Looks like the @TZUTC: and the date do not belong together.
The @TZUTC is Vertrauen timezone.
The date is my timezone.
Björn Feltens BBS interprets them together and thusly mixes up chronological ordening of the posts.

Chris

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26 Aug 24 23:17:00 Chris Jacobs (1:103/705) wrote:

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@TZUTC: -0700
@MSGID: 14343.fidotest@1:103/705 2b325f6e
@PID: Synchronet 3.20a-Linux master/e93b6dfa6 Aug 22 202 GCC 12.2.0
@TID: SBBSecho 3.20-Linux master/e93b6dfa6 Aug 22 2024 21:19 GCC 12.2.0 @BBSID: VERT
@CHRS: CP437 2
I post this 23:17 Amsterdam time.
Chris

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Re: Re: time?
By: Chris Jacobs to All on Tue Aug 27 2024 02:44 am

Looks like the @TZUTC: and the date do not belong together.
The @TZUTC is Vertrauen timezone.
The date is my timezone.
Björn Feltens BBS interprets them together and thusly mixes up chronological ordening of the posts.

This was posted in Vertrauen's local debate sub. Was that intentional?

Which FidoNet echo was your message(s) posted in, so I can take a look?

If you post messages while logged into the Vertrauen terminal server, then the message date and timezone will be Vertrauen's. Or did post the message QWK-Reply packet?
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This Is Spinal Tap quote #33:
Nigel Tufnel: Well, so what? What's wrong with bein' sexy?
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Re: Re: time?
By: Chris Jacobs to All on Tue Aug 27 2024 02:44 am

Looks like the @TZUTC: and the date do not belong together.
The @TZUTC is Vertrauen timezone.
The date is my timezone.
Björn Feltens BBS interprets them together and thusly mixes up chronological ordening of the posts.

This was posted in Vertrauen's local debate sub. Was that intentional?

I expect in Vertrauen's sub there is the most knowledge about how Vertrauen handles @TZUTC

Which FidoNet echo was your message(s) posted in, so I can take a look?

I noted the issue first in UTF-8, subject: Pistol.

If you post messages while logged into the Vertrauen terminal server,
then the message date and timezone will be Vertrauen's. Or did post the message QWK-Reply packet? --

I posted the messages with QWK.

Chris

digital man (rob)

This Is Spinal Tap quote #33:
Nigel Tufnel: Well, so what? What's wrong with bein' sexy?
Norco, CA WX: 65.8°F, 80.0% humidity, 3 mph W wind, 0.00 inches
rain/24hrs

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Re: Re: time?
By: Chris Jacobs to Digital Man on Thu Aug 29 2024 04:38 pm

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Re: Re: time?
By: Chris Jacobs to All on Tue Aug 27 2024 02:44 am

Looks like the @TZUTC: and the date do not belong together.
The @TZUTC is Vertrauen timezone.
The date is my timezone.
Björn Feltens BBS interprets them together and thusly mixes up chronological ordening of the posts.

This was posted in Vertrauen's local debate sub. Was that intentional?

I expect in Vertrauen's sub there is the most knowledge about how Vertrauen handles @TZUTC

But... debate?

Vertrauen uses Synchronet BBS software and SBBSecho for Fidonet EchoMail, so those support conferences would be the appropriate place to discuss that software.

Which FidoNet echo was your message(s) posted in, so I can take a look?

I noted the issue first in UTF-8, subject: Pistol.

If you post messages while logged into the Vertrauen terminal server, then the message date and timezone will be Vertrauen's. Or did post the message QWK-Reply packet? --

I posted the messages with QWK.

Okay, that's expected then. The posting date/time is taken from the QWK reply packet, but the timezone information is not part of the original QWK format. Synchronet does support extensions (via @TZ kludge and HEADERS.DAT file) for timezone information in reply packets, but most or all QWK message readers don't support those extensions (https://wiki.synchro.net/ref:qwk).

What QWK messager are you using? Maybe ask its author/maintainer to add support for Synchronet's timezone information in reply packets.
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Steven Wright quote #19:
I intend to live forever ... So far, so good.
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