• Mystic BBS + FrontDoor

    From Paul Hayton@3:770/100 to All on Sat Sep 30 08:20:51 2017
    Just an update for those of you that we're curious about this.

    Yes, I did manage to get things working nicely between Mystic 1.12 A35 and FrontDoor 2.33 mL

    I used Netserial to create a virtual modem and have set up FD to communicate via that. Mystic in turn monitors for a semaphore when mail arrives and acts
    on the inbound directory that FD deposits packets in to.

    I have used the FD equivalent of a file box to point Mystic at for outgoing files to be sent via FD

    JoHo and I have echomail and netmail running across fsxNet (Zone 21) spanning the 3 x NETs currently in use.

    Here's a snip of the FD logging from a recent incoming session.

    [snip]

    = 18:27:22 RING
    = 18:27:25 RING
    = 18:27:26 CONNECT 57600/ARQ
    18:27:26 Sending text in C:\FD\NOBBS.TXT
    + 18:27:28 Future Hacker Central, 21:3/101
    ~ 18:27:28 SysOp: Joaquim Homrighausen
    ~ 18:27:28 RegTo: Joaquim Homrighausen
    ~ 18:27:28 Using: FrontDoor 2.34.mL/JH000001
    : 18:27:28 RTime: 28 Sep 17, 7:27:28 (0200)
    : 18:27:28 LTime: 28 Sep 17, 18:27:26 (1200)
    ~ 18:27:28 Site: Stockholm, Sweden
    ~ 18:27:28 Flags: XA
    ~ 18:27:28 Phone: -Unpublished-
    - 18:27:28 sType: EMSI/MD5
    - 18:27:28 Password protected mail session
    * 18:27:30 Rcvd C:\FD\FILES\IN\076536A7.TH0; 637b, 0 CPS
    * 18:27:34 Sent C:\FD\JOHOOUT\0000FFFF.THH; 1040b, 1040 CPS
    18:27:34 Removed sent file C:\FD\JOHOOUT\0000FFFF.THH
    * 18:27:35 Sent C:\FD\JOHOOUT\0000FFFF.THI; 898b, 898 CPS
    18:27:35 Removed sent file C:\FD\JOHOOUT\0000FFFF.THI
    + 18:27:37 Mail transfer completed
    $ 18:27:37 From 21:3/101, 0:11, 0 (257 CPS)
    18:27:37 No messages to send in this event

    [snip]

    Best, Paul

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A35 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | telnet://agency.bbs.geek.nz (3:770/100)
  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Paul Hayton on Fri Sep 29 21:45:35 2017
    Hey Paul,

    Yes, I did manage to get things working nicely between Mystic 1.12 A35
    and FrontDoor 2.33 mL

    Nothing really extraordinary ... is it?

    With other products I've been doing that since ... pffttt ... about 2000 ... as
    that was the only way how my mailer/packer/tosser outfit could handle it.

    That it works for FrontDoor really comes as mo surprise ... I might even try it
    myself .... (just kidding)

    \%/@rd

    --- D'Bridge 3.99
    * Origin: I will always keep a PC running WinXP (2:292/854)
  • From Paul Hayton@3:770/100 to Ward Dossche on Sat Sep 30 09:37:11 2017
    On 09/29/17, Ward Dossche pondered and said...

    Hey Paul,

    Hi Ward.

    Yes, I did manage to get things working nicely between Mystic 1.12 A35 and FrontDoor 2.33 mL

    Nothing really extraordinary ... is it?

    I don't recall saying it was :)

    With other products I've been doing that since ... pffttt ... about 2000 ... as that was the only way how my mailer/packer/tosser outfit could handle it.

    Good for you.

    That it works for FrontDoor really comes as mo surprise ... I might even try it myself .... (just kidding)

    As always that's you prerogative Ward. I'm just posting a follow up to let folks know how I got on.

    Best, Paul

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A35 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | telnet://agency.bbs.geek.nz (3:770/100)
  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Paul Hayton on Fri Sep 29 23:18:33 2017

    Paul,

    As always that's you prerogative Ward. I'm just posting a follow up to
    let folks know how I got on.

    And keep on doing that, we can use some news on how others do things.

    \%/@rd

    --- D'Bridge 3.99
    * Origin: I will always keep a PC running WinXP (2:292/854)
  • From IB JOE@1:342/200 to Paul Hayton on Fri Sep 29 15:10:05 2017
    [snip]

    = 18:27:22 RING
    = 18:27:25 RING
    = 18:27:26 CONNECT 57600/ARQ
    18:27:26 Sending text in C:\FD\NOBBS.TXT
    + 18:27:28 Future Hacker Central, 21:3/101
    ~ 18:27:28 SysOp: Joaquim Homrighausen
    ~ 18:27:28 RegTo: Joaquim Homrighausen
    ~ 18:27:28 Using: FrontDoor 2.34.mL/JH000001
    : 18:27:28 RTime: 28 Sep 17, 7:27:28 (0200)
    : 18:27:28 LTime: 28 Sep 17, 18:27:26 (1200)
    ~ 18:27:28 Site: Stockholm, Sweden
    ~ 18:27:28 Flags: XA
    ~ 18:27:28 Phone: -Unpublished-
    - 18:27:28 sType: EMSI/MD5
    - 18:27:28 Password protected mail session
    * 18:27:30 Rcvd C:\FD\FILES\IN\076536A7.TH0; 637b, 0 CPS
    * 18:27:34 Sent C:\FD\JOHOOUT\0000FFFF.THH; 1040b, 1040 CPS
    18:27:34 Removed sent file C:\FD\JOHOOUT\0000FFFF.THH
    * 18:27:35 Sent C:\FD\JOHOOUT\0000FFFF.THI; 898b, 898 CPS
    18:27:35 Removed sent file C:\FD\JOHOOUT\0000FFFF.THI
    + 18:27:37 Mail transfer completed
    $ 18:27:37 From 21:3/101, 0:11, 0 (257 CPS)
    18:27:37 No messages to send in this event

    [snip]

    Nice, thanx for the share..

    IB JOE
    AKA Joe Schweier
    SysOp of Joe's Computer & BBS
    Telnet: joesbbs.com

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A35 (Raspberry Pi/32)
    * Origin: Joe's Computer & BBS -=joesbbs.com=- (1:342/200)
  • From Joe Bruchis@1:3828/12 to Paul Hayton on Fri Sep 29 15:33:45 2017

    Just an update for those of you that we're curious about this.

    Yes, I did manage to get things working nicely between Mystic 1.12 A35
    and
    FrontDoor 2.33 mL

    I used Netserial to create a virtual modem and have set up FD to communicate
    via that. Mystic in turn monitors for a semaphore when mail arrives and acts
    on the inbound directory that FD deposits packets in to.

    Cool. I'll bet that will work with Vmodem in Arca 5 OS/2.

    I have used the FD equivalent of a file box to point Mystic at for
    outgoing
    files to be sent via FD

    JoHo and I have echomail and netmail running across fsxNet (Zone 21) spanning
    the 3 x NETs currently in use.

    Congrats!

    Regards,
    Joe

    --- D'Bridge 3.99
    * Origin: (1:3828/12)
  • From Joaquim Homrighausen@2:20/4609 to Paul Hayton on Fri Sep 29 23:53:54 2017
    Just an update for those of you that we're curious about this.

    Yes, I did manage to get things working nicely between Mystic
    1.12 A35 and FrontDoor 2.33 mL

    Glad we (you) got that working so nicely.



    -joho

    ---
    * Origin: reboot.defsol.com (2:20/4609)
  • From Paul Hayton@3:770/100 to IB JOE on Sat Sep 30 15:26:28 2017
    On 09/29/17, IB JOE pondered and said...

    Nice, thanx for the share..

    You're most welcome Joe.

    Best, Paul

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A35 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | telnet://agency.bbs.geek.nz (3:770/100)
  • From Paul Hayton@3:770/100 to Joe Bruchis on Sat Sep 30 15:26:43 2017
    On 09/29/17, Joe Bruchis pondered and said...

    Cool. I'll bet that will work with Vmodem in Arca 5 OS/2.

    Give it a go :)

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A35 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | telnet://agency.bbs.geek.nz (3:770/100)
  • From Paul Hayton@3:770/100 to Joaquim Homrighausen on Sat Sep 30 15:27:00 2017
    On 09/29/17, Joaquim Homrighausen pondered and said...

    Glad we (you) got that working so nicely.

    It was a team effort :)

    Best, Paul

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A35 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | telnet://agency.bbs.geek.nz (3:770/100)
  • From Joacim Melin@2:201/120 to Paul Hayton on Sun Oct 1 09:02:06 2017
    PH─> Just an update for those of you that we're curious about this.

    PH─> Yes, I did manage to get things working nicely between Mystic 1.12
    PH─> A35 and
    PH─> FrontDoor 2.33 mL

    PH─> I used Netserial to create a virtual modem and have set up FD to communicate
    PH─> via that. Mystic in turn monitors for a semaphore when mail arrives
    PH─> and acts
    PH─> on the inbound directory that FD deposits packets in to.

    PH─> I have used the FD equivalent of a file box to point Mystic at for outgoing
    PH─> files to be sent via FD

    PH─> JoHo and I have echomail and netmail running across fsxNet (Zone 21) spanning
    PH─> the 3 x NETs currently in use.

    PH─> Here's a snip of the FD logging from a recent incoming session.

    PH─> [snip]

    PH─> = 18:27:22 RING
    PH─> = 18:27:25 RING
    PH─> = 18:27:26 CONNECT 57600/ARQ
    PH─> 18:27:26 Sending text in C:\FD\NOBBS.TXT
    PH─> + 18:27:28 Future Hacker Central, 21:3/101
    PH─> ~ 18:27:28 SysOp: Joaquim Homrighausen
    PH─> ~ 18:27:28 RegTo: Joaquim Homrighausen
    PH─> ~ 18:27:28 Using: FrontDoor 2.34.mL/JH000001
    PH─> : 18:27:28 RTime: 28 Sep 17, 7:27:28 (0200)
    PH─> : 18:27:28 LTime: 28 Sep 17, 18:27:26 (1200)
    PH─> ~ 18:27:28 Site: Stockholm, Sweden
    PH─> ~ 18:27:28 Flags: XA
    PH─> ~ 18:27:28 Phone: -Unpublished-
    PH─> - 18:27:28 sType: EMSI/MD5
    PH─> - 18:27:28 Password protected mail session
    PH─> * 18:27:30 Rcvd C:\FD\FILES\IN\076536A7.TH0; 637b, 0 CPS
    PH─> * 18:27:34 Sent C:\FD\JOHOOUT\0000FFFF.THH; 1040b, 1040 CPS
    PH─> 18:27:34 Removed sent file C:\FD\JOHOOUT\0000FFFF.THH
    PH─> * 18:27:35 Sent C:\FD\JOHOOUT\0000FFFF.THI; 898b, 898 CPS
    PH─> 18:27:35 Removed sent file C:\FD\JOHOOUT\0000FFFF.THI
    PH─> + 18:27:37 Mail transfer completed
    PH─> $ 18:27:37 From 21:3/101, 0:11, 0 (257 CPS)
    PH─> 18:27:37 No messages to send in this event

    PH─> [snip]

    PH─> Best, Paul

    Awesome!


    --- NiKom v2.3.1
    * Origin: Delta City (deltacity.se, Vallentuna, Sweden) (2:201/120.0)
  • From Phil Kimble@1:128/2 to Joacim Melin on Sun Oct 1 07:53:40 2017
    Very cool!


    --- Msged/LNX 6.1.2
    * Origin: Bayhaus.net - Colorado Springs, Co - Serving the FrontRang (1:128/2)
  • From Joaquim Homrighausen@2:20/4609 to Paul Hayton on Sun Oct 1 16:52:18 2017
    Glad we (you) got that working so nicely.

    It was a team effort :)

    Good things often are :)



    -joho

    ---
    * Origin: reboot.defsol.com (2:20/4609)
  • From IB JOE@1:342/200 to Paul Hayton on Sun Oct 1 22:24:08 2017
    I was playing around with FD/Netserial/netfoss...

    Ephen slow....

    what was your commandline for netfoss ?? Did you do anything to FD?? What about netserial??

    I mean sloooooow.... I have a VM with windows 10 32bit running this

    ideas??

    IB JOE
    AKA Joe Schweier
    SysOp of Joe's Computer & BBS
    Telnet: joesbbs.com

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A35 (Raspberry Pi/32)
    * Origin: Joe's Computer & BBS -=joesbbs.com=- (1:342/200)
  • From Joaquim Homrighausen@2:20/4609 to IB JOE on Mon Oct 2 09:01:34 2017
    I was playing around with FD/Netserial/netfoss...

    what was your commandline for netfoss ?? Did you do anything to
    FD?? What about netserial??

    I mean sloooooow.... I have a VM with windows 10 32bit running
    this

    There's not that much to configure. What is it that you experience being slow?



    -joho

    ---
    * Origin: reboot.defsol.com (2:20/4609)
  • From IB JOE@1:342/200 to Joaquim Homrighausen on Mon Oct 2 07:16:49 2017
    On 10/02/17, Joaquim Homrighausen said the following...

    I was playing around with FD/Netserial/netfoss...

    what was your commandline for netfoss ?? Did you do anything to
    FD?? What about netserial??

    I mean sloooooow.... I have a VM with windows 10 32bit running
    this

    There's not that much to configure. What is it that you experience being slow?


    If I used x00 FD would just load real nice. If I used netfoss it took a
    while to load... like it was hungup on something. One time I left it alone
    and it eventually loaded.

    the command for netfoss was netfoss /N1 /C2 /L38400

    Anyway, I might reboot the VM. Its a new install of Windows10 32bit

    :)

    IB JOE
    AKA Joe Schweier
    SysOp of Joe's Computer & BBS
    Telnet: joesbbs.com

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A35 (Raspberry Pi/32)
    * Origin: Joe's Computer & BBS -=joesbbs.com=- (1:342/200)
  • From Joacim Melin@2:201/120 to Joaquim Homrighausen on Tue Oct 3 08:31:46 2017
    I was playing around with FD/Netserial/netfoss...

    what was your commandline for netfoss ?? Did you do anything to
    FD?? What about netserial??

    I mean sloooooow.... I have a VM with windows 10 32bit running
    this

    There's not that much to configure. What is it that you experience
    being slow?



    -joho

    Windows 10 will be slow in a VM almost regardless. Using XP may (and is) a much
    worth user experience but it sure is faster with way less resources required.


    --- NiKom v2.3.1
    * Origin: Delta City (deltacity.se, Vallentuna, Sweden) (2:201/120.0)
  • From Paul Hayton@3:770/100 to IB JOE on Tue Oct 3 20:43:46 2017

    On 10/01/17, IB JOE pondered and said...

    I was playing around with FD/Netserial/netfoss...

    Ephen slow....

    what was your commandline for netfoss ?? Did you do anything to FD?? What about netserial??

    OK so I did not use Netfoss I used ADF as I had problems with Netfoss - not sure why.

    I used a batch file that shipped with ADF to set it as the fossil driver with COM2

    @echo off
    rem
    rem Loading ADF for COM2
    rem
    rem ΘÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄCOM-port number, COM1-COM127.
    rem ⁿ ΘÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄAddress in hex of COM-port, 0-FFFF.
    rem ⁿ ⁿ ΘÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄIRQ number of COM-port, 0-15.
    rem ⁿ ⁿ ⁿ ΘÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄLocked baud-rate, 1-115200.
    rem ⁿ ⁿ ⁿ ⁿ ΘÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄSize of receive buffer, 256-16384.
    rem ⁿ ⁿ ⁿ ⁿ ⁿ ΘÄÄÄÄSize of transmit buffer, 256-16384.
    rem ⁿ ⁿ ⁿ ⁿ ⁿ ⁿ ΘÄReceiver FIFO trigger level, 1, 4, 8,
    14.
    rem ⁿ ⁿ ⁿ ⁿ ⁿ ⁿ ⁿ
    adf COM2 2F8 3 57600 8192 8192 8
    rem ⁿ ⁿ
    rem ΘÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄδ ⁿ
    rem ⁿ ΘÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄδ Advanced options:
    rem ⁿ ⁿ
    rem 8192,7168,6144 16650,16,8 3 11
    rem ⁿ ⁿ ⁿ ⁿ ⁿ ⁿ
    rem ⁿ ⁿ ⁿ ⁿ ⁿ ╖Ä Modem Control Register.
    rem ⁿ ⁿ ⁿ ⁿ ╖ÄÄÄÄÄ Line Control Register.
    rem ⁿ ⁿ ⁿ ╖ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ 16650 Transmit FIFO trigger level:
    rem ⁿ ⁿ ⁿ 8, 16, 24 or 30.
    rem ⁿ ⁿ ╖ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ 16650 Receive FIFO trigger level:
    rem ⁿ ⁿ 8, 16, 24 or 28.
    rem ⁿ ╖ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ Flow control continue or restart.
    rem ╖ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ Flow control hold or stop.
    rem

    I have then had NetSerial running on COM2 and it's set to virtual modem accepting incoming traffic on the port I have advertised for 21:3/100

    As for FrontDoor... the settings I have used (with credit to JoHo) are

    [snip]

    FrontDoor Modem configuration (FDSETUP -> Modem)

    Serial port 2
    Locked port Yes
    Maximum BPS rate Fixed
    Reset modem to connect speed No
    Lower DTR when busy Yes
    Lower DTR to terminate call Yes
    Toggle DTR before dialing No
    CDMASK 128

    Connect messages, leave as is
    Status messages, leave as is

    Command strings
    Escape code ~+++~
    Return on-line ~ATO|
    On-hook ^ATM1H0|`^
    Off-hook ATM0H1|
    Dial AT
    Prefix DT
    Suffix |
    Delay 2
    Init-1 AT&D2&C1V1S95=3X4H0|`
    Init-2 and Init-3 <blank>
    TermInit AT&C1&D2|`
    Down AT&C1&D2H0|`
    Attention AT|

    Answer control

    Manual asnwer Yes (counter)
    Force answer command-1 ATA|
    Force answer command-2 <blank>
    Answer after ring # 2
    Enable LDFRS Yes
    "NO DIALTONE" is "BUSY" No
    Answer calls during init No

    [snip]

    I also *do not* run a virtual system I run a full blown PC running Win 7
    32bit.

    Hope that helps

    Best, Paul

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A35 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | telnet://agency.bbs.geek.nz (3:770/100)
  • From IB JOE@1:342/200 to Paul Hayton on Tue Oct 3 06:26:54 2017
    On 10/03/17, Paul Hayton said the following...
    OK so I did not use Netfoss I used ADF as I had problems with Netfoss - not sure why.


    What I will do is play around a little bit more then. I may just format a
    HDD and not have a VM. I'm going to look into netfoss one last time and see if ADF does a better job.

    Thanx

    IB JOE
    AKA Joe Schweier
    SysOp of Joe's Computer & BBS
    Telnet: joesbbs.com

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A35 (Raspberry Pi/32)
    * Origin: Joe's Computer & BBS -=joesbbs.com=- (1:342/200)
  • From Joaquim Homrighausen@2:20/4609 to Joacim Melin on Tue Oct 3 18:03:20 2017
    Windows 10 will be slow in a VM almost regardless. Using XP may
    (and is) a much worth user experience but it sure is faster with
    way less resources required.

    Ah, I missed that part :)

    XP flies in VirtualBox on the laptop where I run it most of the time. Granted, this is a damn high-end laptop, but it seems to put almost zero load on the system, even during max file transfers, etc.


    -joho

    ---
    * Origin: future hacker central (2:20/4609)