• Pinnacle Studio and WinDV freeze up after long idle period, can't

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    From: Doc <docsavage20@yahoo.com>
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    Subject: Pinnacle Studio and WinDV freeze up after long idle period, can't
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    Have run into an odd problem I've never encountered before. Under an
    install of XP Pro SP3, I find that if Pinnacle Studio 9 sits idle for
    a long period ("long" being undetermined at this point) I find it
    freezes up and can neither use it or close it down, even with Task
    Manager. Have to hit the reset button and reboot. Have never
    encountered this before. As it so happens this is the only machine
    running XP pro I've had it on, had it on XP Home and Media Center
    before this. When it's working initially it works fine. Will capture,
    edit, make a DVD.

    I thought it might be an issue with Pinnacle so I loaded WinDV but am
    finding the same issue, so it seems it's related to whatever
    commonality there is between them.

    The other thing I notice is the machine falls into a state where it
    shows 50% use of the processor on a Core2 Duo system.

    Anyone else encountered this and found a way around it?

    Thanks.
    --- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v3.1
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    From: Brian <bclark@es.co.nz>
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    Subject: Re: Pinnacle Studio and WinDV freeze up after long idle period, can't even end with Task Manager
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    Doc <docsavage20@yahoo.com> wrote:

    Have run into an odd problem I've never encountered before. Under an
    install of XP Pro SP3, I find that if Pinnacle Studio 9 sits idle for
    a long period ("long" being undetermined at this point) I find it
    freezes up and can neither use it or close it down, even with Task
    Manager. Have to hit the reset button and reboot. Have never
    encountered this before. As it so happens this is the only machine
    running XP pro I've had it on, had it on XP Home and Media Center
    before this. When it's working initially it works fine. Will capture,
    edit, make a DVD.

    I thought it might be an issue with Pinnacle so I loaded WinDV but am
    finding the same issue, so it seems it's related to whatever
    commonality there is between them.

    The other thing I notice is the machine falls into a state where it
    shows 50% use of the processor on a Core2 Duo system.

    Anyone else encountered this and found a way around it?

    Thanks.

    It sounds like your computer is going into sleep mode. You may have to
    check the BIOS settings on your computer. It could be that the hard
    drives are powering down into standby mode and are failing to wake up,
    it's also a energy saving mode, especially if you have Green Western
    Digital hard drives on your computer. Most of this can be fixed by
    finding the standby (or power saver) settings in your bios and
    changing them so the computer does not go into standby mode.

    I'd also suggest closing down programs running in the background that
    you don't need. If a program in the background pop's up a window
    wanting the user to click on a button in the window then this can
    cause the computer to appear to lock up. The pop-up window can be
    hidden by the screen of Pinnacle Studio.

    Most video editors use space on the hard drive when writing temporary
    files such as partly rendering a video. Make sure you have enough hard
    disc space and enough computer memory. Check the minimum requirements
    for Pinnacle Studio. Also check for Pinnacle Studio updates.

    Regards Brian
    --- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v3.1
    * Origin: Prison Board BBS Mesquite Tx //telnet.RDFIG.NET www. (1:124/5013)
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    From: Doc <docsavage20@yahoo.com>
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    Subject: Re: Pinnacle Studio and WinDV freeze up after long idle period, can't
    even end with Task Manager
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    On Feb 7, 11:23ápm, Brian <bcl...@es.co.nz> wrote:

    It sounds like your computer is going into sleep mode. You may have to
    check the BIOS settings on your computer. It could be that the hard
    drives are powering down into standby mode and are failing to wake up


    I don't think so, I can bring up and use other apps which of course
    require the involvement of the C drive, these just get frozen.
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    Subject: Re: Pinnacle Studio and WinDV freeze up after long idle period, can't
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    On 8/02/2011 3:23 PM, Brian wrote:
    Doc<docsavage20@yahoo.com> wrote:

    Have run into an odd problem I've never encountered before. Under an
    install of XP Pro SP3, I find that if Pinnacle Studio 9 sits idle for
    a long period ("long" being undetermined at this point) I find it
    freezes up and can neither use it or close it down, even with Task
    Manager. Have to hit the reset button and reboot. Have never
    encountered this before. As it so happens this is the only machine
    running XP pro I've had it on, had it on XP Home and Media Center
    before this. When it's working initially it works fine. Will capture,
    edit, make a DVD.

    I thought it might be an issue with Pinnacle so I loaded WinDV but am
    finding the same issue, so it seems it's related to whatever
    commonality there is between them.

    The other thing I notice is the machine falls into a state where it
    shows 50% use of the processor on a Core2 Duo system.

    Anyone else encountered this and found a way around it?

    Thanks.

    take the cover off and check to see if cpu, psu and all other fans are
    free and clear of dust.
    sounds like cutting out due to overheating.
    --- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v3.1
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    From: Winniethepooh@100acrewoods.org (GMAN)
    Subject: Re: Pinnacle Studio and WinDV freeze up after long idle period, can't even end with Task Manager
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    In article <9mg1l65rluoopvu19uonb9ft3dbisvtl2o@4ax.com>, bclark@es.co.nz wrote: >Doc <docsavage20@yahoo.com> wrote:

    Have run into an odd problem I've never encountered before. Under an >>install of XP Pro SP3, I find that if Pinnacle Studio 9 sits idle for
    a long period ("long" being undetermined at this point) I find it
    freezes up and can neither use it or close it down, even with Task
    Manager. Have to hit the reset button and reboot. Have never
    encountered this before. As it so happens this is the only machine
    running XP pro I've had it on, had it on XP Home and Media Center
    before this. When it's working initially it works fine. Will capture,
    edit, make a DVD.

    I thought it might be an issue with Pinnacle so I loaded WinDV but am >>finding the same issue, so it seems it's related to whatever
    commonality there is between them.

    The other thing I notice is the machine falls into a state where it
    shows 50% use of the processor on a Core2 Duo system.

    Anyone else encountered this and found a way around it?

    Thanks.

    It sounds like your computer is going into sleep mode. You may have to
    check the BIOS settings on your computer. It could be that the hard
    drives are powering down into standby mode and are failing to wake up,
    it's also a energy saving mode, especially if you have Green Western
    Digital hard drives on your computer. Most of this can be fixed by
    finding the standby (or power saver) settings in your bios and
    changing them so the computer does not go into standby mode.

    No, the slowdown sounds more like the "Intel Speedstep technology" kicking in

    http://www.intel.com/support/processors/sb/cs-028855.htm


    The crashing is due to the fact that Pinnacle 9 and just about every other version of Pinnacle has been buggy as hell.

    They are already at 14 with 15 comeing shortly.


    I'd also suggest closing down programs running in the background that
    you don't need. If a program in the background pop's up a window
    wanting the user to click on a button in the window then this can
    cause the computer to appear to lock up. The pop-up window can be
    hidden by the screen of Pinnacle Studio.

    Most video editors use space on the hard drive when writing temporary
    files such as partly rendering a video. Make sure you have enough hard
    disc space and enough computer memory. Check the minimum requirements
    for Pinnacle Studio. Also check for Pinnacle Studio updates.

    Regards Brian
    --- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v3.1
    * Origin: Prison Board BBS Mesquite Tx //telnet.RDFIG.NET www. (1:124/5013)
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    On Tue, 08 Feb 2011 17:33:22 GMT, GMAN wrote:

    No, the slowdown sounds more like the "Intel Speedstep technology" kicking in

    http://www.intel.com/support/processors/sb/cs-028855.htm


    The crashing is due to the fact that Pinnacle 9 and just about every other version of Pinnacle has been buggy as hell.

    They are already at 14 with 15 comeing shortly.

    I agree, in a sense: I gave up on Pinnacle somewhere around version 8,
    so I can't report from any direct experience with later versions - and I
    like it that way :-)

    --
    Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)
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    On 2/8/2011 4:47 PM, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
    On Tue, 08 Feb 2011 17:33:22 GMT, GMAN wrote:

    No, the slowdown sounds more like the "Intel Speedstep technology" kicking in

    http://www.intel.com/support/processors/sb/cs-028855.htm


    The crashing is due to the fact that Pinnacle 9 and just about every other >> version of Pinnacle has been buggy as hell.

    They are already at 14 with 15 comeing shortly.

    I agree, in a sense: I gave up on Pinnacle somewhere around version 8,
    so I can't report from any direct experience with later versions - and I
    like it that way :-)


    For me, Pinnacle became more-or-less usable around V9.5. It seems like
    there is no Beta testing except by people who actually buy the product,
    so it takes about 9 months for them to get something stable... I'm
    using Sony Vegas now, with about 1% of the crashes.
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    From: Brian <bclark@es.co.nz>
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    Winniethepooh@100acrewoods.org (GMAN) wrote:




    The crashing is due to the fact that Pinnacle 9 and just about every other >version of Pinnacle has been buggy as hell.

    They are already at 14 with 15 comeing shortly.


    After all these years Pinnacle is still buggy. I remember people
    having problems with Pinnacle crashing on this newsgroup a long time
    ago.

    Regards Brian
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    On Wed, 09 Feb 2011 16:42:50 +1300, Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> wrote:

    After all these years Pinnacle is still buggy. ...
    ... Pinnacle crashing

    I have often had Pinnacle fail writing DVD data jobs, only slightly less fragile than Nero.
    This only happened when I used Imation DVD-RW discs, other DVD discs seem to work fine, so I'm
    assuming it was the media rather than Pinnacle. Still a pain though.
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    On 10/02/2011 09:38, gargoyle60 wrote:
    On Wed, 09 Feb 2011 16:42:50 +1300, Brian<bclark@es.co.nz> wrote:

    After all these years Pinnacle is still buggy. ...
    ... Pinnacle crashing

    I have often had Pinnacle fail writing DVD data jobs, only slightly less
    fragile than Nero.
    This only happened when I used Imation DVD-RW discs, other DVD discs seem to
    work fine, so I'm
    assuming it was the media rather than Pinnacle. Still a pain though.

    Pain where? ;-)

    And what do you mean, Pinnacle is "only slightly less fragile than
    Nero". I used Nero for donkey's years and it never ever let me down.

    Using Roxio now with my new Win7 machine. Haven't decided whether it is equally as good as Nero yet. I doubt that it is better than Nero as Nero
    never let me down, as I've already pointed out.

    Know nothing about Pinnacle though as I've never used it.
    --
    choro
    *****
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    On Thu, 10 Feb 2011 10:44:08 +0000, choro <choro@tvco.net> wrote:

    And what do you mean, Pinnacle is "only slightly less fragile than
    Nero".

    ....in the sense that with the Imation DVD-RWs Nero also used to fail to write,
    even though the discs
    passed all the analysis tests according to some of the Nero tools/utilities.

    Apart from those failures, rarely has Nero let me down, although it sometimes cannot perform a full
    erase on some of my CD-RW discs.
    --- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v3.1
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    From: Voltaire <Voltaire@Spamex.com>
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    On Thu, 10 Feb 2011 15:03:01 +0000, gargoyle60
    <gargoyle60@example.invalid> wrote:

    On Thu, 10 Feb 2011 10:44:08 +0000, choro <choro@tvco.net> wrote:

    And what do you mean, Pinnacle is "only slightly less fragile than
    Nero".

    ...in the sense that with the Imation DVD-RWs Nero also used to fail to write,
    even though the discs
    passed all the analysis tests according to some of the Nero tools/utilities.

    Apart from those failures, rarely has Nero let me down, although it sometimes cannot perform a full
    erase on some of my CD-RW discs.

    My God, someone actually still uses those? [:)>
    --- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v3.1
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    From: Patok <crazy.div.patok@gmail.com>
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    Voltaire wrote:
    On Thu, 10 Feb 2011 15:03:01 +0000, gargoyle60 <gargoyle60@example.invalid> wrote:

    On Thu, 10 Feb 2011 10:44:08 +0000, choro <choro@tvco.net> wrote:

    And what do you mean, Pinnacle is "only slightly less fragile than Nero". >>>
    ...in the sense that with the Imation DVD-RWs Nero also used to fail to
    write, even though the discs passed all the analysis tests according to
    some of the Nero tools/utilities.

    Apart from those failures, rarely has Nero let me down, although it
    sometimes cannot perform a full erase on some of my CD-RW discs.

    My God, someone actually still uses those? [:)>

    Duh. What do *you* use?

    --
    You'd be crazy to e-mail me with the crazy. But leave the div alone.
    --
    Whoever bans a book, shall be banished. Whoever burns a book, shall burn.
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    From: "Gene E. Bloch" <not-me@other.invalid>
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    On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 12:47:17 -0500, Patok wrote:

    Voltaire wrote:
    On Thu, 10 Feb 2011 15:03:01 +0000, gargoyle60 <gargoyle60@example.invalid> >> wrote:

    On Thu, 10 Feb 2011 10:44:08 +0000, choro <choro@tvco.net> wrote:

    And what do you mean, Pinnacle is "only slightly less fragile than Nero". >>>>
    ...in the sense that with the Imation DVD-RWs Nero also used to fail to
    write, even though the discs passed all the analysis tests according to
    some of the Nero tools/utilities.

    Apart from those failures, rarely has Nero let me down, although it
    sometimes cannot perform a full erase on some of my CD-RW discs.

    My God, someone actually still uses those? [:)>

    Duh. What do *you* use?

    I use cork disks for my beer glasses. The CD-RWs have a hole, so the
    table-top can get wet.

    --
    Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)
    --- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v3.1
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    From: Brian <bclark@es.co.nz>
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    "Gene E. Bloch" <not-me@other.invalid> wrote:

    On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 12:47:17 -0500, Patok wrote:

    Voltaire wrote:
    On Thu, 10 Feb 2011 15:03:01 +0000, gargoyle60 <gargoyle60@example.invalid> >>> wrote:

    On Thu, 10 Feb 2011 10:44:08 +0000, choro <choro@tvco.net> wrote:

    And what do you mean, Pinnacle is "only slightly less fragile than Nero". >>>>>
    ...in the sense that with the Imation DVD-RWs Nero also used to fail to >>>> write, even though the discs passed all the analysis tests according to >>>> some of the Nero tools/utilities.

    Apart from those failures, rarely has Nero let me down, although it
    sometimes cannot perform a full erase on some of my CD-RW discs.

    My God, someone actually still uses those? [:)>

    Duh. What do *you* use?

    I use cork disks for my beer glasses. The CD-RWs have a hole, so the >table-top can get wet.

    Someone should write a book on the uses of faulty DVD/CD discs.
    Has anyone found a use for the containers that blank discs come in?

    Regards Brian
    --- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v3.1
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    From: Voltaire <Voltaire@Spamex.com>
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    On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 12:47:17 -0500, Patok <crazy.div.patok@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    Voltaire wrote:
    On Thu, 10 Feb 2011 15:03:01 +0000, gargoyle60 <gargoyle60@example.invalid> >> wrote:

    On Thu, 10 Feb 2011 10:44:08 +0000, choro <choro@tvco.net> wrote:

    And what do you mean, Pinnacle is "only slightly less fragile than Nero". >>>>
    ...in the sense that with the Imation DVD-RWs Nero also used to fail to
    write, even though the discs passed all the analysis tests according to
    some of the Nero tools/utilities.

    Apart from those failures, rarely has Nero let me down, although it
    sometimes cannot perform a full erase on some of my CD-RW discs.

    My God, someone actually still uses those? ([:>}

    Duh. What do *you* use?

    I use USB thumb drives. My favorite are the ones that hold SD cards.
    I usually keep one in my pocket that has a 32G card slid into it. I
    found the CD-RW disks would slit my pants in a few weeks or so.

    ([:>}



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    Voltaire wrote:
    Patok <crazy.div.patok@gmail.com> wrote:
    Voltaire wrote:
    gargoyle60 <gargoyle60@example.invalid> wrote:
    On Thu, 10 Feb 2011 10:44:08 +0000, choro <choro@tvco.net> wrote:

    And what do you mean, Pinnacle is "only slightly less fragile than Nero". >>>>>
    ...in the sense that with the Imation DVD-RWs Nero also used to fail to >>>> write, even though the discs passed all the analysis tests according to >>>> some of the Nero tools/utilities.

    Apart from those failures, rarely has Nero let me down, although it
    sometimes cannot perform a full erase on some of my CD-RW discs.
    My God, someone actually still uses those? ([:>}
    Duh. What do *you* use?

    I use USB thumb drives. My favorite are the ones that hold SD cards.
    I usually keep one in my pocket that has a 32G card slid into it. I
    found the CD-RW disks would slit my pants in a few weeks or so.

    Oh. So your DVD player takes thumb drives? :) And then of course I misread your post. I thought you were questioning Nero and Pinnacle, while in fact it was the CD-RW disks. With *that* sentiment I can agree.

    --
    You'd be crazy to e-mail me with the crazy. But leave the div alone.
    --
    Whoever bans a book, shall be banished. Whoever burns a book, shall burn.
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    From: Voltaire <Voltaire@Spamex.com>
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    On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 14:48:21 -0500, Patok <crazy.div.patok@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    Voltaire wrote:
    Patok <crazy.div.patok@gmail.com> wrote:
    Voltaire wrote:
    gargoyle60 <gargoyle60@example.invalid> wrote:
    On Thu, 10 Feb 2011 10:44:08 +0000, choro <choro@tvco.net> wrote:

    And what do you mean, Pinnacle is "only slightly less fragile than Nero".

    ...in the sense that with the Imation DVD-RWs Nero also used to fail to >>>>> write, even though the discs passed all the analysis tests according to >>>>> some of the Nero tools/utilities.

    Apart from those failures, rarely has Nero let me down, although it
    sometimes cannot perform a full erase on some of my CD-RW discs.
    My God, someone actually still uses those? ([:>}
    Duh. What do *you* use?

    I use USB thumb drives. My favorite are the ones that hold SD cards.
    I usually keep one in my pocket that has a 32G card slid into it. I
    found the CD-RW disks would slit my pants in a few weeks or so.

    Oh. So your DVD player takes thumb drives? :) And then of course I misread
    your post. I thought you were questioning Nero and Pinnacle, while in fact it >was the CD-RW disks. With *that* sentiment I can agree.

    --
    I would have thought by now all DVDs would have been rendered
    completely obsolete. Movies can be downloaded for rental or purchase.
    Swapping videos can be done better using memory cards that are more
    reliable, quicker and cheaper if you consider they are reusable and
    the time it takes for a burn. My Netbook only has a slot for SD card.
    I have never missed not having a CD/DVD drive. Most of my video
    content is uploaded to YouTube in high def. I watch Blu-Ray on my
    desktop player with 3-D coming next. Now if we can convince the
    viewers of the wedding events and such to go memory card the world
    will be a much better place to view.
    --- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v3.1
    * Origin: Prison Board BBS Mesquite Tx //telnet.RDFIG.NET www. (1:124/5013)
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    From: "Gene E. Bloch" <not-me@other.invalid>
    Newsgroups: rec.video.desktop,microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support,microsoft.public. windowsxp.general
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    On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 15:52:09 -0500, Voltaire wrote:

    On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 14:48:21 -0500, Patok <crazy.div.patok@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    Voltaire wrote:
    Patok <crazy.div.patok@gmail.com> wrote:
    Voltaire wrote:
    gargoyle60 <gargoyle60@example.invalid> wrote:
    On Thu, 10 Feb 2011 10:44:08 +0000, choro <choro@tvco.net> wrote:

    And what do you mean, Pinnacle is "only slightly less fragile than Nero".

    ...in the sense that with the Imation DVD-RWs Nero also used to fail to >>>>>> write, even though the discs passed all the analysis tests according to >>>>>> some of the Nero tools/utilities.

    Apart from those failures, rarely has Nero let me down, although it >>>>>> sometimes cannot perform a full erase on some of my CD-RW discs.
    My God, someone actually still uses those? ([:>}
    Duh. What do *you* use?

    I use USB thumb drives. My favorite are the ones that hold SD cards.
    I usually keep one in my pocket that has a 32G card slid into it. I
    found the CD-RW disks would slit my pants in a few weeks or so.

    Oh. So your DVD player takes thumb drives? :) And then of course I misread

    your post. I thought you were questioning Nero and Pinnacle, while in fact it

    was the CD-RW disks. With *that* sentiment I can agree.

    --
    I would have thought by now all DVDs would have been rendered
    completely obsolete. Movies can be downloaded for rental or purchase. Swapping videos can be done better using memory cards that are more
    reliable, quicker and cheaper if you consider they are reusable and
    the time it takes for a burn. My Netbook only has a slot for SD card.
    I have never missed not having a CD/DVD drive. Most of my video
    content is uploaded to YouTube in high def. I watch Blu-Ray on my
    desktop player with 3-D coming next. Now if we can convince the
    viewers of the wedding events and such to go memory card the world
    will be a much better place to view.

    OTOH, you'd have to also convince a certain 95-yr old friend of mine as
    well.

    She still has and uses a VCR...But she has a BD player too (a gift from
    her daughter).

    --
    Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)
    --- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v3.1
    * Origin: Prison Board BBS Mesquite Tx //telnet.RDFIG.NET www. (1:124/5013)
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    Newsgroups: rec.video.desktop,microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support,microsoft.public. windowsxp.general
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    On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 07:48:01 -0500, Voltaire wrote:

    On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 12:47:17 -0500, Patok <crazy.div.patok@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    Voltaire wrote:
    On Thu, 10 Feb 2011 15:03:01 +0000, gargoyle60 <gargoyle60@example.invalid> >>> wrote:

    On Thu, 10 Feb 2011 10:44:08 +0000, choro <choro@tvco.net> wrote:

    And what do you mean, Pinnacle is "only slightly less fragile than Nero". >>>>>
    ...in the sense that with the Imation DVD-RWs Nero also used to fail to >>>> write, even though the discs passed all the analysis tests according to >>>> some of the Nero tools/utilities.

    Apart from those failures, rarely has Nero let me down, although it
    sometimes cannot perform a full erase on some of my CD-RW discs.

    My God, someone actually still uses those? ([:>}

    Duh. What do *you* use?

    I use USB thumb drives. My favorite are the ones that hold SD cards.
    I usually keep one in my pocket that has a 32G card slid into it. I
    found the CD-RW disks would slit my pants in a few weeks or so.

    ([:>}

    LOL

    But I bet the real reason was all the people that kept asking "Do you
    like me, or is that a CD-RW in your pocket?"...

    --
    Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)
    --- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v3.1
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    On Mon, 14 Feb 2011 12:16:50 -0800, "Gene E. Bloch"
    <not-me@other.invalid> wrote:

    On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 15:52:09 -0500, Voltaire wrote:

    On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 14:48:21 -0500, Patok <crazy.div.patok@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    Voltaire wrote:
    Patok <crazy.div.patok@gmail.com> wrote:
    Voltaire wrote:
    gargoyle60 <gargoyle60@example.invalid> wrote:
    On Thu, 10 Feb 2011 10:44:08 +0000, choro <choro@tvco.net> wrote: >>>>>>>
    And what do you mean, Pinnacle is "only slightly less fragile than Nero".

    ...in the sense that with the Imation DVD-RWs Nero also used to fail to >>>>>>> write, even though the discs passed all the analysis tests according to >>>>>>> some of the Nero tools/utilities.

    Apart from those failures, rarely has Nero let me down, although it >>>>>>> sometimes cannot perform a full erase on some of my CD-RW discs.
    My God, someone actually still uses those? ([:>}
    Duh. What do *you* use?

    I use USB thumb drives. My favorite are the ones that hold SD cards.
    I usually keep one in my pocket that has a 32G card slid into it. I
    found the CD-RW disks would slit my pants in a few weeks or so.

    Oh. So your DVD player takes thumb drives? :) And then of course I misread
    your post. I thought you were questioning Nero and Pinnacle, while in fact it
    was the CD-RW disks. With *that* sentiment I can agree.

    --
    I would have thought by now all DVDs would have been rendered
    completely obsolete. Movies can be downloaded for rental or purchase.
    Swapping videos can be done better using memory cards that are more
    reliable, quicker and cheaper if you consider they are reusable and
    the time it takes for a burn. My Netbook only has a slot for SD card.
    I have never missed not having a CD/DVD drive. Most of my video
    content is uploaded to YouTube in high def. I watch Blu-Ray on my
    desktop player with 3-D coming next. Now if we can convince the
    viewers of the wedding events and such to go memory card the world
    will be a much better place to view.

    OTOH, you'd have to also convince a certain 95-yr old friend of mine as
    well.

    She still has and uses a VCR...But she has a BD player too (a gift from
    her daughter).

    I still have an 8-track player and some tapes in my basement. I want
    to put it in my 57 Chevy this summer. That car had an optional 45 RPM
    record player that fit on the console.
    --- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v3.1
    * Origin: Prison Board BBS Mesquite Tx //telnet.RDFIG.NET www. (1:124/5013)
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    From: Voltaire <Voltaire@Spamex.com>
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    On Mon, 14 Feb 2011 12:18:40 -0800, "Gene E. Bloch"
    <not-me@other.invalid> wrote:

    On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 07:48:01 -0500, Voltaire wrote:

    On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 12:47:17 -0500, Patok <crazy.div.patok@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    Voltaire wrote:
    On Thu, 10 Feb 2011 15:03:01 +0000, gargoyle60 <gargoyle60@example.invalid>
    wrote:

    On Thu, 10 Feb 2011 10:44:08 +0000, choro <choro@tvco.net> wrote:

    And what do you mean, Pinnacle is "only slightly less fragile than Nero".

    ...in the sense that with the Imation DVD-RWs Nero also used to fail to >>>>> write, even though the discs passed all the analysis tests according to >>>>> some of the Nero tools/utilities.

    Apart from those failures, rarely has Nero let me down, although it
    sometimes cannot perform a full erase on some of my CD-RW discs.

    My God, someone actually still uses those? ([:>}

    Duh. What do *you* use?

    I use USB thumb drives. My favorite are the ones that hold SD cards.
    I usually keep one in my pocket that has a 32G card slid into it. I
    found the CD-RW disks would slit my pants in a few weeks or so.

    ([:>}

    LOL

    But I bet the real reason was all the people that kept asking "Do you
    like me, or is that a CD-RW in your pocket?"...


    Roflmfao.
    --- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v3.1
    * Origin: Prison Board BBS Mesquite Tx //telnet.RDFIG.NET www. (1:124/5013)
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    "Gene E. Bloch" <not-me@other.invalid> wrote in message news:16l7vwlpyel8u.mva52owyh2e3.dlg@40tude.net...
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 15:52:09 -0500, Voltaire wrote:

    On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 14:48:21 -0500, Patok <crazy.div.patok@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    Voltaire wrote:
    Patok <crazy.div.patok@gmail.com> wrote:
    Voltaire wrote:
    gargoyle60 <gargoyle60@example.invalid> wrote:
    On Thu, 10 Feb 2011 10:44:08 +0000, choro <choro@tvco.net> wrote: >>>>>>>
    And what do you mean, Pinnacle is "only slightly less fragile than >>>>>>>> Nero".

    ...in the sense that with the Imation DVD-RWs Nero also used to fail >>>>>>> to
    write, even though the discs passed all the analysis tests according >>>>>>> to
    some of the Nero tools/utilities.

    Apart from those failures, rarely has Nero let me down, although it >>>>>>> sometimes cannot perform a full erase on some of my CD-RW discs.
    My God, someone actually still uses those? ([:>}
    Duh. What do *you* use?

    I use USB thumb drives. My favorite are the ones that hold SD cards.
    I usually keep one in my pocket that has a 32G card slid into it. I
    found the CD-RW disks would slit my pants in a few weeks or so.

    Oh. So your DVD player takes thumb drives? :) And then of course I
    misread
    your post. I thought you were questioning Nero and Pinnacle, while in >>>fact it
    was the CD-RW disks. With *that* sentiment I can agree.

    --
    I would have thought by now all DVDs would have been rendered
    completely obsolete. Movies can be downloaded for rental or purchase.
    Swapping videos can be done better using memory cards that are more
    reliable, quicker and cheaper if you consider they are reusable and
    the time it takes for a burn. My Netbook only has a slot for SD card.
    I have never missed not having a CD/DVD drive. Most of my video
    content is uploaded to YouTube in high def. I watch Blu-Ray on my
    desktop player with 3-D coming next. Now if we can convince the
    viewers of the wedding events and such to go memory card the world
    will be a much better place to view.

    OTOH, you'd have to also convince a certain 95-yr old friend of mine as
    well.

    She still has and uses a VCR...But she has a BD player too (a gift from
    her daughter).

    --
    Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

    Still have and play thru quality all separate components stereo, cassettes, reel-to-reel, vinyl, cd, dvd and pc which gives access to thumbdrives etc.
    All interconnected with tv and a vcr-dvd combo, dvd recorder, 2 game console units and another pc also tied in.

    --- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v3.1
    * Origin: Prison Board BBS Mesquite Tx //telnet.RDFIG.NET www. (1:124/5013)
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    From: Brian <bclark@es.co.nz>
    Newsgroups: rec.video.desktop,microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support,microsoft.public. windowsxp.general
    Subject: Re: Pinnacle Studio and WinDV freeze up after long idle period, can't even end with Task Manager
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    Voltaire <Voltaire@Spamex.com> wrote:

    On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 14:48:21 -0500, Patok <crazy.div.patok@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    Voltaire wrote:
    Patok <crazy.div.patok@gmail.com> wrote:
    Voltaire wrote:
    gargoyle60 <gargoyle60@example.invalid> wrote:
    On Thu, 10 Feb 2011 10:44:08 +0000, choro <choro@tvco.net> wrote:

    And what do you mean, Pinnacle is "only slightly less fragile than Nero".

    ...in the sense that with the Imation DVD-RWs Nero also used to fail to >>>>>> write, even though the discs passed all the analysis tests according to >>>>>> some of the Nero tools/utilities.

    Apart from those failures, rarely has Nero let me down, although it >>>>>> sometimes cannot perform a full erase on some of my CD-RW discs.
    My God, someone actually still uses those? ([:>}
    Duh. What do *you* use?

    I use USB thumb drives. My favorite are the ones that hold SD cards.
    I usually keep one in my pocket that has a 32G card slid into it. I
    found the CD-RW disks would slit my pants in a few weeks or so.

    Oh. So your DVD player takes thumb drives? :) And then of course I misread

    your post. I thought you were questioning Nero and Pinnacle, while in fact it

    was the CD-RW disks. With *that* sentiment I can agree.

    --
    I would have thought by now all DVDs would have been rendered
    completely obsolete. Movies can be downloaded for rental or purchase.


    It will be a whole before DVD's become obsolete as video hire places
    have invested a lot of money in buying DVD's for rent. Unless you can
    get good traffic flow on the internet then renting a video by
    downloaded it takes time and you might have a limit on how much data
    you can download. Rented downloads are not likely to be in Blu-Ray
    quality and some may be in lower quality than DVD to have a smaller
    file to download. Also 5.1 sound, subtitles and special features could
    be missing.

    Maybe oneday your take your media into a movie hire place and they
    will dump some movies of your choice onto your media for a hire cost.
    There will be a time limit put on the media so that it expires on a
    certain date.

    Regards Brian
    --- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v3.1
    * Origin: Prison Board BBS Mesquite Tx //telnet.RDFIG.NET www. (1:124/5013)
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    From: Brian <bclark@es.co.nz>
    Newsgroups: rec.video.desktop,microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support,microsoft.public. windowsxp.general
    Subject: Re: Pinnacle Studio and WinDV freeze up after long idle period, can't even end with Task Manager
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    "Gene E. Bloch" <not-me@other.invalid> wrote:

    On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 15:52:09 -0500, Voltaire wrote:

    On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 14:48:21 -0500, Patok <crazy.div.patok@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    Voltaire wrote:
    Patok <crazy.div.patok@gmail.com> wrote:
    Voltaire wrote:
    gargoyle60 <gargoyle60@example.invalid> wrote:
    On Thu, 10 Feb 2011 10:44:08 +0000, choro <choro@tvco.net> wrote: >>>>>>>
    And what do you mean, Pinnacle is "only slightly less fragile than Nero".

    ...in the sense that with the Imation DVD-RWs Nero also used to fail to >>>>>>> write, even though the discs passed all the analysis tests according to >>>>>>> some of the Nero tools/utilities.

    Apart from those failures, rarely has Nero let me down, although it >>>>>>> sometimes cannot perform a full erase on some of my CD-RW discs.
    My God, someone actually still uses those? ([:>}
    Duh. What do *you* use?

    I use USB thumb drives. My favorite are the ones that hold SD cards.
    I usually keep one in my pocket that has a 32G card slid into it. I
    found the CD-RW disks would slit my pants in a few weeks or so.

    Oh. So your DVD player takes thumb drives? :) And then of course I misread
    your post. I thought you were questioning Nero and Pinnacle, while in fact it
    was the CD-RW disks. With *that* sentiment I can agree.

    --
    I would have thought by now all DVDs would have been rendered
    completely obsolete. Movies can be downloaded for rental or purchase.
    Swapping videos can be done better using memory cards that are more
    reliable, quicker and cheaper if you consider they are reusable and
    the time it takes for a burn. My Netbook only has a slot for SD card.
    I have never missed not having a CD/DVD drive. Most of my video
    content is uploaded to YouTube in high def. I watch Blu-Ray on my
    desktop player with 3-D coming next. Now if we can convince the
    viewers of the wedding events and such to go memory card the world
    will be a much better place to view.

    OTOH, you'd have to also convince a certain 95-yr old friend of mine as
    well.

    She still has and uses a VCR...But she has a BD player too (a gift from
    her daughter).

    She;s doing well as some people that age have difficuly in
    understanding electronic devices. I had trouble teaching my 79 year
    old mother how to operate a VCR and DVD recorder. She have a lot of
    trouble in learning how you moved the cursor to select video from the
    menu. She could operate a TV with a remote control.

    Regards Brian
    --- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v3.1
    * Origin: Prison Board BBS Mesquite Tx //telnet.RDFIG.NET www. (1:124/5013)
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    From: Voltaire <Voltaire@Spamex.com>
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    On Tue, 15 Feb 2011 17:55:12 +1300, Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> wrote:

    Voltaire <Voltaire@Spamex.com> wrote:

    On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 14:48:21 -0500, Patok <crazy.div.patok@gmail.com> >>wrote:

    Voltaire wrote:
    Patok <crazy.div.patok@gmail.com> wrote:
    Voltaire wrote:
    gargoyle60 <gargoyle60@example.invalid> wrote:
    On Thu, 10 Feb 2011 10:44:08 +0000, choro <choro@tvco.net> wrote: >>>>>>>
    And what do you mean, Pinnacle is "only slightly less fragile than Nero".

    ...in the sense that with the Imation DVD-RWs Nero also used to fail to >>>>>>> write, even though the discs passed all the analysis tests according to >>>>>>> some of the Nero tools/utilities.

    Apart from those failures, rarely has Nero let me down, although it >>>>>>> sometimes cannot perform a full erase on some of my CD-RW discs.
    My God, someone actually still uses those? ([:>}
    Duh. What do *you* use?

    I use USB thumb drives. My favorite are the ones that hold SD cards.
    I usually keep one in my pocket that has a 32G card slid into it. I
    found the CD-RW disks would slit my pants in a few weeks or so.

    Oh. So your DVD player takes thumb drives? :) And then of course I misread
    your post. I thought you were questioning Nero and Pinnacle, while in fact it
    was the CD-RW disks. With *that* sentiment I can agree.

    --
    I would have thought by now all DVDs would have been rendered
    completely obsolete. Movies can be downloaded for rental or purchase.


    It will be a whole before DVD's become obsolete as video hire places
    have invested a lot of money in buying DVD's for rent. Unless you can
    get good traffic flow on the internet then renting a video by
    downloaded it takes time and you might have a limit on how much data
    you can download. Rented downloads are not likely to be in Blu-Ray
    quality and some may be in lower quality than DVD to have a smaller
    file to download. Also 5.1 sound, subtitles and special features could
    be missing.

    Maybe oneday your take your media into a movie hire place and they
    will dump some movies of your choice onto your media for a hire cost.
    There will be a time limit put on the media so that it expires on a
    certain date.

    Regards Brian

    Downloaded movies can be watched as soon as they are purchased with no
    waiting as the download continues as they are being viewed. HD 5.1 is
    not a problem for this reason as file size is of no concern. There is
    actually little Blu-Ray content worth watching once you have seen the
    quality of Discover Channel and National Geographic videos as far as
    I'm concerned. Many are simple re masters.

    Rental stores will hang on as long as possible but they used to be
    for those that chose not to purchase cable. Now cable is far more
    popular so there has to be a steady decline in stores like
    Blockbusters. I drive by a store that advertises XXX material. I bet
    those will be the last to go. ;)

    I don't know about the upload to your media idea unless the gas pump
    has USB connection. The idea is to not have to leave your house and
    buy on impulse as soon as you see the trailer.

    Then there is the Xfinity factor with On Demand that HAS to cut into
    rental but this whole discussion is about the demise of the oversized
    DVD.

    What will 3-D bring to the (coffee) table I wonder.
    --- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v3.1
    * Origin: Prison Board BBS Mesquite Tx //telnet.RDFIG.NET www. (1:124/5013)
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    From: Brian <bclark@es.co.nz>
    Newsgroups: rec.video.desktop,microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support,microsoft.public. windowsxp.general
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    Voltaire <Voltaire@Spamex.com> wrote:

    On Tue, 15 Feb 2011 17:55:12 +1300, Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> wrote:

    Voltaire <Voltaire@Spamex.com> wrote:

    On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 14:48:21 -0500, Patok <crazy.div.patok@gmail.com> >>>wrote:

    Voltaire wrote:
    Patok <crazy.div.patok@gmail.com> wrote:
    Voltaire wrote:
    gargoyle60 <gargoyle60@example.invalid> wrote:
    On Thu, 10 Feb 2011 10:44:08 +0000, choro <choro@tvco.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>
    And what do you mean, Pinnacle is "only slightly less fragile than Nero".

    ...in the sense that with the Imation DVD-RWs Nero also used to fail to
    write, even though the discs passed all the analysis tests according to
    some of the Nero tools/utilities.

    Apart from those failures, rarely has Nero let me down, although it >>>>>>>> sometimes cannot perform a full erase on some of my CD-RW discs. >>>>>>> My God, someone actually still uses those? ([:>}
    Duh. What do *you* use?

    I use USB thumb drives. My favorite are the ones that hold SD cards. >>>>> I usually keep one in my pocket that has a 32G card slid into it. I
    found the CD-RW disks would slit my pants in a few weeks or so.

    Oh. So your DVD player takes thumb drives? :) And then of course I misread
    your post. I thought you were questioning Nero and Pinnacle, while in fact it
    was the CD-RW disks. With *that* sentiment I can agree.

    --
    I would have thought by now all DVDs would have been rendered
    completely obsolete. Movies can be downloaded for rental or purchase.


    It will be a whole before DVD's become obsolete as video hire places
    have invested a lot of money in buying DVD's for rent. Unless you can
    get good traffic flow on the internet then renting a video by
    downloaded it takes time and you might have a limit on how much data
    you can download. Rented downloads are not likely to be in Blu-Ray
    quality and some may be in lower quality than DVD to have a smaller
    file to download. Also 5.1 sound, subtitles and special features could
    be missing.

    Maybe oneday your take your media into a movie hire place and they
    will dump some movies of your choice onto your media for a hire cost.
    There will be a time limit put on the media so that it expires on a
    certain date.

    Regards Brian

    Downloaded movies can be watched as soon as they are purchased with no >waiting as the download continues as they are being viewed. HD 5.1 is
    not a problem for this reason as file size is of no concern. There is >actually little Blu-Ray content worth watching once you have seen the
    quality of Discover Channel and National Geographic videos as far as
    I'm concerned. Many are simple re masters.

    Rental stores will hang on as long as possible but they used to be
    for those that chose not to purchase cable. Now cable is far more
    popular so there has to be a steady decline in stores like
    Blockbusters. I drive by a store that advertises XXX material. I bet
    those will be the last to go. ;)

    I don't know about the upload to your media idea unless the gas pump
    has USB connection. The idea is to not have to leave your house and
    buy on impulse as soon as you see the trailer.

    Then there is the Xfinity factor with On Demand that HAS to cut into
    rental but this whole discussion is about the demise of the oversized
    DVD.

    What will 3-D bring to the (coffee) table I wonder.

    Censorship changes from country to country so what you are allowed to
    watch depends on what country you live in. So the law would only allow
    me to download from a rental place in my country and there are no
    internet rental places at the moment.
    I could watch a paid-for movie on Sky TV as some popular ones are
    downloaded on the sky decoder waiting to be unlocked for $6.99 so it's
    cheaper to hire a movie for $2.00 which includes blockbuster movies
    and is a short distance to get the movie. Those living in remote areas
    would gain more from downloading rented movies or getting them from
    Sky TV.

    I think it would useful if there was a place on the internet that had
    the old 1960's TV serials. There are some "The Avengers" serials that
    I'd love to download and watch that are not available on DVD (or are
    difficult to find on DVD).

    Regards Brian

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    Brian,
    Try these :

    The Avengers
    The Town of No Return
    1965
    Series 4 Episode 1

    The Avengers 4x01 The Town of No Return 1/5 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=677YmSL0oU0

    The Avengers 4x01 The Town of No Return 2/5 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlCfVEkH-48

    The Avengers 4x01 The Town of No Return 3/5 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzywiFpBICA

    The Avengers 4x01 The Town of No Return 4/5 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMUxIAeaqM4

    The Avengers 4x01 The Town of No Return 5/5 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecs8WnvOYjA

    You might also try http://www.keepvid.com/ if you run into any difficulties....

    ==

    Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-)




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    ...There are some "The Avengers" serials that
    I'd love to download and watch that are not available on DVD (or are difficult to find on DVD).

    Regards Brian

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    "Tim Meddick" <timmeddick@o2.co.uk> wrote:

    Brian,
    Try these :

    The Avengers
    The Town of No Return
    1965
    Series 4 Episode 1

    The Avengers 4x01 The Town of No Return 1/5 >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=677YmSL0oU0

    The Avengers 4x01 The Town of No Return 2/5 >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlCfVEkH-48

    The Avengers 4x01 The Town of No Return 3/5 >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzywiFpBICA

    The Avengers 4x01 The Town of No Return 4/5 >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMUxIAeaqM4

    The Avengers 4x01 The Town of No Return 5/5 >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecs8WnvOYjA

    You might also try http://www.keepvid.com/ if you run into any >difficulties....

    ==

    Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-)




    "Brian" <bclark@es.co.nz> wrote in message >news:251ml6p7l0en04ps7trfib23i2nr9gdbdl@4ax.com...

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    ...There are some "The Avengers" serials that
    I'd love to download and watch that are not available on DVD (or are
    difficult to find on DVD).

    Regards Brian


    Thanks Tim.
    It was a good idea to split up the video rather than reduce it's
    quality.
    I wonder if Mission Impossible seasons 6 and 7 can also be found.

    Regards Brian
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    Brian, I hope I did not give you the impression that it was my own work posting the Avenger's videos?

    All I did was to bring the links to your attention (along with [http://www.keepvid.com] website...very useful )...

    As far as Mission Impossible Season 6, 7 goes, well the Avenger's video I
    gave you the links for, is actually only one video - split into parts (I
    think YouTube may have some sort of limit on the size of clip that's
    posted).

    So I seriously doubt you'd get an entire season of anything posted there.

    I conducted the search for you, and posted the links I sent, mainly to show you how you could get to see (& keep) such oddities from off YouTube.

    I recently, got a video of one of the films they used to show as "Test Transmissions" over on our T.V. network way back when I was very little (3
    or 4) in the late 60s.

    ....and yes, I too remember watching with awe, the original first few series of the Avengers (with Mrs Peel), but again, I was very very young....

    ==

    Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-)




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    Thanks Tim.
    It was a good idea to split up the video rather than reduce it's
    quality.
    I wonder if Mission Impossible seasons 6 and 7 can also be found.

    Regards Brian

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