• Re: Who are you?

    From Dan Clough@1:123/115 to Michiel van der Vlist on Sat Feb 13 07:38:00 2021

    Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Vague <=-

    Hello Vague,

    1) There is no node 1:3603/9999 in the nodelist.
    2) There isn't even a net 3603.
    3) Real names are tradition in Fidonet.

    So, who are you?

    Very interesting. I do know he's a troll who recently crawled out from
    under a rock in Dove-Net. Looks like he's impersonating a Fido node,
    can anyone see the "via" lines of his messages and know what hub is
    being exploited?



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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Vague on Sat Feb 13 15:45:38 2021

    Hello Vague,

    Lee Lofaso wrote to Carol Shenkenberger <=-

    So I waited. And I waited. And I waited.
    And do you know what happened? At exactly
    6 p.m. (midnight in Spain) President Joe
    Biden himself (not the fake body double)
    authorized the US military to vaccinate
    everyone for the coronavirus. That's right.
    The closest thing to martial law as one
    can get without actually declaring martial
    law.

    And to think he did it without the consent
    of the Congress. Or even by executive order.
    He just went and told them to do it. So they
    did. Now everybody in America is going to be
    shot.

    The US military are qualified to do injections?

    Do you have to have it if you could be anaphylactic?

    --
    Regards
    David


    Get real. Thats Lee and his bull.

    Charlie Ward made a claim about what was going to happen
    at a particular time on a certain day. Which is what I wrote
    about in the message. Ward's prediction did not turn out
    quite the way he thought it would. I noted what actually
    did happen. Which is President Biden authorizing the US
    military to inject people with the covid vaccine.

    Why you have a problem with that is beyond me. The US
    military trains people all the time. For many different
    kinds of jobs. You know that. If you think that is bull,
    then you should re-enlist. Be all that you can be, with
    loaded syringe in hand. Just a poke. That's all that is
    needed to do. Follow orders, and give people a poke.

    the "Lee" method:

    Tried and true.

    Step 1) post garbage

    What garbage?

    Step 2) say what you posted was just you parroting back false shit that someone else said and you didn't check at all

    Charlie Ward made the claim. It is all on video. I watched his
    video, on YouTube, from start to finish. According to Ward, it was
    all true. He said he found about it from a very high source.

    Step 3) throw that person directly under the bus, then say you have CORRECTED the garbage

    After the time had passed for the event predicted to have taken
    place, I noted what had happened. At no time did I say or write that
    Charlie Ward had lied or made anything up.

    Step 4) reintroduce the lie after altering it slightly

    I never accused Charlie Ward or anybody else of lying.

    Step 5) insinuate that the only way to possibly disprove the lie is by doing
    something extreme, like joining the military

    I noted what President Joe Biden did on the date and time predicted.
    At no time did I ever say or claim that anybody had to join the
    military to prove or disprove anything. In fact, I encouraged folks
    to join the fight, rather than run away like cowards.

    Step 6) end by mocking the military and military medical personell and insinuate they are complicit in some nefarious conspiracy.

    I never claimed she served her country dishonorably. Hell, the orange
    clown who pretended to be president got five deferments as his means
    of keeping his sorry bum away from military duty in Vietnam. So what's
    it to you? If you are unable to serve on the front lines in this war
    against a pandemic, then why criticize those who have already served
    this country with honor and distinction?

    I am sure Carol S. would gladly pick up her syringe and poke you in
    the arm. And you should thank her for doing so, if she does.

    --Lee

    --
    Stop Workin', Start Jerkin'

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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Dan Clough on Sat Feb 13 15:48:22 2021

    can anyone see the "via" lines of his messages and know what hub is
    being exploited?

    As Wilfred already has explained, there is no Via lines in echomail, but we do have Path lines. And the Path line to my system may be like Wilfred's:

    X-JAM-PATH2D: 135/391 300 3634/12 640/1384 221/1 203/0 2

    So I second Wilfred's suggestion. I just hope that Largo_FL has nothing to do with Mar-a-Lago. That would be too much, thinking of Lee's previous suggestions here. 8-)



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  • From Dan Clough@1:123/115 to Björn Felten on Sat Feb 13 09:18:00 2021

    Björn Felten wrote to Dan Clough <=-

    can anyone see the "via" lines of his messages and know what hub is
    being exploited?

    As Wilfred already has explained, there is no Via lines in
    echomail, but we do have Path lines. And the Path line to my
    system may be like Wilfred's:

    X-JAM-PATH2D: 135/391 300 3634/12 640/1384 221/1 203/0 2

    Yes, thank you. Now wondering why he's spoofing the 1:3603/9999
    address... Stupidity, or deception?



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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12 to Wilfred van Velzen on Sat Feb 13 11:05:26 2021

    Re: Re: Who are you?
    By: Wilfred van Velzen to Dan Clough on Sat Feb 13 2021 15:17:57


    So my guess would be: mister Vague is David Duff...

    sounds like he just needs to go back over his configuration and fix the FTN addresses in his fidonet areas, then... a simple thing to fix, really... certainly nothing worth flamage and heavy bombardment...


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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12 to Björn Felten on Sat Feb 13 11:10:26 2021

    Re: Who are you?
    By: Björn Felten to Dan Clough on Sat Feb 13 2021 15:48:22


    I just hope that Largo_FL has nothing to do with Mar-a-Lago.

    Largo, Fla is on the west coast of florida on the other side of Old Tampa Bay from Tampa... Mar-a-lago is on the east coast just south of West Palm Beach...


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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12 to Dan Clough on Sat Feb 13 11:16:16 2021

    Re: Re: Who are you?
    By: Dan Clough to Wilfred van Velzen on Sat Feb 13 2021 09:04:00


    Nice. So I wonder why he's posting from an apparent address of 1:3603/9999 ?

    Misconfiguration, or attempted misdirection?

    net3603 used to cover the tampa area... the entire state of florida is now covered by one net, net135...

    IIRC, david is a returning operator and he appears to have set up using the old net and temporary node number used for applying for a node... i would guess that he configured his system using the temp number and just hasn't
    gone back to change everything to use his actual assigned address... a simple oversight... probably encumbered by using a configuration script or similar tool when configuring fidonet for his system...


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  • From Carol Shenkenberger@1:275/100 to Lee Lofaso on Sat Feb 13 14:16:22 2021

    Re: Coup D'Etat
    By: Lee Lofaso to Carol Shenkenberger on Fri Feb 12 2021 03:44 pm

    Hello Carol,

    So I waited. And I waited. And I waited.
    And do you know what happened? At exactly
    6 p.m. (midnight in Spain) President Joe
    Biden himself (not the fake body double)
    authorized the US military to vaccinate
    everyone for the coronavirus. That's right.
    The closest thing to martial law as one
    can get without actually declaring martial
    law.

    And to think he did it without the consent
    of the Congress. Or even by executive order.
    He just went and told them to do it. So they
    did. Now everybody in America is going to be
    shot.

    The US military are qualified to do injections?

    Do you have to have it if you could be anaphylactic?

    --
    Regards
    David


    Get real. Thats Lee and his bull.

    Charlie Ward made a claim about what was going to happen
    at a particular time on a certain day. Which is what I wrote
    about in the message. Ward's prediction did not turn out
    quite the way he thought it would. I noted what actually
    did happen. Which is President Biden authorizing the US
    military to inject people with the covid vaccine.

    Why you have a problem with that is beyond me. The US
    military trains people all the time. For many different
    kinds of jobs. You know that. If you think that is bull,
    then you should re-enlist. Be all that you can be, with
    loaded syringe in hand. Just a poke. That's all that is
    needed to do. Follow orders, and give people a poke.

    --Lee

    --
    It Ain't Payday If It Ain't Nuts In Your Mouth


    Lee, you are an idiot. The US military has Doctors, Nurses and all the same stuff any hospital staff have. We even have hospitals. Of COURSE we are administering COVID shots. Just like we do flu shots and others. Been doing that for 40 years for various vaccinations.

    Military treatment facilities are already doing COVID shots and have been since the first doses arrived.

    They have moved into the 1B set locally. VA is also doing them for our older vets.

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  • From Carol Shenkenberger@1:275/100 to Lee Lofaso on Sat Feb 13 14:22:16 2021

    Re: Coup D'Etat
    By: Lee Lofaso to Vague on Sat Feb 13 2021 03:45 pm

    Hello Vague,

    Lee Lofaso wrote to Carol Shenkenberger <=-

    So I waited. And I waited. And I waited.
    And do you know what happened? At exactly
    6 p.m. (midnight in Spain) President Joe
    Biden himself (not the fake body double)
    authorized the US military to vaccinate
    everyone for the coronavirus. That's right.
    The closest thing to martial law as one
    can get without actually declaring martial
    law.

    And to think he did it without the consent
    of the Congress. Or even by executive order.
    He just went and told them to do it. So they
    did. Now everybody in America is going to be
    shot.

    The US military are qualified to do injections?

    Do you have to have it if you could be anaphylactic?

    --
    Regards
    David


    Get real. Thats Lee and his bull.

    Charlie Ward made a claim about what was going to happen
    at a particular time on a certain day. Which is what I wrote
    about in the message. Ward's prediction did not turn out
    quite the way he thought it would. I noted what actually
    did happen. Which is President Biden authorizing the US
    military to inject people with the covid vaccine.

    Why you have a problem with that is beyond me. The US
    military trains people all the time. For many different
    kinds of jobs. You know that. If you think that is bull,
    then you should re-enlist. Be all that you can be, with
    loaded syringe in hand. Just a poke. That's all that is
    needed to do. Follow orders, and give people a poke.

    the "Lee" method:

    Tried and true.

    Step 1) post garbage

    What garbage?

    Step 2) say what you posted was just you parroting back false shit that someone else said and you didn't check at all

    Charlie Ward made the claim. It is all on video. I watched his
    video, on YouTube, from start to finish. According to Ward, it was
    all true. He said he found about it from a very high source.

    Step 3) throw that person directly under the bus, then say you have CORRECTED the garbage

    After the time had passed for the event predicted to have taken
    place, I noted what had happened. At no time did I say or write that
    Charlie Ward had lied or made anything up.

    Step 4) reintroduce the lie after altering it slightly

    I never accused Charlie Ward or anybody else of lying.

    Step 5) insinuate that the only way to possibly disprove the lie is by
    doing
    something extreme, like joining the military

    I noted what President Joe Biden did on the date and time predicted.
    At no time did I ever say or claim that anybody had to join the
    military to prove or disprove anything. In fact, I encouraged folks
    to join the fight, rather than run away like cowards.

    Step 6) end by mocking the military and military medical personell and insinuate they are complicit in some nefarious conspiracy.

    I never claimed she served her country dishonorably. Hell, the orange
    clown who pretended to be president got five deferments as his means
    of keeping his sorry bum away from military duty in Vietnam. So what's
    it to you? If you are unable to serve on the front lines in this war
    against a pandemic, then why criticize those who have already served
    this country with honor and distinction?

    I am sure Carol S. would gladly pick up her syringe and poke you in
    the arm. And you should thank her for doing so, if she does.

    --Lee

    --
    Stop Workin', Start Jerkin'


    Lee, you remain an idiot and you are the only one who doesn't know it. Sad that.

    xxcarol
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