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    From Bjarte Boe@2:222/2 to Kim Heino on Thu Jul 26 19:07:06 2018
    Hi Kim,

    Any recent change in BBBS due to GPDR?

    Kindly regards,

    Bjarte

    --- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-4
    * Origin: * BCG-Box, On The Air Since 11th February 1987! * (2:222/2)
  • From Benny Pedersen@2:230/0 to Bjarte Boe on Thu Jul 26 18:43:44 2018
    Hello Bjarte!

    26 Jul 2018 19:07, Bjarte Boe wrote to Kim Heino:

    Any recent change in BBBS due to GPDR?

    is this a joke ?


    Regards Benny

    ... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

    --- Msged/LNX 6.1.2 (Linux/4.17.10-gentoo (x86_64))
    * Origin: I will always keep a PC running CPM 3.0 (2:230/0)
  • From Bjarte Boe@2:222/2 to Benny Pedersen on Fri Jul 27 17:21:50 2018
    Hello Benny,

    Any recent change in BBBS due to GPDR?
    is this a joke ?

    Well, why do you think it is a joke?

    The GPDR regulations applies to organizations and individuals whom processing personal data, like name, email address, and so on in their own system.

    The only exceptions from the GPDR regulations are personal data processing of national security reasons or crime prevention.

    Am I wrong that GPDR also apply to BBSes?

    Kindly regards,

    Bjarte

    --- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-4
    * Origin: * BCG-Box, On The Air Since 11th February 1987! * (2:222/2)
  • From Benny Pedersen@2:230/0 to Bjarte Boe on Fri Jul 27 17:16:50 2018
    Hello Bjarte!

    27 Jul 2018 17:21, Bjarte Boe wrote to Benny Pedersen:

    Any recent change in BBBS due to GPDR?
    is this a joke ?
    Well, why do you think it is a joke?

    yes

    The GPDR regulations applies to organizations and individuals whom processing personal data, like name, email address, and so on in their own system.

    we dont do this on fidonet

    The only exceptions from the GPDR regulations are personal data processing of national security reasons or crime prevention.

    do we have criminals on fidonet ?

    Am I wrong that GPDR also apply to BBSes?

    it possible BBBS needs cookie handling


    Regards Benny

    ... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

    --- Msged/LNX 6.1.2 (Linux/4.17.10-gentoo (x86_64))
    * Origin: I will always keep a PC running CPM 3.0 (2:230/0)
  • From Vince Coen@2:250/1 to Bjarte Boe on Fri Jul 27 20:47:32 2018
    Hello Bjarte!

    Friday July 27 2018 17:21, you wrote to Benny Pedersen:

    Hello Benny,

    Any recent change in BBBS due to GPDR?
    is this a joke ?

    Well, why do you think it is a joke?

    The GPDR regulations applies to organizations and individuals whom processing personal data, like name, email address, and so on in their
    own system.

    The only exceptions from the GPDR regulations are personal data
    processing of national security reasons or crime prevention.

    Am I wrong that GPDR also apply to BBSes?

    From what I can see if the BBS runs as a club and the only info requested is Nane, Town, Country then personal info is at a minimum.

    Here once registration is completed these three otems are the only one's stored.

    Should point out that the BBS details are shown are the beginning of registration as a welcome msg.

    As for the Mailer (and for that matter the file tossing processes) GPDR does not apply.


    Vince

    --- Mageia Linux v6/Mbse v1.0.7.6/GoldED+/LNX 1.1.501-b20150715
    * Origin: Air Applewood, The Linux Gateway to the UK & Eire (2:250/1)
  • From Rune Johansen@2:222/2 to Bjarte Boe on Wed Aug 1 15:40:04 2018
    Hi Bjarte.

    The GPDR regulations applies to organizations and individuals whom processing personal data, like name, email address, and so on in their own system.
    The only exceptions from the GPDR regulations are personal data processing of national security reasons or crime prevention.

    Article 2c, the regulation does not apply to the processing of personal data by
    a natural person in the course of a purely personal or household activity. Also, see recital 18, which states that if it has no connection to a professional or commercial activity, it is not in the scope of GDPR, including correspondences, holding of addresses, social networking and online activity undertaken within the context of these activities.

    Am I wrong that GPDR also apply to BBSes?

    If run by a private person or in a private household with no commercial or professional purpose, yes.

    Rune


    --- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-4
    * Origin: * BCG-Box, On The Air Since 11th February 1987! * (2:222/2)
  • From Bjarte Boe@2:222/2 to Rune Johansen on Thu Aug 2 08:34:54 2018
    Hi Rune,

    The GPDR regulations applies to organizations and individuals whom processing >> personal data, like name, email address, and so on in their own system. >>The only exceptions from the GPDR regulations are personal data processing of >> national security reasons or crime prevention.
    Article 2c, the regulation does not apply to the processing of personal data b
    a natural person in the course of a purely personal or household activity. Also, see recital 18, which states that if it has no connection to a
    professional or commercial activity, it is not in the scope of GDPR, including
    correspondences, holding of addresses, social networking and online activity undertaken within the context of these activities.

    Thank you for the full answer, it louds clear.

    Am I wrong that GPDR also apply to BBSes?
    If run by a private person or in a private household with no commercial or professional purpose, yes.

    OK. But the end user need to know that this BBS is for personal or commercial interest. If nothing specified, it may be defined as commercial purpose, or defined as personal purpose. Kim provide 2 different licenses for BBBS. One thing one can do with that is inform the end user at prelog, an another thing is telling user the license type of BBBS (personal or commercial).

    Bjarte

    --- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-4
    * Origin: * BCG-Box, On The Air Since 11th February 1987! * (2:222/2)
  • From Bjarte Boe@2:222/2 to Rune Johansen on Thu Aug 2 10:05:22 2018
    Hi Rune,

    The GPDR regulations applies to organizations and individuals whom processing >> personal data, like name, email address, and so on in their own system. >>The only exceptions from the GPDR regulations are personal data processing of >> national security reasons or crime prevention.
    Article 2c, the regulation does not apply to the processing of personal data b
    a natural person in the course of a purely personal or household activity. Also, see recital 18, which states that if it has no connection to a
    professional or commercial activity, it is not in the scope of GDPR, including
    correspondences, holding of addresses, social networking and online activity undertaken within the context of these activities.

    Thank you for the complementary answer, it louds clear.

    Am I wrong that GPDR also apply to BBSes?
    If run by a private person or in a private household with no commercial or professional purpose, yes.

    OK. But the end user need to know that this BBS is for personal or commercial interest. If nothing specified, it may be defined as commercial purpose, or defined as personal purpose. Kim provide 2 different licenses for BBBS. One thing one can do with that is inform the end user at prelog, an another thing is telling user the license type of BBBS (personal or commercial).

    Bjarte

    --- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-4
    * Origin: * BCG-Box, On The Air Since 11th February 1987! * (2:222/2)
  • From Rune Johansen@2:222/2 to Bjarte Boe on Thu Aug 2 10:11:40 2018

    Am I wrong that GPDR also apply to BBSes?
    If run by a private person or in a private household with no commercial or >> professional purpose, yes.
    OK. But the end user need to know that this BBS is for personal or commercial interest. If nothing specified, it may be defined as commercial purpose, or defined as personal purpose. Kim provide 2 different licenses for BBBS. One thing one can do with that is inform the end user at prelog, an another thing is telling user the license type of BBBS (personal or commercial).

    The license of the software in use is not relevant. I can use a highly commercial licensed product for my personal household, if I decide to do so. If
    the BBS is run by an organisation/company, GDPR is applicable. Then that company/organisation will have to document the handling of PII. If they deem that the product they use is not capable of satisfying their requirements, then
    they could decide to drop it, or request modifications to it, to be able to comply with their requirements.

    The EU GDPR reguslation is just that, a regulation. A piece of software cannot be "GDPR compliant". It is what PII data you collect, why and how you process it, that is the focus in GDPR.

    Rune

    --- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-4
    * Origin: * BCG-Box, On The Air Since 11th February 1987! * (2:222/2)
  • From Kim Heino@2:222/2 to Bjarte Boe on Sat Aug 4 14:51:12 2018
    Any recent change in BBBS due to GPDR?

    As Rune (Hello Rune, it's been a while!) already answered to you, not needed.

    If you want to be on safe side, you can add your privacy policy to menus/prereg
    and menus/newuser.www files.

    --- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-4
    * Origin: * BCG-Box, On The Air Since 11th February 1987! * (2:222/2)
  • From Robert Wolfe@1:261/20 to Benny Pedersen on Tue Aug 28 21:42:38 2018
    The only exceptions from the GPDR regulations are personal data
    processing of national security reasons or crime prevention.

    do we have criminals on fidonet ?

    Am I wrong that GPDR also apply to BBSes?

    it possible BBBS needs cookie handling

    I would surmise that this would only need to be done on the HTML side of things, no?

    --- BBBS/2 v4.10 Toy-3
    * Origin: Omicron Theta/2 (1:261/20)