Hi im a Gifford living near a place in doncaster that a john gifford owned.Its called hooton pagnall hall. They owned it for around 40 years apparently. They were catholics and are buried in saint marys and st chad in brewood England. I have been trying to trace back my ancestors to see if they are of the same line as my family have always lived in the same area which is a 10 minute walk from hooton pagnall hall. Also my great grandfather was called william. But i cant find a name for his father. I have my great great grandmas name and she was called mary ggifford. Hope this info is a help.
Marc Gifford
On 30/08/18 19:30, marcpgifford234567@gmail.com wrote:ned. Its called hooton pagnall hall. They owned it for around 40 years appa= rently. They were catholics and are buried in saint marys and st chad in br= ewood England. I have been trying to trace back my ancestors to see if they=
Hi im a Gifford living near a place in doncaster that a john gifford ow=
Marc Gifford
1. As this message came from Google Groups I'm assuming a minimum of newsgroup knowledge and replying both to group and direct to the poster.=
In general you should look to the group for replies. Also, most
people using newsgroups use a proper Usenet service - Google Groups in
this respect is the rather sad remnant of a Usenet archive. The soc.genealogy.britain FAQ at http://www.genealogy-britain.org.uk/ should=
be helpful.
2. You don't say at what date the Giffords owned Hooton Pagnall Hall so=
without doing our own research we've no idea whether it was medieval or=
not. If it wasn't medieval soc.genealogy.britain would be more
appropriate. In any case genealogy works backwards from the present and=
that would certainly belong in s.g.b. rather than s.g.m. although it
seems to be overrun with spam these days.
3. In general newsgroups don't offer a general finding service for genealogists except for particularly challenging problems. As you seem=
to be starting out your best first step would be to buy a good
beginners' book on British/English genealogy - there's a good variety to=
choose from and also look at what your local family history society can=
offer: https://doncasterfhs.co.uk/
4. Basically up to 1837 you work with Civil Registration certificates
for births, marriages and deaths (BMD). A useful search site for those=
is https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl which enables you to click through to the General Register Office to buy certificates. (Hint:
always buy them from the GRO - buying through other agencies costs
more). Before 1837 you need to rely on parish registers for baptisms, marriages and burials. http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/WRY/HootonPagnell tells you who
holds the originals of these - Donny archives which is handy for you!
Also, from 1841 there are census records which complement and
cross-check on the BMD data. familysearch.org is a general free genealogical search site (I assume that as you're a Yorkshireman you
have the same aversion as myself to spending cash) but the subscription=
sites Ancestry and FindMyPast contain more original document images;
your local library may well have a subscription for one of these you can=
use.
5. As you're asking a lot of people to read what you write, rather than=
imposing on them the extra effort of reading, please take the extra
effort in writing and use capital letters where appropriate. That puts=
the effort on one person, you, instead of on the many which is more efficient and likely to produce more replies.
Ian
Hi im a Gifford living near a place in doncaster that a john gifford owne=d. Its called hooton pagnall hall. They owned it for around 40 years appare= ntly. They were catholics and are buried in saint marys and st chad in brew= ood England. I have been trying to trace back my ancestors to see if they a=
Marc Gifford
I don't know about non-US users, but FamilySearch, while still free, nowrequires that you sign up for an account. (I have yet to do so, because some of
On 06/09/18 13:10, P J Evans wrote:requires that you sign up for an account. (I have yet to do so, because some of
I don't know about non-US users, but FamilySearch, while still free, now
The standard approach to such pointless demands for accounts is to make
up a name and anything else they want. I took this up with them and got
a nonsense reply. In return they have a nonsense account.
I really don't know why people do these things, especially in these days
of GDPR.
Ian
On 06/09/18 13:10, P J Evans wrote:w requires that you sign up for an account. (I have yet to do so, because s= ome of the information they want is past my personal-information release li= mit.)
I don't know about non-US users, but FamilySearch, while still free, no=
The standard approach to such pointless demands for accounts is to make=
up a name and anything else they want. I took this up with them and got=
a nonsense reply. In return they have a nonsense account.
The demand, from familysearch.org, is not 'pointless' from their point of=view. Some of the people who grant permission for their records to be us=
The difference is so small to be essentially zero to anyone familiar with=the internet and computers. To some 85 year old priest in a village in I= taly apparently these guarantees are impactful.
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