Hi Lawrence,

3/31/01 10:42:56 AM, Lawrence Garvin wrote to Dave Hamilton:

NGATE (v0.34) seems to only work with news servers that support

unauthenticated access.

Yes. The only workaround I can think of is to run your own news server as a buffer between your ISP and ngate. Let it authenticate with your feed, but give
ngate access to it. When I gated usenet I ran my own nntp server for some reason but for the life of me, I can't remember what it was.

MAILGATE (v1.11c)... recently, after applying current FixPaks... I'm

encountering

two scenarios:

with Send=Pipe, the Pipe talking to sendmail hangs and the message is

never sent.


I haven't seen that one, but I'll take your word for it.

with Send=Queue, the message is queued, but sendmail refuses to process

it with

the following complaint when executing 'sendmail -q -v': c:\mptn\etc\aliases: 2 aliases, longest 20 bytes, 53 bytes total c:\mptn\etc\aliases: 2 aliases, longest 20 bytes, 53 bytes total
orderq: bogus qf name qfAAEE5E

Yes. Mailgate used this method as a shortcut that was not expected by sendmail.
I believe that was documented. It exploited a security hole in IBM's implementation of sendmail by tricking sendmail into thinking it had already queued these postings itself. In Warp4 (and maybe some Warp3 fixpaks) IBM fixed
that by auditing the qf creation history. I only used it because it was fast.

I'm afraid I can't be very helpful. The only OS/2 I run these days is a Warp4 workstation. The sources for both of these programs are on a dozen or so tapes that I have been unable to restore. They were made with a buggy version of BackAgain/2 that I didn't know was buggy. I have not given up trying to get data off them, but I am unlikely to continue development of either utility.

If I rescue the sources, I'll release them.

I don't know what the current level of sendmail is implemented, but you may be able to make it work by having mailgate place its qf files into a directory sendmail doesn't know about, then calling sendmail from the command line to send them. I'm not fluent in anything more recent than Sendmail V8, so it's only a wild guess.

Dave


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Dave Hamilton said in a message to Lawrence Garvin:

Hi Lawrence,

Hey! Thanks for the prompt response!

NGATE (v0.34) seems to only work with news servers that support

unauthenticated access.

Yes. The only workaround I can think of is to run your own news
server as a buffer between your ISP and ngate. Let it authenticate
with your feed, but give ngate access to it.

Thanks.. I'd pretty much figgered that was my only functional option.

MAILGATE (v1.11c)... recently, after applying current FixPaks... I'm

encountering LG> two scenarios:

with Send=Pipe, the Pipe talking to sendmail hangs and the message is

never sent.

I haven't seen that one, but I'll take your word for it.

Hmmm...

with Send=Queue, the message is queued, but sendmail refuses
to process it with the following complaint when executing
'sendmail -q -v':
c:\mptn\etc\aliases: 2 aliases, longest 20 bytes, 53 bytes total c:\mptn\etc\aliases: 2 aliases, longest 20 bytes, 53 bytes total
orderq: bogus qf name qfAAEE5E

Yes. Mailgate used this method as a shortcut that was not expected
by sendmail. I believe that was documented. It exploited a security
hole in IBM's implementation of sendmail by tricking sendmail into thinking it had already queued these postings itself.

Aha!..

In Warp4 (and maybe some Warp3 fixpaks) IBM fixed that by auditing
the qf creation history. I only used it because it was fast.
I'm afraid I can't be very helpful. The only OS/2 I run these days
is a Warp4 workstation. The sources for both of these programs are
on a dozen or so tapes that I have been unable to restore. They
were made with a buggy version of BackAgain/2 that I didn't know
was buggy. I have not given up trying to get data off them, but I
am unlikely to continue development of either utility.

I understand the situation. Sorry to hear about your tape snafus... been there.. it ain't fun.

If I rescue the sources, I'll release them.

Cool... I might be inclined to tackle those fixes if the opportunity arises.

I don't know what the current level of sendmail is implemented, but
you may be able to make it work by having mailgate place its qf
files into a directory sendmail doesn't know about, then calling
sendmail from the command line to send them. I'm not fluent in
anything more recent than Sendmail V8, so it's only a wild guess.

Thanks for the suggestion! I'll definitely give that a try.

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Dave Hamilton said in a message to Alan Ianson:

I've been meaning to write you to say thanks for nGate. I'm using
it here, DH> so thanks!

Holy Cow! What a flashback! I'm so glad it has been useful to you.
I finally retired my OS/2 Maximus box a couple of weeks ago. I'm
running the bbs on Windows for the first
time ever. I sure miss the old setup but it is really nice to be
running something that is being developed.

Actually glad to see you alive.... and the NGate utility come up in discussion... I've been using MAILGATE and NGATE both for a very long time until recently and was very happy with both when they were working for me.

I've run into two glitches, one on each.. if you're willing to offer any suggestions, I'm willing to implement them.

NGATE (v0.34) seems to only work with news servers that support unauthenticated
access. Is there any way to provide a username/password to NGATE so that it can
authenticate with my provider's news server?

MAILGATE (v1.11c)... recently, after applying current FixPaks... I'm encountering two scenarios:

with Send=Pipe, the Pipe talking to sendmail hangs and the message is never sent.

with Send=Queue, the message is queued, but sendmail refuses to process it with the following complaint when executing 'sendmail -q -v':


IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 2.02
Using Sendmail Configuration File C:\MPTN\ETC\sendmail.cf
c:\mptn\etc\aliases: 2 aliases, longest 20 bytes, 53 bytes total c:\mptn\etc\aliases: 2 aliases, longest 20 bytes, 53 bytes total
orderq: bogus qf name qfAAEE5E

Here's the contents of c:\mptn\etc\mqueue\qfAAEE5E:

P100
T986050142
DdfAAEE5E
MDeferred: All MailGate to Queue
S<lawrence@fido.eforest.net>
HReturn-path: <lawrence@fido.eforest.net>
HReceived: by fido.eforest.net (MailGate Vers 1.11c)
id AAEE5E; Sat Mar 31 09:49:02 2001
HFrom: lawrence@fido.eforest.net (Lawrence Garvin)
HFull-name: Lawrence Garvin
HDate: Sat Mar 31 09:49:02 2001
HX-Mailer: MailGate 1.11c (NOT REGISTERED)
HMessage-id: <986050142.AAEE5E(NOT REGISTERED)@fido.eforest.net>
HOrganization: The Enchanted Forest BBS
HSubject: Test
HX-Mailer: MailGate 1.11c (NOT REGISTERED)
HTo: lgarvin@eforest.net
R<lgarvin@eforest.net>

If it helps.. I'm running:
OS/2 v4.0 CSD XR04000
TCP/IP v5.12.2 CSD WR08424
SENDMAIL.EXE dated 4/15/99


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