• Bo Holt

    From Jay Harris@1:229/664 to All on Mon Mar 4 16:10:30 2024
    I've seen several messages To: Bo Holt here but no messages From them.

    Can someone post one of their messages with the path & seen-by's please & thanks?


    Jay

    ... I've started sleeping in our fireplace. Now I sleep like a log!
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  • From Rob Swindell to Jay Harris on Mon Mar 4 14:13:46 2024
    Re: Bo Holt
    By: Jay Harris to All on Mon Mar 04 2024 04:10 pm

    I've seen several messages To: Bo Holt here but no messages From them.

    Can someone post one of their messages with the path & seen-by's please & thanks?

    Most recent message from Bo Holt here:

    Bo Holt
    To Aug
    Subject Re: Offline Mail Reader
    X-FTN-AREA CHAT
    X-FTN-SEEN-BY 1/120 18/0 103/705 123/0 525 3001 124/5016 134/100 135/115 138/
    146
    X-FTN-SEEN-BY 153/143 148 149 757 802 7715 154/30 203/0 221/0 6 229/426 240/1
    120
    X-FTN-SEEN-BY 240/5832 250/1 261/38 275/100 1000 280/464 292/8125 301/1 310/3
    1
    X-FTN-SEEN-BY 341/66 234 342/11 396/45 423/120 460/58 633/280 712/848 1321 X-FTN-SEEN-BY 770/1 3634/0 12 56 57 5020/400
    X-FTN-PATH 123/525 3634/12 153/7715 757 280/464
    SenderNetType FidoNet
    SenderNetAddr 1:123/525.1
    Message-ID <65E501B0.41339.chat@vert.synchro.net>

    ^^^ That message-ID implies the message was received here on Vertrauen withOUT an FTN MSGID kludge in place.
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  • From Jay Harris@1:229/664 to Rob Swindell on Mon Mar 4 18:14:48 2024
    On 04 Mar 2024, Rob Swindell said the following...

    X-FTN-PATH 123/525 3634/12 153/7715 757 280/464
    Message-ID <65E501B0.41339.chat@vert.synchro.net>

    ^^^ That message-ID implies the message was received here on Vertrauen withOUT an FTN MSGID kludge in place.

    That could explain it. I've had a few messages arrive here with no MSGID kludge & hpt put it in my DUPE base (even though they weren't dupes).

    No sign of any of these messages in my DUPE base though, so maybe there's a break upstream or the message was flagged as a dupe?


    Jay

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  • From August Abolins@1:153/757.21 to Jay Harris on Mon Mar 4 19:13:00 2024
    Hello Jay Harris!

    ** On Monday 04.03.24 - 16:10, Jay Harris wrote to All:

    I've seen several messages To: Bo Holt here but no messages From them.

    Can someone post one of their messages with the path & seen-by's please & thanks?

    Most recent message from Holt here:

    EMP: /FIDO/CHAT
    ABS: Bo Holt@1:123/525.1
    BET: Re: Offline Mail Reader
    ROT: 2:221/1!123/525 3634/12 153/7715 757 280/464 221/1
    MID:
    EDA: 20240303173100W+0
    LEN: 502
    MAILER: Renegade v1.30/DOS
    X_C:
    X-XP-NTP: 30
    F-TO: Aug

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  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Jay Harris on Tue Mar 5 08:43:46 2024
    Hi Jay,

    On 2024-03-04 18:14:48, you wrote to Rob Swindell:

    ^^^ That message-ID implies the message was received here on
    Vertrauen withOUT an FTN MSGID kludge in place.

    That could explain it. I've had a few messages arrive here with no MSGID kludge & hpt put it in my DUPE base (even though they weren't dupes).

    Bo is using a (very) old version of Renegade. It's known for not generating kludge lines at all. So no MSGID:'s and REPLY:'s, for instance.

    If he insists on keep using it, he has to accept his messages won't travel through the net very well, and might be stopped at some hubs...


    Bye, Wilfred.

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  • From Bo Holt@1:123/525.1 to Jay Harris on Tue Mar 5 19:45:52 2024
    I'm here LOL. Are you receiving this?

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  • From Bo Holt@1:123/525.1 to Wilfred Van Velzen on Tue Mar 5 19:49:44 2024
    Bo is using a (very) old version of Renegade. It's known for not generatin kludge lines at all. So no MSGID:'s and REPLY:'s, for instance.

    If he insists on keep using it, he has to accept his messages won't travel through the net very well, and might be stopped at some hubs...

    I'm not the SysOp. I'm on The Alcoholiday BBS at the moment where I do most of my FidoNet posts. Perhaps I should use another BBS for Echomail.

    --- Renegade v1.30/DOS
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  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Bo Holt on Wed Mar 6 09:25:19 2024
    Hi Bo,

    On 2024-03-05 19:49:44, you wrote to me:

    Bo is using a (very) old version of Renegade. It's known for not
    generatin kludge lines at all. So no MSGID:'s and REPLY:'s, for
    instance.

    If he insists on keep using it, he has to accept his messages won't
    travel through the net very well, and might be stopped at some hubs...

    I'm not the SysOp. I'm on The Alcoholiday BBS at the moment where I do most of my FidoNet posts. Perhaps I should use another BBS for Echomail.

    The choice is yours of course. But if you want your messages to be seen by everyone, that might help. ;-)


    Bye, Wilfred.

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  • From Jay Harris@1:229/664 to Bo Holt on Wed Mar 6 04:29:42 2024
    On 06 Mar 2024, Wilfred van Velzen said the following...

    I'm not the SysOp. I'm on The Alcoholiday BBS at the moment where I most of my FidoNet posts. Perhaps I should use another BBS for Echom

    The choice is yours of course. But if you want your messages to be seen
    by everyone, that might help. ;-)

    You might want to use another BBS. I've not seen any of your messages here on my system or my uplink. Others are getting your messages and responding, and I see those responses, but never your original messages.


    Jay

    ... Why did the can crusher quit he job? He was soda pressed

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to BO HOLT on Wed Mar 6 09:43:00 2024
    I'm not the SysOp. I'm on The Alcoholiday BBS at the moment where I
    most of my FidoNet posts. Perhaps I should use another BBS for
    Echomail.


    You are welcome to try this one if you'd like.

    Mike


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  • From Carol Shenkenberger@1:275/100 to Jay Harris on Thu Mar 7 14:05:52 2024
    Re: Re: Bo Holt
    By: Jay Harris to Bo Holt on Wed Mar 06 2024 04:29 am

    On 06 Mar 2024, Wilfred van Velzen said the following...

    I'm not the SysOp. I'm on The Alcoholiday BBS at the moment where most of my FidoNet posts. Perhaps I should use another BBS for Ec

    The choice is yours of course. But if you want your messages to be seen by everyone, that might help. ;-)

    You might want to use another BBS. I've not seen any of your messages here my system or my uplink. Others are getting your messages and responding, an see those responses, but never your original messages.


    Jay

    ... Why did the can crusher quit he job? He was soda pressed


    I see all of them and always have. SBBS.
    xxcarol
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  • From Bo Holt@2:371/52 to Wilfred van Velzen on Sat Mar 9 01:01:50 2024
    I'm on Roon's right now... maybe it handles the message IDs properly.

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  • From Bo Holt@2:371/52 to Jay Harris on Sat Mar 9 01:04:32 2024
    I'm on a different BBS now. Is this better? ;)

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  • From Bo Holt@2:371/52 to Mike Powell on Sat Mar 9 01:05:04 2024
    capitolcityonline? I'll check it out!

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  • From Jay Harris@1:229/664 to Bo Holt on Fri Mar 8 20:36:20 2024
    On 09 Mar 2024, Bo Holt said the following...

    I'm on a different BBS now. Is this better? ;)

    Yes, I actually see this message! :)


    Jay

    ... What did one flag say to the other? Nothing, it just waved

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  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Bo Holt on Sat Mar 9 10:22:13 2024
    Hi Bo,

    On 2024-03-09 01:01:50, you wrote to me:

    @MSGID: 2:371/52.0 65ebb4fe
    @REPLY: 2:280/464 65e8289e
    I'm on Roon's right now... maybe it handles the message IDs properly.

    It seems to do so. But there are no quotes from the message you are replying to...

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    Bye, Wilfred.

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  • From August Abolins@1:153/757.21 to Wilfred van Velzen on Sat Mar 9 08:59:00 2024
    Hello Wilfred van Velzen!

    @MSGID: 2:371/52.0 65ebb4fe
    @REPLY: 2:280/464 65e8289e
    I'm on Roon's right now... maybe it handles the message
    IDs properly.

    It seems to do so. But there are no quotes from the message you are replying to...

    But the @msgid and @reply tie the conversation thread together
    very nicely this time.
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    ../|ug

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  • From Bo Holt@2:371/52 to Jay Harris on Thu Mar 28 00:18:36 2024
    Well, we're making progress LOL. Did this reply quote your message? I'm still trying to get that to work.

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  • From Bo Holt@2:371/52 to Wilfred van Velzen on Thu Mar 28 00:21:28 2024
    Still trying to figure out quoting on this BBS and why I'm looking for a good offline reader... lots of things needing my immediate attention at the moment :/


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  • From Jay Harris@1:229/664 to Bo Holt on Wed Mar 27 21:23:34 2024
    On Thursday March 28 2024, Bo Holt said the following...

    @MSGID: 2:371/52.0 6604b75c
    @REPLY: 1:229/664 64c0177e
    Well, we're making progress LOL. Did this reply quote your message?
    I'm still trying to get that to work.

    --- Maximus/2 3.01
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    @PATH: 371/52 0 240/1120 280/464 103/705 218/700 229/426

    I'm getting your messgage here, but not with any quotes.


    Jay

    ... The guy at the sub shop will make you a hero
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  • From Bo Holt@2:371/52 to Jay Harris on Tue Apr 2 01:30:46 2024
    Yes, no quotes.... can't figure it out yet on the dang BBS stock editors unfortunately. I'll be getting my offline editor soon ;)

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  • From Daniel Path@2:371/52 to Bo Holt on Tue Apr 2 22:56:05 2024
    Hello Bo,

    02 Apr 24 01:30, you wrote to Jay Harris:

    Yes, no quotes.... can't figure it out yet on the dang BBS stock
    editors unfortunately. I'll be getting my offline editor soon ;)

    check out the help, it's not so difficult :)

    Regards,
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    dp

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