I worked in tech for years, and one of the things that drove me crazy
were people who worked late.
Dumas Walker wrote to POINDEXTER FORTRAN <=-
Although a few were "rock stars" in the sense that they were good at
what they did
seem to get a whole lot done during regular business hours. IMHO, they were not capable of keeping regular hours. They got just enough done
to keep their job, and those were the ones that complained the most.
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hoem before the eclipse. Just because I don't want to be on the road while the idiots smash into each other.
Although a few were "rock stars" in the sense that they were good at what they didfighters".
I work in traditional IT operations, we followed structured processes
around systems, including understanding the underlying OSes,
networking, backups, and basic systems administration.
Every once in a while we'd get a User who'd stand up a system that got
hoem before the eclipse. Just because I don't want to be on the road while the idiots smash into each other.
Not a bad plan. I learned from the last one that trying to travel on the day of a eclipse is not a good idea -- urban style traffic jams out in the middle of nowhere. ;)
i was literally working outside during the eclipse. we saw a lot of people walk out of businesses and stare into the sun. -+-
Quoting Dumas Walker to Tiny <=-
Not a bad plan. I learned from the last one that trying to travel on
the day of a eclipse is not a good idea -- urban style traffic jams out
in the middle of nowhere. ;)
Hello MRO!
i was literally working outside during the eclipse. we saw a lot of people walk out of businesses and stare into the sun. -+-
they weren't wearing the proper glasses? i guess their next
trip will be to the eye doctor.
Not a bad plan. I learned from the last one that trying to travel on the day of a eclipse is not a good idea -- urban style traffic jams out in the middle of nowhere. ;)
It ended up being cloudy here. Of course an hour after it the clouds all went away and it was a beautiful sunny evening. LOL
Ah, I've heard about that. It does seem like a bit of a game.. One more thing
to benefit the company and not the people who work for them.
Ah, I've heard about that. It does seem like a bit of a game.. One more
thing
to benefit the company and not the people who work for them.
It depends on what kind of employee you are and what your situation is. For someone like me, it wouldn't benefit me at all because I didn't take as much time off.
It depends on what kind of employee you are and what your situation is. For someone like me, it wouldn't benefit me at all because I didn't take as much time off.
I was thinking about the fact that the company wouldn't have as much debt on i
books. It sounds like with unlimited vacation, they wouldn't have to give a p
out for unused vacation when an employee is laid off or leaves for other reaso
. So if you don't take much time off, then it still affects you.
"Unlimited" PTO is a perceived benefit with little benefit to the
employee with a huge effect on company financials.
I would be absolutely surprised if nobody tries to take full advantage of that. Every Friday off? You bet!
I had a guy working for me who wanted to take off a day of PTO as soon
as it accrued. It worked out to him putting in a PTO request every first friday for months in a row.
Honestly, I think benefit to the employee depends. If I was working somewhere that had the compensation method in place and switched to unlimited, I'd be pretty upset. However, if I knew that going in, I might see it as a benefit because there'd be no limit on how much time I took (so long as it was approved).
Re: Unlimited PTO
By: Dumas Walker to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Sat Apr 13 2024 09:49 am
Honestly, I think benefit to the employee depends. If I was working somewhere that had the compensation method in place and switched to unlimited, I'd be pretty upset. However, if I knew that going in, I might see it as a benefit because there'd be no limit on how much time I took (so long as it was approved).
There's a chance you might not be able to take much time off, because things are too busy and/or your manager doesn't approve it. In that situation, I'd still like to have a payout if possible.
Not a bad plan. I learned from the last one that trying to travel on the day of a eclipse is not a good idea -- urban style traffic jams out in the middle of nowhere. ;)
i was literally working outside during the eclipse. we saw a lot of people walk out of businesses and stare into the sun.
I wonder if education programs are at fault.
As in, college graduates barely know how to code the basics so companies have
train them nearly from the ground up. It certainly seems that way in lots of elds.
I wonder how many college kids nowadays have jobs that are at least field-adjacent. We're pushing our son to get an internship this summer
so he can get some on the job experience and some resume line items
besides "worked in a grocery store".
I worked in my field and finished up school part time, so I felt like I
had some chops before I left school.
As a result, I feel like we may have received a more rounded education than current kids do.i nfeel the same way
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By: MRO to Dumas Walker on Mon Apr 08 2024 04:25 pm
i was literally working outside during the eclipse. we saw a lot of people walk out of businesses and stare into the sun.
https://x.com/JonathanSackett/status/1777833258459234521
The summer that I turned 15, I took a college class in PL/1. My motivation was actually to get my own account on their VAX 11/780 cluster, as Computing Services was getting finicky about me using my mother's VAX account. :)
Dumas Walker wrote to ARELOR <=-
I have a few friends who are teachers. They say that they are
"motivated" by their school admins/systems to teach children to be able
to pass the standardized tests that they take every year and not much else.
We took some standardized test when I was a kid but there was a
different emphasis on them back then. Like I think it was more a
measure of the student and their abilities, and less about whether or
not the school was "failing."
As a result, I feel like we may have received a more rounded education than current kids do.
Skylar wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
My high school offered a "class" that was actually an internship at a local business. No pay, but you were "out of school" for the last two classes of the day and received a credit towards graduation.
I got an
internship at Acxiom, at that time one of the largest IT companies in
my state. Unfortunately, I was a gopher for an Admin Assistant and did
not get any actual IT experience. But it was fun nonetheless.
The summer that I turned 15, I took a college class in PL/1.
My motivation was actually to get my own account on their VAX 11/780 cluster, as Computing Services was getting finicky about me using my mother's VAX account. :)
students how to turn on a VT220 terminal and log into the VAX. No, I'm
not kidding... :D
Five years later, with 5 years of professional C++ experience, I
decided to find a new position. But had no desire to go back to
college. Luckily, I didn't *need* to.
Not a bad plan. I learned from the last one that trying to travel on the day of a eclipse is not a good idea -- urban style traffic jams out in the middle of nowhere. ;)
Cleveland was actually easy in and out. The 2017 one I was stuck in horrendus affic!
Skylar wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
My high school offered a "class" that was actually an internship at a local business. No pay, but you were "out of school" for the last two classes of the day and received a credit towards graduation. I got an internship at Acxiom, at that time one of the largest IT companies in
my state. Unfortunately, I was a gopher for an Admin Assistant and did
not get any actual IT experience. But it was fun nonetheless.
I worked in my field and finished up school part time, so I felt like I
had some chops before I left school.
The summer that I turned 15, I took a college class in PL/1. My
motivation was actually to get my own account on their VAX 11/780
cluster, as Computing Services was getting finicky about me using my mother's VAX account. :)
Anyway, I became one of the "lab rats", the nickname they had for
students who spent more time than "needed" hanging out in the computer labs. After I graduated high school, I got a job as a lab supervisor. Primary duties were pulling printouts off the line printer and showing students how to turn on a VT220 terminal and log into the VAX. No, I'm
not kidding... :D
One of my friends was a senior and when he graduated the following
year, he got a job as a programmer at a startup. He was the first and
only programmer and quickly figured out they could make better progress
if he had some help. He recommended me, a 19 year old geek who loved to write code. I went from making $5/hr twiddling my thumbs in the
computer lab to $6/hr writing code at home in my pajamas. I was in
heaven. I dropped out of college and started my first full-time job.
Five years later, with 5 years of professional C++ experience, I
decided to find a new position. But had no desire to go back to
college. Luckily, I didn't *need* to.
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I'm sure you learned a lot just being around a functional corporate environment - something kids don't learn when all they do is attend classes.
One guy went from bussing tables and working at a convenience store to making $60K in a bizdev role, I got to see him continue his career while I worked there.
My company a few years back participated in an internship program called YearUp. They took kids from commuity colleges and kids working
part-time jobs after high school. Not your usual well-to-do University
kids.
A college buddy and I took C++ the first semester it was offered. We each had already been using C++ for "real world" work. The kind you get paid for.
I swear, at least once per class, one of us would raise our hand and, when Mr Bell called on us, we'd tell him the code he put on the board would not work and explain why.
Neither of us would have made good instructors. But then, neither was Mr Bell. He was literally trying to learn from our textbook so he could teach the class. And doing a lousy job of it!
I'm sure you learned a lot just being around a functional corporate environment - something kids don't learn when all they do is attend
classes.
My company a few years back participated in an internship program called YearUp. They took kids from commuity colleges and kids working
part-time jobs after high school. Not your usual well-to-do University
kids.
YearUp taught them basic office etiquette, how to use MS Office apps,
and how to interact in teams and in 1:1 settings, and they'd split time between corporate internship and classwork.
I did 3 cohorts of 2 people each and it gave me great exposure to
working and managing 20-somethings. They were a great experience for me,
and each one of them left the program with a position either at our
company or outside.
One guy went from bussing tables and working at a convenience store to making $60K in a bizdev role, I got to see him continue his career while
I worked there.
Re: Re: HAPPY TRANSGENDER DAY
By: Skylar to poindexter FORTRAN on Wed Apr 17 2024 06:21 pm
A college buddy and I took C++ the first semester it was offered. We ea had already been using C++ for "real world" work. The kind you get paid for.
I swear, at least once per class, one of us would raise our hand and, w Mr Bell called on us, we'd tell him the code he put on the board would work and explain why.
Neither of us would have made good instructors. But then, neither was M Bell. He was literally trying to learn from our textbook so he could te the class. And doing a lousy job of it!
Wow..
Before I took any C++ classes in college, I was taking some classes from the college's CIS department and took a class in Visual Basic (I don't remember I chose that one at the time). And this was 2000, and they were teaching VB I remember one day when the teacher said something like, "One of the concept in programming is object-oriented programming, but I'm not familiar with tha so I'm going to skip that."
On a side note, I later learned C++, and I've rarely used Visual Basic, although I have run into a couple Visual Basic .Net projects in my career.
Nightfox
i want to learn C with classes (c++) but damn it they only teach python i learned C myself also yuck VB!
i want to learn C with classes (c++) but damn it they only teach python
i learned C myself also yuck VB!
I just took a college intro to C++ course earlier this year ("for fun"). It' still taught, for sure.oh good!
Re: Re: HAPPY TRANSGENDER DAY
By: Skylar to poindexter FORTRAN on Wed Apr 17 2024 06:21 pm
A college buddy and I took C++ the first semester it was offered. We each had already been using C++ for "real world" work. The kind you get paid for.
I swear, at least once per class, one of us would raise our hand and, when Mr Bell called on us, we'd tell him the code he put on the board would not work and explain why.
Neither of us would have made good instructors. But then, neither was Mr Bell. He was literally trying to learn from our textbook so he could teach the class. And doing a lousy job of it!
Wow..
Before I took any C++ classes in college, I was taking some classes from the college's CIS department and took a class in Visual Basic (I don't remember why I chose that one at the time). And this was 2000, and they were teaching VB6.. I remember one day when the teacher said something like, "One of the concepts in programming is object-oriented programming, but I'm not familiar with that, so I'm going to skip that."
On a side note, I later learned C++, and I've rarely used Visual Basic, although I have run into a couple Visual Basic .Net projects in my career.
Nightfox
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Re: Re: Programming
By: Weatherman to Nightfox on Fri Apr 19 2024 08:27 am
The last programming language I took a course in was Fortran77.
You have my sincere condolences!
Although one of my all-time favorite BBS experiences was a BBS written
in Fortran.
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I think we could be the witnessing the next pickleball, all we need to do is sell cornware and find a couple of cormnhole champions to run in ads.
They could run the ads with "everyone loves a weiner" and show the champ with bratwurst.
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