What was your favourite distro in 2017 ?
will you miss unity ?
What was your favourite distro in 2017 ?
Ubuntu, mint, elementary, kali, etc ?
will you miss unity ?
What was your favourite distro in 2017 ?
Ubuntu, mint, elementary, kali, etc ?
will you miss unity ?
will you miss unity ?
Miss? Is Unity going away? I'd hope so.. I never really liked Unity.
Re: distro
By: Ennev to All on Tue Dec 19 2017 10:47:11
What was your favourite distro in 2017 ?
Antergos would make that list for me this year. Based off of Arch Linux, but installers is scripted and saves me from making a lot of configuration mistakes.
will you miss unity ?
No, I will not miss Unity. I hadn't used Unity since I changed over Arch Linux and Antergos years ago. XFCE for me...
Miss? Is Unity going away? I'd hope so.. I
never really liked Unity.
Oh yeah. Cananocial (sp) is trashing unity.. its all a money thing too.. Oh yeah. Cananocial (sp) and M$
has something to do with it.. this is not some tinfoil hat theory either.. came straight from a board meeting press release..
What was your favourite distro in 2017 ?
Ubuntu, mint, elementary, kali, etc ?
will you miss unity ?
has something to do with it.. this is not some tinfoil hat theory either.. came straight from a board meeting press release..
Oh yeah. Cananocial (sp) is trashing unity.. its all a money thing
too.. Oh yeah. Cananocial (sp) and M$
has something to do with it.. this is not some tinfoil hat theory
either.. came straight from a board meeting press release..
I thought Unity was probably an open-source thing. I didn't think it would be there to make money.
And I know Microsoft has been supporting Linux more these days, but I didn't think they were involved in any Linux distros or UI environments for Linux.
And I know Microsoft has been supporting Linux more these days, but I didn't think they were involved in any Linux distros or UI environments for Linux.
I was never a fan. Although I like the idea of a window environment which uses the sides for status bars (since widescreen monitors have more space available)
I still use Lubuntu - started with single-core Thinkpad laptops that needed a lightweight WM, but still use it on dual core systems with 8 GB of RAM. [0m
And I know Microsoft has been supporting Linux more these days, but
I didn't think they were involved in any Linux distros or UI
environments for Linux.
and truly I think its more about MS wanting to nudge them into having GNOME only instead of giving choices of WM so when the cloud is implemented MS will not have to support so many envirnonments.
I like Lubuntu, and I'm dual booting XP and PUPPY on one of my older machines.. well theyre all old by todays standards, but this tower has a sticker on it that says "optimized for AOL" i've put 2 more hdd in it and
I did wonder about Microsoft's intentions when they started supporting Linux more (I've heard of them releasing some version of Visual Studio and possibly some other of their tools for Linux).
machines.. well theyre all old by todays standards, but this tower
has a sticker on it that says "optimized for AOL" i've put 2 more
hdd in it and
I remember when PC cases had a square indentation on them where you (or a PC builder) could put a case sticker. Not sure if the "optimized for AOL" is one of those square ones though? I somewhat miss those case stickers.. It was a way to sort of "brand" your PC or show your use of Intel/AMD CPU or Nvidia/ATI grpahics card, etc.. One time, I saw a seller on eBay selling some custom PC case stickers with the Intel or AMD logo (available with both) with "Fast As F*ck" written below the logo.
I did wonder about Microsoft's intentions when they started supporting Linux more (I've heard of them releasing some version of Visual Studio possibly some other of their tools for Linux).
I'm speculating but, I wonder if tyhey don't try to buy out what they can of canonical. I know only so much can be done, because in this case hopefully t GNU/GPL license will protect us. but as you said, what are their intententio I know it's not to make linux and windows more "interoperable" bcause still, being the business man he is would much rather see any open source shut down tightly, so I would have to believe it's something more sinister in the long run. and Shuttleworth is really just seeing $$$ in is eyes, but us not looki to far in the future.
I did wonder about Microsoft's intentions when they started supporting Linux more (I've heard of them releasing some version of Visual Studio possibly some other of their tools for Linux).
I'm speculating but, I wonder if tyhey don't try to buy out what they can of canonical. I know only so much can be done, because in this case hopefully t GNU/GPL license will protect us. but as you said, what are their intententio I know it's not to make linux and windows more "interoperable" bcause still, being the business man he is would much rather see any open source shut down tightly, so I would have to believe it's something more sinister in the long run. and Shuttleworth is really just seeing $$$ in is eyes, but us not looki to far in the future.
There is a partnership between Microsoft and Canonical, Ltd. I do see Microsoft muddeling platforms with .NET Core, PowerShell Core, SQL Server 2017, and WSL (the ability to run ELF binaries on Windows). I'm not sure of their intentions, but if it is to shut down Linux or open source, it'll be a daring and stupid move. Especially when .NET Core, PowerShell Core, ASP.NET Core, EntityFramework, MSBuild, Roslyn, and et al, are open source as well.
Seriously, Microsoft has a lot repositories on GitHub, and non-Microsoft employees are contributing to these repositories.
Thinking about this further, and I wonder if it is really this case (from an article that had heard rumors of making Windows open source) is really true: Microsoft makes more money from Azure (their cloud offering) than Windows. If that is the case, it could make sense why they muddeling the platforms all together.
and truthfully, I can not EVER recall a time i've paid for windows, unless I have purchases a BRAND NEW computer and was forced to pay for it. every other distro I have downloaded from the MS site and had a VALID MS OEM code for it.
and truthfully, I can not EVER recall a time i've paid for windows, unless I have purchases a BRAND NEW computer and was forced to pay for it. every other distro I have downloaded from the MS site and had a VALID MS OEM code for it.
and thruthfuly.. the OS *should* be free.. the OS is the core of the machine.. it's what make it work...
I remember when PC cases had a square indentation on them where you (or a PC builder) could put a case sticker. Not sure if the "optimized for AOL" is one of those square ones though?
Are you saying Microsoft has had Windows available to download from their site with free valid license keys?
I did wonder about Microsoft's intentions when they started
supporting Linux more (I've heard of them releasing some version of
Visual Studio and possibly some other of their tools for Linux).
MS contributed $500,000 to Linux last I heard, MS is interested in Linux Cloud and Server, I doubt they will ever want anything to do with Linux as a desktop.
and truthfully, I can not EVER recall a time i've paid for windows, unl I have purchases a BRAND NEW computer and was forced to pay for it. eve other distro I have downloaded from the MS site and had a VALID MS OEM code for it.
Are you saying Microsoft has had Windows available to download from their si with free valid license keys?
and thruthfuly.. the OS *should* be free.. the OS is the core of the machine.. it's what make it work...
I'm not sure the OS should always be free.. An OS is a piece of software, a product that someone (or a team of people) has put time and effort into developing, like any other product. Microsoft historically has been a softw company, and if they choose to sell their software for a profit (including their OS), I don't see a problem with that. You don't have to pay an outrageous price for Windows either - You can find OEM copies to buy online around $70 to $120 or so. Only in the past few years has Microsoft started make their own computers.
I thought Unity was probably an open-source thing. I didn't think it would be there to make money.
I could understand that though.. I suppose I'd have to read up on this more, because I'm surprised to hear about Microsoft's interest in Ubuntu, and I'm wondering why that distribution specifically (maybe because it's
one of the most popular, or the most popular)?
I did wonder about Microsoft's intentions when they started supporting
Linux more (I've heard of them releasing some version of Visual Studio and possibly some other of their tools for Linux).
Apple no longer charges for OS X, but Apple's main source of revenue is their hardware (computers, iPhone, and iPod). I remember even reading a quote where someone at Apple said they want to be mainly a hardware
company. They restrict OS X to install on Macs, so they sell their Macs
and include the OS for free. I remember when they used to sell their OS though.. Back in the day, a new major version of OS X would cost around $150 (I think), which was about on par with an OEM copy of Windows.
However, if the developer spends their spare time writing up free or open source software, more power to them. Linux is just a kernel that help run the GNU software, done by one person, who now runs a corporation dedicated to improvimg the kernel. Same thing with FreeDOS and ReactOS. I love FreeDOS, and I hope ReactOS can continue to improve and get to the point of being stable and really take off.
and if they end up dropping the flavors like lubuntu, mate, kubuntu, etc.. so they will only have the origina ubuntu to keep up with azure, you'll never see me go back to ubuntuland. right now I'm happy as hell with the Debian version of Mint.
Last year we also saw the introduction of Bash for windows. Which is not an emulation but it supported natively. Makes you wonder about the future of PowerShell.
Re: distro
By: Nightfox to KK4QBN on Wed Dec 20 2017 15:07:45
and truthfully, I can not EVER recall a time i've paid for windows, unl I have purchases a BRAND NEW computer and was forced to pay for it. eve other distro I have downloaded from the MS site and had a VALID MS OEM code for it.
Are you saying Microsoft has had Windows available to download from their si with free valid license keys?
Remember that period of time where Microsoft made a big push for every one to upgrade to Windows 10 by requiring it and making it free?
Remember that period of time where Microsoft made a big push for every on to upgrade to Windows 10 by requiring it and making it free?
i dont remember 'requiring' it. but i remember there were free upgrades for period. i tried the free upgrade and it failed with some obscure error code, that computer didnt get it.
Last year we also saw the introduction of Bash for windows. Which is not an emulation but it supported natively. Makes you wonder about the future of PowerShell.
Are you saying Microsoft has had Windows available to download from
their si with free valid license keys?
Remember that period of time where Microsoft made a big push for every one to upgrade to Windows 10 by requiring it and making it free?
I agree with Nightfox on this point: OSes shouldn't always be free. If there are developers who are good at what they do, they should be paid for it. Closed or open source alike.
However, if the developer spends their spare time writing up free or open source software, more power to them. Linux is just a kernel that help run the GNU software, done by one person, who now runs a corporation dedicated to improvimg the kernel. Same thing with FreeDOS and ReactOS. I love FreeDOS, and I hope ReactOS can continue to improve and get to the point of being stable and really take off.
I thought Unity was probably an open-source thing. I didn't think it
would be there to make money.
Unity was also to be that thing that would work on phone, tablet etc. Never happened.
Myself I was fine with Unity it worked. Wasn't dramatically different to wow me, gnome feel like a step back.
Let's bring LCARS
One thing is sure, is that Microsoft is a contributor to the Linux kernel. It's been happening for quite a while now.
I think they also limits MacOS (new name :-D ) to theirs hardware because it prevent them to have to support an indefinite amount of GPUs and others hardware variation.
Modern macs rely intensively on the graphic card.
Marketing wise like you said, they are an hardware makers, so if they find an incentive for you to buy theirs hardware they wont give that advantage to others.
A lot of people would jump ship if the OS was available to others platform.
You know what's funny about that Ubuntu/bash for Windows 10? It includes gcc. So the only C compiler that comes *with* Windows cannot compile
Windows programs. The irony.
I'm curious what you liked about Unity that seemed like a step forward from Gnome?
I'm very suspicious of that. It makes me wonder what Microsoft is trying
to do by contributing to Linux that way. Perhaps time will tell if they want to turn Linux to their advantage or if they really just want to contribute to Linux as an open-source OS.
There is the "hackintosh" community who have been hacking OS X/MacOS to install on non-Mac PCs. It works if you follow their guides and buy compatible hardware to build a PC. I can understand Apple's strategy of
not wanting to support tons of hardware, but I also wouldn't mind seeing more of an alternative in the PC OS market. There used to be more OS alternatives back in the day, when OS/2 was around and there were others coming up such as BeOS. If Apple allowed MacOS to be installed on other
PCs, I wonder how much revenue they'd lose from hardware sales and how much revenue they could get from selling MacOS by itself.
What would be a better choice of word to where Microsoft attempted to block all efforts from users getting rid of the "Upgrade to Windows 10" pop-up ads?
Forcing, strong-arming, pushing, craming it down our throughts?
And I've been checking into ReactOS for the past 10 years or so, and in all that time, it's still in an 'alpha' state. I hope it will eventually reach a state where it's feature-complete and mature enough to run as an everyday OS. I'm a bit skeptical though, because they're basically reverse-engineering Windows, and some Windows programming APIs are undocumented. Microsoft (of course) knows how to use those APIs, but it might be difficult for the ReactOS developers to ensure it's 100% compatible with Windows.
I'm very suspicious of that. It makes me wonder what Microsoft is trying to do by contributing to Linux that way. Perhaps time will tell if they want to turn Linux to their advantage or if they really just want to contribute to Linux as an open-source OS.
would be hard to sneak something in I guess, being "open-source" and on git, everybody can inspect the source code, usually tricks don't go unnoticed for too long.
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What was your favourite distro in 2017 ?
Ubuntu, mint, elementary, kali, etc ?
will you miss unity ?
Maybe sooner than later they'll ditch macOS all together and then open
source it to the community like its kernel Darwin already is, they already gave it to the community a few years ago. yet if you check an iphone kernel or mac you'll read something like : Darwin 17.3.0
Might be soon, microsoft is making an serious ARM version of windows.
In
the past mac where based on 68K, PowerPC then intel. I'm just not sure they'll port macos, they'll probably just leave it behind and adapting iOS even more to act like a mac.
I'm very suspicious of that. It makes me wonder what Microsoft is
trying to do by contributing to Linux that way. Perhaps time will
tell if they want to turn Linux to their advantage or if they really
just want to contribute to Linux as an open-source OS.
you should be more suspicious of the everyday linux contributers. those are the guys putting backdoors into shit that is putting us all at risk.
You know what's funny about that Ubuntu/bash for Windows 10? It includes gcc. So the only C compiler that comes *with* Windows cannot compile Windows programs. The irony.
would be hard to sneak something in I guess, being "open-source" and
on git, everybody can inspect the source code, usually tricks don't go
unnoticed for too long.
HEARTBLEED
you should be more suspicious of the everyday linux contributers. those are the guys putting backdoors into shit that is putting us all at risk.
Are you wearing a tin foil hat, by chance?
One time I had a job interview and the interviewer asked what I thought about Linux. He told me he had more trust in Windows, because there's a small dedicated team of people who are paid to develop Windows, and he trusted that they'd make a good product. I guess there's some sense to that, but he also said that since Linux is free and open-source, he thought anyone could go and put malware in Linux. I hightly doubt that's the case.. My understanding is that there's a review process, and bad stuff would be caught fairly soon. I think the fact that Linux is open-source is one of its strengths - There are many developers contributing to it, probably far more than the number of people at any one company. Security holes seem to be fixed fairly quickly (I remember the 'Heartbleed' bug that was reported a couple years ago, and it was fixed fairly quick).
Re: Re: distro
By: MRO to Ennev on Thu Dec 21 2017 05:46 pm
would be hard to sneak something in I guess, being "open-source" and
on git, everybody can inspect the source code, usually tricks don't go
unnoticed for too long.
HEARTBLEED
Heartbleed wasn't just in Linux though, it was in the OpenSSL library, which is available for pretty much any OS. And it wasn't something that someone "snuck in" as he was saying, it was a bug that went undiscovered for some time.
open source is NOT a strength. it's a weakness. you are only as strong as your weakest link and open source software can have random unqualified 'contributers', messing with code. that's a fact.
Heartbleed wasn't just in Linux though, it was in the OpenSSL library,
which is available for pretty much any OS. And it wasn't something
that someone "snuck in" as he was saying, it was a bug that went
undiscovered for some time.
we were talking about open sourced software and how gee golly wonderful it is.
how do you know he didnt sneak it in?
you dont know him.
So, heartbleed was fixed fairly quickly, eh? it can only be fixed if someone finds it. this one careless guy created a huge security issue that went on for more than 2 years.
Re: Re: distro
By: MRO to Nightfox on Thu Dec 21 2017 10:24 pm
open source is NOT a strength. it's a weakness. you are only as strong as your weakest link and open source software can have random unqualified 'contributers', messing with code. that's a fact.
As has been stated already, I'm pretty sure Linux has a review process so that any random code doesn't permanently become part of Linux.
how do you know he didnt sneak it in?
you dont know him.
How do you know he did? You don't know him.
Software bugs happen. I think it was more likely that it was a bug.
It was fixed fairly quickly once it was discovered, yes. From what I heard,
Heartbleed had exited for a while but was not discovered in that time. If
nobody had discovered it yet, that meant it had not been exploited yet. And
nobody had discovered it yet, that meant it had not been exploited yet. And I saw there was a fix fairly soon after it was discovered.
Re: Re: distro
By: Digital Man to Ennev on Thu Dec 21 2017 11:53 am
You know what's funny about that Ubuntu/bash for Windows 10? It includes gcc. So the only C compiler that comes *with* Windows cannot compile Windows programs. The irony.
lol.. Although I wonder if it could at least compile a command-line application? Technically, such an application would be a Win32/Win64 application.
I hope that's not the case.. I think OS X is a fairly decent desktop OS, and there's a reason why MacOS and iOS look and behave differently -
They're designed for different types of devices. MacOS does have the "Launchpad" though, which looks sort of like iOS.
Is that the "desktop manager/theme" part of Ubuntu? If so, I've seen it
but wasn't impressed. I use XFCE on Slackware.
Software bugs happen. I think it was more likely that it was a bug.
why would it be more likely a bug and not something he got paid to put in there?
lol.. Although I wonder if it could at least compile a command-line
application? Technically, such an application would be a Win32/Win64
application.
Yes, you can compile a command-line/console application (with the gcc included in the Ubuntu/bash package for Windows 10), but No, it does not generate a Win32/Win64 application.
Here an example 'file' output from a file built with gcc:
a.out: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, interpreter /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2, for GNU/Linux 2.6.32, BuildID[sha1]=cc265875d07ab2d80e5c0a5c7543eca87a215d5d, not stripped
And here's one built on the same system using a Windows tool-chain (targeting Win32/GUI):
a.exe: PE32 executable (console) Intel 80386, for MS Windows
And targeting Win32/console:
a.exe: PE32 executable (GUI) Intel 80386, for MS Windows
So it really is a complete Linux environment inside Windows, not just another command shell.
It's weird that we are talking about that, but yesterday Apple announced that they'll will make possible for develloper to publish version of theirs apps that will run both on macOS and iOS, you'll have to take into account that it will have to be both mouse driven and touch based.
I find it weird because one is intel based and the other arm. Would be stupid if they would do like back in the day with universal apps where you had in the package but intel and powerpc code bundled in the same binary.
open source is NOT a strength. it's a weakness. you are only as strong as your
weakest link and open source software can have random unqualified >'contributers', messing with code. that's a fact.
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Re: Re: distro
By: MRO to Nightfox on Thu Dec 21 2017 10:24 pm
open source is NOT a strength. it's a weakness. you are only as strong your weakest link and open source software can have random unqualified 'contributers', messing with code. that's a fact.
As has been stated already, I'm pretty sure Linux has a review process so th NI>any random code doesn't permanently become part of Linux.
Re: Re: distro
By: MRO to Nightfox on Fri Dec 22 2017 01:40 am
Software bugs happen. I think it was more likely that it was a bug.
why would it be more likely a bug and not something he got paid to put in there?
Now you're adding in the idea that he may have been paid to put it in.. I just don't see why that would be very likely.
open source is NOT a strength. it's a weakness. you are only as strong as your
weakest link and open source software can have random unqualified >'contributers', messing with code. that's a fact.
So can commercial products.
As has been stated already, I'm pretty sure Linux has a review process
so that any random code doesn't permanently become part of Linux.
heartbleed. 2 years.
I find it interesting that they feel the need to do this in the first
place. I suppose it makes sense from a business perspective if a lot of consumers these days are using mobile devices. But when I'm working on a document, piece of code, etc., or even playing a game, I still feel most productive when I'm using a physical keyboard and mouse. I took a touch typing class when I was in 8th grade, and my typing speed just went up
after that. A virtual keyboard on a mobile device just doesn't compare.
So can commercial products.
So can commercial products.there's a higher likelyhood in open source.
You don't know what you're talking about.
1. Heartbleed was a bug in OpenSSL. OpenSSL is not "part of Linux". it is a cryptographic library/toolkit. It is available and used on Solaris, Linux, MacOS, QNX, the various BSD OSes, OpenVMS, Microsoft Windows and even OS/400. think there's an OS/2 port as well, but don't hold me to that.
Yes the virtual keyboard should be a thing for short typing only. When I really need to type on the go I get the iPad out i got a good keyboard for it called TYPO the key are bigger than most laptop, and it come with a case that make it piratically look like a laptop. With apps like Coda with
Now you're adding in the idea that he may have been paid to put it
in.. I just don't see why that would be very likely.
you dont understand how this 'bug' was advantagious?
As has been stated already, I'm pretty sure Linux has a review process so th NI>any random code doesn't permanently become part of Linux.
Absolutely.
Also if a firm go belly up your stuck with no evolution and support when with an open source project someone else is free to pick it up.
So can commercial products.there's a higher likelyhood in open source.
With all of the Windows exploits over the years, I think it is pot-kettle-black.
I suppose Heartbleed could have just gone unreported for that long and the media could have not been alerted about it or paid to keep quiet about it.. I just somehow doubt it. Why then suddenly report it and fix it?
You don't know what you're talking about.
1. Heartbleed was a bug in OpenSSL. OpenSSL is not "part of Linux". it is a cryptographic library/toolkit. It is available and used on Solaris, Linux, MacOS, QNX, the various BSD OSes, OpenVMS, Microsoft Windows and even OS/400. think there's an OS/2 port as well, but don't hold me to that.
So basically it affected Windows and Macs, too? :)
Also if a firm go belly up your stuck with no evolution and support when with >an open source project someone else is free to pick it up.
I know DOS is dead and all, but one product I wish would have been released open source when the owner abandonded it was Desqview... well, that and QEMM. Someone bought Quarterdeck, IIRC, and then let those products die.
As has been stated already, I'm pretty sure Linux has a review process NI>any random code doesn't permanently become part of Linux.
Absolutely.
HAHAHA
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Re: Re: distro
By: Ennev to Dumas Walker on Sat Dec 23 2017 09:49 am
Also if a firm go belly up your stuck with no evolution and support when with an open source project someone else is free to pick it up.
or it can be taken over by losers who bastardize the code until it's a shad MR>of its former self.
As has been stated already, I'm pretty sure Linux has a review process NI>any random code doesn't permanently become part of Linux.
Absolutely.
HAHAHA
Not sure what that is supposed to mean, other than show that you don't understand how open source / Linux software development works.
You should do a little homework so you can understand. Just for
starters, ALL code that becomes a permanent part of Linux is approved by ONLY one or two guys. You can easily find out their names if you want
to. Impress us and come back with what you find out!
or it can be taken over by losers who bastardize the code until it's a shad MR>of its former self.
Once again you show that you don't understand how open source software development works. Bravo!
or it can be taken over by losers who bastardize the code until it's a shadow of its former self.
shad MR>>until it's a of its former self.or it can be taken over by losers who bastardize the code
Once again you show that you don't understand how open source software
development works. Bravo!
first, you are quoting me on things i have not said.
or it can be taken over by losers who bastardize the code until it's
a shadow of its former self.
also i have seen this happen with my own eyes
i'm not comparing windows and linux.
linux has its share of dangerous exploits. i'm just saying that open source is
not safe and people shouldnt blindly consider it as such.
That would have been interesting. I'm not sure what development would have been done on it if it was open-sourced though.. I know there are open-source
or it can be taken over by losers who bastardize the code until it's a shadow of its former self.
also i have seen this happen with my own eyes
first, you are quoting me on things i have not said.
I saw you post what he quoted in an earlier message.
That's the same thing that he quoted above.
or it can be taken over by losers who bastardize the code until it's a shadow of its former self.
also i have seen this happen with my own eyes
Some versions of old door games that were open sources, or hacked, come to mind.
I have also wondered what Desqview (and Desqview/X) might have become if it had been open source and could have been ported to *nix. :)
he was quoting another person and his editor was tacking on mro> in the quoting.
That's the same thing that he quoted above.
you're confused. ennev posted part of those quotes.
i'm not comparing windows and linux.
linux has its share of dangerous exploits. i'm just saying that open source is
not safe and people shouldnt blindly consider it as such.
I would tend to agree with this statement. Open source is no more safe
than anything else. Back when Windows had an overwhelming dominance, most exploits were written for it. Now that linux (and other open source) have been around for awhile, no doubt it is making a better target of itself.
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Re: Re: distro
By: Gamgee to MRO on Sat Dec 23 2017 09:49 pm
As has been stated already, I'm pretty sure Linux has a review process NI>any random code doesn't permanently become part of Linux.
Absolutely.
HAHAHA
Not sure what that is supposed to mean, other than show that you don't understand how open source / Linux software development works.
You should do a little homework so you can understand. Just for starters, ALL code that becomes a permanent part of Linux is approved by ONLY one or two guys. You can easily find out their names if you want to. Impress us and come back with what you find out!
you guys are trying to WIN the argument by CHANGING the argument.
i'm not playing that game.
i'm not going to do homework for you and i'm not here to impress you.
i think this is the first time i've seen you post as well.
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Re: Re: distro
By: Gamgee to MRO on Sat Dec 23 2017 09:50 pm
or it can be taken over by losers who bastardize the code until it's shad MR>of its former self.
Once again you show that you don't understand how open source software development works. Bravo!
first, you are quoting me on things i have not said.
or it can be taken over by losers who bastardize the code until it's a shadow of its former self.
also i have seen this happen with my own eyes
I don't think I'm confused. You included the same quote of yours, one with the mro in front of it and again without.
Huh? Are you claiming you didn't say that "anybody can put any random
code into Linux" (I'm paraphrasing there)? I didn't change the
I already know the names, and was using that as a point to help you understand how Linux development works. I guess you still don't know.
first, you are quoting me on things i have not said.
You're claiming you didn't say the above about losers bastardizing the
code?
I don't think I'm confused. You included the same quote of yours, one
with the mro in front of it and again without.
no it had mro for both
do you want a fucking screenshot or will you stop being autistic
no it had mro for both
do you want a fucking screenshot or will you stop being autistic
I got a screenshot for you: http://www.digitaldistortionbbs.com/screenshots/mro-quotes_2017-12-23.png
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Re: Re: distro
By: Gamgee to MRO on Sun Dec 24 2017 04:15 pm
first, you are quoting me on things i have not said.
You're claiming you didn't say the above about losers bastardizing the code?
oh jesus christ.
You don't know what you're talking about.
1. Heartbleed was a bug in OpenSSL. OpenSSL is not "part of Linux".
it is a cryptographic library/toolkit. It is available and used on
Solaris, Linux, MacOS, QNX, the various BSD OSes, OpenVMS, Microsoft
Windows and even OS/400. think there's an OS/2 port as well, but don't
hold me to that.
So basically it affected Windows and Macs, too? :)
you cant blindly trust anybody[people you do not know], or anything.
*nix has native support for multi-tasking.. I'm not sure what the advantage would be of having DesqView ported to *nix. Unless it had other features that
I've forgotten about.
no it had mro for both
do you want a fucking screenshot or will you stop being autistic
no it had mro for both
do you want a fucking screenshot or will you stop being autistic
I think you were channeling through another user. :D
probably someone under control of my bbs botnet that kk4qbn accused me of running.
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