• Re: FD Beta

    From T.J. Mcmillen@1:229/426 to Mark Lewis on Sun Nov 18 14:31:22 2007
    But, I DO want to know what is new in BETA 2 of 2.33 if you can share! <G>

    Asking again as another year has passed. Allowed to spill the beans yet?

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  • From T.J. Mcmillen@1:229/426 to Jo Ho on Sun Nov 18 14:31:55 2007
    Well, I guess we shall see what happens if I can find all my tools
    again. I'll be re-organizing a few things over the coming weeks and months, and then I need to re-check if there's actually a need/want/whatever for me to get back into the loop :-)

    Well, there was lost hope 2 years ago! :(

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12 to T.J. Mcmillen on Sun Nov 18 19:51:49 2007

    But, I DO want to know what is new in BETA 2 of 2.33 if
    you can share! <G>

    Asking again as another year has passed. Allowed to spill the
    beans yet?

    unfortunately, i cannot spill anything WRT frontdoor at this point in time :?

    )\/(ark


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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12 to T.J. Mcmillen on Mon Nov 19 11:37:38 2007

    Well, there was lost hope 2 years ago! :(

    i can't say that :?

    )\/(ark


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  • From T.J. Mcmillen@1:129/305 to Mark Lewis on Mon Nov 19 14:49:09 2007
    Well, there was lost hope 2 years ago! :(

    i can't say that :?

    Well JoHo said he's still around, but no website update, no addressing my zmodem issue with FD (over 2 years now <G>) ... but no biggie ...

    ... Fahr-ferg-nug-en: German for "Can't afford the Mercedes."

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12 to T.J. Mcmillen on Tue Nov 20 10:00:22 2007

    Well, there was lost hope 2 years ago! :(

    i can't say that :?

    Well JoHo said he's still around,

    yes...

    but no website update,

    yeah... ok... ??

    no addressing my zmodem issue with FD (over 2 years now <G>) ...

    please refresh my memory on this... i know you've had problems but i don't remember the specifics...

    but no biggie ...

    ;)

    )\/(ark


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  • From T.J. Mcmillen@1:129/305 to Mark Lewis on Tue Nov 20 15:02:00 2007
    no addressing my zmodem issue with FD (over 2 years now <G>) ...

    please refresh my memory on this... i know you've had problems but i don't remember the specifics...

    Constant resending a file and never completing it. The file would resend, resend, resend (retry), until it timed out. Had to have the user delete the msg packet so we could transfer mail again. Just think ZMODEM needs optimized to run under Win32 a bit. Always worked GREAT under OS/2 tho.

    but no website update,

    yeah... ok... ??

    The news page hasn't been updated since they release XROBOT on Dec. 1999.

    www.defsol.se

    correct?

    Well, there was lost hope 2 years ago! :(

    i can't say that :?

    I can. :(

    ... I just need enough to tide me over until I need more.

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12 to T.J. Mcmillen on Tue Nov 20 23:28:42 2007
    no addressing my zmodem issue with FD (over 2 years now <G>) ...

    please refresh my memory on this... i know you've had problems but
    i don't
    remember the specifics...

    Constant resending a file and never completing it. The file would resend, resend, resend (retry), until it timed out. Had to have
    the user delete the msg packet so we could transfer mail again.
    Just think ZMODEM needs optimized to run under Win32 a bit.
    Always worked GREAT under OS/2 tho.

    mmmmmm... is this mailer to mailer on POTS or something else?

    but no website update,

    yeah... ok... ??

    The news page hasn't been updated since they release XROBOT on
    Dec. 1999.

    yeah, ok? ??

    www.defsol.se

    correct?

    yup...

    Well, there was lost hope 2 years ago! :(

    i can't say that :?

    I can. :(

    sorry 'bout that :?

    )\/(ark


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  • From T.J. Mcmillen@1:129/305 to Mark Lewis on Wed Nov 21 07:48:03 2007
    mmmmmm... is this mailer to mailer on POTS or something else?

    No, mailer to mailer via telnet is the issue.

    Later!

    ... Christmas is coming, the geese are getting *very* worried

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12 to T.J. Mcmillen on Thu Nov 22 09:28:47 2007

    mmmmmm... is this mailer to mailer on POTS or something else?

    No, mailer to mailer via telnet is the issue.

    ok... so what is the issue?

    i ran FD over telnet on dialup for years without any problems to speak of... now on 3M/384k DSL some minor anomolies do not appear any more so i assume that
    they are/were timing based due to the limited dialup connection bandwidth...

    1. what are your machine's specs?
    a. CPU and mhz
    b. memory
    c. hard disk size
    2. what OS?
    3. what FOSSIL?
    4. what telnet shim or virtual modem?
    5. what version of FD?
    6. describe the actual problem you are seeing.
    7. post log snippets showing problem.

    all i/we can do is try to help...

    )\/(ark


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  • From T.J. Mcmillen@1:129/305 to Mark Lewis on Thu Nov 22 14:41:05 2007
    1. what are your machine's specs?
    a. CPU and mhz
    b. memory
    c. hard disk size

    AMD 1700+, 512 MB RAM, 2 80 GIG DRIVES

    2. what OS?

    WinXP

    3. what FOSSIL?

    NetFOSS

    4. what telnet shim or virtual modem?

    NetSerial (Com/IP was worse!)

    5. what version of FD?

    2.33.mL

    6. describe the actual problem you are seeing.

    As I stated, on some packets, fd would resend from ZERO (0 bytes), 18-20 times over and over and not be able to complete the connection until it finally timed out and failed. Thus it would try to send and/or receive (depending which way it wouldn't transfer), over and over and over and over. Thus forcing me to get a hold of my unlink to kill the packet or if it's on this end, kill the packet here.

    7. post log snippets showing problem.

    Don't use FD to transfer anymore because of the above, so I have no such log files any longer.

    all i/we can do is try to help...

    Thanks!

    ... Define the universe. Give three examples.

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12 to T.J. Mcmillen on Fri Nov 23 12:57:00 2007

    i forgot to ask and you forgot to tell... what type of internet connection?

    )\/(ark


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  • From T.J. Mcmillen@1:129/305 to Mark Lewis on Fri Nov 23 16:26:39 2007
    i forgot to ask and you forgot to tell... what type of internet connection?

    DSL ... did the same years back when I had cable.

    ... It takes a long time to grow an old friend.

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12 to T.J. Mcmillen on Sat Nov 24 12:54:57 2007

    i forgot to ask and you forgot to tell... what type of internet
    connection?

    DSL ... did the same years back when I had cable.

    what did the other end have? software and connection...

    the reason i ask is that i've only ever seen this on high-latency connections like dialup on paths with overly busy routers and such...

    there was a lot of work done in the transfer engine to relax the timings for these types of problems...

    )\/(ark


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  • From T.J. Mcmillen@1:129/305 to Mark Lewis on Sat Nov 24 16:41:19 2007
    the reason i ask is that i've only ever seen this on high-latency connectio like dialup on paths with overly busy routers and such...

    One was FD 2.12.SW ... one was 2.20c ... one was Argus ... and I forget what the other uplink was.

    there was a lot of work done in the transfer engine to relax the timings fo these types of problems...

    Wish I had that version! ;)

    ... Gun Control means using 2 hands

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12 to T.J. Mcmillen on Sun Nov 25 14:50:13 2007

    the reason i ask is that i've only ever seen this on high-latency
    connectio
    like dialup on paths with overly busy routers and such...

    One was FD 2.12.SW ... one was 2.20c ... one was Argus ... and I
    forget what the other uplink was.

    there was a lot of work done in the transfer engine to relax the
    timings fo
    these types of problems...

    it was all in the latest public and pay-for multiline version, AFAIR...

    )\/(ark


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  • From T.J. Mcmillen@1:129/305 to Mark Lewis on Sun Nov 25 20:21:49 2007
    it was all in the latest public and pay-for multiline version, AFAIR...

    What?

    it was all in the latest public and pay-for multiline version, AFAIR...

    I paid for v2.20c, upgraded to 2.30, then 2.31, 2.32, and to 2.33 ... I paid for the 2.12.SW (which was 2.11 at the time), and then also paid the $$$ for the multiline version which I am running now. If I didn't pay for FD, I wouldn't even bother using it now-a-days.

    ... Living: The best demonstration of victory over mortality.

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12 to T.J. Mcmillen on Tue Nov 27 11:19:49 2007
    it was all in the latest public and pay-for multiline version, AFAIR...

    What?

    what what? the fixes or As Far As I Recall?

    it was all in the latest public and pay-for multiline version, AFAIR...

    I paid for v2.20c, upgraded to 2.30, then 2.31, 2.32, and to 2.33
    ... I paid for the 2.12.SW (which was 2.11 at the time), and then
    also paid the $$$ for the multiline version which I am running
    now. If I didn't pay for FD, I wouldn't even bother using it now-a-days.

    i think you should have it, then... dunno what could be the problem... like i said before, i only saw problems like that on congested/slow pipes...

    )\/(ark


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  • From T.J. Mcmillen@1:129/305 to Mark Lewis on Tue Nov 27 12:30:25 2007
    i think you should have it, then... dunno what could be the problem... like said before, i only saw problems like that on congested/slow pipes...

    Unless there was some "minor" no documented change in the beta you are running. Dunno.

    ... Dracula was a vein man...

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  • From T.J. Mcmillen@1:129/305 to Mark Lewis on Sun Dec 2 22:20:24 2007
    i think you should have it, then... dunno what could be the problem... like said before, i only saw problems like that on congested/slow pipes...

    My other issue is the IP address being trucated ie:

    199.99.999.99 would show up in the DOBBSx.BAT file as 1999999999.

    I am using NetSerial/NetFOSS (Contacted Mike @ PCMicro Already), but being you're running a beta, maybe you can see something.

    Whenever I answer FD via terminal mode, the IP displays PERFECTLY. But once I have FD pass the information onto the DOBBSx.BAT file to load the BBS here is what I get.

    EXEBBS 115200 2 10080 1 /ARQ/7125343200 N/A

    Which under ALT-J (Terminal mode from WFC), it would show as 71.253.43.200 whenever I answered the "RING" ....

    I never really paid much attention when I was using OS/2 and SIO, so I'm not sure if it worked then or not.

    Any ideas would be GREATLY appreciated! Or some help from JoHo or Mats. Or at very least them being notified on the problem.

    Thanks!

    ... You remind me of myself, confused and hungover...

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  • From T.J. Mcmillen@1:129/305 to Mark Lewis on Sun Jan 6 12:43:40 2008
    i think you should have it, then... dunno what could be the problem... like said before, i only saw problems like that on congested/slow pipes...

    My other issue is the IP address being trucated ie:

    199.99.999.99 would show up in the DOBBSx.BAT file as 1999999999.

    I am using NetSerial/NetFOSS (Contacted Mike @ PCMicro Already), but being you're running a beta, maybe you can see something.

    Whenever I answer FD via terminal mode, the IP displays PERFECTLY. But onc have FD pass the information onto the DOBBSx.BAT file to load the BBS here what I get.

    EXEBBS 115200 2 10080 1 /ARQ/7125343200 N/A

    Which under ALT-J (Terminal mode from WFC), it would show as 71.253.43.200 whenever I answered the "RING" ....

    I never really paid much attention when I was using OS/2 and SIO, so I'm no sure if it worked then or not.

    Any ideas would be GREATLY appreciated! Or some help from JoHo or Mats. O at very least them being notified on the problem.

    Thanks!

    Replying agian .. please read the quoted message if you didn't get it the first time I sent it a month ago.

    ... Divorce is not an effective deterrent to marriage.

    --- Renegade v12-07.7/Alpha
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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12 to T.J. Mcmillen on Sat Jan 12 14:00:07 2008

    Replying agian .. please read the quoted message if you didn't get
    it the first time I sent it a month ago.

    i got it the first time you posted it...

    i don't know why it would be being written to the dobbs file like that... everything that i see here seems to show that FD writes the connecting number as it received it from the "modem device"... my USRs send caller id data preformatted and my telnet shim also writes IP numbers formatted with the dots in the proper places... FD, as far as i can see, doesn't unformat them :?

    )\/(ark


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  • From T.J. Mcmillen@1:129/305 to Mark Lewis on Sat Jan 12 22:12:41 2008
    i got it the first time you posted it...

    i don't know why it would be being written to the dobbs file like that... everything that i see here seems to show that FD writes the connecting numb as it received it from the "modem device"... my USRs send caller id data preformatted and my telnet shim also writes IP numbers formatted with the d in the proper places... FD, as far as i can see, doesn't unformat them :?

    Humm .. wish JoHo or Mats would stop by ... maybe they know the "stupid" answer. ;)

    ... Auntie Em: Hate you. Hate Kansas. Took the Dog. Dorothy.

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  • From Mvan Le@3:800/432 to T.J. Mcmillen on Mon Jan 21 11:59:24 2008
    I paid for v2.20c, upgraded to 2.30, then 2.31, 2.32,
    and to 2.33 ... I paid
    for the 2.12.SW (which was 2.11 at the time), and then
    also paid the $$$ for
    the multiline version which I am running now. If I didn't pay for FD, I wouldn't even bother using it now-a-days.

    Heh, Heh.

    The moral of the story is, never pay for anything.

    Except maybe Netserial.


    --- Maximus 3.01
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  • From T.J. Mcmillen@1:129/305 to Mvan Le on Sun Jan 20 23:19:23 2008
    Except maybe Netserial.

    Paid for that as well ... well worth the money also.

    ... What does the Infantry call Airborne? Skeet Shoot!

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  • From Mvan Le@3:800/432 to T.J. Mcmillen on Wed Jan 23 11:50:46 2008
    Except maybe Netserial.

    Paid for that as well ... well worth the money also.

    What's the maximum number of virtual comports for the Netserial SysOp version ?

    --- Maximus 3.01
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  • From T.J. Mcmillen@1:129/305 to Mvan Le on Tue Jan 22 23:47:53 2008
    What's the maximum number of virtual comports for the Netserial SysOp versi

    256 IIRC. I only use 1 - 4 ... so I never really paid much notice.

    ... On Fidonet, nobody knows you're naked.

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  • From Rob Harris@1:129/305 to Jo Ho on Fri Jun 20 22:09:02 2008
    yes there is

    I for one can not get FD 1.26sw working on this box.
    and would love a working copy.

    and dont like argus very much.

    thanks
    rob.

    ... Quick, easy, enlightenment; Just axe for it.

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