Hello Everybody,

Do you think your vote counts?
Do you think it even gets counted at all?
Not that it matters, as somebody still has
to count the votes, regardless of who cast
those votes -

http://theantimedia.org/for-26-and-an-8th-grade- education-you-can-hack-a-voting-machine/

That's right. You don't have to be smart to
vote. And do don't have to be much smarter to
hack a voting machine.

Maybe we should all go back to using paper ballots.

But then we will be back to square one, the problem
being how to stuff a ballot box without getting caught.

Old-time politicians had an easy way of dealing with
this problem. Let everybody vote, and once the cans
were filled, then empty them into the nearest body
of water. Problem with unwanted votes solved.

--Lee

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Re: Hacking Democracy
By: Lee Lofaso to All on Thu Aug 13 2015 23:39:22

Maybe we should all go back to using paper ballots.

I think you're right about that part, at least. My software engineer roommate had a class at UMass Amherst that did a segment on hacking the current Diebold voting machines and that was back in Bush's first term. Besides, isn't Diebold somehow tied in to Halliburton & conglomerates?

-D
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Hello Damon,

Maybe we should all go back to using paper ballots.

I think you're right about that part, at least.

Sometimes low tech is the way to go. Not the only way,
but a better way than the alternative. Of course, anything
can be abused, including the use of paper ballots. But at
least there is a paper trail that can usually (but not always)
be found to investigate or verify.

My software engineer roommate had a class at UMass Amherst that did a segment on hacking the current Diebold voting machines and that was back

in

Bush's first term. Besides, isn't Diebold somehow tied in to Halliburton

&

conglomerates?

Does it matter? Government set the criteria. Those in charge
knew what company would be granted the contract. Everything on
the up and up. Right? From all outward appearances, yes. But
in reality, nothing could be farther from the truth.

Somebody has to write the code for the machines to work.
This was done in secret. Why?

In Australia, the code was made public, and posted online.

In the USA, no code has ever been made public or posted online.

What happens in an election in the USA? We do not have
national elections, as each state is an entity unto itself.
The votes on the machine are stored on a flash drive, with
nothing left on the machine for later retrieval. How are
you going to have a recount if there is nothing to recount?
What is there to verify? All you have is what is on that
flash drive, given to the clerk of court or secretary of
state ...

--Lee

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Re: Hacking Democracy
By: Lee Lofaso to All on Thu Aug 13 2015 23:39:22

Maybe we should all go back to using paper ballots.

I think you're right about that part, at least. My software engineer roommate had a class at UMass Amherst that did a segment on hacking the current Diebold voting machines and that was back in Bush's first term. Besides, isn't Diebold somehow tied in to Halliburton & conglomerates?

There is only one reason for resistance to requiring a voter to present
ID to prove they have the right to vote in elections; votes.

Does anyone think illegal aliens don't vote in our elections?

Does anyone think that those who have lost their right to vote don't
vote in our elections?

When a whole box full of votes are `suddenly discovered' in a back room,
or a closet, or in somebody's trunk...do you `really' think nothing is
wrong?

There's been the `graveyard' vote since I can remember! People who've been
dead for several years cast the `deciding votes' in a local or state
election.

A voter ID should be tied to a person's birth certificate or citizenship papers. No valid ID...you don't get to vote!

There is no honest reason for the continued resistance to voter ID.
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