
Greetings All!

testing new build of golded




----
Regards,


Rick Smith (Nitro)

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-+- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
+ Origin: ----> Abacus BBS! --->>>>bbs.abon.us:2323 (1:105/10)
SEEN+BY: 15/0 90/1 103/705 105/7 10 11 44 81 85 500 106/201 120/616 123/10 SEEN+BY: 124/5016 128/260 129/215 135/225 153/757 7715 154/10 30 40 50 700 SEEN+BY: 203/0 218/700 840 220/90 221/0 6 226/18 30 1701 227/114 229/110 111 SEEN+BY: 229/112 113 200 206 275 307 310 317 400 426 428 470 550 664 700 SEEN+BY: 240/1120 5832 266/512 280/464 5003 5555 282/1038 291/111 292/854 8125 SEEN+BY: 301/1 310/31 320/219 322/757 335/364 341/66 234 342/200 396/45 SEEN+BY: 423/120 460/58 467/888 633/280 418 2744 712/848 770/1 2320/105 SEEN+BY: 3634/12 5020/400 1042 5075/35
@PATH: 105/10 81 229/426 633/280 280/464 154/10 221/6
==== end of the message ====

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23 Feb 24 06:48, you wrote to All:

testing new build of golded

Looks pretty old..

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707

'Tommi

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20240223
* Origin: =-=---------------------------=-= (2:221/1)

Hello Rick!

On 23 Feb 2024, Rick Smith said the following...

Greetings All!

testing new build of golded

----
Regards,

Rick Smith (Nitro)

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Seems to be working fine!

Best regards
Björn

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A49 2023/04/30 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Star Collision BBS, Uppsala, Sweden (2:201/137)

Hello, Rick!

Friday February 23 2024 06:48, from Rick Smith -> All:

@MSGID: 1:105/10 65d8b053
@CHRS: UTF-8 2

This is not quite right. The UTF encoding is supposed to be level 4.

testing new build of golded
--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707

Lemme guess, you just defined the XLATEXPORT as UTF-8 and call it a day, right? Sure, that is how utf8 was originally designed. If you type in characters <127 then you are safe within LATIN-1, ISO.. CP437,.. utf8, you name it. Which is a pretty boring test you did without putting any accent chars at least.

Best Regards, Nil
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* Origin: Linux 2.6.32-042stab145.3 (1:16/101)

Hello, Björn!

Friday February 23 2024 19:55, from Björn Wiberg -> Rick Smith:

@TID: Mystic BBS 1.12 A49
@MSGID: 2:201/137 1cfc210d
@REPLY: 1:105/10 65d8b053
@TZUTC: 0100

Where is the CHRS kludge?

testing new build of golded

This is how fucked up this looks at my screen http://pics.rsh.ru/img/Screenshot_jgdwebzj.png

I intentionally circle the from name and address, though when I forward this message then the from address is correct one from the MSGID.

Best Regards, Nil
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* Origin: Linux 2.6.32-042stab145.3 (2:5015/46)

On Sat, 24 Feb 2024 05:01:12 +0300, Nil Alexandrov -> Björn Wiberg wrote:

Where is the CHRS kludge?

You should know by now that not all software inserts a CHRS kludge.

This is how fucked up this looks at my screen http://pics.rsh.ru/img/Screenshot_jgdwebzj.png

Try using 'xlatimport cp437'. In my experience, 99.9% of messages that do not contain a CHRS kludge are cp437, so just tell Golded to assume it. ;)

Regards,
Nick

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--- Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:115.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderb
* Origin: _thePharcyde distribution system (Wisconsin) (1:154/10)

Hello Nicholas,

On Friday February 23 2024 15:43, you wrote to Nil Alexandrov:

This is how fucked up this looks at my screen
http://pics.rsh.ru/img/Screenshot_jgdwebzj.png

Try using 'xlatimport cp437'. In my experience, 99.9% of messages that
do not contain a CHRS kludge are cp437, so just tell Golded to assume
it. ;)

Really? My impression is that most messages these days are CP866...


Cheers, Michiel

--- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303
* Origin: Meten is weten, testen is verpesten (2:280/5555)

On Sat, 24 Feb 2024 05:24:00 +0100, Michiel Van Der Vlist -> Nicholas Boel wrote:

MvdV> Really? My impression is that most messages these days are CP866...

I didn't say anything about most messages. I specifically said "messages that do not contain a CHRS kludge are cp437," because they are usually posted from a BBS software that displays ANSI graphics and don't care about any other charsets.

Nice try, though. Your attempt at sarcasm is duly noted. ;)

Regards,
Nick

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Hello Nil!

On 23 Feb 2024, Nil Alexandrov said the following...

Where is the CHRS kludge?

Mystic BBS (its editor) doesn't provide any CHRS kludge yet.
I'm still hoping for this to be added in a future release.

This is how fucked up this looks at my screen http://pics.rsh.ru/img/Screenshot_jgdwebzj.png

It might be a good idea to use CP437 as a default in case a CHRS kludge is missing (albeit FTS-5003.001 says ASCII), as that is what most software used back in the day.

Best regards
Björn

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A49 2023/04/30 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Star Collision BBS, Uppsala, Sweden (2:201/137)

Hello, Michiel!

Friday February 23 2024 23:24, from Michiel van der Vlist -> Nicholas Boel:

Really? My impression is that most messages these days are CP866...

Did you just wc -l number of nodes from z2r50 versus the rest of the world haha?

Best Regards, Nil
--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5
* Origin: Linux 2.6.32-042stab145.3 (2:5015/46)

Hello, Björn!

Saturday February 24 2024 03:11, from Björn Wiberg -> Nil Alexandrov:

Where is the CHRS kludge?

Mystic BBS (its editor) doesn't provide any CHRS kludge yet.

Your default charset may vary from CP437 AKA ASCII, AKA AMIGA, CP850 AKA LATIN, AKA LATIN-1, all the way to the other side of the world to CP866 which is +7FIDO, +7_FIDO, +7 FIDO, CP866, CP866 2, CP-866, CP 866, IBM866, RUSSIAN, X-CP866, and yes, I have collected all aliases over the years.

I'm still hoping for this to be added in a future release.

Well, you can easily put utf-8 4 as CHRS, that is the thing, you do not speak other languages.

This is how fucked up this looks at my screen
http://pics.rsh.ru/img/Screenshot_jgdwebzj.png

It might be a good idea to use CP437 as a default in case a CHRS
kludge is missing

I have seen GoldED is doing it.

(albeit FTS-5003.001 says ASCII),

AKA CP437.

as that is what most software used back in the day.

Pretty much cover the North American region, except Quebec haha.

Best Regards, Nil
--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5
* Origin: Linux 2.6.32-042stab145.3 (2:5015/46)

Hi, Nil!

Hello, Björn!
Friday February 23 2024 19:55, from Björn Wiberg -> Rick Smith:

@TID: Mystic BBS 1.12 A49
@MSGID: 2:201/137 1cfc210d
@REPLY: 1:105/10 65d8b053
@TZUTC: 0100

Where is the CHRS kludge?
This is how fucked up this looks at my screen http://pics.rsh.ru/img/Screenshot_jgdwebzj.png
I intentionally circle the from name and address, though when I forward this message then the from address is correct one from the MSGID.
Best Regards, Nil

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Hi Nil!

Saturday February 24 2024 05:05, you wrote to Michiel van der Vlist:

Really? My impression is that most messages these days are CP866...

Did you just wc -l number of nodes from z2r50 versus the rest of the world haha?

=== Import Windows Clipboard Start ===
From : Ward Dossche 2:2/1000 14 Jul 23 17:49:48
To : All 14 Jul 23 18:59:42
Subj : Slightly inaccurate count of unique sysop-names in the nodelist ─1774──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────
12MAY19 05JUL22 12AUG22 29SEP22 12NOV22 04JAN23 11MAR23 12MAY23 14JUL23
Z1 302 298 307 304 304 296 300 303 281
Z2 571 528 509 493 490 493 494 497 499
Z3 24 19 21 20 22 21 22 21 20
Z4 18 23 21 21 21 21 21 21 21

915 868 858 838 837 831 837 842 821
=== Import Windows Clipboard End ===



Have a nice night.
Stas Mishchenkov.

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Hello, Stas!

Saturday February 24 2024 09:09, from Stas Mishchenkov -> Nil Alexandrov:

Did you just wc -l number of nodes from z2r50 versus the rest of
the world haha?

=== Import Windows Clipboard Start ===
From : Ward Dossche 2:2/1000 14 Jul 23 17:49:48 To : All
14 Jul 23 18:59:42 Subj : Slightly inaccurate count of unique
sysop-names in the
nodelist ─1774──────────────────────────────────────────────────────── ────────────────── 12MAY19 05JUL22 12AUG22 29SEP22 12NOV22 04JAN23
11MAR23 12MAY23 14JUL23 Z1 302 298 307 304 304
296 300 303 281 Z2 571 528 509 493 490
493 494 497 499 Z3 24 19 21 20 22
21 22 21 20 Z4 18 23 21 21 21
21 21 21 21
915 868 858 838 837 831 837 842
821
=== Import Windows Clipboard End ===

These are nodes by zone numbers w/o taking into account that R50 has way more significant value in the z2 nodelist contribution.

Best Regards,
Nil
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Re: testing
By: Nil Alexandrov to Björn Wiberg on Sat Feb 24 2024 05:43 am

Your default charset may vary from CP437 AKA ASCII, AKA AMIGA, CP850 AKA

(albeit FTS-5003.001 says ASCII),

AKA CP437.

I'm sure others will correct you too, but ASCII is *not* AKA CP437.

ASCII (AKA US-ASCII) only defines code values 0-127 while CP437 (like most other code pages) is a full 8-bit code page, defining code value 0-255 (so-called "extended ASCII").
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