• FastEcho and BT-style outbounds

    From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to All on Fri Jun 5 22:28:51 2009
    * Crossposted in BINKLEY

    Hello, All.

    I've a registered copy of FastEcho 1.46p1 (the last update). I want to try using it, but there was some sort of bug that has to do with it and BT-style outbounds. Does anyone know about this and how to fix it?

    Later,
    Sean

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.1 to Sean Dennis on Fri Jun 5 20:00:56 2009
    Sean Dennis wrote to All:

    I've a registered copy of FastEcho 1.46p1 (the last update). I want to try using it, but there was some sort of bug that has to do with it and BT-style outbounds. Does anyone know about this and how to fix it?

    I used FE for a number of years with both BT and ArcMail attach. Both
    worked just fine for me.. I don't recall having any troble with either
    method.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12 to Sean Dennis on Mon Jun 8 22:23:38 2009

    I've a registered copy of FastEcho 1.46p1 (the last update). I
    want to try using it, but there was some sort of bug that has to do
    with it and BT-style outbounds. Does anyone know about this and
    how to fix it?

    IIRC, the p1 version is the bugfix version for that problem... one of us would have to check my fileareas to verify that, though ;)

    [time]

    i see pl1 as being for the Pack -p ignoring netmail messages with some certain ^aFLAGS being set...

    dunno anything more than that as i run FD style... i just love the dynamic on-the-fly packing that it does when schedules change and/or netmails are edited and saved ;)

    )\/(ark


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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to mark lewis on Tue Jun 9 07:28:14 2009
    Hello, mark.

    Monday June 08 2009 at 22:23, you wrote to me:

    dunno anything more than that as i run FD style... i just love the
    dynamic on-the-fly packing that it does when schedules change and/or netmails are edited and saved ;)

    FD's fine if you're not running a network like I am; if you lose mail, you lose
    everything and not just a couple of packets. If I wasn't running my own network, I'd use a dynamic mailer.

    Later,
    Sean

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12 to Sean Dennis on Wed Jun 10 21:45:54 2009

    dunno anything more than that as i run FD style... i just love the
    dynamic on-the-fly packing that it does when schedules change and/or netmails are edited and saved ;)

    FD's fine if you're not running a network like I am;

    i've never had any problems with the 2 or three networks i run here...

    /me scratches head...

    if you lose mail, you lose everything and not just a couple of
    packets. If I wasn't running my own network, I'd use a dynamic
    mailer.

    hunh?? FD rebuilds everything from the netmail messages in the netmail area... i'm confused, i think... aren't i?

    )\/(ark


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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to mark lewis on Wed Jun 10 22:27:37 2009
    Hello, mark.

    Wednesday June 10 2009 at 21:45, you wrote to me:

    hunh?? FD rebuilds everything from the netmail messages in the netmail area... i'm confused, i think... aren't i?

    No, you're right. What I'm saying is that if you lose the netmail messages, you lose all of your mail. I prefer to have my mail stored away from my netmail messages, heh. I've had things blow up on me a few times that caused me to shy away from ARCmail mailers, but if it works for you, that's great. I did use SGMail for a while but I found that the utilities I like to use with my
    board didn't work with a dynamic mailer, so I've stuck with BT for over a decade now.

    Later,
    Sean

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  • From Richard Webb@1:116/901 to Sean Dennis on Thu Jun 11 18:58:28 2009
    HI Sean,

    On Wed 2037-Jun-10 22:27, Sean Dennis (1:18/200) wrote to mark lewis:

    hunh?? FD rebuilds everything from the netmail messages in the netmail area... i'm confused, i think... aren't i?

    No, you're right. What I'm saying is that if you lose the netmail messages, you lose all of your mail. I prefer to have my mail
    stored away from my netmail messages, heh. I've had things blow up
    on me a few times that caused me to shy away from ARCmail mailers,
    INdeed, same could be said if you accidentally bomb a flo
    file too though.

    Imho were I running a dynamic mailer I"d have a netmail area for me and users, which I could then have netmgr or some
    other like utility move to the primary netmail area where my mailer could then see and act upon it. OTher than that,
    when it came to managing it, the mailer would do all that.
    I could go through the human accessible nm area and kill
    received msgs, etc. when/if I chose and not worry about
    messing up system operations. That would be my cure for
    that potential problem anyway.

    I stick with this one because I'm used to how it works.
    When/if I can do something for transporting fidonet traffic
    over internet here I'll probably reevaluate and then stick
    with the concept I'm familiar with.

    I did that for awhile anyway back in the day just to
    separate users' netmail from mine, and to have a squish
    style netmail area but needed *.msg style nm area for raid
    iirc.


    Regards,
    Richard
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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Richard Webb on Thu Jun 11 13:30:55 2009
    Richard Webb wrote to Sean Dennis:

    Imho were I running a dynamic mailer I"d have a netmail area for me and users, which I could then have netmgr or some
    other like utility move to the primary netmail area where my mailer could then see and act upon it. OTher than that,
    when it came to managing it, the mailer would do all that.
    I could go through the human accessible nm area and kill
    received msgs, etc. when/if I chose and not worry about
    messing up system operations. That would be my cure for
    that potential problem anyway.

    I ran FD with RA when I first setup years ago. I found it to be an
    excellent mailer. It's much like BinkleyTerm or other mailers in
    that it will go right ahead and do what you tell it to.. :)

    The only reason I moved on to BinkleyTerm was to have a look, and
    I stuck with it during my dial-up days. I used Portal Of Power
    to, I rather liked that one.

    I stick with this one because I'm used to how it works.
    When/if I can do something for transporting fidonet traffic
    over internet here I'll probably reevaluate and then stick
    with the concept I'm familiar with.

    If you ever do need an IP mailer I would use Binkd. It uses the
    Binkley style outbound to. You could use both binkleyTerm and
    Binkd on the same outbound. You can just add the nodes you want
    binkd to send to to it's config and it'll send those and not touch
    the other stuff.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Richard Webb@1:116/901 to Alan Ianson on Thu Jun 11 23:00:00 2009
    Hi Alan,

    On Thu 2037-Jun-11 13:30, Alan Ianson (1:153/757) wrote to Richard Webb:

    I ran FD with RA when I first setup years ago. I found it to be an excellent mailer. It's much like BinkleyTerm or other mailers in
    that it will go right ahead and do what you tell it to.. :)

    I found this to be true as well. Ran fd for a short time on my point setup to learn how to use it because I was helping
    a couple of local sysops get fido connected, this was over a decade ago btw.

    I'm more comfortable with text file configuration so
    binkleyterm is a better fit for me.

    When/if I can do something for transporting fidonet traffic
    over internet here I'll probably reevaluate and then stick
    with the concept I'm familiar with.

    If you ever do need an IP mailer I would use Binkd. It uses the
    Binkley style outbound to. You could use both binkleyTerm and Binkd
    on the same outbound. You can just add the nodes you want binkd to
    send to to it's config and it'll send those and not touch the other
    stuff.


    YEp, gathered that from a sample config I've seen, but am
    still looking for complete docs in something other than a
    graphical file format. I haven't found any ascii docs which is the only real compatible thing that would do me any good. Also, no way to utilize it at this time anyway, so rather
    immaterial for me. But, when I'm able to I"ll probably look more seriously for
    ascii docs.

    Regards,
    Richard
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