Should we just start to insitutionalize the homeless that are beyond any help? >That is one debate topic that might be worth talking about. Since California >is the poverty capital of the nation.

Well, I don't know about all the homeless, but a lot of them do have mental illnesses and would probably get better care in an institution vs. the
streets.

The US (and other parts of the developed world) started having a "homeless problem" when the government decided to stop instituionalizing the mentally ill. Conditions in the institutions were not great but, rather than fix
them, they closed them down. IMHO, they did it partially to save money and partially to make the liberals, who thought institionalizing the mentally ill was inhumane, happy.

There is a book called "The Psychopath's Test" that goes into some detail
about the well-meaning hippy-types who thought the criminally insane could
be rehabilitated in less institutional-type settings (think group homes run
by hippy therapists). Their "commited murder again" rates were not too
good.

Also IMHO, the number of national-headline-grabbing violent acts would go
way down if we went back to institutionalizing some of these folks before
they actually commit a mass-murder/suicide rather than wondering why after
the fact.

Mike

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Re: the homeless
By: Mike Powell to MATT MUNSON on Sun May 06 2018 06:41 pm

Should we just start to insitutionalize the homeless that are beyond
any help? That is one debate topic that might be worth talking about.
Since California is the poverty capital of the nation.

Wait...What?? Seriously??

Well, I don't know about all the homeless, but a lot of them do have mental illnesses and would probably get better care in an institution vs. the streets.

You know there are other alternatives other than being institutionalized or being homeless. Just because our government is too stupid to think of them doesn't mean they don't exist. This all or nothing attitude in our society is the first thing that needs to be fixed. Where did the government think all the people in institutions were going to go after they shut them down??
That's my 2 cents anywayz.
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You know there are other alternatives other than being institutionalized or
being homeless. Just because our government is too stupid to think of them >doesn't mean they don't exist. This all or nothing attitude in our society is >the first thing that needs to be fixed. Where did the government think all the >people in institutions were going to go after they shut them down??
That's my 2 cents anywayz.

Yes, I do know, which is why I mentioned those half-way houses in my
message. I also mentioned my opinion, one I share with others, regarding
those places.

I don't think the government gave it any thought at all. It saved money
and got the do-gooders-but-not-really off their backs so they probably
didn't care what happened to them.

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RE: Re: the homeless
BY: Steve Wolf(1:275/89)

Since California is the poverty capital of the nation.

Wait...What?? Seriously??

We have the most people on Medi-Aid, food stamps (snap) here.

the first thing that needs to be fixed. Where did the government think
all the
people in institutions were going to go after they shut them down??

Government never looks at the externalities.
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Should we just start to insitutionalize the homeless that are beyond any help? That is one debate topic that might be worth talking about. Since California is the poverty capital of the nation.

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Hello Steve.

08 May 18 16:01, you wrote to Mike Powell:

You know there are other alternatives other than being
institutionalized or being homeless. Just because our government is
too stupid to think of them doesn't mean they don't exist. This all or nothing attitude in our society is the first thing that needs to be
fixed. Where did the government think all the people in institutions
were going to go after they shut them down?? That's my 2 cents
anywayz.

What options would there be?

Flavio

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