Hello,

I'd like to register FastEcho, but the site's registration form points
to a 404 error, and the Slash BBS seems unavailable.

Any ideas?




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Flavio Bessa wrote to All <=-

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Hello,

I'd like to register FastEcho, but the site's registration form
points
to a 404 error, and the Slash BBS seems unavailable.

Any ideas?

Yeah, Decompile it and remove the registeration crap out of it. I'm sure the author is out of the BBS scene. and besides, the idiot got my money too and split.

bastards.

-Chuck


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I'd like to register FastEcho, but the site's registration
form points to a 404 error, and the Slash BBS seems unavailable.

yes, slash shutdown his bbs operations some time back, IIRC...

Any ideas?

have you tried to contact the author directly? he is still listed in the nodelist and his web pages are still active... if it were me, i'd contact him and just ask him for a registration key and see what comes about...

try sales@softeq.de or tobi@softeq.de and see what happens...

i do know that real life and actual work/job stuff took over much of his activities after he completed school some years back...

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I'd like to register FastEcho, but the site's registration
form points to a 404 error, and the Slash BBS seems unavailable.

Any ideas?

Yeah, Decompile it and remove the registeration crap out of
it. I'm sure the author is out of the BBS scene. and besides,
the idiot got my money too and split.

that's a nice attitude... no doubt you win many friends with it... do you have a problem with someone having a real life outside the computer and fidonet?

bastards.

did you not get what you paid for? seems to me that you did... everyone did... no one was promised any future upgrades or development, TTBOMK...

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Hello Flavio.

09 Jul 04 23:52, you wrote to all:

Listen there are still some sites out there... try to work your way around some
known sites ... www.defsol.se (FrontDoor's Page)

I was on an fe site the other day

Hello,

I'd like to register FastEcho, but the site's registration form
points to a 404 error, and the Slash BBS seems unavailable.

Any ideas?

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Hello Flavio.

Ohhhhhhhhhhh BTW, and I emailed the author and he wrote back in moments.Z

09 Jul 04 23:52, you wrote to all:

Hello,

I'd like to register FastEcho, but the site's registration form
points to a 404 error, and the Slash BBS seems unavailable.

Any ideas?

IB

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mark lewis wrote to Charles P. Adkins <=-

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I'd like to register FastEcho, but the site's registration
form points to a 404 error, and the Slash BBS seems unavailable.

Any ideas?

Yeah, Decompile it and remove the registeration crap out of
it. I'm sure the author is out of the BBS scene. and besides,
the idiot got my money too and split.

that's a nice attitude... no doubt you win many friends with it... do
you have a problem with someone having a real life outside the computer and fidonet?

No, But what I do have a problem with is people offering a product. and then when he decides, oh, this ain't for me anymore, he splits and takes everyone's money
and leaves the scene, leaving everyone swinging... and besides, who asked you anyhow?

bastards.

did you not get what you paid for? seems to me that you did... everyone did... no one was promised any future upgrades or development,
TTBOMK...

It doesn't matter, If you gonna offer a product, stand behind it. Don't offer it and
then make your money and spilt the scene. that's bad business, Fastecho's author did it,
Gecho's author did it, FrontDoor's original author did it, as did Allfix's author, when he
found out he couldn't nickle and dime everyone to death for upgrades. this is why
hackers are so active. because of putz's like that.

-Chuck


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Yeah, Decompile it and remove the registeration
crap out of it. I'm sure the author is out of the
BBS scene. and besides, the idiot got my money
too and split.

that's a nice attitude... no doubt you win many
friends with it... do you have a problem with
someone having a real life outside the computer
and fidonet?

No, But what I do have a problem with is people
offering a product. and then when he decides, oh,
this ain't for me anymore, he splits and takes
everyone's money and leaves the scene, leaving
everyone swinging...

===== quote =====

FastEcho is provided 'as is', without warranty of any kind, neither expressed nor implied. The author only guarantees that FastEcho and the included tools occupy diskspace.

===== quote =====

i see nothing in there that says that you'll get anything else than what you registered and the key that goes with it... in fact, there's nothing in the docs that says that anyone will get anything further and above what they already have... what's the problem with that?

and besides, who asked you anyhow?

this is an open echo for one thing ;)

bastards.

did you not get what you paid for? seems to me that you
did... everyone did... no one was promised any future
upgrades or development, TTBOMK...

It doesn't matter, If you gonna offer a product, stand
behind it. Don't offer it and then make your money and
spilt the scene. that's bad business,

sorry, i don't think so... not in the case of shareware software that you purchase a registeration key for... no one guarantees that you'll get anything over and above what you already got... not IBM, microsoft, intel, amd, cisco, or any of the other multitude of companies out there... most don't even guarantee that you'll get any bug fixes!

Fastecho's author did it, Gecho's author did it, FrontDoor's
original author did it, as did Allfix's author, when he
found out he couldn't nickle and dime everyone to death for
upgrades. this is why hackers are so active. because of
putz's like that.

frontdoor has only had one main author as did the others... each business is free to determine their fees and regulations... you call it nickel and dimeing... they call it putting food on their table and paying their rent so thay can give you what you believe you desire... without food and rent, they can't do anything at all to provide you the software that you have...

i'm a shareware author, myself, and i don't guarantee or promise anything other
than it will take up space on your drive... if it works for you, that's great... if not, you own all parts and pieces ;) other than that, /if/ i can get another version or program written and released, that's a good thing... if,
at some time, i see that i can't do it any more, then i'm under no obligation to remain or support it... as much as i'd hate it, i'd not have much choice in the matter...

maybe instead of whining and crying like you do above, you should try it yourself and see what its like... it takes a lot more than a few hours a night after a long days work to get this stuff done... and when you throw a family in
with children and a spouse who also wants their time with you, well, you count the hours available and tell us what you come up with ;)

methinks you need to stop for a moment and look at the other side of the fence and see what its really like...

sorry if you don't like the truth as i've told it in this message but it is the
truth... yes, i hate that those guys had to let their software and support go... i am/was a beta tester for frontdoor, fastecho and several other packages... it was a letdown, yes... but it was understandable... heck, joho's now got a child (at least one child) that's a couple of years old... and a wife
and a full time business... this stuff was peanuts compared with what's out there in real life... nickle and dimeing... yeah, right :(

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mark lewis wrote to Charles P. Adkins <=-

frontdoor has only had one main author as did the others... each

<lots of rambling snipped>

Okay, then fine... why don't the SELL the source code to someone else, that IS interested
in keeping the product alive and supporting it? why? Because they want to continue to
nickle and dime people... it's a small cash cow. and a big rip-off!

-Chuck



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frontdoor has only had one main author as did
the others... each[...]

<lots of rambling snipped>

call it what you will, the truth always hurts those who live in a lie...

Okay, then fine... why don't the SELL the source code to
someone else, that IS interested in keeping the product
alive and supporting it?

because they don't want to, for one thing...

why?

that's their business and their's alone...

Because they want to continue to nickle and dime people...
it's a small cash cow. and a big rip-off!

lovely how clear your crystal ball is to be able to tell you what people do and
why they do it...

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Hello Charles.

13 Jul 04 11:48, you wrote to mark lewis:

why? Because they want to continue to nickle and dime people... it's a small cash cow. and a big rip-off!

Then perhaps you should format your hard drive and leave it blank, since it's quite apparent you think all software authors, Microsoft included, are nothing but rip-off artists.

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If the shoe fits......

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MARK LEWIS wrote to FLAVIO BESSA <=-

yes, slash shutdown his bbs operations some time back, IIRC...

What a pity.

have you tried to contact the author directly? he is still listed in
the nodelist and his web pages are still active... if it were me, i'd contact him and just ask him for a registration key and see what comes about...

try sales@softeq.de or tobi@softeq.de and see what happens...

Thanks for the info. I've sent an email to those addresses just now. Let's
see what happens!




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Hey mark,

10 Jul 04 12:20, you wrote to Charles P. Adkins:

bastards.

did you not get what you paid for? seems to me that you did...
everyone did... no one was promised any future upgrades or
development, TTBOMK...

I think he's saying he paid for a key and never got it.
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Hey mark,

11 Jul 04 20:31, you wrote to Charles P. Adkins:

frontdoor has only had one main author as did the others... each
business is free to determine their fees and regulations... you call
it nickel and dimeing... they call it putting food on their table and paying their rent so thay can give you what you believe you desire... without food and rent, they can't do anything at all to provide you
the software that you have...

Exactly!

i'm a shareware author, myself, and i don't guarantee or promise
anything other than it will take up space on your drive... if it works
for you, that's great... if not, you own all parts and pieces ;)
other than that, /if/ i can get another version or program written and released, that's a good thing... if, at some time, i see that i can't
do it any more, then i'm under no obligation to remain or support
it... as much as i'd hate it, i'd not have much choice in the
matter...

Same here. I've written a couple pieces of software with another in the works. It usually works, but if not, then DANG! Oh well. Sorry.

maybe instead of whining and crying like you do above, you should try
it yourself and see what its like... it takes a lot more than a few
hours a night after a long days work to get this stuff done... and
when you throw a family in with children and a spouse who also wants
their time with you, well, you count the hours available and tell us
what you come up with ;)

Don't I know that one. NLBuild has already taken three times the amount of time
I guessed. And it's not quite done yet. A few hours? Don't I wish!

-- Dan

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bastards.

did you not get what you paid for? seems to me that you did...
everyone did... no one was promised any future upgrades or
development, TTBOMK...

I think he's saying he paid for a key and never got it.

if that was what he was trying to say, then he should have just spit it out and
said it... he was pretty direct in his statements... he also did not deny that he got what he paid for... if it was a key that he didn't get, that statement should have brought that right out...

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Hey mark,

08 Aug 04 20:49, you wrote to me:

bastards.

did you not get what you paid for? seems to me that you did...
everyone did... no one was promised any future upgrades or
development, TTBOMK...

I think he's saying he paid for a key and never got it.

if that was what he was trying to say, then he should have just spit
it out and said it... he was pretty direct in his statements... he
also did not deny that he got what he paid for... if it was a key that
he didn't get, that statement should have brought that right out...

Ok so I'm wrong. If he did state he got what he paid for then all comments withdrawn.

-- Dan

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I think he's saying he paid for a key and never got it.

if that was what he was trying to say, then he should have just spit
it out and said it... he was pretty direct in his statements... he
also did not deny that he got what he paid for... if it was a key that
he didn't get, that statement should have brought that right out...

Ok so I'm wrong. If he did state he got what he paid for then
all comments withdrawn.

not a problem, dan... things can kinda get lost after a month, eh? OB-)

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