"World Purificationism"

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(via asorted blogs & web sites) search "World Purificationism" / Purificationism (etc)


Will islam prove to be an end, or simply a means to an end in bringing about
a "purified" world, "free" of both Empire (especially the USA) and Zionism (especially Israel?).

The source document:

http://spme.net/library/pdf/PurifyingtheWorld.pdf


(a couple of extracts)

[...]

Purifying the World: What the New Radical Ideology Stands For
by Ernest Sternberg

Ernest Sternberg teaches at the University at Buffalo, State University
of New York.

Abstract: The past decade has seen the coalescence of a new ideology that envisions social movements in a cataclysmic struggle against global
capitalist Empire. Controlled by U.S. militarism and multinational corporations, in cahoots with Zionism, Empire contaminates environments
and destroys cultures.

Its defeat will bring about a new era of social justice and sustainable development, in which the diverse cultures harmoniously share the earth.
Is this a totalitarian ideology? From fascist and communist precedents,
we learn that lovers of renewed humanity are not sufficiently motivated
by abstract ideals. They must also identify humanityAEs enemy, the cause
of all suffering.

Equipped with a scapegoat, diverse communities can achieve solidarity
through shared execration.

[...]

The Enemy of Humanity 1: The United States

This is the first warning sign: that purificationism has found the new
enemy of humanity. For former ideologies, it was the global parasitical
race or brutal master class. It is now the fiendish, U.S.-dominated global system that kills untold numbers, keeps billions in misery, threatens environmental cataclysm, subverts cultures, and blocks the advent of world harmony. Note that, in the Galloway quotes, the United States'
monstrousness cannot rest simply on its savagery in having caused so many deaths. It is also guilty of killing cultures.

[...]

The Enemy of Humanity 2: Israel

Another warning sign is that Anti-Zionism pops up in the most unlikely
places and in remarkably virulent forms. At the World Social Forum meeting
at the mouth of the Amazon, 5,000 miles from Jerusalem, packed with over 100,000 purifiers from around the world, demonstrations against Israel
count as one of the three foremost accomplishments.50 In Durban, South
Africa, hundreds of governmental groups and NGOs meet allegedly to fight racism, but ignore its genocidal manifestations in Africa, and can agree
only to condemn Israel. In the United States the Green party condemns
Israel as its sole piece of foreign policy. In Britain, unionized academics vote each year to boycott Israel. In Toronto, a demonstration for equal
wages displays anti-Israel placards as does a demonstration in France
against the loss of appellation for Roquefort cheese.

What does "the defense of the true Roquefort," asks Pierre-Andre
Taguieff - France's premier author on anti-Semitismuhave to do with Palestinians or Israelis? His answer is the "neo-communism that does not
speak its name." The neo-communists, as Taguieff calls them, thrive on the
myth of the Palestinians as the authentic humiliated people, "the offended
par excellence," the pure representation of the aeaedominated and the oppressed."

Correspondingly, in "the demonized figure of Jews-Israelis-Zionists
supported by the Americans, "the new ideologues have "Zionism as an
incarnation of absolute evil."51

Why Israel? The clue is the variety that Taguieff observes in the new
movement: Islamists, Arab Nationalists, post-Christian humanitarians, thirdworldists, and anti-globalizers of various stripes.52 This is the movement's ticklish problem: how to keep so much diversity in check.
If Empire is too abstract as a nemesis, and the United States seems
too formidable, Israel represents a scapegoat manageable enough in
size, and devilish enough in the popular imagination.

[...]


Steve

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Hello Steve,

"World Purificationism"

(Background / related issues) New Age / Aquarian Age / Planetary Cleansing SA>/ Sword of Cleavage / Theosophy / Bailey / Maitreya and so on. Do your own SA>leg work, if interested or unaware of the above (only because it's 2 am here

(via asorted blogs & web sites) search "World Purificationism" / SA>Purificationism (etc)

Will islam prove to be an end, or simply a means to an end in bringing about SA>a "purified" world, "free" of both Empire (especially the USA) and Zionism SA>(especially Israel?).

Some Muslims hold the concept of there being "high" Muslims" and "low"
Muslims. The way this works is simple. Islam will become a one-world religion. All peoples in the world will be Muslim. Muslims will then
purify themselves by doing away with "low" Muslims, as "high" Muslims
are perfect in the way of Islam.

The source document:

http://spme.net/library/pdf/PurifyingtheWorld.pdf

(a couple of extracts)

[...]

Purifying the World: What the New Radical Ideology Stands For
by Ernest Sternberg

Ernest Sternberg teaches at the University at Buffalo, State University SA>of New York.

Abstract: The past decade has seen the coalescence of a new ideology that SA>envisions social movements in a cataclysmic struggle against global SA>capitalist Empire. Controlled by U.S. militarism and multinational SA>corporations, in cahoots with Zionism, Empire contaminates environments SA>and destroys cultures.

Is it a "social movement" or rather something else? The author
fails to truly understand what Islam is, or is all about. Islam
is religion of the sword. But properly understood, Islam is both
anti-violence and anti-war, as is Christianity. Judaism is
anti-violence, but not necessarily anti-war.

Its defeat will bring about a new era of social justice and sustainable SA>development, in which the diverse cultures harmoniously share the earth. SA>Is this a totalitarian ideology? From fascist and communist precedents, SA>we learn that lovers of renewed humanity are not sufficiently motivated SA>by abstract ideals. They must also identify humanityAEs enemy, the cause SA>of all suffering.

Islam is not an ideology.
Christianity is not an ideology.
Judaism is not an ideology.

Sometimes an ideology is presented as a religion.
And sometimes an ideology becomes a religion.
But that does not mean religion is an ideology.

Equipped with a scapegoat, diverse communities can achieve solidarity SA>through shared execration.

Adolf Hitler needed a scapegoat in order to succeed.
The same is true of all dictators.
What makes dictators scary is not what most people think.
All dictators have a craving to be loved.
Not just by some, or by many.
But by all.

A king, on the other hand, simply does not care.
A king makes the rules, interprets the rules, and enforces the rules.
A king does not care if others love him, or hate him.
A king does what he does.
Because he can.
And fears no one.

The Enemy of Humanity 1: The United States

[..]

The Enemy of Humanity 2: Israel

[..]

An interesting read. Makes some valid points, but all a rehash
of what has gone on before. What the author fails to mention is
every ideology depends on a leader for that ideology to succeed.
Nazi Germany was a personality cult, centered around Adolf Hitler.
Fascist Italy was more of an ideology rather than a personality
cult, as Fascist Italy would have continued regardless of who
its leader was. Communism was never really an ideology at all,
but rather a series of successive personality cults - Vladimir
Lenin, Josef Stalin, etc. One could say Stalinism was more apt
a description. Or Maoism in regards to Communist China.

When it comes to Islam, what we are seeing today is the same
as has occurred in centuries past. The danger is if a leader
emerges in the Islamic world. A leader who unites the Islamic
world to act as one.

--Lee


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Mulling over Lee Lofaso to Steve Asher 28 Jun 2010

G'day Lee,

An interesting read. Makes some valid points, but all a rehash of
what has gone on before. What the author fails to mention is every ideology depends on a leader for that ideology to succeed. Nazi
Germany was a personality cult, centered around Adolf Hitler.
Fascist Italy was more of an ideology rather than a personality
cult, as Fascist Italy would have continued regardless of who its
leader was. Communism was never really an ideology at all, but
rather a series of successive personality cults - Vladimir Lenin,
Josef Stalin, etc. One could say Stalinism was more apt a
description. Or Maoism in regards to Communist China.

When it comes to Islam, what we are seeing today is the same as has occurred in centuries past. The danger is if a leader emerges in
the Islamic world. A leader who unites the Islamic world to act as
one.

There is an expectation that such a leader will soon strut the world stage,
- the 12th Imam or Mahdi. There are differing muslim views as to the Mahdi, this is one of them:


http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/intro/islam-ithna-ashari.htm


Twelvers / Ithna Ashari Islam

The Twelvers are by far the largest group of Shiite Muslims, because the Iranians are Twelvers. Perhaps eighty percent of the Shiis are Twelvers. Twelvers constitute ninety percent of the modern population of Iran and fifty-five to sixty percent of the population of Iraq. Twelver Shiites
are the majority in Iran, Iraq, Azerbaijan and also have substantial populations in Turkey, Pakistan, Lebanon, Syria, India, Afghanistan and Bahrain.

The following of Jafar Sadik bifurcated into two branches - the Ismailis,
the followers of Ismail, and the Musawite, the supporters of Musa Kazim,
who later on came to be known as Twelvers, or Ithna Asharites. Canonical schools in Islam are called "Fiqh's". the only Fiqh's in Shia Islam, are Usuli,
Akhbari, and Shaykhi. These 3 all belong to the Ithna-Ashari or mainstream Shia
Islam, which believes in the 12 Shia Imams; hence the
name which means "Twelver's".

[...]

Modern Twelvers believe that, for his own protection, Mohammad al-Mahdi
went into "occultation" (hiding). He is reported to have communicated to
the faithful via intermediaries called Babs (Gates), the first of whom was Uthman al-Amri. When the last of the four gates died in 941 CE, the lesser occultation ended and the greater occultation began. The line of Twelver
Imams came to an end.

About the time the lesser Occultation came to an end the Twelvers came to believe that the Twelfth Imam would return to earth in the last days as the Mahdi, and would establish a reign of justice and peace on earth. After his coming, they believe, Christ will return. Some from Iran claimed when Imam Khomeini was alive that he was in fact the "Disappearing Imam" who had come back to rule. Others said that he was the Mehdi or "Promised Messiah".


Steve

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Hello Steve,

An interesting read. Makes some valid points, but all a rehash of
what has gone on before. What the author fails to mention is every >LL>ideology depends on a leader for that ideology to succeed. Nazi
Germany was a personality cult, centered around Adolf Hitler.
Fascist Italy was more of an ideology rather than a personality
cult, as Fascist Italy would have continued regardless of who its >LL>leader was. Communism was never really an ideology at all, but
rather a series of successive personality cults - Vladimir Lenin,
Josef Stalin, etc. One could say Stalinism was more apt a
description. Or Maoism in regards to Communist China.

When it comes to Islam, what we are seeing today is the same as has >LL>occurred in centuries past. The danger is if a leader emerges in
the Islamic world. A leader who unites the Islamic world to act as >LL>one.

There is an expectation that such a leader will soon strut the world stage, SA>- the 12th Imam or Mahdi. There are differing muslim views as to the Mahdi, SA>this is one of them:

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/intro/islam-ithna-ashari.htm

Twelvers / Ithna Ashari Islam

The Twelvers are by far the largest group of Shiite
Muslims, because the Iranians are Twelvers. Perhaps eighty

The concept of the Mahdi is from Shiite Muslims.
Sunni Muslims do not share the same concept.
However, both Shiite and Sunni believe all Muslims
will be united at the end of days to fight the
forces of evil.

To put things in proper perspective, look at Shiite Muslims
as being akin to Catholics, and Sunni Muslims akin to Protestants.
Shiites are more conservative and try to maintain a purity of faith
in regards to the Quran and Islam, while Sunni are more liberal and
open to some changes or differences in interpretation.

percent of the Shiis are Twelvers. Twelvers constitute
ninety percent of the modern population of Iran and fifty-
five to sixty percent of the population of Iraq. Twelver
Shiites
are the majority in Iran, Iraq, Azerbaijan and also have substantial SA>populations in Turkey, Pakistan, Lebanon, Syria, India, Afghanistan and SA>Bahrain.

Overall in the Arab world, as well as worldwide, Sunni outnumber
Shiite. And there are smaller sects, Islam not being limited to Shiite
and Sunni. However, all Muslims share a common faith, and also a common
belief that all will be united at the end of days.

In addition to the belief that all Muslims will be united, Muslims
believe that Muslims, Christians and Jews will be united at the end
of days to fight the forces of evil.

What Muslims mean by unity is not necessarily the same thing as what
most Christians think is meant. But that is for another post. :)

--Lee


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On 07/03/10, Jeff Snyder quoted Lee Lofaso: "World Purificationism".

What Muslims mean by unity is not necessarily the same thing as what most Christians think is meant. But that is for another post. :)

Lee, I've studied and written about this stuff as well; and what it means
is that, ultimately, anyone -- including Christians and Jews -- who do not embrace the precepts of Islam, will be beheaded. Some people may wonder why,
in the modern world, which is supposedly "enlightened", the Book of
Revelation talks about Believers being beheaded for their faith. Well,
the Qur'an offers a very clear answer -- "Chop, chop! Off goes your head,
you infidel!". Once again God's Word will be proven true:

"And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto
them: and I SAW THE SOULS OF THEM THAT WERE BEHEADED FOR THE WITNESS OF
JESUS, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast,
neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years." Revelation 20:4, KJV

What more needs to be said?


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What more needs to be said?

Plenty.

Let's start by looking at how Ernest Sternberg
framed the argument. From the body of his paper:

"The new ideology is most clearly identified by what it
opposes. Its enemy is the global monolith called Empire,
which exerts systemic domination over human lives,
mainly from the America. (sic) Empire does so by means
of economic liberalism, militarism, multinational corporations,
corporate media, and technologies of surveillance, in
cahoots with, or under the thrall of, Empires most sinister
manifestation, namely Zionism. So far, there is no controversy
- these points will be readily admitted by advocates as well
as critics."


Sternberg refers to Zionism as "Empire's most sinister
manifestation." You mentioned Revelation 20:4.
Please connect the dots.

Are you suggesting that it's not the evil "Empire"
that forces the number of the beast, it's the enemies
of the Empire, the progressives allied with followers of
Islam? If that's not what you're saying, please explain.

How do we recognize the mark of the beast in order to refuse it?

Can you elaborate on the timeline of events mentioned in Rev 20:4?
How long will it take to force everyone to take the mark of the beast?

How many "chop, chop" are we talking?
How long will it take to perform that many?
I mean, are we talking a weak resistance or a strong resistance?

What if someone refuses to take the mark, and decides to use
firearms to fight against those wielding scimitars, guillotines or
whatever it is they're using?

What if "they" devised a way to force the mark of the beast on you,
and they already did without you knowing it?

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Hello Jeff,

What Muslims mean by unity is not necessarily the same thing as what mos >LL>Christians think is meant. But that is for another post. :)

Lee, I've studied and written about this stuff as well; and what it means JS>is that, ultimately, anyone -- including Christians and Jews -- who do not JS>embrace the precepts of Islam, will be beheaded.

That is a cartoon-strip understanding of Islam. Most Muslims view
beheading as being un-Islamic, being a misinterpretation of the Quran.

Most anti-Muslim sites quote a handful of quotes from the Quran as
their basis for hatred of Muslims. However, taking such quotes out of
context is a poor example of what is really meant. Islam is both
anti-violence and anti-war. How can beheadings be part of a religion
that is both anti-violence and anti-war? It is obvious that wars are
not fought with kid gloves. War is violent. And aggressive. There
is nothing merciful about war, given its very nature. War is man's
inhumanity toward his fellow man. There is absolutely nothing Islamic
about that.

As you know, beheading has been used long before Islam ever came
about. For example, St. Paul was beheaded by the Romans. Not only
that, but Christians also used beheadings to great effect, including
chopping off the heads of other Christians. That is what happened
to St. Thomas More, who lost his head due to his refusal to bow before
the King. And then there were the French, who invented the guillotine.
More recently, beheadings have become a topic among Jews, especially
in regards to the Noahide laws.

Some people may wonder why, in the modern world, which is supposedly JS>"enlightened", the Book of Revelation talks about Believers being JS>beheaded for their faith. Well, the Qur'an offers a very clear answer
-- "Chop, chop! Off goes your head, you infidel!".

Islam means (literally) - "peace and submission to Allah".
Jesus said exactly the same thing - "Render unto Caesar what is
Caesar's, unto God what is God's."

Are you suggesting that Christians do as Jesus commanded, by chopping
off the heads of all infidels? Gosh. With Muslims chopping off the
heads of Christians and Jews, and Christians chopping off the heads of
Muslims and Jews, and Jews chopping off the heads of Christians and
Muslims, who will be left to rule the world?

Perhaps it would be best to discard that cartoon-strip understanding
of Islam and seek the truth. :)

"What is truth?" - Pontius Pilate to Jesus

Jesus had no answer.

Once again God's Word will be proven true:

"And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto JS>them: and I SAW THE SOULS OF THEM THAT WERE BEHEADED FOR THE WITNESS OF JS>JESUS, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, JS>neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads,
or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand JS>years."

The how is not important, whether by beheading, gas chamber, lethal
injection, firing squad, or whatever. The thousand years is merely
a reference meaning a long period of time. What this has to do with
Islam is beyond me, as there is absolutely no reference to Islam in
the entire bible, much less the book of Revelation. And any period
of time does come to an end, as it must.

The fact of the matter is that Christians have always been persecuted.
So have Muslims. And peoples of other faiths. Your point?

Revelation 20:4, KJV

What happens when the thousand years are over, at the end of human
history? Is it the end of the story? Is that all she wrote?

What more needs to be said?

Satan is unleashed again. That is what happens. And what does
he do? He seduces all the nations of the earth and musters people
for war. And then comes The End. The End of All. Don't believe
me? It's all there. In the Good Book. Right after Revelation 20:4.
Read it. :)

--Lee


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Hello Kevin,

Welcome to the Conscprcy echo. Please feel free to enjoin
in participation, and also to introduce topics of your own.

What more needs to be said?

Plenty.

Let's start by looking at how Ernest Sternberg
framed the argument. From the body of his paper:

"The new ideology is most clearly identified by what it
opposes. Its enemy is the global monolith called Empire,
which exerts systemic domination over human lives,
mainly from the America. (sic) Empire does so by means
of economic liberalism, militarism, multinational corporations,
corporate media, and technologies of surveillance, in
cahoots with, or under the thrall of, Empires most sinister KG>manifestation, namely Zionism. So far, there is no controversy
- these points will be readily admitted by advocates as well
as critics."

Sternberg refers to Zionism as "Empire's most sinister
manifestation." You mentioned Revelation 20:4.
Please connect the dots.

Zionism is a political movement. A political movement that has never
been dismantled. Kinda like manifest destiny, except the goal being the
entire world (or at least a very large section of it).

Are you suggesting that it's not the evil "Empire"
that forces the number of the beast, it's the enemies
of the Empire, the progressives allied with followers of
Islam? If that's not what you're saying, please explain.

Excellent questions. But none I can answer, as I'm not Jeff. :)

How do we recognize the mark of the beast in order to refuse it?

Can you elaborate on the timeline of events mentioned in Rev 20:4?
How long will it take to force everyone to take the mark of the beast?

How many "chop, chop" are we talking?
How long will it take to perform that many?
I mean, are we talking a weak resistance or a strong resistance?

What if someone refuses to take the mark, and decides to use
firearms to fight against those wielding scimitars, guillotines or KG>whatever it is they're using?

What if "they" devised a way to force the mark of the beast on you,
and they already did without you knowing it?

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Consprcy echo

--Lee


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