Does anyone have an opinion of the Emporer 280 vs the Magnum HOT system?
The filter that came with my 29g is getting tired and I think a new one, perhaps with a bio-wheel sounds good.
Thanks,

Dan
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"Dan Norgard" <dnorgard@interwrx.com> wrote in message news:vktcr8c029vn3f@corp.supernews.com...

Does anyone have an opinion of the Emporer 280 vs the Magnum HOT

system?

The filter that came with my 29g is getting tired and I think a new

one,

perhaps with a bio-wheel sounds good.
Thanks,

Dan

For a 29H tank, go with the Emperor 400. The 280s are good only when
the 400 will not fit, in my case on a 37H(the cross brace).
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Give us a little more info
Tanks size
Fish type
Fresh or saltwater etc

Marcus

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Co2 tanks on sale
Eheim 2026 $143
Co2 regulator and bubble counter with needle valve $75

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On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 19:00:13 -0700, "Dan Norgard"
<dnorgard@interwrx.com> wrote:

Does anyone have an opinion of the Emporer 280 vs the Magnum HOT system?
The filter that came with my 29g is getting tired and I think a new one, >perhaps with a bio-wheel sounds good.
Thanks,

Dan

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"AQUATIC-STORE.COM" <sales a@t aquatic-store.com> wrote in message news:1ravkvouqds155cbk69c4mi4sm2aclapif@4ax.com...

Give us a little more info
Tanks size
Fish type
Fresh or saltwater etc

Marcus

http://www.aquatic-store.com/

Co2 tanks on sale
Eheim 2026 $143
Co2 regulator and bubble counter with needle valve $75

WEBBOARD

http://aquatic.yupapa.com/phpbb/index.php

On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 19:00:13 -0700, "Dan Norgard"
<dnorgard@interwrx.com> wrote:

Does anyone have an opinion of the Emporer 280 vs the Magnum HOT system? >The filter that came with my 29g is getting tired and I think a new one, >perhaps with a bio-wheel sounds good.
Thanks,

Dan

I recently (three weeks ago) ran into the same situation. My 29g kit came
with an aquatech filter and it started to notably slow down. I ended up
getting the HOT and running it on the opposite side (on the back) from the aquatech (which is doing alright still). Im really happy witht the HOT the ability to customize your output flow is very nice (adjustible for vertical ((up and down at the same time) and horizontal), and with the mechanical filtration (with cage for carbon, filter floss etc) works extremely well,
the micron cartridge is okay though, get dirty fast, tough to clean (soak in bleach solution ((10%) then dry and rinse again), but works well to polish
the water every once in a while. Another bonus to the HOT in a 29g is that
you will be filtering your tank water around 8X an hour, very nice. Okay Ive said my piece, I dont have anything to offer regarding the other filter as I have no experience with them. Cheers, Brian Oh and if you do go with the HOT make sure to buy it on line around 60 bucks, all the LFS Ive seen offer it
at around 80$ on sale.






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29 gallon planted freshwater with 6 neons, 3 black skirt tetras, 4 rosy
tetras, 2 otos, one apple snail, 3 ghost shrimp and soon 2 dwarf flame gouramis. Right now it has the TopFin filter it came with.
Thanks to all!
Dan
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Give us a little more info
Tanks size
Fish type
Fresh or saltwater etc

Marcus

http://www.aquatic-store.com/

Co2 tanks on sale
Eheim 2026 $143
Co2 regulator and bubble counter with needle valve $75

WEBBOARD

http://aquatic.yupapa.com/phpbb/index.php







On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 19:00:13 -0700, "Dan Norgard"
<dnorgard@interwrx.com> wrote:

Does anyone have an opinion of the Emporer 280 vs the Magnum HOT system?
The filter that came with my 29g is getting tired and I think a new one, >perhaps with a bio-wheel sounds good.
Thanks,

Dan

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Hi

I've been 15 years in the hobby and what I can say is that today, most
filters on the market are very expensive, very complex for nothing and
not very efficient. The marketing hype around most new models is really getting out of hand.

I don't really recomment filters like the magnum. If you want to go for powerfiltration, get Eheim, trust me. The best filtration systems
remain the classic German-made Eheim cannisters (Fluvals are toys with by-passes), good old undergravels and yes, plain sponge filters (air or powerhead operated ones). Hang-on-the-tank Aquaclears and similar
filters with biowheels are IMHO a major waste of money as they have
by-passes and are poor biological filters. I don't know about the
emperor but if it is built like aquaclears and penguins, its the last
thing I would buy.

Remember that a tank that is properly taken care of doesn't need extreme filtration except for coldwater, messy species or very large tanks.

Cheers

Dan Norgard wrote:

Does anyone have an opinion of the Emporer 280 vs the Magnum HOT system?
The filter that came with my 29g is getting tired and I think a new one, perhaps with a bio-wheel sounds good.
Thanks,

Dan

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Opinions are useful, but an Eheim for a 29 gal tank isn't the best
answer. It depends much on what kind of fish and the bio load.

My 2cents

I've got a number of different filters I've accululated by buying used
tanks over the years, and I'm using all of them. The worst for me
is an undergravel filter - but for a planted display tank, and not heavily loaded with fish - it may be a good solution!

Box filters are fine for a smaller tank where you have a vibrator pump
and you don't want to add an expense of a power filter.

Old Whispers for 10-20 gal tanks are junk, clogging up too quick and
have too little water flow.

Hot Magnum and Magnum 350 are good and easy to clean, the Eheim
is a bear to clean and I don't see it moving more water than the
Magnums.

For a number of tanks used in a breeding setup (as I have), foam
filters will NOT suck up tiny fry or brine shrimp and are excellent
bacteria housing. Not good for detritus though.

My favorite power filter, and the only one I'd buy are the aquaclear 300.
Rated at 300 gph (& they do move water!) I've never had one clog up.
and you can slightly adjust the flow if used on a smaller tank.
(& they're currently on sale for $20 in the latest Drs Foster & Smith)

DO NOT discard your filter material when it gets dirty! Wash it out
and return it .. I have filter floss (fabric store - quilt batting!) that
is stillin use for over 5 years. Some older foam is breaking up and
a friend says his big CA cichlids chew them to pieces! ..

Bob

I've been 15 years in the hobby and what I can say is that today, most >filters on the market are very expensive, very complex for nothing and
not very efficient. The marketing hype around most new models is really >getting out of hand.

I don't really recomment filters like the magnum. If you want to go for >powerfiltration, get Eheim, trust me. The best filtration systems
remain the classic German-made Eheim cannisters (Fluvals are toys with >by-passes), good old undergravels and yes, plain sponge filters (air or >powerhead operated ones). Hang-on-the-tank Aquaclears and similar
filters with biowheels are IMHO a major waste of money as they have >by-passes and are poor biological filters. I don't know about the
emperor but if it is built like aquaclears and penguins, its the last
thing I would buy.

Remember that a tank that is properly taken care of doesn't need extreme >filtration except for coldwater, messy species or very large tanks.

Cheers

Dan Norgard wrote:

Does anyone have an opinion of the Emporer 280 vs the Magnum HOT system?
The filter that came with my 29g is getting tired and I think a new one,
perhaps with a bio-wheel sounds good.
Thanks,

Dan

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"Tin-Tin" <martboy@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:Jw85b.7703$Kj.621582@news20.bellglobal.com...

Hi

I've been 15 years in the hobby and what I can say is that today, most filters on the market are very expensive, very complex for nothing and
not very efficient. The marketing hype around most new models is

really

getting out of hand.

I don't really recomment filters like the magnum. If you want to go

for

powerfiltration, get Eheim, trust me. The best filtration systems
remain the classic German-made Eheim cannisters (Fluvals are toys with by-passes), good old undergravels and yes, plain sponge filters (air

or

powerhead operated ones). Hang-on-the-tank Aquaclears and similar
filters with biowheels are IMHO a major waste of money as they have
by-passes and are poor biological filters. I don't know about the
emperor but if it is built like aquaclears and penguins, its the last
thing I would buy.

Remember that a tank that is properly taken care of doesn't need

extreme

filtration except for coldwater, messy species or very large tanks.

Cheers

Your comments are fairly consistent with all the others I have seen from
folks whom use Eheim filters. I see no point in disputing your facts or opinion. If I were to decide to buy another canister filter I would
certainly be looking for a used Eheim. I consider them the Harley
Davidson of aquarium filters. They only become more valuable with age
and have a huge following. Their design stays true to their roots.
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In article <y_b5b.17119$EW1.1571@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net>, racf_123@hotmail.com says...

Your comments are fairly consistent with all the others I have seen from folks whom use Eheim filters. I see no point in disputing your facts or opinion. If I were to decide to buy another canister filter I would certainly be looking for a used Eheim.

How about the Eheim submersible filters for a small aquarium? I've just acquired a 20 gallon in which I plan to put a couple of goldfish
(shubunkins).

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In article <y_b5b.17119$EW1.1571@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net>, racf_123@hotmail.com says...

Your comments are fairly consistent with all the others I have seen

from

folks whom use Eheim filters. I see no point in disputing your

facts or

opinion. If I were to decide to buy another canister filter I would certainly be looking for a used Eheim.

How about the Eheim submersible filters for a small aquarium? I've

just

acquired a 20 gallon in which I plan to put a couple of goldfish (shubunkins).

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I am afraid that I have become hopelessly obsessed with using Emperor
bio-wheel filters. I have used a 400 model on a 20 gallon long and it
worked really well.
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