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    From Rick Eck@1:18/15 to Steve Asher on Thu Jan 12 22:00:04 2006
    The
    Bible warns that the time is coming when they will say "peace
    and safety", then sudden destruction will come upon them, and
    they will not escape. (1 Thessalonians 5:3)


    From my knowledge, there will be 3.5 years of peace and safety and then 3.5 years of distruction. A totaly of 7 years of tribulation. Now I am not one to "Predict" the future, but notice one thing that is said during that time is that there will be one world currency. Notice how everyone and every place takes ATM/Debit cars and credit cards? Sure there are places that still take cash, and checks. But the checks are getting phased out. Here in my town there are just a handfull that take checks, and where we used to live in Irving TX, most places didn't take checks. And around there, most people uses ATM/credit cards.

    Just gives you something to think about.

    Lizard Man..Reptile of the Night
    Sysop of the Lizard Lounge ONLINE
    telnet: lizardlounge.dyndns.org

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  • From Steve Asher@3:800/432 to Rick Eck on Mon Jan 16 01:37:00 2006
    Mulling over Rick Eck to Steve Asher 12 Jan 2006

    Hi Rick,

    Bible warns that the time is coming when they will say "peace
    and safety", then sudden destruction will come upon them, and
    they will not escape. (1 Thessalonians 5:3)


    From my knowledge, there will be 3.5 years of peace and safety and
    then 3.5 years of distruction. A totaly of 7 years of tribulation.

    Yes, that is much as I understand it.

    Now I am not one to "Predict" the future, but notice one thing that
    is said during that time is that there will be one world currency.

    I think the US Dollar and Euro, for example, will coexist perhaps right
    to the end; Israel will probably insist on the Shekel, but computers
    and "on-line" transactions make the currency & denomination easy to
    convert to some "universal" value.

    Notice how everyone and every place takes ATM/Debit cars and credit
    cards? Sure there are places that still take cash, and checks.

    Yes, I still pay with cash & have no credit or debit card. I used cheques
    a lot, but not recently as my bank charged an ever-increasing fee.

    But the checks are getting phased out. Here in my town there are
    just a handfull that take checks, and where we used to live in
    Irving TX, most places didn't take checks. And around there, most
    people uses ATM/credit cards.

    Just gives you something to think about.

    Yes, I have been thinking about it for much of my life, and watching it
    come to pass. ATM/credit cards and the like are a step towards a system
    where people's physical identities are "bound" to their "electronic" or "on-line" identities, and where people "will be able" to pay their
    parking fines, order library books, vote, shop, apply & pay for drivers licences on-line. "Will be able" is code for "will have little choice
    but to", whether they want to or not.


    Cheers, Steve..

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  • From Rick Eck@1:18/15 to Steve Asher on Wed Jan 18 21:59:56 2006
    Notice how everyone and every place takes ATM/Debit cars and credit cards? Sure there are places that still take cash, and checks.

    Yes, I still pay with cash & have no credit or debit card. I used cheques
    a lot, but not recently as my bank charged an ever-increasing fee.

    My wife and I were talking about this today. Without Direct deposit, most baks charge for checking. They want this to reduce the tellers. If it can be done electronicly, they will reward you by not charging you. The banks in this area, will give you 25 checks, after that you pay for writing checks. So, whate does it come to? Online pay. Everything is going to all electronical. Almost reminds me of the "Left Behind" Movies


    Yes, I have been thinking about it for much of my life, and watching it
    come to pass. ATM/credit cards and the like are a step towards a system
    where people's physical identities are "bound" to their "elect
    "on-line" identities, and where people "will be able" to
    parking fines, order library books, vote, shop, apply & pay for drivers licences on-line. "Will be able" is code for "will have little
    but to", whether they want to or not.


    Once again, Everything is being forced to all electronical. Look at a neat thing Mobil has. "Speed Pass". Sure, it is neat, and easy. But is it a thing to come? Something everyone will use? Next it will just be our finger print! No longer needing a card, or a device. Just our fingerprint will pay/buy everything. Even more to think about...

    Lizard Man..Reptile of the Night
    SysOp of the Lizard Lounge ONLINE
    telnet: lizardlounge.dyndns.org

    --- Virtual Advanced Ver 2 for DOS
    * Origin: AT2k Design BBS - bbs.at2k.org - Clarksville, TN (1:18/15)
  • From Steve Asher@3:800/432 to Rick Eck on Sat Jan 21 22:08:18 2006
    Mulling over Rick Eck to Steve Asher 18 Jan 2006

    Notice how everyone and every place takes ATM/Debit cars and credit cards? Sure there are places that still take cash, and checks.

    Yes, I still pay with cash & have no credit or debit card. I used cheques
    a lot, but not recently as my bank charged an ever-increasing fee.

    My wife and I were talking about this today. Without Direct
    deposit, most baks charge for checking. They want this to reduce
    the tellers. If it can be done electronicly, they will reward you
    by not charging you. The banks in this area, will give you 25
    checks, after that you pay for writing checks. So, whate does it
    come to? Online pay. Everything is going to all electronical.
    Almost reminds me of the "Left Behind" Movies

    25 cheques a month?, or a year? I could make two "high value" withdrawals
    a month for free, but now it is only if I keep a minimum balance, so in
    effect all transactions were charged. By the time it got to $2.75 a transaction, I looked around for alternatives. One is very good, and I
    have not to pay a fee in the time I have been using it, but it does not
    have cheque book, so I live without it. The seeds were sown about 20
    years ago, when employers stopped paying in cash, and forced employees
    to have their wages / salary direct deposited into their bank accounts.
    It was a captive market for the banks, who could then slowly introduce
    fees and charges when people withdrew their wages.

    Yes, I have been thinking about it for much of my life, and watching it
    come to pass. ATM/credit cards and the like are a step towards a system
    where people's physical identities are "bound" to their "elect
    "on-line" identities, and where people "will be able" to
    parking fines, order library books, vote, shop, apply & pay for drivers licences on-line. "Will be able" is code for "will have little
    but to", whether they want to or not.

    Once again, Everything is being forced to all electronical. Look
    at a neat thing Mobil has. "Speed Pass". Sure, it is neat, and
    easy. But is it a thing to come? Something everyone will use?
    Next it will just be our finger print! No longer needing a card,
    or a device. Just our fingerprint will pay/buy everything. Even
    more to think about...

    And then, there will be cases of fraud, possibly involving the finger
    data, or ambiguity where people have damaged or missing prints ... I
    used to collect rocks when I was young, and they were very rough on
    fingers & prints. The "solution" will be some form of mark that can
    be scanned even if a person has had the fingers damaged in an accident,
    fire etc.

    Cheers, Steve..

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