Tony,

I have D-STAR and DMR. No DMR infrastructure out here, until I put a MMDVM o V>the air later this year, I've only experienced DMR on simplex. I find DMR V>sounds a little better than D-STAR, but both are perfectly fine for me. Oh, V>and my DMR radios cost me nothing, I won them as part of a promotion over a V>year ago. They're nice FM rigs too. :)

Due to antenna prohibitions where I live, I just operate D-Star (DV Dongle), D-Rats, Echolink (single user setup), Packet Via Telnet (am still working to get WinLink set up with the Outpost Packet program), and CQ100. But, it gets me
on the air nightly, and gives me something to do...since I can't go out at night, due to parking issues at the apartment complex where I live.

Surprisingly, even on these VoIP modes, at times, it's hard to find sometone to handle the job of Net Control. Everyone wants the glory, but no one wants to
do the work. I am Primary or Backup Net Control for 4 D-Star and 2 Echolink Nets each week, and check into about 20 others. With the D-Star Nets, I usually
pass weather traffic for the region/area of the net. I have been affectionately
dubbed "The Jim Cantore Of D-Star". But, unlike Jim Cantore, Storm Tracker at The Weather Channel...

1) I am not a meteorologist, but an amateur weather enthusiast. However, I know
enough to be dangerous.

2) I have a full head of hair (Cantore is a cueball)

3) I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night (hi hi).

With the weather traffic, I want to alert folks of potentially hazardous weather...no matter if it's going to occur in the next 24 hours, or within the next week. Our tornado season starts on March 1, and I'm not looking forward to
that. Some parts of the southeast U.S. have already seen tornadoes this year.

The Memphis D-Star Group (Tennessee) and I believe the Philadelphia Amateur Radio Association (Pennsylvania) provides support for D-Star, D-Rats, System Fusion, DMR, and Mototurbo. It's another means of communication for ham radio operators. I plan to go to the Huntsville, Alabama Hamfest in August, mainly for the D-Star Forum, and to meet several D-Star Users.

Also, I talked to an elderly blind ham on CQ100 last week, VE4OO. He has been
a ham for over 70 years, and I'm not sure if he has been blind all his life or not. But, since he's in an antenna restricted setup, as I am; he wanted to know
more about things like Packet Via Telnet, Echolink, D-Star (DV Dongle), and D-Rats. So, I gave him my email, and hope to hear from him soon. When I was telling him about, he was thrilled.

This also reminds me of the story where a ham radio operator took his laptop computer, with a desktop mic and speakers, and a wi-fi card, to a hospital in the Omaha, Nebraska area. Since he could not have RF gear, due to all the medical equipment, he was able to use a laptop. Using Echolink (in single user setup mode, so no RF occurred), he set up QSO's between hams in the U.S. and in
the U.K., with the patients as "third party traffic"...to take the patients on "The Echolink Magic Carpet Ride", which helped to take the loneliness out of their days.

I did a similar deal at a central Arkansas area high school, for their ham radio club meeting. The kids were impressed, and I told them that "this way, you don't have to worry about the cost of rigs, power supplies, SWR meters, antennas, coaxial cable, towers, etc.".

On the blind hams, there are several in the central Arkansas area. But, the thing that really amazes me is that they can program what I consider "a complicated HT" in a matter of minutes. It used to be that you could program a rig by just the manual...but nowadays, without the programming software and cable, you'll never get the rig set up right. But, on more than one occasion, I've seen a sighted ham get with one of the blind hams, telling him that he had
a problem with such and such rig. The blind ham said "Let me see that"...he takes the HT, works his fingers around the keyboard for a few minutes, and says
"OK, Done"...and I'm going "WTH??!! There ain't no way he could have that fixed!!".

Several years ago, before I had successful cataract surgery, I was

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Hi Daryl!

14 Feb 2016 15:39, from Daryl Stout -> Vk3jed:

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If you already sent out the second part of your message, then it did not make it here.

FYI

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Bob,

If you'd like to have a qso, you usually can find me (and numerous

others) o

XRF005B. I live in Central time zone (GMT-6), if that helps. I've

chatted

with
VK3TUB and a couple others from your area during the day. I believe we

are

about 19 hours apart. :)

I have had trouble getting the WinDV program to work on my setups with
a DV Dongle (first with Windows XP and Windows 7, both 32-bit). The DV
Tools program by Robin Cutcliffe, AA4RC, only works with regular
reflectors and repeaters, but NOT with the XRF systems.

I have a list of selected D-Star Nets that I started, since many nets
at dstarinfo.com have out of date information. However, I wanted to
verify the nets first before I added them to the listing. Yet, I have no idea why I can't get that program to work, and yet, I read that "it should"...without me having to uninstall DV Tools.

Any idea what I might be doing wrong??

Sorry, I've never used that program, or a DV dongle other than the DV4Mini, so I really don't think I can offer advice. I could supply you with a list of the
various XRF reflectors and their ip addresses, if that might help you link to them.







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Bob Seaborn wrote to Daryl Stout <=-

I have a list of selected D-Star Nets that I started, since many nets
at dstarinfo.com have out of date information. However, I wanted to
verify the nets first before I added them to the listing. Yet, I have no idea why I can't get that program to work, and yet, I read that "it should"...without me having to uninstall DV Tools.

Any idea what I might be doing wrong??

Sorry, I've never used that program, or a DV dongle other than the DV4Mini, so I really don't think I can offer advice. I could supply
you with a list of the various XRF reflectors and their ip addresses,
if that might help you link to them.

I have a DV Dongle, but I use G4KLX software with a DummyRepeater to use the dongle. I can connect to REF, XRF and DCS reflectors with this setup. My setup is actually a full blown repeater minus the RF part (that's on the todo list). The main part of the system runs on a Raspbnerry Pi (actually the same one as my BBS!), using the Maryland D-STAR image. The dummy repeater runs on a Windows desktop on the lan and forms module A of the system. This setup works quite well.
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Richard,

If you already sent out the second part of your message, then it did not mak RM>it here.

I'll have to change the QWK Mail deal settings on the system, then. But, some
BBS software only allows a max of a certain number of lines, before it splits them up.

Daryl

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Bob,

Sorry, I've never used that program, or a DV dongle other than the DV4Mini, BS>I really don't think I can offer advice. I could supply you with a list of BS>the
various XRF reflectors and their ip addresses, if that might help you link t BS>them.

No need...DV Tool 2.x by Robin Cutcliffe, AA4RC, will NOT work with the XRF reflectors.

I'll just have to stick with it right now...got too many other bills to afford a different dongle, such as the one from moencomm.com

Daryl, WX1DER

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Daryl Stout wrote to Bob Seaborn <=-

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Bob,

Sorry, I've never used that program, or a DV dongle other than the DV4Mini,
I really don't think I can offer advice. I could supply you with a list of
the
various XRF reflectors and their ip addresses, if that might help you link

them.

No need...DV Tool 2.x by Robin Cutcliffe, AA4RC, will NOT work with
the XRF reflectors.

You can use other software with the DV Dongle, such as the G4KLX software. I can link to REF, XRF and DCS using my DV Dongle. :)
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Tony,

You can use other software with the DV Dongle, such as the G4KLX software. TL>can link to REF, XRF and DCS using my DV Dongle. :)

Interesting. I found the website, and will download the software between D-Star Nets this evening. I also got RMS Express working for Winlink 2000, and Outpost for Packet...not to mention stuff on my own BBS. While it's weather and
ham radio related, no RF enters or leaves the BBS, due to antenna prohibitions.
However, thunderstorms in the forecast the next few days may mean more downtime, especially with our tornado season starting soon.

Daryl, WX1DER

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Daryl Stout wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

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Tony,

You can use other software with the DV Dongle, such as the G4KLX software.
can link to REF, XRF and DCS using my DV Dongle. :)

Interesting. I found the website, and will download the software
between D-Star Nets this evening. I also got RMS Express working for Winlink 2000, and Outpost for Packet...not to mention stuff on my own
BBS. While it's weather and ham radio related, no RF enters or leaves
the BBS, due to antenna prohibitions. However, thunderstorms in the forecast the next few days may mean more downtime, especially with our tornado season starting soon.

Cool, I've had RMS Express working too, nice piece of software.
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For alternative windows apps, WinDV now supports DVDongles (as well as many other DV* devices).

73,
Bill

Tony Langdon wrote to Daryl Stout <=-

Daryl Stout wrote to Bob Seaborn <=-

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Bob,

Sorry, I've never used that program, or a DV dongle other than the DV4Mini,
I really don't think I can offer advice. I could supply you with a list of
the
various XRF reflectors and their ip addresses, if that might help you link

them.

No need...DV Tool 2.x by Robin Cutcliffe, AA4RC, will NOT work with
the XRF reflectors.

You can use other software with the DV Dongle, such as the G4KLX
software. I can link to REF, XRF and DCS using my DV Dongle. :)
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For alternative windows apps, WinDV now supports DVDongles (as well as many other DV* devices).

I haven't kept up with WinDV, I've been following the gateway software more closely. Good to know. :)
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The Mast on my 2 Meter Beam bent over during a storm and my homeowners insurance paid a company to replace the Mast.
They used Water Pipe as a Mast instead of the Radio Shack antenna tubing I had used.

I never thought to ask her to file a claim on it. I was over there lr
Dinner, we had company did not get to talk about her radio equipment. I
went downstairs and looked the basement. The room was covered in about
two inches of dust. No one has really been in there in years. I still
have my old 286 in there and fired it up. Surprisingly an old
incarnation of the LiveWire was on it... the old TBBS one.there was some
way that I could extract the information. I could log on and read
messages from 1988 to 1994.

I was on 2 Meters from November 1976 to around 2010.
Earlier, when I was a Novice in 1958, Al Hall K4CSH came down on 3720

Kc/s

and talked to a few of us around Louisville to restart the Kentucky

Novice

Net, and later when I was a General I was on the Kentucky C.W. Net

(KYN)

on 3600 Kc/s.

What radio communication skills I have was with the Civil Air Patrol I
have a VHF radio that can communicate with the CAP's frequency. They
still use it... I can hear them on my scanner occasionally.

I also used a Heathkit Sixer but quit using it when a neighbor said I

was

heard on their T.V. Set.
I didn't want to mess up the T.V. shows they watched, so I quit using

it.

A lot of her equipment is German... I noticed names like Grundig and
Blaupunkt (Spelling not correct I am sure) I know from my performing
arts she has a good microphone it's a Sennheiser (spelling not my best
again).

When my neighbor watched a show on WAVE TV Channel 3 (60-66 mc/s) my Sixer on 50 mc/s came through Loud And Clear, something a TV Antenna Filter couldn't fix.

The Channel 3 on VHF never was a good channel... everything seemed to interfere... even on cable it had so much interferance that TKR (when it
was TKR Cable) moved it to channel 6 just before intermedia bought them
out. (GOD I miss those guys the old local cable company much better
than the big conglomerates).

Typing that reminded me of the Ham Shack at duPont Manual High School had
to stop making QSO's on 15 Meters and changed the Coils in their Transmitter from 15 Meters to the 20 Meter Coils because a near by home used an older Television Set with an I.F. frequency of 21 mc/s and every time the Ham Shack transmitted on 15 Meters the people would call the School and
complain that they couldn't watch T.V. when the Students were on the air.

Even though I went to YPAS for a while, my academic classes were at
Dupont... they did not like the YPAS kids at all. Now they have made
magnets for performing arts spread through the county. Valley has an
acting magnet... PRP now has the choir magnet (Doss lost it) both and
PRP got multi-million dollar auditoriums. Valley High school got a
nice keyboard/piano lab too and a recording studio.

I think the amatuer radio stuff is now at Fairdale with their Emergency Services magnet. They also haveradio classes at Shawnee where my cousin
went for the Aviation Magnet.

73 de Ed W9ODR, ex KN4ZIQ, K4ZIQ and WA9WSB . .

I guess mine would be 2XLT :-)

When I saw 2XLT I picked up a book printed in 1964 that has a A.R.R.L. Countries List.

No that's Double Extra Large Tall :-) Being 6'3 used to be bean pole
skinny. The Skinny ship has sailed.

The first Amateur Radio Prefix that started with a number in that list
is Morroco - 3A .
I don't have a current country list of prefixes to know what Country has Call Signs that started with 2X , but I never tried to earn a DXCC Certificate, so I'm just familiar with U.S. Prefixes W, K, N and A might also be a Amateur Radio Prefix.

I also know VE Stations are in Canada and VK'ers are in Australia and Stations in Great Britin have a G Prefix.

I don't know it all, but still working on that.

Before I started to write this message I saw in another post that You said Your Mom's Dad also operated a Ham Radio Station.

What was His Last Name?

McDonald....

I bet I probably knowed of Him.

Probably... My grandpa's name was Everett Clayton McDonald Sr.

Have an Uncle who was also a Ham in Knoxville... He was Everett Clayton
Jr. went by his middle name. His sons also were hams Ronnie and Donnie Mcdonald... (Ronnie's last name is Ronald but don't make fun of him he's
a TN State Police Trooper people used to do a doubletake when they got a ticktetonald McDonald).

Other Uncle definately big in the Radio stuff is Robert McDonald he was
the comandant of training for the Tennessee State Police, a US marshall
and he's out of Nashville, TN. He is also the mormon Bishop for the
area and talks by radio to the Churca lot... and does emergency
communcations for the LDS Church.

Other Uncle is also a ham but not active much Miller "Buddy" McDonald
out of Huntsville, TN you may also find some sharps that were hams down
there Elwood Sharp married Rose Mary McDonald (mom's sister)

Seems like ham Radio was very popular in the East tennessee Mountains.

If you talked with any of them would love to know.

Allen

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I was 16 in June 1958 when I got my Novice License in the mail.
IIRC, the Citizens Band Radio Service began in September 1958.

If I had wanted to be a CB'er, I would had had to wait two years to apply
for a CB License since I wasn't 18 years old.

I never submitted a form to the F.C.C. to operate a CB set, because I
have continued taking Tests to upgrade to a higher Amateur Radio Class,
and have keep remembering to Renew my License on time.

Because my brain could not comprehend CW I pplies for a CB licence.
My CB cal sign was KNA 5683

I'll have to renew again in October 2017.

My General License expires in May of 2022
I had intended to go for the Extra License but the rapid decline of the old Brain Power stopped me from doing so.

73 de Ed W9ODR, ex KN4ZIQ, K4ZIQ and WA9WSB . .

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08-04-16 15:36 Allen Prunty wrote to Ed Vance about Re: XRF PROBLEMS
Howdy! Allen,

@MSGID: <57A3BD3C.1131.amtradio@capcity2.synchro.net>
Re: Re: XRF PROBLEMS
By: Ed Vance to Allen Prunty on Sun Jul 31 2016 11:00 pm

-snip-

What is Your Mom's First Name?, I may have heard Her on 2 Meters.

Her First Name was Anna

Thanks, I can't remember speaking to any one named Anna on the air.

Last names of course were Prunty (Dad exited the scene when I was 6)
then my first Stepdad's last name was Lents and we lost him during the first Iraq war... then the last stepdad was Helmick and we lost him in 2006, heart attack.

With my illnesses, mom does not have time much to enjoy anything. She still is on the CB every now and then and uses the handle Dixie Doodle.

I was 16 in June 1958 when I got my Novice License in the mail.
IIRC, the Citizens Band Radio Service began in September 1958.

If I had wanted to be a CB'er, I would had had to wait two years to apply
for a CB License since I wasn't 18 years old.

I never submitted a form to the F.C.C. to operate a CB set, because I
have continued taking Tests to upgrade to a higher Amateur Radio Class,
and have keep remembering to Renew my License on time.

I'll have to renew again in October 2017.

Unfortunately her big antenna was ruined in the storm that was the remnants of Hurricane Ike when it blew through here. Since I became disabled I can't put it back up for her and she's 70... not able to do
it herself.

The Mast on my 2 Meter Beam bent over during a storm and my homeowners insurance paid a company to replace the Mast.
They used Water Pipe as a Mast instead of the Radio Shack antenna tubing I
had used.

I was on 2 Meters from November 1976 to around 2010.
Earlier, when I was a Novice in 1958, Al Hall K4CSH came down on 3720 Kc/s and talked to a few of us around Louisville to restart the Kentucky Novice Net, and later when I was a General I was on the Kentucky C.W. Net (KYN) on 3600 Kc/s.

I will have to talk with her about it during next week's iv treatment.

I also used a Heathkit Sixer but quit using it when a neighbor said I was heard on their T.V. Set.
I didn't want to mess up the T.V. shows they watched, so I quit using it.

Mom would have went over there and fixed their antenna :-) back in the
day she was able to do things like that and getting on a roof didn't bother her. We were the wierd family in the neighborhood when we had
roof damage we put a new roof on our house ourselves. We did Dave
Ramsey before Dave Ramsey did Dave Ramsey's money program.

When my neighbor watched a show on WAVE TV Channel 3 (60-66 mc/s) my Sixer
on 50 mc/s came through Loud And Clear, something a TV Antenna Filter
couldn't fix.

Typing that reminded me of the Ham Shack at duPont Manual High School had
to stop making QSO's on 15 Meters and changed the Coils in their Transmitter from 15 Meters to the 20 Meter Coils because a near by home used an older Television Set with an I.F. frequency of 21 mc/s and every time the Ham
Shack transmitted on 15 Meters the people would call the School and
complain that they couldn't watch T.V. when the Students were on the air.

73 de Ed W9ODR, ex KN4ZIQ, K4ZIQ and WA9WSB . .

I guess mine would be 2XLT :-)

When I saw 2XLT I picked up a book printed in 1964 that has a A.R.R.L. Countries List.

The first Amateur Radio Prefix that started with a number in that list
is Morroco - 3A .
I don't have a current country list of prefixes to know what Country has
Call Signs that started with 2X , but I never tried to earn a DXCC
Certificate, so I'm just familiar with U.S. Prefixes W, K, N and A might
also be a Amateur Radio Prefix.

I also know VE Stations are in Canada and VK'ers are in Australia and
Stations in Great Britin have a G Prefix.

I don't know it all, but still working on that.

Before I started to write this message I saw in another post that You said
Your Mom's Dad also operated a Ham Radio Station.

What was His Last Name?
I bet I probably knowed of Him.

Thanks, 73 . .


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Bob,

Sorry, I've never used that program, or a DV dongle other than the

DV4Mini,

I really don't think I can offer advice. I could supply you with a list

of

the
various XRF reflectors and their ip addresses, if that might help you

link t

them.

No need...DV Tool 2.x by Robin Cutcliffe, AA4RC, will NOT work with
the XRF reflectors.

I'll just have to stick with it right now...got too many other bills
to afford a different dongle, such as the one from moencomm.com

Daryl, WX1DER

I just picked up a dvmega at Dayton, should be operatonal shortly. Cost a whopping $120. It supports all reflectors, and now with an experimenta load, C4FM and DMR I'm told.





.....Bob, VE5XEF


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Hi Bob!

09 Jul 2016 00:08, from Bob Seaborn -> Daryl Stout:

I just picked up a dvmega at Dayton, should be operatonal shortly.
Cost a whopping $120. It supports all reflectors, and now with an experimenta load, C4FM and DMR I'm told.

I am interested in your experience with it.

Also a comparison to the DV4Mini.

CU, Ricsi

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Hi Bob!

09 Jul 2016 00:08, from Bob Seaborn -> Daryl Stout:

I just picked up a dvmega at Dayton, should be operatonal shortly.
Cost a whopping $120. It supports all reflectors, and now with an
experimenta load, C4FM and DMR I'm told.

I am interested in your experience with it.

Considering that I haven't finished putting it together yet, sorry can't say anything at this time.

Also a comparison to the DV4Mini.

Well, that I should be able to do sometime soon, as I've had my DV4Mini since last October. :)





.....Bob, VE5XEF


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Hi Bob!

09 Jul 2016 13:09, from Bob Seaborn -> Richard Menedetter:

I just picked up a dvmega at Dayton, should be operatonal shortly.
Cost a whopping $120. It supports all reflectors, and now with an
experimenta load, C4FM and DMR I'm told.

I am interested in your experience with it.

Considering that I haven't finished putting it together yet, sorry
can't say anything at this time.

I will wait patiently ;))

Also a comparison to the DV4Mini.

Well, that I should be able to do sometime soon, as I've had my
DV4Mini since last October. :)

I am thinking of getting one ...
There is now an addon that addes an AMBE chip, so you do not need necessarily a
HT with an AMBE chip to use it.

Did not have so much time to look into this deeper.

CU, Ricsi

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Bob,

I just picked up a dvmega at Dayton, should be operatonal shortly.
Cost a whopping $120. It supports all reflectors, and now with an experimenta load, C4FM and DMR I'm told.

I saw a similar item at moencomm.com -- the thing is, I can't have
RF gear, due to antenna prohibitions. So, if these require a D-Star
Radio, I'm out of luck.

Daryl, WX1DER


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Hi Bob!

09 Jul 2016 13:09, from Bob Seaborn -> Richard Menedetter:

I just picked up a dvmega at Dayton, should be operatonal shortly.
Cost a whopping $120. It supports all reflectors, and now with an
experimenta load, C4FM and DMR I'm told.

I am interested in your experience with it.

Considering that I haven't finished putting it together yet, sorry
can't say anything at this time.

I will wait patiently ;))

Also a comparison to the DV4Mini.

Well, that I should be able to do sometime soon, as I've had my
DV4Mini since last October. :)

I am thinking of getting one ...
There is now an addon that addes an AMBE chip, so you do not need necessarily a HT with an AMBE chip to use it.

Did not have so much time to look into this deeper.

I have not heard/read anything about this (yet)





.....Bob, VE5XEF


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Bob,

I just picked up a dvmega at Dayton, should be operatonal shortly.
Cost a whopping $120. It supports all reflectors, and now with an
experimenta load, C4FM and DMR I'm told.

I saw a similar item at moencomm.com -- the thing is, I can't have
RF gear, due to antenna prohibitions. So, if these require a D-Star
Radio, I'm out of luck.

Well, I cannot see/understand how anyone could prohibit a 6 3/4 inch antenna connected to my DV4Mini, sitting on the desk in my shack, and the use of a HT (Icom ID-31), also inside my house.





.....Bob, VE5XEF


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Hi Bob!

10 Jul 2016 11:05, from Bob Seaborn -> Richard Menedetter:

There is now an addon that addes an AMBE chip, so you do not need
necessarily a HT with an AMBE chip to use it.
Did not have so much time to look into this deeper.

I have not heard/read anything about this (yet)

See for example here
http://www.va2pv.com/dv4mini-ambe

CU, Ricsi

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Bob Seaborn wrote to Daryl Stout <=-

Well, I cannot see/understand how anyone could prohibit a 6 3/4 inch antenna connected to my DV4Mini, sitting on the desk in my shack, and
the use of a HT (Icom ID-31), also inside my house.

Not unless they prohibit wifi as well. :)


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Bob Seaborn wrote to Daryl Stout <=-

Well, I cannot see/understand how anyone could prohibit a 6 3/4 inch
antenna connected to my DV4Mini, sitting on the desk in my shack, and
the use of a HT (Icom ID-31), also inside my house.

Not unless they prohibit wifi as well. :)

Does not federal rule/regulations/laws supercede local ones? :)






.....Bob


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Bob Seaborn wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

Does not federal rule/regulations/laws supercede local ones? :)

Better ask someone from the relevant country. :)
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Re: Re: XRF PROBLEMS
By: Tony Langdon to Bob Seaborn on Mon Jul 11 2016 16:47:00

Does not federal rule/regulations/laws supercede local ones? :)

Better ask someone from the relevant country. :)

I think it likely has more to do with Condo rules, or similar.
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Re: Re: XRF PROBLEMS
By: Tony Langdon to Bob Seaborn on Mon Jul 11 2016 16:47:00

Does not federal rule/regulations/laws supercede local ones? :)

Better ask someone from the relevant country. :)

I think it likely has more to do with Condo rules, or similar.

Either way, I can't answer the question posed here. :)


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Bob Seaborn wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

Does not federal rule/regulations/laws supercede local ones? :)

Better ask someone from the relevant country. :)
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I know it does here in Canada, but fighting the good fight can take major bux.







.....Bob, VE5XEF


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Bob Seaborn wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

I know it does here in Canada, but fighting the good fight can take
major bux.

Same in Australia, but I don't know of any federal regulations pertaining to ham antennas here.


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Bob Seaborn wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

I know it does here in Canada, but fighting the good fight can take
major bux.

Same in Australia, but I don't know of any federal regulations
pertaining to
ham antennas here.

In Canada, federal law says that any antenna structure can be up to 15 metres (about 45 feet) high without going through any approval process. Anything higher may require a fair bit of hoop-jumping. This supercedes any local, municipal, or provincial requirements (however may not supercede a requirement for a building permit). I'm sure it also supercedes any private property requirements, unless a contract is signed concerning it. But even then an ancient (middle 1800's) British law states that a contract cannot supercede any
federal or provincial law. I have personally seen this upheld in a local court, but not over an antenna structure.




.....Bob, VE5XEF


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Bob Seaborn wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

In Canada, federal law says that any antenna structure can be up to 15 metres (about 45 feet) high without going through any approval process.
Anything higher may require a fair bit of hoop-jumping. This
supercedes any local, municipal, or provincial requirements (however
may not supercede a requirement for a building permit). I'm sure it
also supercedes any private property requirements, unless a contract is signed concerning it. But even then an ancient (middle 1800's) British law states that a contract cannot supercede any federal or provincial
law. I have personally seen this upheld in a local court, but not over
an antenna structure.

Ahh, OK. :) Interesting. :)


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Bob,

I saw a similar item at moencomm.com -- the thing is, I can't have
RF gear, due to antenna prohibitions. So, if these require a D-Star
Radio, I'm out of luck.

Well, I cannot see/understand how anyone could prohibit a 6 3/4 inch antenna connected to my DV4Mini, sitting on the desk in my shack, and
the use of a HT (Icom ID-31), also inside my house.

They are VERY PICKY with inspections (I live at H.U.D. subsidized
housing for the disabled...I've been fully disabled for 12 years). They
do NOT allow things like antennas (indoor or outdoor), cable across the
floor (tripping hazard), and because RFI might interfere with medical
devices of the residents (considering the law of entropy, or that the
users didn't have them set up right)...never mind that folks would file
a lawsuit at the drop of a hat.

Plus, I was always interfered with when on the air, and with the analog repeaters, you had no idea who was causing the interference. The idiots
who were doing it were too cowardly to admit who they were, or why they
had a grudge with me. So, I operate "internet radio" (much to the angst
of the ham radio purists), but operate OUTSIDE of Arkansas, where I feel
more welcome.

Inspections are done on a regular basis to make sure the resident isn't living in squalor (never mind the apartment being overrun with "clutter"), with things clean and orderly (sinks, toilets, showers, floors, etc.). At times, I wonder if it's a hospital or a military deal, where the floor
should be so clean that you can eat off of it, or the bed should be made
up so tight that you can bounce a quarter off of it. Should one fail an inspection, they can be given a 30 day notice to leave the property
(eviction). I believe they have to give residents a minimum of 24 hours
notice, but it wouldn't surprise me if they implemented "surprise
inspections".

They will NOT do things like "random drug testing" because "it's an
invasion of privacy"...although during one recent inspection, they did
open up my medicine cabinet in the bathroom to see what was in there (the
same was done when requiring home health care nurses after minor surgery
last year). However, because all of the medicines had been legally
prescribed, they couldn't touch me in that regard. To me, if you're not
doing illegal drugs, why are you worried??

They won't make it a "gated community" to keep the non-residents, some
who may be dealing in illicit drugs, out...because the gates would be a hinderance to the local transit system (which leaves a lot to be desired
around central Arkansas), as well as to police, fire, and ambulatory
personnel. Several years ago, one of the residents grandsons had a meth
lab set up in the storage shed.

The management has a complete list of all my medical conditions,
surgeries, prescriptions, doctors, etc. I *WANT* them to know what
is going on with my health, so they know I'm not doing illegal drugs.
I doubt they'd ever implement a policy to get a warrant and do a "strip
search" to check for "track marks" (i.e. from those doing injections of
heroin, etc.)...but I'd comply with it, since I'm not doing illegal drugs,
nor have the desire to do so. They are free to contact my physicians for
blood work reports, etc. So many out here would probably get "a friend"
to substitute for them in providing a bodily fluid sample for analysis.

One time, they were going to come in, while I was prepping for a needed colonoscopy. I told them that "you'll find me naked"...because you have
to be, once taking the purgatives, as you'll spend the next several hours
on the toilet. Their reply "it's a normal bodily function". While they
have found polyps 3 times, they've never found colon cancer.

While it seems there are more negatives than positives living here, the apartments are handicapped accessible, which has become a necessity for
me over the years. I use a cane wherever I go, with a walker on standby
for the really bad days. I may eventually wind up in a wheelchair. And,
being able to manage my health is necessary, because without my health,
the hobbies go by the boards.

I have to have fellow Volunteer Examiners help me with the testing
supplies at the sessions now...mainly moving the heavy cases. I print
my exams with the ARRL/VEC Exam Maker Software, which guarantees that
every exam is DIFFERENT. No point in trying to cheat, when the exam of
ones neighbor is going to be completely different, in both questions
and answers.

Daryl, WX1DER

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Bob,

I saw a similar item at moencomm.com -- the thing is, I can't have
RF gear, due to antenna prohibitions. So, if these require a D-Star
Radio, I'm out of luck.

Well, I cannot see/understand how anyone could prohibit a 6 3/4 inch
antenna connected to my DV4Mini, sitting on the desk in my shack, and
the use of a HT (Icom ID-31), also inside my house.

They are VERY PICKY with inspections (I live at H.U.D. subsidized
housing for the disabled...I've been fully disabled for 12 years). They
do NOT allow things like antennas (indoor or outdoor), cable across the floor (tripping hazard), and because RFI might interfere with medical devices of the residents (considering the law of entropy, or that the
users didn't have them set up right)...never mind that folks would file
a lawsuit at the drop of a hat.

Plus, I was always interfered with when on the air, and with the
analog
repeaters, you had no idea who was causing the interference. The idiots
who were doing it were too cowardly to admit who they were, or why they
had a grudge with me. So, I operate "internet radio" (much to the angst
of the ham radio purists), but operate OUTSIDE of Arkansas, where I
feelmore welcome.

Inspections are done on a regular basis to make sure the resident
isn't
living in squalor (never mind the apartment being overrun with
"clutter"),
with things clean and orderly (sinks, toilets, showers, floors, etc.).
At
times, I wonder if it's a hospital or a military deal, where the floor should be so clean that you can eat off of it, or the bed should be
madeup so tight that you can bounce a quarter off of it. Should one fail
an
inspection, they can be given a 30 day notice to leave the property (eviction). I believe they have to give residents a minimum of 24 hours notice, but it wouldn't surprise me if they implemented "surprise inspections".

They will NOT do things like "random drug testing" because "it's an invasion of privacy"...although during one recent inspection, they did
open up my medicine cabinet in the bathroom to see what was in there
(the
same was done when requiring home health care nurses after minor
surgerylast year). However, because all of the medicines had been
legally
prescribed, they couldn't touch me in that regard. To me, if you're not doing illegal drugs, why are you worried??

They won't make it a "gated community" to keep the non-residents,
somewho may be dealing in illicit drugs, out...because the gates would
be a
hinderance to the local transit system (which leaves a lot to be desiredaround central Arkansas), as well as to police, fire, and
ambulatory
personnel. Several years ago, one of the residents grandsons had a meth
lab set up in the storage shed.

The management has a complete list of all my medical conditions, surgeries, prescriptions, doctors, etc. I *WANT* them to know what
is going on with my health, so they know I'm not doing illegal drugs.
I doubt they'd ever implement a policy to get a warrant and do a "strip search" to check for "track marks" (i.e. from those doing injections of heroin, etc.)...but I'd comply with it, since I'm not doing illegal
drugs,
nor have the desire to do so. They are free to contact my physicians forblood work reports, etc. So many out here would probably get "a
friend"
to substitute for them in providing a bodily fluid sample for analysis.

One time, they were going to come in, while I was prepping for a
needed
colonoscopy. I told them that "you'll find me naked"...because you have
to be, once taking the purgatives, as you'll spend the next several
hours
on the toilet. Their reply "it's a normal bodily function". While they
have found polyps 3 times, they've never found colon cancer.

While it seems there are more negatives than positives living here,
the
apartments are handicapped accessible, which has become a necessity for
me over the years. I use a cane wherever I go, with a walker on standby
for the really bad days. I may eventually wind up in a wheelchair. And, being able to manage my health is necessary, because without my health,
the hobbies go by the boards.

I have to have fellow Volunteer Examiners help me with the testing supplies at the sessions now...mainly moving the heavy cases. I print
my exams with the ARRL/VEC Exam Maker Software, which guarantees that
every exam is DIFFERENT. No point in trying to cheat, when the exam of
ones neighbor is going to be completely different, in both questions
and answers.

This totally sounds like a prison, me, I would NEVER consider living under those conditions. As far as RF interfering with medical equipment, there is nothing they (or anyone else) can do about vistor's vehicles using two-way radios, and I'm yet to see any form of emergency (or security) vehicle not have
a two-way radio of some kind, usually capable of transmitting with serious power..


I do know that my DV4Mini transmits with 1.2 milliwatts, and my Icom ID-31 transmits with less than one watt. That's considerably less than a typical wi-fi router radiates.





.....Bob, VE5XEF


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Bob Seaborn wrote to Daryl Stout <=-

This totally sounds like a prison, me, I would NEVER consider living
under those conditions. As far as RF interfering with medical
equipment, there is nothing they (or anyone else) can do about vistor's vehicles using two-way radios, and I'm yet to see any form of emergency (or security) vehicle not have a two-way radio of some kind, usually capable of transmitting with serious power..

That's one way of looking at it. In this part of the world, typical emergency service radios are 25W for mobiles and 5W for handhelds, no power control

I do know that my DV4Mini transmits with 1.2 milliwatts, and my Icom
ID-31 transmits with less than one watt. That's considerably less than
a typical wi-fi router radiates.

Wifi routers are typically around 30 mW.


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Bob Seaborn wrote to Daryl Stout <=-

This totally sounds like a prison, me, I would NEVER consider living
under those conditions. As far as RF interfering with medical
equipment, there is nothing they (or anyone else) can do about vistor's
vehicles using two-way radios, and I'm yet to see any form of emergency
(or security) vehicle not have a two-way radio of some kind, usually
capable of transmitting with serious power..

That's one way of looking at it. In this part of the world, typical emergency
service radios are 25W for mobiles and 5W for handhelds, no power
control

I do know that my DV4Mini transmits with 1.2 milliwatts, and my Icom
ID-31 transmits with less than one watt. That's considerably less than
a typical wi-fi router radiates.

Wifi routers are typically around 30 mW.

And public access points, very prevalent around here, can be up to one watt erp.

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Bob Seaborn wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

And public access points, very prevalent around here, can be up to one watt erp.

Though to be fair, they're not usually indoors.


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Bob,

This totally sounds like a prison, me, I would NEVER consider living
under those conditions. As far as RF interfering with medical
equipment, there is nothing they (or anyone else) can do about vistor's vehicles using two-way radios, and I'm yet to see any form of emergency (or security) vehicle not have a two-way radio of some kind, usually capable of transmitting with serious power..

While in some respects it may seem like it, some days, it's very
difficult for me to get around the apartment...let alone elsewhere. Some
days, it's very difficult to get in and out of my car.

Society is too litigious...they'll sue at the drop of a hat. If they
sued for public flatulence, everyone would be under the jail.

I do know that my DV4Mini transmits with 1.2 milliwatts, and my Icom
ID-31 transmits with less than one watt. That's considerably less than
a typical wi-fi router radiates.

Unfortunately, there is no D-Star Repeater in central Arkansas that is
on the Gateway. The one they have is available to folks with D-Star radios only. With all the trees around me, I can't even hit a wide area coverage analog repeater on Shinall Mountain, west of Little Rock.

Plus, with not even getting $1100 a month in disability, I can't afford
to get a D-Star HT, a DV4Mini, a Raspberry Pi, etc. I joke that "I don't
know much about a Raspberry Pi, but a pineapple upside down cheesecake
sounds awfully good". (hi hi)

Daryl, WX1DER

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Bob,

This totally sounds like a prison, me, I would NEVER consider living
under those conditions. As far as RF interfering with medical
equipment, there is nothing they (or anyone else) can do about vistor's
vehicles using two-way radios, and I'm yet to see any form of emergency
(or security) vehicle not have a two-way radio of some kind, usually
capable of transmitting with serious power..

While in some respects it may seem like it, some days, it's very
difficult for me to get around the apartment...let alone elsewhere. Somedays, it's very difficult to get in and out of my car.

For that and your medical conditions, you have my sympathies.

Society is too litigious...they'll sue at the drop of a hat. If they
sued for public flatulence, everyone would be under the jail.

I beg to differ. You forgot one word above, "American Society is too litigious". I am Canadian, living in Canada, and Canadians typically do not go
sue-crazy. :)

I do know that my DV4Mini transmits with 1.2 milliwatts, and my Icom
ID-31 transmits with less than one watt. That's considerably less than
a typical wi-fi router radiates.

Unfortunately, there is no D-Star Repeater in central Arkansas that
ison the Gateway. The one they have is available to folks with D-Star
radios
only. With all the trees around me, I can't even hit a wide area
coverage
analog repeater on Shinall Mountain, west of Little Rock.

Plus, with not even getting $1100 a month in disability, I can't
afford
to get a D-Star HT, a DV4Mini, a Raspberry Pi, etc. I joke that "I
don'tknow much about a Raspberry Pi, but a pineapple upside down
cheesecake
sounds awfully good". (hi hi)

Daryl, WX1DER

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Re: XRF PROBLEMS
By: Bob Seaborn to Daryl Stout on Thu Jul 14 2016 09:43 am

Bob...

CQ 2 U!

Glad seeing you are still around... hope you are well.

Allen
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Re: XRF PROBLEMS
By: Bob Seaborn to Daryl Stout on Thu Jul 14 2016 09:43 am

Bob...

CQ 2 U!

Glad seeing you are still around... hope you are well.

I have not been anywhere, just playing with fidonet, and my health is fine, thank you for asking.

Allen
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Whispernet
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07-30-16 04:18 Allen Prunty wrote to Bob Seaborn about XRF PROBLEMS
Howdy! Allen,

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Re: XRF PROBLEMS
By: Bob Seaborn to Daryl Stout on Thu Jul 14 2016 09:43 am

Bob...

CQ 2 U!

Allen...

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Ed...

Do You have a Amateur Radio License Allen?

73 de Ed W9ODR . .


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Re: Re: XRF PROBLEMS
By: Ed Vance to Allen Prunty on Sat Jul 30 2016 10:42 pm

Do You have a Amateur Radio License Allen?

My mother was the HAM in the family... back in the time we were in Europe she got a lot of attention because of her southern voice. I can't remember her callsign but she had a very distinct voice. She has a Yaesu set at home but does not use it much anymore.

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07-31-16 08:42 Allen Prunty wrote to Ed Vance about Re: XRF PROBLEMS

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Re: Re: XRF PROBLEMS
By: Ed Vance to Allen Prunty on Sat Jul 30 2016 10:42 pm

Do You have a Amateur Radio License Allen?

My mother was the HAM in the family... back in the time we were in
Europe she got a lot of attention because of her southern voice. I
can't remember her callsign but she had a very distinct voice. She has
a Yaesu set at home but does not use it much anymore.

O.K., Thanks.

I haven't been on the air for several years but can't remember a Ham YF
(YF = Wife) with that last name.

Before I moved to Indiana in 1967 I had been a Member of the Amateur Radio Transmitting Society Club (A.R.T.S. Club) and the Kentuckyiana Radio Club (K.R.C.) and the only Lady Hams I knew were Mrs. Pat Schafer K4QIO and
later on Mrs. Terry Rowe.

What is Your Mom's First Name?, I may have heard Her on 2 Meters.

I was on 2 Meters from November 1976 to around 2010.
Earlier, when I was a Novice in 1958, Al Hall K4CSH came down on 3720 Kc/s
and talked to a few of us around Louisville to restart the Kentucky Novice
Net, and later when I was a General I was on the Kentucky C.W. Net (KYN)
on 3600 Kc/s.

I also used a Heathkit Sixer but quit using it when a neighbor said I was
heard on their T.V. Set.
I didn't want to mess up the T.V. shows they watched, so I quit using it.

73 de Ed W9ODR, ex KN4ZIQ, K4ZIQ and WA9WSB . .


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Re: Re: XRF PROBLEMS
By: Ed Vance to Allen Prunty on Sun Jul 31 2016 11:00 pm

I haven't been on the air for several years but can't remember a Ham YF (YF = Wife) with that last name.

She never was just a wife... my stepdads never had any interest in the radio and Dad exited the scene when I was 6.

Before I moved to Indiana in 1967 I had been a Member of the Amateur Radio Transmitting Society Club (A.R.T.S. Club) and the Kentuckyiana Radio Club (K.R.C.) and the only Lady Hams I knew were Mrs. Pat Schafer K4QIO and later on Mrs. Terry Rowe.

Well she was very active for a time with React and CB Radio. But unfotunately not in this area as we moved frequently during her time in the miliary.

What is Your Mom's First Name?, I may have heard Her on 2 Meters.

Her First Name was Anna

Last names of course were Prunty (Dad exited the scene when I was 6) then my first Stepdad's last name was Lents and we lost him during the first Iraq war... then the last stepdad was Helmick and we lost him in 2006, heart attack.

With my illnesses, mom does not have time much to enjoy anything. She still is on the CB every now and then and uses the handle Dixie Doodle.

Unfortunately her big antenna was ruined in the storm that was the remnants of Hurricane Ike when it blew through here. Since I became disabled I can't put it back up for her and she's 70... not able to do it herself.

I was on 2 Meters from November 1976 to around 2010.
Earlier, when I was a Novice in 1958, Al Hall K4CSH came down on 3720 Kc/s and talked to a few of us around Louisville to restart the Kentucky Novice Net, and later when I was a General I was on the Kentucky C.W. Net (KYN) on 3600 Kc/s.

I will have to talk with her about it during next week's iv treatment.

I also used a Heathkit Sixer but quit using it when a neighbor said I was heard on their T.V. Set.
I didn't want to mess up the T.V. shows they watched, so I quit using it.

Mom would have went over there and fixed their antenna :-) back in the day she was able to do things like that and getting on a roof didn't bother her. We were the wierd family in the neighborhood when we had roof damage we put a new roof on our house ourselves. We did Dave Ramsey before Dave Ramsey did Dave Ramsey's money program.

73 de Ed W9ODR, ex KN4ZIQ, K4ZIQ and WA9WSB . .

I guess mine would be 2XLT :-)

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Re: Re: XRF PROBLEMS
By: Allen Prunty to Ed Vance on Thu Aug 04 2016 15:36:49

Well she was very active for a time with React and CB Radio. But unfotunately not in this area as we moved frequently during her time in the miliary.

You do realize that CB (and REACT) have nothing to do with Amateur Radio? You need a license for Ham Radio, but not for CB

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Re: Re: XRF PROBLEMS
By: Joe Delahaye to Allen Prunty on Thu Aug 04 2016 04:41 pm

You do realize that CB (and REACT) have nothing to do with Amateur Radio? You need a license for Ham Radio, but not for CB

She has both... and I talked to her about it for a while and she did operate with the 2 meter band but was more active when we lived near keisler AFB. They did not let her do much when we were in europe. It was a hobby she shared with my grandfather growing up in the 1950s.

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08-07-16 00:30 TOM WALKER wrote to ED VANCE about Re: XRF PROBLEMS
Howdy! Tom,

@MSGID: <57A7100F.1139.amtradio@capcity2.synchro.net>

I was 16 in June 1958 when I got my Novice License in the mail.
IIRC, the Citizens Band Radio Service began in September 1958.

If I had wanted to be a CB'er, I would had had to wait two years to apply for a CB License since I wasn't 18 years old.

I never submitted a form to the F.C.C. to operate a CB set, because I
have continued taking Tests to upgrade to a higher Amateur Radio Class,
and have keep remembering to Renew my License on time.

Because my brain could not comprehend CW I pplies for a CB licence.
My CB cal sign was KNA 5683

I began to try to learn CW when two guys I was walking with started
whistling to each other in CW and I thought they were talking about ME.

I'll have to renew again in October 2017.

My General License expires in May of 2022
I had intended to go for the Extra License but the rapid decline of the old Brain Power stopped me from doing so.

I tried for Amateur Extra once Failed the Written part but Passed the CW
part and walked out with a Advanced Class license.

No plans to take the test again, I like being a Do Do with a license class
that isn't offered any more.

73 de Ed W9ODR



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08-06-16 23:59 Allen Prunty wrote to Ed Vance about Re: XRF PROBLEMS
Howdy! Allen,

@MSGID: <57A71012.1140.amtradio@capcity2.synchro.net>

The Mast on my 2 Meter Beam bent over during a storm and my homeowners insurance paid a company to replace the Mast.
They used Water Pipe as a Mast instead of the Radio Shack antenna tubing I had used.

I never thought to ask her to file a claim on it. I was over there lr Dinner, we had company did not get to talk about her radio equipment.

I don't believe I ever chatted with Your Mom.

I looked through the W4MKJ 2 Meter call books I have here and couldn't see anyone named McDonald in them to aid in my seeing if I talked with Your GrandDad by seeing His Call Sign, but failed in my Search.

I hadn't thought to look for Your Mom in those books. HMMM Roundtuit....

I went downstairs and looked the basement. The room was covered in
about two inches of dust. No one has really been in there in years. I still have my old 286 in there and fired it up. Surprisingly an old incarnation of the LiveWire was on it... the old TBBS one.there was
some way that I could extract the information. I could log on and read messages from 1988 to 1994.

Around 1988 is when I started logging on Tom Curries The Volunteer BBS.
I used a C=64 back then and wanted to learn about PC Compatiables.
In 1994 I got a 486 Built and shortly after that became a Tagline Thief.
-snip

What radio communication skills I have was with the Civil Air Patrol I have a VHF radio that can communicate with the CAP's frequency. They still use it... I can hear them on my scanner occasionally.

A friend told me of someone with the CAP who lived at 22nd and Bank Streets.
I worked at the Norman Theater on Portland Street, so one day I left a bit early so I could visit the fellow.
He used a Gonset Communicator, which probably You did also.
I think CAP frequencies are just below the 6 Meter Ham Band?
-snip-

A lot of her equipment is German... I noticed names like Grundig and Blaupunkt (Spelling not correct I am sure) I know from my performing
arts she has a good microphone it's a Sennheiser (spelling not my best again).

When I was in the Navy I was aboard Ships on the Pacific side, never got
over to Europe.
In Sasebo, Japan I did see a TRIO HF Ham rig in a stores window.
In the 1970's I got a Kenwood XCVR that looked about like I saw in Sasebo. -snip-

Typing that reminded me of the Ham Shack at duPont Manual High School had to stop making QSO's on 15 Meters and changed the Coils in their

ransmitter
-snip-

Even though I went to YPAS for a while, my academic classes were at Dupont... they did not like the YPAS kids at all. Now they have made magnets for performing arts spread through the county. Valley has an acting magnet... PRP now has the choir magnet (Doss lost it) both and
PRP got multi-million dollar auditoriums. Valley High school got a
nice keyboard/piano lab too and a recording studio.

I think the amatuer radio stuff is now at Fairdale with their Emergency Services magnet. They also haveradio classes at Shawnee where my
cousin went for the Aviation Magnet.

O.K., Thanks.

73 de Ed W9ODR, ex KN4ZIQ, K4ZIQ and WA9WSB . .

I guess mine would be 2XLT :-)

When I saw 2XLT I picked up a book printed in 1964 that has a A.R.R.L. Countries List.

No that's Double Extra Large Tall :-) Being 6'3 used to be bean pole skinny. The Skinny ship has sailed.

I thought You were talking about clothing sizes but thought I'd keep my
comment on topic.
-snip-

Before I started to write this message I saw in another post that You said Your Mom's Dad also operated a Ham Radio Station.

What was His Last Name?

McDonald....

I bet I probably knowed of Him.

Probably... My grandpa's name was Everett Clayton McDonald Sr.

Thanks, but as I said above, I can't recall talking to Him.
-snip-

Seems like ham Radio was very popular in the East tennessee Mountains.

If you talked with any of them would love to know.

Can't think that I have.

Thanks for the Family Info.

I'm the only Ham in my family.

73


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In a message on Monday 08-06-16 Allen Prunty said to Ed Vance:

Hi Allen,

A lot of her equipment is German... I noticed names like Grundig and Blaupunkt (Spelling not correct I am sure) I know from my performing
arts she has a good microphone it's a Sennheiser (spelling not my
best again).

Your spelling is 100% correct.

I have always had a preference for german radio, TV, household
appliances and whiteware, since my father was employed by Siemens, as
engineer for planning/building power and high voltage stations/lines.

I still have all radio sets made by NordMende, Grundig and Siemens,
until the latest two TV sets that became of asian manufacture.

My HiFi gear is all american, with a Harman Kardon 630, a d:o cassette
deck, a couple of AR-3a's, and a d:o turn table.

Non HiFi gear are an UHER 4000 Report-S tape recorder, a stationary d:o
made by Luxor, but modified by me for MS use, plus some small cassette
machines by Philips and Sony.

The only reason for mentioning all those names, is that you know them,
an ordinary american doesn't.

Amateur equipment consists of american and japanese made sets since
1960. Before that I built my own receivers and transmitters, among them
the first SSB exciter, a chinese copy of the Central Electronics 20A in
1955, and also a copy of their Sideband Slicer model B, to add to my
receiver.

I had to import some parts from the sates as "gift parcels", but fully
paid, because of the strict import regulations Finland had after the
WWII, that allowed only gift parcels through the customs.

I don't however remember how I got hold of the dollars needed.

I was the first SSB station on the air in Finland, and in 1957 became
the first one on the Åland Islands too.

The Channel 3 on VHF never was a good channel... everything seemed
to interfere...

The same was true here too, because all those early TV sets had a 21 MHz
IF. No antenna filters helped to cure direct radiation into the TV's.


Have a good night,

Holger

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Re: Re: XRF PROBLEMS
By: Holger Granholm to Allen Prunty on Mon Aug 08 2016 05:29 pm

I have always had a preference for german radio, TV, household
appliances and whiteware, since my father was employed by Siemens, as engineer for planning/building power and high voltage stations/lines.

Dieter Rams was one of my favorite industrial designers -- his work with Braun appliances and electronics resonated with me. I still have my Braun Aromaster coffee maker from college.

My HiFi gear is all american, with a Harman Kardon 630

I just "inherited" a Harmon Kardon 330B from my mother (she's moving and doesn't have room for it). It was my parents' "HiFi" in the 70s, and from what I've seen is highly sought after because it has a tube sound, although it's all ICs. Old HK stereos from that era just look incredible to me.

Keeping on topic, I have a BaoFeng UV-5R and am studying for my license while listening to the aforementioned FM receiver. :)
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In a message on Wednesday 08-09-16 Kurt Weiske said to Holger Granholm:

Good morning Kurt,

I have always had a preference for german radio, TV, household
appliances and whiteware, since my father was employed by Siemens,

Dieter Rams was one of my favorite industrial designers -- his work
with Braun appliances and electronics resonated with me. I still
have my Braun Aromaster coffee maker from college.

I haven't followed the designers but their products. First business day
this year I had to buy a new coffee maker, since I dropped tha glas can
on new years eve, and I couldn't find a replacement. The new one is a
Braun Aromaster Classic, and so far I'm satisfied.

Earlier, in aug. 2015 I bought a new Braun shaver, because the one I
used at the time, had lost a retaining spring that keeps the foil in
place. I had to use non-streching tape to keep it on.

That new shaver does the worst job compared to all the previous models.
I started using Braun shavers over 50 years ago with the Sixtant 6006,
and have since bought a 3 V battery driven one, received as birthday
present a Braun "Shave & Shape" model. All of these have a single foil
and cutter block.

This new one, a "Smart Control Classic" (5742), does however sport a
dual foil/cutting block. The reasoning may be to make a twice better
job, but the result is worse than any of the previous models.

Yes, I still do have all the previous ones. ;o)

My HiFi gear is all american, with a Harman Kardon 630

I just "inherited" a Harmon Kardon 330B from my mother (she's moving
and doesn't have room for it). It was my parents' "HiFi" in the 70s,

Yes my HiFi equipment does stem from the 70s. I do vaguely remember the
HK 330B, but in between that and the 930 I have, there was also the 630.
The one I have is actually the 930 model that I called 630 earlier.

A neighbour across the street has a model 630. I mixed them up.

and from what I've seen is highly sought after because it has a tube
sound, although it's all ICs. Old HK stereos from that era just look incredible to me.

That "tube sound" was much appreciated by the HiFi fans, after all manufacturers turned to semi conductor products. Marantz was another
producer that I sold too.

Keeping on topic, I have a BaoFeng UV-5R and am studying for my
license while listening to the aforementioned FM receiver. :)

After starting my own business (radio/TV service) and dealership for
both and whiteware plus an importer of ham gear from US, I bought my
first commercially made transceiver, a Drake TR-3, which was followed by
a d:o TR-4/RV-4.

I didn't stop building though, despite the service jogs, but I built a
couple of Heathkit scopes for the ham station, a H-kit sweep generator,
VTVM, and other kits. Today I have regrettably had to cease building and repairin gear, since I've lost one eye to Glaucoma.

With that handicap, it's impossible to focus on small details, and to
solder. You really must have two eyes to be able to closely focus.
Luckily, I was able to retain my drivers license. Only the commercial
truck/bus drivers mus have two eyes.


CU L8ER, Sam, OH0NC

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I have always had a preference for german radio, TV, household
appliances and whiteware, since my father was employed by Siemens, as engineer for planning/building power and high voltage stations/lines.

Strange this just came through tonight... Germans make good stuff...
made to last and made to be repaired. When I buy I usually look for
Braun, Miele, Bosch... all stuff that will last a lifetime if taken care
of.

I still have all radio sets made by NordMende, Grundig and Siemens,
until the latest two TV sets that became of asian manufacture.

No German TV will work in America. We don't make anything in America
anymore.

My HiFi gear is all american, with a Harman Kardon 630, a d:o cassette
deck, a couple of AR-3a's, and a d:o turn table.

Harman Kardon is good but I thought they were made overseas.

Not much time to address everything nice hearing back from you.

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Hi Allen!

06 Aug 2016 23:59, from Allen Prunty -> Ed Vance:

A lot of her equipment is German... I noticed names like Grundig and Blaupunkt (Spelling not correct I am sure)

Correct.
Means blue dot ;)

I know from my performing arts she has a good microphone it's a
Sennheiser (spelling not my best again).

Correct again.

CU, Ricsi

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