• Badmail

    From Papabill@1:123/22 to All on Tue Jan 20 14:38:14 2009
    Everything I have coming in is going into the BADMAIL folder, even though Fastecho has all the jam areas set up.

    Ideas?

    Thanks

    --- Virtual Advanced Ver 2 for DOS
    * Origin: *Square One Christian BBS - sq1bbs.com - (1:123/22)
  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Papabill on Tue Jan 20 12:07:32 2009
    Hello Papabill,

    Everything I have coming in is going into the BADMAIL folder, even
    though Fastecho has all the jam areas set up.

    Ideas?

    Whenever I have seen something like that it usually turns out to be an aka problem. Where does the message come from and is that node setup correctly?

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Papabill@1:123/22 to Alan Ianson on Tue Jan 20 16:42:23 2009
    Re: Badmail

    Whenever I have seen something like that it usually turns out to be an aka problem. Where does the message come from and is that node setup correctly?

    Ttyl :-),
    Al


    You are probably right, but everything looks o.k.

    Got it!! I didn't realize that the point number was not necessary in the initial address setup.

    Now if I could figure out how to make the BBS software build message bases automatically, I'd have it made.

    Thanks

    --- Virtual Advanced Ver 2 for DOS
    * Origin: *Square One Christian BBS - sq1bbs.com - (1:123/22)
  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Papabill on Tue Jan 20 13:57:37 2009
    Hello Papabill,

    Whenever I have seen something like that it usually turns out to be
    an aka problem. Where does the message come from and is that node
    setup correctly?

    You are probably right, but everything looks o.k.

    Been there done that, I've looked right at aka's that looked right, but weren't.. :)

    Got it!! I didn't realize that the point number was not necessary in
    the initial address setup.

    Good.

    Now if I could figure out how to make the BBS software build message
    bases automatically, I'd have it made.

    In Virtual Advanced? I know nothing about that software but see it quite often in the echoes recently.

    The guys over in the VADV echo might be able to help.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Paul Quinn@3:640/384 to Papabill on Wed Jan 21 12:55:02 2009
    Hi! Papabill,

    On 20 Jan 09 14:38, you wrote to All:

    Everything I have coming in is going into the BADMAIL folder, even
    though Fastecho has all the jam areas set up.

    Ideas?

    Read through a couple of messages in the BADMAIL area, and check out the hidden
    control lines. FastEcho normally tells you why the message(s) ended up there.
    E.g., a popular excuse is something like "Sender not active for this area". :)

    Cheers,
    Paul.

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  • From Papabill@1:123/22 to Alan Ianson on Tue Jan 20 22:32:53 2009
    Re: Badmail
    Pa> bases automatically, I'd have it made.

    In Virtual Advanced? I know nothing about that software but see it quite ofte in the echoes recently.

    The guys over in the VADV echo might be able to help.

    Nope, in EleBBS. The guys there are kinda fed up with me. I've been trying to get this thing to work for several years now, and get aggrevated every so often and quit.

    Oh, well. I'll keep plugging. At least I (we) got FastEcho working.

    Thanks

    --- Virtual Advanced Ver 2 for DOS
    * Origin: *Square One Christian BBS - sq1bbs.com - (1:123/22)
  • From Gaylen Hintz@1:288/34 to Papabill on Fri Jan 23 01:09:03 2009
    Hello Papabill.

    The guys over in the VADV echo might be able to help.

    Nope, in EleBBS. The guys there are kinda fed up with me. I've
    been trying to get this thing to work for several years now,
    and get aggrevated every so often and quit.

    :) Some people just don't have enough patience. Since I also run
    EleBBs maybe I can be of some help to you there. Just what exactly
    are you trying to do again?

    Oh, well. I'll keep plugging. At least I (we) got FastEcho working.

    That is a plus. :)

    Gaylen



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  • From Papabill@1:123/22 to Gaylen Hintz on Sat Jan 24 17:57:55 2009
    Re: Badmail

    :) Some people just don't have enough patience. Since I also run
    EleBBs maybe I can be of some help to you there. Just what exactly
    are you trying to do again?

    First, I'm trying to get FastEcho to handle VirtualNet. From what I hear from Paul Quinn, Douglas Conner is running VirtualNet through a tosser similar to FastEcho.

    Then, I'd love to know how to make FastEcho and Allfix auto-create message and files echoes in EleBBS. I hate the idea of having to manually type over 450 message echoes and 350+ files echoes.

    Why not join me in my ventrilo chat room, sq1bbs.com, port 3784

    Thanks

    --- Virtual Advanced Ver 2 for DOS
    * Origin: *Square One Christian BBS - sq1bbs.com - (1:123/22)
  • From Papabill@1:123/22 to Alan Ianson on Sat Jan 24 18:23:55 2009
    Re: Badmail


    Whenever I have seen something like that it usually turns out to be an aka problem. Where does the message come from and is that node setup correctly?


    I understand thet the point number (in my case 1:123/22.1)is not supposed to be in the System->NetWork addresses, but how does FastEcho understand that it is supposed to toss it to the msg echoes? I keep getting a "Security violation: Destination is not this system" error. My main addy tosses it TO the point addy.

    --- Virtual Advanced Ver 2 for DOS
    * Origin: *Square One Christian BBS - sq1bbs.com - (1:123/22)
  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Papabill on Sat Jan 24 15:40:43 2009
    Hello Papabill,

    Whenever I have seen something like that it usually turns out to be
    an aka problem. Where does the message come from and is that node
    setup correctly?

    I understand thet the point number (in my case 1:123/22.1)is not
    supposed to be in the System->NetWork addresses,

    If mail is ariving there for 22.1 then that aka needs to be setup as one of your network addresses.. :)

    but how does FastEcho
    understand that it is supposed to toss it to the msg echoes? I keep getting a "Security violation: Destination is not this system" error.
    My main addy tosses it TO the point addy.

    Add that point to your network addresses.. May need more setup than that but that's one step.. :)

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Paul Quinn@3:640/384 to Papabill on Sun Jan 25 10:38:11 2009
    Hi! Papabill,

    On 24 Jan 09 17:57, you wrote to Gaylen Hintz:

    Then, I'd love to know how to make FastEcho and Allfix auto-create
    message and files echoes in EleBBS. I hate the idea of having to
    manually type over 450 message echoes and 350+ files echoes.

    Isn't EleBBS based on the old RemoteAccess (RA) BBS system? If so, then FastEcho can auto-create RA-style message area definitions that EleBBS could use... I think. :)

    Cheers,
    Paul.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Paul Quinn on Sat Jan 24 17:45:25 2009
    Hello Paul,

    Then, I'd love to know how to make FastEcho and Allfix auto-create
    message and files echoes in EleBBS. I hate the idea of having to
    manually type over 450 message echoes and 350+ files echoes.

    Isn't EleBBS based on the old RemoteAccess (RA) BBS system? If so,
    then FastEcho can auto-create RA-style message area definitions that EleBBS could use... I think. :)

    I was thinking the same thing. I used FE with RA years ago and I think it did and I think it would do the same for EleBBS.

    It has been a while though, and memory fades.. :)

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Paul Quinn@3:640/384 to Alan Ianson on Sun Jan 25 13:42:07 2009
    Hi! Alan,

    On 24 Jan 09 17:45, you wrote to me:

    I was thinking the same thing. I used FE with RA years ago and I think
    it did and I think it would do the same for EleBBS.

    It has been a while though, and memory fades.. :)

    Damn right. I blew RA away just a wee bit over 10 years ago (October '98) but I recalled, somehow, that the EleBBS author was quite active in the RA support echo at about that time.

    Now my brain hurts, and I've got a CD to burn and another linux distro to test drive on a new (to me) machine yet...

    Cheers,
    Paul.

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  • From Papabill@1:123/22 to Paul Quinn on Sat Jan 24 23:14:19 2009
    Re: Badmail

    Isn't EleBBS based on the old RemoteAccess (RA) BBS system? If so, then FastEcho can auto-create RA-style message area definitions that EleBBS could use... I think. :)


    I thought so too, unless there is something I'm NOT doing right. Fastecho auto-creats the bases, but not in EleBBS.

    --- Virtual Advanced Ver 2 for DOS
    * Origin: *Square One Christian BBS - sq1bbs.com - (1:123/22)
  • From Paul Quinn@3:640/384 to Papabill on Sun Jan 25 17:20:54 2009
    Hi! Papabill,

    On 24 Jan 09 23:14, you wrote to me:

    Isn't EleBBS based on the old RemoteAccess (RA) BBS system? If so,
    then FastEcho can auto-create RA-style message area definitions that
    EleBBS could use... I think. :)


    I thought so too, unless there is something I'm NOT doing right.
    Fastecho auto-creats the bases, but not in EleBBS.

    Unless there's a 'path' problem, and I'm hoping that's all there is to it, then
    there may be an area *version* difference which EleBBS can't read. In that case, I'd be looking for some of util to do a conversion from the one to t'other. Ask around in a support area (RA?)/web forum/email/whatever.

    Such a converter, if one exists or if that's the problem fix, then it would be just an extra step in the process of incorporating newly-created FastEcho areas
    without doing it manually. (I've been -there- over the years and know what hell it is to do it that way [e.g. with Mystic].)

    Cheers,
    Paul.

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  • From Gaylen Hintz@1:288/34 to Papabill on Sun Jan 25 08:21:12 2009
    For reasons unknown to us Papabill said thus to Gaylen Hintz:

    First, I'm trying to get FastEcho to handle VirtualNet. From
    what I hear from Paul Quinn, Douglas Conner is running
    VirtualNet through a tosser similar to FastEcho.

    Hmmm, interesting. I haven't a clue on this one though. :)

    Then, I'd love to know how to make FastEcho and Allfix
    auto-create message and files echoes in EleBBS. I hate the idea

    Well I don't know about FastEcho but I know there is a utility for Gecho Pro that will auto create the message bases but for EleBBS I know of no such utility.

    of having to manually type over 450 message echoes and 350+
    files echoes.

    I'm afraid that you will have to manually enter those message bases under EleBBS unfortunately. :( Tis what I landed up doing though I took small bites,
    a few echos at a time. <sigh>

    I'll have to do a search on pcmicro and see what I can come up with however. :)

    Why not join me in my ventrilo chat room, sq1bbs.com, port 3784

    I'll have to do that sometime in the very near future.. :)


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  • From Papabill@1:123/22 to Papabill on Mon Jan 26 12:20:39 2009
    Re: Badmail

    Fastecho auto-creats the bases, but not in EleBBS.

    Actually, it does. I deleted all the hand-entered msg bases in both EleBBS and Fastecho, and while I was planning to start again, it actually worked-created the echoes in BOTH FastEcho and EleBBS.

    It only creates them in one 'area default', but that's better than having to type 600 message bases in EleBBS and the same number in FastEcho-plus less chance of mistakes.

    --- Virtual Advanced Ver 2 for DOS
    * Origin: *Square One Christian BBS - sq1bbs.com - (1:123/22)
  • From Roy Witt@1:397/22 to Papabill on Mon Jan 26 15:19:47 2009

    26 Jan 09 12:20, Papabill wrote to Papabill:

    Re: Badmail

    Fastecho auto-creats the bases, but not in EleBBS.

    Actually, it does. I deleted all the hand-entered msg bases in both
    EleBBS and Fastecho, and while I was planning to start again, it
    actually worked-created the echoes in BOTH FastEcho and EleBBS.

    FE will create areas as they are received from your uplink, if you have it configed properly. That doesn't mean that they will be imported into the
    EleBBS format though. Although, EleBBS may be able to use the file FE
    creates to create it's own database (AREAS.BBS). (I don't know anything
    about EleBBS)

    It only creates them in one 'area default', but that's better than
    having to type 600 message bases in EleBBS and the same number in FastEcho-plus less chance of mistakes.

    That is does well. You can use the areas to create your own area defaults
    too. i.e. I use A to designate email from one uplink and R to designate regional echoes that I get from another source and then P for all
    pass-thru echoes.

    R\%/itt



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  • From Paul Quinn@3:640/384 to Papabill on Tue Jan 27 09:26:06 2009
    Hi! Papabill,

    On 26 Jan 09 12:20, you wrote to yourself:

    It only creates them in one 'area default', but that's better than
    having to type 600 message bases in EleBBS and the same number in FastEcho-plus less chance of mistakes.

    :) That's what 5/6ths of computing is all about: creating very fast, very accurate mistakes.

    IIRC, you can create different default 'types' of configurations but each up/down-link is allowed only one default type. It sure beats what you said, though.

    Cheers,
    Paul.

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