I'm just curious what everyone's favorite BBS software is? It's not my
intent to start a flame war/argument, I'm just curious what BBS software you like and why. I've been running Synchronet (in Windows) since 2007, and although I like it, I've started to get curious about other BBS software and what advantages/disadvantages they might offer over Synchronet. Mystic seems popular, and I keep thinking I'd like to give that a try. I know there are people who dislike Mystic though (for various reasons which I don't remember offhand).

I've considered eventually moving my BBS to Linux (although not likely any
time soon), and I've heard Synchronet has some support for using DOSEMU for 16-bit DOS doors, which could make that a bit easier. When I started running
a BBS again, I initially started with EleBBS since EleBBS is a clone of RemoteAccess, which I used in the 90s. I eventually decided on Synchronet though, due to an issue I was running into with EleBBS. Also, it looks like EleBBS hasn't been maintained in years - I'm not sure if EleBBS has been abandoned..

Eric
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On 05/11/16, Eric Oulashin said the following...

I'm just curious what everyone's favorite BBS software is? It's not my intent to start a flame war/argument, I'm just curious what BBS software you like and why. I've been running Synchronet (in Windows) since 2007, and although I like it, I've started to get curious about other BBS software and what advantages/disadvantages they might offer over Synchronet. Mystic seems popular, and I keep thinking I'd like to give that a try. I know there are people who dislike Mystic though (for various reasons which I don't remember offhand).

I have quite a few favorite BBS software. I run Mystic because of the simplicity of it. It does what I want a BBS to do and it does it well. It is also easy on the eyes and can easily be made to look any way you want it to.

I also like Synchronet and would have not have to think twice about putting a BBS online with Synchronet. I also like your editor for Synchronet. :)

MBSE is also on the list. It has the most robust mailer/ticer/tosser I have seen. Mystic comes very close to this at this point and things FTN are on the TODO list of Mystic.

There are others too but that is about the limit of my (recent)
experimentation with BBS software.

Ttyl :-),
Al

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A13 (Linux)
* Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (1:153/757)

My favorite was Oblivion/2 back in the day. Currently running Mystic wish is pretty sweet itself. I will be putting up another board that will run the
old OBV/2 software again.. I believe I have all of the telnet issues worked
out with it. Stay tuned for that one in the near future :)

-Mitch

--- Mystic BBS v1.11 (Windows)
* Origin: The VOiD BBS thevoid.servebbs.org (1:226/20)

Eric Oulashin wrote to All <=-

I'm just curious what everyone's favorite BBS software is? It's not my I've considered eventually moving my BBS to Linux (although not likely
any time soon), and I've heard Synchronet has some support for using DOSEMU for 16-bit DOS doors, which could make that a bit easier. When

I am running MBSE BBS which has full support for DOS doors. Running a Linux-based BBS can be a rather steep learning curve but once it's done,
you'll enjoy your system and BBS. MBSE was never a "finished" product but
it is open source and there's a few of us who poke at the code occasionally, mainly Andrew Leary at this time.

MBSE uses DOSemu, but my DOSemu setup is from the git master and highly modified for my system. I use PC-DOS 2000 for my DOS setup and the doors
work fine. Scrabble gives me fits, but I think it's because of custom
FOSSIL code that wasn't really well-written...something I can't do anything about.

Anyhow, after using about 40 different BBS packages over the years, I've
seen many pros and cons to each package. Really, it comes down to what you like and what you want out of your hobby. If it's not fun, then there's something wrong (has always been my motto).

As for Linux-based BBS software, there's Synchronet, Mystic, MBSE, BBBS, etheral (I think?), Waffle, Pyffle, and a whole plethora of others that I
don't remember. The first three are actively being supported and BBBS is
still supported although development is slow from what I understand.
(Janis, Jame, Ross, Sean: can you comment?)

I admit: I still miss my OS/2 setup but it was just getting too long in the tooth and I needed more autonomy with the BBS running itself and running headless to keep going that direction.

--Sean

--- MultiMail/Linux
* Origin: Outpost BBS * Limestone, TN, USA (1:18/200)

I'm just curious what everyone's favorite BBS software is? It's not my

I tend to like Mystic, because you don't have to jump through hoops to do things with it.

But some might say I have a bias. ;)

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A14 (Windows)
* Origin: Sector 7 [Mystic BBS WHQ] (1:129/215)

Re: Favorite BBS software
By: Alan Ianson to Eric Oulashin on Wed May 11 2016 17:40:10

I have quite a few favorite BBS software. I run Mystic because of the simplicity of it. It does what I want a BBS to do and it does it well. It is also easy on the eyes and can easily be made to look any way you want it to.

That's basically what I've often heard about Mystic.

I also like Synchronet and would have not have to think twice about putting a BBS online with Synchronet. I also like your editor for Synchronet. :)

Thanks. :)

Eric
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Re: Re: Favorite BBS software
By: Sean Dennis to Eric Oulashin on Wed May 11 2016 21:57:22

Anyhow, after using about 40 different BBS packages over the years, I've seen many pros and cons to each package. Really, it comes down to what you like and what you want out of your hobby. If it's not fun, then there's something wrong (has always been my motto).

Yeah, I agree there. I still enjoy my BBS running Synchronet, so I'll probably continue with Synchronet for the time being.

Eric
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On May 11, 2016 04:48pm, Eric Oulashin wrote to All:

I'm just curious what everyone's favorite BBS software is? It's not my intent to start a flame war/argument, I'm just curious what BBS
software you like and why. I've been running Synchronet (in Windows) since 2007, and although I like it, I've started to get curious about other BBS software and what advantages/disadvantages they might offer
over Synchronet. Mystic seems popular, and I keep thinking I'd like to give that a try. I know there are people who dislike Mystic though
(for various reasons which I don't remember offhand).

I've always loved Wildcat... and Winserver, although it's expensive, has every bell and whistle imaginable. It's a lot more configurable than Synchronet... but you don't have the source code. Synchronet is still developing their fidonet, but Winserver has all but stoped development of it as they considr it a dead technology.

To be honest, Fidonet could totally be revived if someone would write an iPad/Android app that interfaces with a BBS Server.

Allen

... Buckle up; it makes it harder for the aliens to suck you out of the car. --- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v3.0pr5
* Origin: Derby City LiveWire - Louisville, KY - livewirebbs.dy (1:2320/100)

On May 11, 2016 08:24pm, Eric Oulashin wrote to Sean Dennis:

Yeah, I agree there. I still enjoy my BBS running Synchronet, so I'll probably continue with Synchronet for the time being.

The most comfortable system I encountered was when I was in High School in my Freshman year I got an afterschool job with a company called D.I.S.K. (Digital Information System of Kentucky). It was an old Dec PDP11 machine had tons of games and Louisville's first publically accessable usenet and the early form
of internet e-mail with !bang addresses.

Looked much like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWOfN9p5E8k

I went in afterschool did homework and answered all the console bells and alarms that went off. It took about 64 callers at a time and occasionally I would get a customer call and yell at me because they got booted off and couln't get back on and wanted a credit becuase they didn't get to finish
their whatever they were doing at the time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWOfN9p5E8k

That's what the old machine looked like and yes when homework was done I
played the space invaders... there was an old game called DECWars that was
kind of like a starwars / tradewars kind of game that people played against each other. And ASCII Checkers... those were the days.

A long time ago, on a node far, far away (from ucbvax)
a great Adventure (game?) took place...


XXXXX XXXXXX XXXX X X XX XXXXX XXXXX X
X X X X X X X X X X X X X
X X XXXXX X X X X X X X XXXX X
X X X X X XX X XXXXXX XXXXX X X
X X X X X XX XX X X X X X X
XXXXX XXXXXX XXXX X X X X X X XXXX X


And I had my little BBS at home that could not compare. DISK was located in a little small shopping strip next to a phone company office building. There
was a massive cable that literally stretched between the buildings and people actually paid $5.00 an hour to connect to that thing.

Allen

... Buckle up; it makes it harder for the aliens to suck you out of the car. --- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v3.0pr5
* Origin: Derby City LiveWire - Louisville, KY - livewirebbs.dy (1:2320/100)

Re: Re: Favorite BBS software
By: Eric Oulashin to Sean Dennis on Wed May 11 2016 08:16 pm

Re: Re: Favorite BBS software
By: Sean Dennis to Eric Oulashin on Wed May 11 2016 21:57:22

Anyhow, after using about 40 different BBS packages over the years, I've seen many pros and cons to each package. Really, it comes down to what you like and what you want out of your hobby. If it's not fun, then there's something wrong (has always been my motto).

Yeah, I agree there. I still enjoy my BBS running Synchronet, so I'll probably continue with Synchronet for the time being.

It's funny no one mentioned WWIV, but it's in somewhat active development today and was the last BBS software I ran before writing and switching-to Synchronet.

That said, when I play around with other BBS software today (including WWIV) it makes me all the more proud of the quality and comprehensiveness of Synchronet. :-)

You should definitely install and experiment with whatever's available and if you see some good ideas, steal them for Synchronet. That's what I do. :-)

digital man

Synchronet "Real Fact" #65:
Synchronet was conceived of and mostly developed in southern California.
Norco, CA WX: 61.7°F, 81.0% humidity, 0 mph SE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs

Eric Oulashin wrote in a message to All:

I'm just curious what everyone's favorite BBS software is? It's not

I've looked at pretty much all of them over the years. The ones I've run the
longest were: Remote Access, Telegard, Maximus, Synchronet, and Ezycom.

I had RA and TG customized to the point people would ask what software it was. My favorite to play with was Maximus, and I had it doing things that still amaze me to this day (I have the old HDD as an image I can boot with Virtualbox).

I also ran WINS for a couple of years, and while I liked it, the fido aspect of the board wasn't good enough for me. I had lots of corruptions and had to keep the damn settings written down on paper so I could re create them a few times a year.

Been with Ezycom for 4-5 years now I think... Whenever I got rid of WINS, and
love it. Very easy to work the fidonet parts, and now that Gamesrv has support
for win32 doors I have the telnet ones back.

Shawn
... If it's stupid but works, it isn't stupid.
---
* Origin: Tiny's Trailer (1:229/452.1)

On 05/11/16, James Coyle said the following...

I'm just curious what everyone's favorite BBS software is? It's not

I tend to like Mystic, because you don't have to jump through hoops to do things with it.

But some might say I have a bias. ;)

Heheheh, Mystic is the best thing out there right now, and here's why:

-- Setting up FTNs is the easiest process I've seen on any software. Nothing extra is needed to get up and running or to host a net.
-- The built-in full screen editor is the best in the game --Reading/scanning/replying to messages is the best in the game.
-- Everything can be customized, and it's not hard to do
-- Nice lightweight program, runs great on Raspberry Pi.
-- And much much more....

I have to commend you James for making FTNs so trivial to setup. No more of that mailer/tosser dance... my messages arrive, my TIC files arrive, my nodelists compile automatically. It's perfect!

--- Mystic BBS v1.11 (Raspberry Pi)
* Origin: Alcoholiday / Est. 1995 / alco.bbs.io (1:123/525)

Re: RE: Favorite BBS software
By: Allen Prunty to Eric Oulashin on Thu May 12 2016 00:31:38

I've always loved Wildcat... and Winserver, although it's expensive, has every bell and whistle imaginable. It's a lot more configurable than Synchronet... but you don't have the source code. Synchronet is still developing their fidonet, but Winserver has all but stoped development of it as they considr it a dead technology.

Yeah, I like that Synchronet is still developing in that area. Also, I think having the source code can be a mixed bag - Although it can be nice to have, if you make any customizations for your BBS, you would have to re-apply your customizations whenever you upgrade to a new version. That could get tedious, and it's possible the author could totally change the code so that you would have to re-think your customizations.

To be honest, Fidonet could totally be revived if someone would write an iPad/Android app that interfaces with a BBS Server.

Several years ago, there was an iOS app I saw called iSSH that actually had great BBS ANSI emulation (and also did telnet). I heard iSSH was removed from the iOS app store though. Not sure if that's the type of app you meant when you say "BBS server" though?

Eric
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Re: Favorite BBS software
By: Shawn Highfield to Eric Oulashin on Thu May 12 2016 06:25:06

I had RA and TG customized to the point people would ask what software it was.

I think it would be cool to be at that point.. I've customized my BBS, but so far I haven't got anyone asking what software it is. :)

Eric
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I have to commend you James for making FTNs so trivial to setup. No more of that mailer/tosser dance... my messages arrive, my TIC files arrive,
my nodelists compile automatically. It's perfect!

Wholeheartedly agree!

Ruben Figueroa
Mystic Prison Board Sysop
telnet://pb.darktech.org:24
Web: www.rdfig.net

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A13 (Windows)
* Origin: Mystic Prison Board*Mesquite Tx*pb.darktech.org:24 (1:124/5014)

I'm just curious what everyone's favorite BBS software is? It's not my intent to start a flame war/argument, I'm just curious what BBS software you like and why. I've been running Synchronet (in Windows) since 2007,

I have a pretty long list of favorites. Since I started BBSing and sysoping back in the early 80s on the Apple // side of things, there have been many systems that stood out.

One of the first on the PC side of the house that will always be held near and dear is WWIV. To me, WWIV started many other favorites and one of the main reason I went with it back then was the ability to have the complete source code once registered. You can turn it into just about anything you can imagine
once you learned how to code.

That being said, I still run a highly modded classic WWIV system and always will. There are several other BBS packages that I really like. Mystic would have to be top of my list if I was starting out and wasn't running my classic WWIV. I have even considered running a second BBS using it and still might.

So here is a list of some of my favorites:

WWIV, Mystic, Renegade, Oblivion/2, Vision/2, Celerity, Forum, Iniquity, and Synchronet.

- Mark

--- WWIVToss v.1.51
* Origin: http://www.weather-station.org * Bel Air, MD -USA (1:261/1304.0)

Several years ago, there was an iOS app I saw called iSSH that actually had great BBS ANSI emulation (and also did telnet). I heard iSSH was removed

from

the iOS app store though. Not sure if that's the type of app you meant when you say "BBS server" though?

No when I say client server there are apps that take the phpbb, smf
forums and kunena forms and put them into an iOS app like TapATalk or
ForumApp. If we make the interface a bit more natve to the mobile
devices then BOOM we are in again.

Allen
--- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v3.0pr5
* Origin: Derby City LiveWire - Louisville, KY - livewirebbs.dy (1:2320/100)

I have to commend you James for making FTNs so trivial to setup. No more of that mailer/tosser dance... my messages arrive, my TIC files arrive,
my nodelists compile automatically. It's perfect!

Thank you for the comments. This is what I am going for :)

And if I do release this 2.0 or pull it back into 1.12, its going to kick things up another notch too :)

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A14 (Windows)
* Origin: Sector 7 [Mystic BBS WHQ] (1:129/215)

One of the first on the PC side of the house that will always be held near and dear is WWIV. To me, WWIV started many other favorites and one of the main reason I went with it back then was the ability to have the complete source code once registered. You can turn it into just about anything you can imagine once you learned how to code.

I'd think a major downside to changing the source to customize your system is that if you wanted to upgrade to a newer version of WWIV, you'd have to re-apply
your customizations to the code (and then test it again to ensure your changes work in the new version). And in some cases, the author's code may change so much that it might be very difficult to apply your customizations again.

Eric
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Several years ago, there was an iOS app I saw called iSSH that
actually had great BBS ANSI emulation (and also did telnet). I heard
iSSH was removed

from

the iOS app store though. Not sure if that's the type of app you
meant when you say "BBS server" though?

No when I say client server there are apps that take the phpbb, smf
forums and kunena forms and put them into an iOS app like TapATalk or ForumApp. If we make the interface a bit more natve to the mobile
devices then BOOM we are in again.

Ah, I see. That would cover the public message areas, but what about
things like files and door games? Door games in particular are still
fairly popular.

Also, for the type of app you're describing, I think the BBS server
software would likely need to specially support that, too. Some BBS
software (such as Synchronet) has a built-in NNTP server, which may work
with an app like that, but NNTP is probably not an optimal protocol for
that purpose.

Eric
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Also, for the type of app you're describing, I think the BBS server software would likely need to specially support that, too. Some BBS software (such as Synchronet) has a built-in NNTP server, which may work with an app like that, but NNTP is probably not an optimal protocol for that purpose.

This is very true. It would require something like a custom web service and
a custom app specifically designed to use it which may not be worth the effort...

Just like you said, software like Synchronet (and Mystic) can already access many parts of a BBS on mobile and tablets using the various servers.

Message bases can be accessed via NNTP clients on iOS and Android. I know a few people who travel that use this method exclusively to keep up with their message bases while on the go, using Mystic's NNTP server (or Mystic and JAMNNTPD).

The same could be said about using POP3/SMTP for private BBS specific mail, and FTP for file bases. All of which Mystic, and I think Synchonet and a couple others can do.

Given the limited real estate on a mobile device, I can't imagine the existing NNTP client apps would have an interface much different than what a custom application would have... just a little lack of cohesion between it all.

I think some BBSes in China create their own custom mobile applications for accessing their specific BBS.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A14 (Windows)
* Origin: Sector 7 [Mystic BBS WHQ] (1:129/215)

On 05/12/16, James Coyle said the following...

Thank you for the comments. This is what I am going for :)

And if I do release this 2.0 or pull it back into 1.12, its going to kick things up another notch too :)

I am with you whether it is 2.0 or 1.12. If you are ready for 2.0 so am I.. :)

Ttyl :-),
Al

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A13 (Linux)
* Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (1:153/757)

I tend to like Mystic, because you don't have to jump through hoops to do things with it.

But some might say I have a bias. ;)

True and I agree.

I will admit that my classic modded WWIV setup is very custom and I do lots of hoop jumping. I compare it to having a classic car - it takes some TLC and things only I know how to do to it, to keep it running.

The new WWIV 5.0 is much easier to setup than the version I'm running, but we still lack the native FTN support.

- Mark

--- WWIVToss v.1.51
* Origin: http://www.weather-station.org * Bel Air, MD -USA (1:261/1304.0)

It's funny no one mentioned WWIV, but it's in somewhat active development today and was the last BBS software I ran before writing and switching-to Synchronet.
That said, when I play around with other BBS software today (including WWIV) it makes me all the more proud of the quality and comprehensiveness of Synchronet. :-)

You should definitely install and experiment with whatever's available
and if you see some good ideas, steal them for Synchronet. That's what I do. :-)

I mentioned WWIV but might have been late to the game. WWIV has had lots of work done to it over the past year or two. Both the BBS itself and the WWIVnet.

For those that might not know, WWIVnet is alive and well and uses BinkP to transfer packets (as of when I became the NC 1@1 for WWIVnet).

- Mark

--- WWIVToss v.1.51
* Origin: http://www.weather-station.org * Bel Air, MD -USA (1:261/1304.0)

Heheheh, Mystic is the best thing out there right now, and here's why:

-- Setting up FTNs is the easiest process I've seen on any software. Nothing extra is needed to get up and running or to host a net.
-- The built-in full screen editor is the best in the game --Reading/scanning/replying to messages is the best in the game.
-- Everything can be customized, and it's not hard to do
-- Nice lightweight program, runs great on Raspberry Pi.
-- And much much more....

I have to commend you James for making FTNs so trivial to setup. No more
of that mailer/tosser dance... my messages arrive, my TIC files arrive,
my nodelists compile automatically. It's perfect!

Agreed...

I will say this. I have been a sysop since the early 1980s. Started on the Apple //c running Apple-Net 2.4 back then. Ever since I went PC back in around
1986, I have been running WWIV. Nothing else. Never even tested anything else.

That being said, I have tested and toyed around with Mystic. I have never even
touched another BBS platform in all that time.

Not saying I would ever ditch WWIV, but I have without a doubt thought about running a second BBS under Mystic for fun.

- Mark

--- WWIVToss v.1.51
* Origin: http://www.weather-station.org * Bel Air, MD -USA (1:261/1304.0)

I'd think a major downside to changing the source to customize your
system is that if you wanted to upgrade to a newer version of WWIV, you'd have to re-apply
your customizations to the code (and then test it again to ensure your changes work in the new version). And in some cases, the author's code
may change so much that it might be very difficult to apply your customizations again.

Totally agree - and now you know why I'm still technically running WWIV 4.24a over here. I think almost everyone else is running WWIV 5.0 but me.

I went through some major pain on each WWIV upgrade back in the day. Re-adding
mods, most others wrote but some I wrote. So many that I don't remember what is stock and what isn't anymore.

When WWIV 4.30 came out, I found it easier to take what I wanted from WWIV 4.30
and add it to my 4.24a. :)

Having the source code gives you the ultimate flexibility, but it doesn't come without it's own set of issues. You just hit one one of the major ones!

- Mark

--- WWIVToss v.1.51
* Origin: http://www.weather-station.org * Bel Air, MD -USA (1:261/1304.0)

Ah, I see. That would cover the public message areas, but what about things like files and door games? Door games in particular are still fairly popular.

Also, for the type of app you're describing, I think the BBS server software would likely need to specially support that, too. Some BBS software (such as Synchronet) has a built-in NNTP server, which may work with an app like that, but NNTP is probably not an optimal protocol for that purpose.

Winserver already has the "Wildcat Navigator" if Hector would release an
API for it i'm sure that other aspects can be added. As for files
every thing on the ipad and Android goes through their respective app
stores unless you jailbreak or go through a developer access. Many
won't do that.

As for doors even a whole new class of games could be developed... but conferences and messaging has been the heart of the BBS since day 1.

Allen

--- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v3.0pr5
* Origin: Derby City LiveWire - Louisville, KY - livewirebbs.dy (1:2320/100)

12 May 16 13:58, you wrote to Eric Oulashin:

Several years ago, there was an iOS app I saw called iSSH that
actually had great BBS ANSI emulation (and also did telnet). I heard
iSSH was removed from the iOS app store though. Not sure if that's
the type of app you meant when you say "BBS server" though?

No when I say client server there are apps that take the phpbb, smf
forums and kunena forms and put them into an iOS app like TapATalk or ForumApp. If we make the interface a bit more natve to the mobile
devices then BOOM we are in again.

i guess you haven't heard of AFTERSHOCK or HOTDOGED? those are the echo tags for those two ""smart phone"" FTN point system apps...

)\/(ark

Always Mount a Scratch Monkey

... You're dead, this is the afterlife and I'm God!
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* Origin: (1:3634/12.73)

On May 12, 2016 10:25pm, Mark Lewis wrote to Allen Prunty:

i guess you haven't heard of AFTERSHOCK or HOTDOGED? those are the echo tags for those two ""smart phone"" FTN point system apps...

Points are self contained and they lose the "local" flavor of the BBS. I've tried to subscribe to both echos and no traffic exists in either of them even with a %rescan on two systems that claim high message retention I suspect they are passed through.

If you don't believe a mobile interface is relevant I can show you a facebook page that has 250,000 users and 86% of the people who use it use mobile devices. Very few end user consumers use computers unless their job depends on it. Apple's PC sales have dropped drastically... their development focus has been the mobile apps... and the surface laptops are taking over in the PC World (I hate the damn things).

Allen

... Buckle up; it makes it harder for the aliens to suck you out of the car. --- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v3.0pr5
* Origin: Derby City LiveWire - Louisville, KY - livewirebbs.dy (1:2320/100)

Message bases can be accessed via NNTP clients on iOS and Android. I know a >few people who travel that use this method exclusively to keep up with their >message bases while on the go, using Mystic's NNTP server (or Mystic and >JAMNNTPD).

I know that there is FTN software out there for the Android as well. I've
used it (can't think of the name off the top of my head right now of the package) as a point system to carry only the echos I read with me :)

--- ViaMAIL!/SL v2.00
* Origin: Neptune's Lair SL * Memphis TN * slbbs.winserver.org (1:116/17)

Winserver already has the "Wildcat Navigator" if Hector would release an
API for it i'm sure that other aspects can be added. As for files
every thing on the ipad and Android goes through their respective app
stores unless you jailbreak or go through a developer access. Many
won't do that.

Installing the wcSDK from your WINServer installation CD would be a good
place to start looking for this as I believe there is sample code contained
in that that is a decent starting point.

--- ViaMAIL!/SL v2.00
* Origin: Neptune's Lair SL * Memphis TN * slbbs.winserver.org (1:116/17)

i guess you haven't heard of AFTERSHOCK or HOTDOGED? those are the echo tags >for those two ""smart phone"" FTN point system apps...

Thank you. I had forgotten the names of these to programs in my previous message regarding this. :)

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13 May 16 09:23, you wrote to me:

On May 12, 2016 10:25pm, Mark Lewis wrote to Allen Prunty:

i guess you haven't heard of AFTERSHOCK or HOTDOGED? those are the
echo tags for those two ""smart phone"" FTN point system apps...

Points are self contained and they lose the "local" flavor of the BBS.

one might look at it like that but message bases are message bases are message bases...

I've tried to subscribe to both echos and no traffic exists in either
of them even with a %rescan on two systems that claim high message retention I suspect they are passed through.

AFTERSHOCK contains 106 messages on my systems... the last one was in 2016 Apr... HOTDOGED has 642 with the latest one being the monthly rules posting on the first of this month...

If you don't believe a mobile interface is relevant I can show you a

sorry but frankly i don't care about "mobile interface"... an app for this and an app for that?? gimme a break... they're none of them anything more than dedicated browsers deep down... i'll keep my general prupose browser that i control ;)

now, what kind of special interface is really needed for a mobile or tablet to access a BBS?? seems to me that one only needs a telnet or ssh app... possibly a rlogin one, too... aside from that, what is really and truly needed??

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Hi Allen!

13 May 2016 09:23, from Allen Prunty -> Mark Lewis:

i guess you haven't heard of AFTERSHOCK or HOTDOGED? those are
the echo tags for those two ""smart phone"" FTN point system apps...

I've tried to subscribe to both echos and no traffic exists in either
of them even with a %rescan on two systems that claim high message retention I suspect they are passed through.

Both have traffic.

Hotdoged last message is this one:
From : Benny Pedersen 29 May 2016 23:24

171 messages since feb 2015.

I would suggest that you get another echo feed.

CU, Ricsi

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On Jun 05, 2016 02:54am, Richard Menedetter wrote to Allen Prunty:

Hi Allen!

13 May 2016 09:23, from Allen Prunty -> Mark Lewis:

i guess you haven't heard of AFTERSHOCK or HOTDOGED? those are
the echo tags for those two ""smart phone"" FTN point system apps...

I've tried to subscribe to both echos and no traffic exists in either
of them even with a %rescan on two systems that claim high message
retention I suspect they are passed through.

I feed from Ross Cassell now... will try a rescan through him.

Allen

/\llen

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Hi Allen!

04 Jun 2016 23:21, from Allen Prunty -> Richard Menedetter:

i guess you haven't heard of AFTERSHOCK or HOTDOGED? those are
the echo tags for those two ""smart phone"" FTN point system
apps...

I've tried to subscribe to both echos and no traffic exists in
either of them even with a %rescan on two systems that claim
high message retention I suspect they are passed through.

I feed from Ross Cassell now... will try a rescan through him.

I get it from Thorsten Bamberg.
He is part of the FidoWeb.

BTW. Aftershock echo is also active (but with less traffic).

BTW please stop yiour hostile takeover in the amiga echo!

CU, Ricsi

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<moderator hat on>

BTW please stop yiour hostile takeover in the amiga echo!

That is *OFF-TOPIC* in this echo.

This is your first warning.

Thanks,
Sean
BBS_CARNIVAL Moderator
</moderator hat off>


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Hi Sean!

05 Jun 2016 21:25, from Sean Dennis -> Richard Menedetter:

BTW please stop yiour hostile takeover in the amiga echo!

That is *OFF-TOPIC* in this echo.
This is your first warning.

Thank you very much for reminding me to unsubscribe this echo.
This omission has just been rectified.

CU, Ricsi

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Hello Richard,

Thank you very much for reminding me to unsubscribe this echo.

It's nice when the trash takes itself out. Saves me the effort of a feed cut.

Don't let the door hit you where the good Lord split you.

Later,
Sean

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