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  • 2 months, 6 months , a year

    From STAN MCCOWAN@1:124/5013 to All on Thu Jan 31 19:10:38 2019
    Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 15:42:34 -0400
    From: STAN MCCOWAN
    To: HECTOR SANTOS
    Subject: 2 months, 6 months , a year
    Newsgroups: win.server.wish.list
    Message-ID: <1015965754.33.0@winserver.com>
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    Hector,

    We're getting ready to upgrade other web site and would like to know the time frame for Win Server 2000.

    If Win Server 2000 will be delivered in 6 months or so I can wait. If not I will have the credit card and billing build into IIS as a front end to Win Server.

    Stan
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  • From HECTOR SANTOS@1:124/5013 to All on Thu Jan 31 19:10:38 2019
    Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 16:02:30 -0400
    From: HECTOR SANTOS
    To: STAN MCCOWAN
    Subject: 2 months, 6 months , a year
    Newsgroups: win.server.wish.list
    Message-ID: <1015966950.33.1015965754@winserver.com>
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    Hector,

    We're getting ready to upgrade other web site and would like to know
    the time frame for Win Server 2000.

    If Win Server 2000 will be delivered in 6 months or so I can wait. If
    not I will have the credit card and billing build into IIS as a front
    end to Win Server.

    Stan

    But I didn't know IIS had a credit card and billing system built in?
    Do you mean SSL? Thats really the only think that will happen. You can
    do this now with WC5 with the help of a proxy.

    A billing system is still an independent general concept. What exactly
    is a billing system for Wildcat? THe most that will be done initially
    are options to hook up with a merchant account.

    In any case, 6 month is a good estimate on the high end. We already
    decided that we will not be able to fully complete all the features
    so the next version of wildcat will have the top features. In other
    words, we will do it in "modules". The next AUP will have Long File
    Name support for example.

    ---




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  • From STAN MCCOWAN@1:124/5013 to All on Thu Jan 31 19:10:38 2019
    Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 20:39:03 -0400
    From: STAN MCCOWAN
    To: HECTOR SANTOS
    Subject: RE: 2 months, 6 months , a year
    Newsgroups: win.server.wish.list
    Message-ID: <1015983543.33.1015966950@winserver.com>
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    On 3/12/02 8:28 PM, HECTOR SANTOS wrote to STAN MCCOWAN:


    Hector,

    We're getting ready to upgrade other web site and would like to know
    the time frame for Win Server 2000.

    If Win Server 2000 will be delivered in 6 months or so I can wait. If not I will have the credit card and billing build into IIS as a front end to Win Server.

    Stan

    But I didn't know IIS had a credit card and billing system built in?
    Do you mean SSL? Thats really the only think that will happen. You can
    do this now with WC5 with the help of a proxy.

    A billing system is still an independent general concept. What exactly
    is a billing system for Wildcat? THe most that will be done initially
    are options to hook up with a merchant account.

    In any case, 6 month is a good estimate on the high end. We already
    decided that we will not be able to fully complete all the features
    so the next version of wildcat will have the top features. In other
    words, we will do it in "modules". The next AUP will have Long File
    Name support for example.

    ---

    Thanks for the info Hector,

    What I mean is, we are are paying to to have our site upgraded and the company that we are using wants to use IIS and a shopping cart on the front end of winserver. I am debating if I should spent the money on the shopping cart and programming or just have them upgrade the site html look and feel, and wait for winserver updates.

    Stan



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  • From DOUGLAS BAIRD@1:124/5013 to All on Thu Jan 31 19:10:38 2019
    Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 20:48:11 -0400
    From: DOUGLAS BAIRD
    To: ALL
    Subject: Re: 2 months, 6 months , a year
    Newsgroups: win.server.wish.list
    Message-ID: <1015984323.33.0@winserver.com>
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    <HECTOR SANTOS> wrote in message
    news:1015966950.33.1015965754@winserver.com...
    In any case, 6 month is a good estimate on the high end. We already
    decided that we will not be able to fully complete all the features
    so the next version of wildcat will have the top features. In other
    words, we will do it in "modules". The next AUP will have Long File
    Name support for example.

    Does that mean if we are on AUP, WINServer2k is included?

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  • From HECTOR SANTOS@1:124/5013 to All on Thu Jan 31 19:10:38 2019
    Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 23:24:09 -0400
    From: HECTOR SANTOS
    To: STAN MCCOWAN
    Subject: RE: 2 months, 6 months , a year
    Newsgroups: win.server.wish.list
    Message-ID: <1015993449.33.1015983543@winserver.com>
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    On 3/12/02 11:21 PM, STAN MCCOWAN wrote to HECTOR SANTOS:

    Thanks for the info Hector,

    What I mean is, we are are paying to to have our site upgraded and the
    company
    that we are using wants to use IIS and a shopping cart on the front end of winserver. I am debating if I should spent the money on the shopping cart
    and
    programming or just have them upgrade the site html look and feel, and wait for winserver updates.


    Thats good. Thats what I do with IIS now for our shopping cart.

    I am not sure what else I can say. You can program anything you like
    with WCX for WINSERVER. But there are many packages that work any web
    server. The only thing missing in WC5 is a SSL connection. Some people
    have used a proxy to get around that missing part.

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  • From HECTOR SANTOS@1:124/5013 to All on Thu Jan 31 19:10:38 2019
    Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 09:40:37 -0400
    From: HECTOR SANTOS
    To: DOUGLAS BAIRD
    Subject: Re: 2 months, 6 months , a year
    Newsgroups: win.server.wish.list
    Message-ID: <1016030437.33.1015984323@winserver.com>
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    On 3/13/02 9:22 AM, DOUGLAS BAIRD wrote to ALL:


    <HECTOR SANTOS> wrote in message news:1015966950.33.1015965754@winserver.com...
    In any case, 6 month is a good estimate on the high end. We already decided that we will not be able to fully complete all the features
    so the next version of wildcat will have the top features. In other
    words, we will do it in "modules". The next AUP will have Long File
    Name support for example.

    Does that mean if we are on AUP, WINServer2k is included?

    From a technical "Upgrade/Conversion" standpoint, it isn't 100% clear.

    From a subscription standpoint, it doesn't matter, but as we always said,
    the long time AUP subscibers will benefit the most. Obviously. Its common sense. Long time AUP subscribers should have more benefits over those
    who just subsribe "yesterday." We have a new pricing schedule though and there is a breakdown over AUP discounts. AUP subscribers will get biggest discounts of course. We don't want to get into it much until we got a
    very clear picture of a release timeframe.

    What the above does says is that we will be moving the top WINSERVER/2000 features over to WC5. It will be called WC6. The upgrade path will be
    smoother with the initial requiring conversion of course.

    This will allow us to move ahead gradually instead of trying to get a million new features all finished and all documented. I have measured what the top customer issues are with WINSERVER over the past 3 years and decided that
    it is best to do this "graduaully", introducing the features we want over
    time.

    The first AUP WC6 upgrade will have:

    - Long File Name support in the FILE LIBRARY first.
    - Password Expiration Security Options
    - Logon Hour Restriction Security Options.
    - New CLOSE/VALIDATAION system operation mode.

    And other small features that was easy to move over.

    Then after this first WC6 introduction, we will add LFN to the Message
    system. The reason for this is because I have not decided on the
    final new mail format because I want to implement and test some
    64 bit operations to handle large storage requirements.

    The new WC6 has been in testing of about 3 months. It is pretty solid
    with the new LFN. Some remaining WEB DHTML programming issues to work
    with the new "New User" Closed/Validation features needs to be done.

    Hope this answers the question.

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  • From GWEN BARNES@1:124/5013 to All on Thu Jan 31 19:10:38 2019
    Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 15:36:56 -0400
    From: GWEN BARNES
    To: HECTOR SANTOS
    Subject: 2 months, 6 months , a year
    Newsgroups: win.server.wish.list
    Message-ID: <1016915816.33.1015966950@winserver.com>
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    We're getting ready to upgrade other web site and would like to know
    the time frame for Win Server 2000.

    If Win Server 2000 will be delivered in 6 months or so I can wait. If not I will have the credit card and billing build into IIS as a front end to Win Server.

    Stan

    But I didn't know IIS had a credit card and billing system built in?
    Do you mean SSL? Thats really the only think that will happen. You can
    do this now with WC5 with the help of a proxy.

    A billing system is still an independent general concept. What exactly
    is a billing system for Wildcat? THe most that will be done initially
    are options to hook up with a merchant account.

    Ever looked at PHP, Hector? This migh be a good direction to take. There
    is plenty of support in the open source community for implementations of
    PHP ecommerce.

    Here is just one random link I found on Google:

    http://www.oscommerce.com/

    Cheers
    Gwen (The Bulletin Broad)



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  • From JOE SCHWEIER@1:124/5013 to All on Thu Jan 31 19:10:38 2019
    Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 19:00:31 -0400
    From: JOE SCHWEIER
    To: HECTOR SANTOS
    Subject: Re: 2 months, 6 months , a year
    Newsgroups: win.server.wish.list
    Message-ID: <1027378831.33.1016030437@winserver.com>
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    Hector, R U changing the message format?? Does that mean wcecho will
    need updating as well??


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    Then after this first WC6 introduction, we will add LFN to the Message system. The reason for this is because I have not decided on the
    final new mail format because I want to implement and test some
    64 bit operations to handle large storage requirements.

    The new WC6 has been in testing of about 3 months. It is pretty solid
    with the new LFN. Some remaining WEB DHTML programming issues to work
    with the new "New User" Closed/Validation features needs to be done.

    Hope this answers the question.

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  • From HECTOR SANTOS@1:124/5013 to All on Thu Jan 31 19:10:38 2019
    Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 19:36:58 -0400
    From: HECTOR SANTOS
    To: JOE SCHWEIER
    Subject: Re: 2 months, 6 months , a year
    Newsgroups: win.server.wish.list
    Message-ID: <1027381018.33.1027378831@winserver.com>
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    On 7/22/02 7:36 PM, JOE SCHWEIER wrote to HECTOR SANTOS:

    Hector, R U changing the message format?? Does that mean wcecho will
    need updating as well??

    I think I did say the mail format will change eventually. If so, then everything else has to change too.

    --


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  • From CHRIS CRANFORD@1:124/5013 to All on Thu Jan 31 19:10:38 2019
    Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 20:35:33 -0400
    From: CHRIS CRANFORD
    To: HECTOR SANTOS
    Subject: Re: 2 months, 6 months , a year
    Newsgroups: win.server.wish.list
    Message-ID: <1027384533.33.1027381018@winserver.com>
    References: <1027381018.33.1027378831@winserver.com>
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    On 7/22/02 8:34 PM, HECTOR SANTOS wrote to JOE SCHWEIER:

    On 7/22/02 7:36 PM, JOE SCHWEIER wrote to HECTOR SANTOS:

    Hector, R U changing the message format?? Does that mean wcecho will
    need updating as well??

    I think I did say the mail format will change eventually. If so, then everything else has to change too.

    Do you have any idea to what capacity it will be changing and will the
    wcSDK provide backward compatibility for existing applications that
    interface to WC's message db?

    Chris


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  • From HECTOR SANTOS@1:124/5013 to All on Thu Jan 31 19:10:38 2019
    Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 20:47:09 -0400
    From: HECTOR SANTOS
    To: CHRIS CRANFORD
    Subject: Re: 2 months, 6 months , a year
    Newsgroups: win.server.wish.list
    Message-ID: <1027385229.33.1027384533@winserver.com>
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    On 7/22/02 8:46 PM, CHRIS CRANFORD wrote to HECTOR SANTOS:

    Do you have any idea to what capacity it will be changing and will the
    wcSDK provide backward compatibility for existing applications that
    interface to WC's message db?


    It will an SDK based on v5.5 operations with a discussions for v5.4.
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