• Re: Slavery in Illinois

    From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Gerhard Strangar on Mon Apr 1 09:29:01 2019

    I don't know what you're trying to say. You do not enter the UK, because Gibraltar is not part of the UK, however it is part of the EU due to the UK's contract and thus will be leaving along with the UK. If you don't
    have to show your ID now...

    Yes, you have to ... that has always been the case. Nothing will change for Gibraltar.

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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Gerhard Strangar on Mon Apr 1 09:40:27 2019

    Mohammed Atta managed to get from Madrid to
    Miami twice without the neccessary documents.
    Everyone makes mistakes; US Customs made 1 mistake?

    On his first visit, he left with his visum being expired and noone cared. And one of the other terrorists even obtained a driver's license after
    his visum had expired. The customs checks seem to be eyewash only. You
    can also find some videos on the net where people argue with border
    partol on whether they are free to travel or not, but finally get to
    cross the border without ever showing any ID.

    That's close to 18 years ago already.

    1) Having a visa or not is irrelevant in the USA to obtain a driver's license as the USA has reciprocal agreements with a lot of countries the first 90 days of your stay you can use your national license. If you stay longer you just go the bureau, produce your national-drivers license which needs to be current and
    you will automatically be eligible for one of that state... which then again opens up Pandora's box as you need your driver's license for a host of other things. It's the same thing for Americans staying here more than 90 days.

    2) When wanting to go to the US you now have to pass the ESTA-procedure where you electronically have to apply for permission to be allowed to travel to the USA. Costs $14 for 2 years. No ESTA? No entry. This dates from after 9/11 too.

    3) Customs now are on a pre-check basis. Because of the computers DHS knows I frequently pass the border at an airport and I am pre-cleared. There are no customs formalities anymore. Weird ... really ... but handy.

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  • From aaron thomas@1:123/525 to Gerhard Strangar on Mon Apr 1 12:22:41 2019
    What's the problem with the Canadian border? ;-)

    It's also a problem, but it doesn't have thousands of people walking across illegally in 1 day. Also, Canadians aren't ever in the news for stuff, like, burning people alive. So the southern border is more of an issue.

    On his first visit, he left with his visum being expired and noone

    We have some bad employees who need coaching.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to Ward Dossche on Mon Apr 1 21:06:20 2019
    Hello Ward,

    That's what we have in the EU between the 26 Schengen countries ...

    How many of those countries are 3rd world countries?

    The same number as your 50 states..

    At last count, the US had 46 states and 4 commonwealths.
    And 1 municipality.
    Could you fill us all in as to what the other 4 states might be?

    --Lee

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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Lee Lofaso on Mon Apr 1 22:09:58 2019

    The same number as your 50 states..

    At last count, the US had 46 states and 4 commonwealths.
    And 1 municipality.
    Could you fill us all in as to what the other 4 states might be?

    Sure ... insanity, bankrupt, unreliable, untrustworthy ...

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Gerhard Strangar on Tue Apr 2 01:33:02 2019
    On 04-01-19 07:43, Gerhard Strangar <=-
    spoke to Ward Dossche about Re: Slavery in Illinois <=-

    So when I drive from Finland 'to' Gibraltar I never enter the UK.

    I don't know what you're trying to say. You do not enter
    the UK, because Gibraltar is not part of the UK, however it

    Gibraltar is part of the UK. Look it up.

    In the early 70s when I lived in England, I had wanted to visit
    Gibraltar as a home base for touring Spain by rented auto. I discovered
    that, at that time, such travel was impossible because Spain had closed
    the border -- because of some dispute they were having with the UK.

    Dale Shipp
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  • From Gerhard Strangar@2:240/2188.575 to Dale Shipp on Tue Apr 2 18:17:58 2019
    Am 02 Apr 19 01:33:02 schrob Dale Shipp an Gerhard Strangar zum Thema <Gibraltar>

    Gibraltar is part of the UK. Look it up.

    You need to correct some Wikipedia articles, then: ------------------------------------------------------------- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom
    [...]
    Membership
    England
    Northern Ireland
    Scotland
    Wales
    [...]
    The United Kingdom has sovereignty over seventeen territories which do not form
    part of the United Kingdom itself: fourteen British Overseas Territories[26] and three Crown dependencies.[26][169]
    The fourteen British Overseas Territories are: [...]; Gibraltar; [...] -------------------------------------------------------------

    ------------------------------------------------------------- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gibraltar
    Gibraltar was nominated to be included on the United Nations list of Non-Self-Governing Territories by the United Kingdom when the list was created in 1946[58] and has been listed ever since.[59] The government of Gibraltar has
    actively worked to have Gibraltar removed from the list,[60] and in 2008 the British government declared Gibraltar's continued presence on the list an anachronism.[61]
    -------------------------------------------------------------

    And you also need to get rid of the fake TLD .gi where someone seems to spend all his spare time on making up fake laws: https://www.gibraltarlaws.gov.gi/full_index.php
    for example the one about "Amendments to facilitate passporting between Gibraltar and the United Kingdom".




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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to ALL on Tue Apr 2 19:09:00 2019
    border controls at the Californian border? I think there's also one state where individuals can legally own machine guns, do they have

    That may be Kentucky. They used to have a big gun day down near Fort Knox where you could bring anything and shoot it on an outdoor range.

    Mike

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to GERHARD STRANGAR on Tue Apr 2 19:10:00 2019
    There's no state that won't transfer custody to another state. Provincial borders are not bothering anybody that I know of; it's the international borders, and for me, it's the US-Mexico border

    What's the problem with the Canadian border? ;-)

    None on this side. They may not want US wandering North, however. :)

    Mike

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Gerhard Strangar on Wed Apr 3 01:36:00 2019
    On 04-02-19 18:17, Gerhard Strangar <=-
    spoke to Dale Shipp about Gibraltar <=-

    Gibraltar is part of the UK. Look it up.

    You need to correct some Wikipedia articles, then:

    Why would I do that (nor do I know how to do that). I see nothing wrong
    with the articles I have seen, nor what you quote, nor what I said.

    The fourteen British Overseas Territories are: [...]; Gibraltar; [...]

    So -- as you say, Gibraltar is a territory of the UK, i.e. it is part of
    the UK.

    The government of Gibraltar has actively worked to have
    Gibraltar removed from the list,[60] and in 2008 the
    British government declared Gibraltar's continued presence
    on the list an anachronism.[61]

    That may be, but is also considerably later than the time I was talking
    about from my personal experience in the early 1970's. If Gibraltar
    wants to become independent -- so be it, but what you quote implies that
    has not yet happened.

    And you also need to get rid of the fake TLD .gi where
    someone seems to spend all his spare time on making up fake
    laws:

    I have no idea what you are talking about there. I have no knowledge of
    a fake TLD .gi.

    Dale Shipp
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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Mike Powell on Wed Apr 3 09:40:01 2019
    That may be Kentucky. They used to have a big gun day down near Fort
    Knox where you could bring anything and shoot it on an outdoor range.

    Really?

    So I could bring my mother-in-law and shoot her?

    Where do I sign-up?

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  • From Gerhard Strangar@2:240/2188.575 to Dale Shipp on Wed Apr 3 15:57:05 2019
    Am 03 Apr 19 01:36:00 schrob Dale Shipp an Gerhard Strangar zum Thema
    <Re: Gibraltar>

    So -- as you say, Gibraltar is a territory of the UK, i.e. it is part of the UK.

    Do you also consider Puerto Rico to be part of the USA?

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Overseas_Territories
    The British Overseas Territories (BOTs) or United Kingdom Overseas Territories (UKOTs) are 14 territories under the jurisdiction and sovereignty of the United
    Kingdom.[1][2] They are remnants of the British Empire that have not been granted independence or have voted to remain British territories. These territories do not form part of the United Kingdom and, with the exception of Gibraltar, are not part of the European Union. ----------------------------------------------------------------------




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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Gerhard Strangar on Wed Apr 3 16:16:23 2019

    So -- as you say, Gibraltar is a territory of the UK, i.e. it is part GS>DS> of the UK.

    Do you also consider Puerto Rico to be part of the USA?

    Is St.Pierre et Miquelon part of France? And therefor of Europe?

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to aaron thomas on Wed Apr 3 18:50:18 2019
    Hello Aaron,

    WD> at>WD> That's what we have in the EU between the 26 Schengen
    countries ...
    WD>
    WD> at> How many of those countries are 3rd world countries?
    WD>
    WD> The same number as your 50 states..

    We have different definitions of "third world countries." We also sometimes >call them "LDCs," or "Less Developed Countries."

    We also have different mathematical rules; in the USA, you can't make 50 out >of 26.

    Virginia split itself into two states.
    Texas can split itself into multiple states.
    California can split itself into multiple states.

    States can leave and become an independent state.
    This has happened before. And can happen again.

    A municipality can become a state.
    A territory can become a state.
    A banana republic can become a state.
    Another country can become a state.

    Who is to say how many states the USA can, or cannot, have?

    There is no number specified in the US Constitution.

    Maybe the USA should simply be one big state.
    That way, in order to leave, the state would have
    no choice but to secede from itself.

    --Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to Gerhard Strangar on Wed Apr 3 18:50:24 2019
    Hello Gerhard,

    I can drive from the north of Finland to Gibraltar, cross 7 or 8 >GS>>WD>countries/borders without having to show any documentation

    You'd better do that soon, Gibraltar is part of her majesty's Brexit.

    Just so you know, that is already the case as the UK has never been a >WD>Schengen country.
    So when I drive from Finland 'to' Gibraltar I never enter the UK.

    I don't know what you're trying to say. You do not enter the UK, because
    Gibraltar is not part of the UK, however it is part of the EU due to the
    UK's contract and thus will be leaving along with the UK. If you don't have to show your ID now, you surely will have to after the hard Brexit on April the 12th - or whenever the EU decides that we've had enough of what seems
    to be the longest Monty Python sketch ever.

    Oh, Brexit is just the start. The start of a new end.

    First, the UK portion of England/Wales/Scotland/N. Ireland
    separates itself from the EU.

    Then, Ireland does away with N. Ireland by declaring N. Ireland
    part of Ireland, which remains part of the EU.

    Then, Scotland removes itself from the UK, thus returning to the EU.

    Then, Wales removes itself from the UK, thus returning to the EU.

    Then, with no more PM ruling over England, all the people
    of Merry Ol' England declare "God Save the Queen!"

    --Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to Ward Dossche on Wed Apr 3 18:50:59 2019
    Hello Ward,

    The same number as your 50 states..

    At last count, the US had 46 states and 4 commonwealths.
    And 1 municipality.
    Could you fill us all in as to what the other 4 states might be?

    Sure ... insanity, bankrupt, unreliable, untrustworthy ...

    Does that include our Banana Republic (Louisiana) which
    somehow got classified as a state?

    OTOH, Louisiana does have the best politicians money can buy ...

    --Lee

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  • From BOB ACKLEY@1:123/140 to WARD DOSSCHE on Wed Apr 3 16:06:04 2019
    Congresswoman AOC is in favor of free-range humans; no wall, just
    walk or
    drive across national borders freely without the need for a
    passport.

    We do that between states in this country. You don't have people
    freely coming across the Mediterranean to enter Europe, or from Russia.

    Europe as a whole is analogous to the US as a whole, with its member
    countries being the equivalent of individual states here
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  • From BOB ACKLEY@1:123/140 to WARD DOSSCHE on Wed Apr 3 16:09:14 2019
    Moreover, they could just go to California for some mariuana. Are
    there
    border controls at the Californian border?

    Yes, I have been stopped at the California-border when entering from
    Nevada.
    Car searched, Trailways bus searched.

    California calls those customs stations 'agricultural inspection'
    stations, that gets them around the Constitutional ban on interfering
    with interstate commerce. The last few times (most recently in 1994) I
    was in California I was not stopped at the border (on I-80), but in the
    very dim past I was (on US-99 and on US-95)
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  • From BOB ACKLEY@1:123/140 to MIKE POWELL on Wed Apr 3 16:14:36 2019
    border controls at the Californian border? I think there's
    also one
    state where individuals can legally own machine guns, do they
    have

    That may be Kentucky. They used to have a big gun day down near Fort
    Knox
    where you could bring anything and shoot it on an outdoor range.

    I'm sure BATF doesn't like it, but pretty much anybody can own a
    machine gun if they pay a $200 tax - which BATF will not accept if
    offered, even though they were founded as a tax collection agency
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  • From BOB ACKLEY@1:123/140 to GERHARD STRANGAR on Wed Apr 3 16:17:54 2019
    Am 03 Apr 19 01:36:00 schrob Dale Shipp an Gerhard Strangar zum
    Thema
    <Re: Gibraltar>

    So -- as you say, Gibraltar is a territory of the UK, i.e. it is
    part of
    the UK.

    Do you also consider Puerto Rico to be part of the USA?

    It's a 'territory.' As are Samoa and the Mariana Islands and a couple
    of Caribbean islands.

    Hawaii used to be a territory until it was granted statehood in 1959.
    Hawaii was in independent kingdom until the US illegally conquered and
    annexed it in 1898 because the Hawaiian government wouldn't let the US
    navy build a base at the mouth of the Pearl River (said base is now
    known as Pearl Harbor). That's pretty much what Putin did to Crimea a
    couple of years ago
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  • From BOB ACKLEY@1:123/140 to LEE LOFASO on Wed Apr 3 16:21:36 2019
    Hello Aaron,

    WD> at>WD> That's what we have in the EU between the 26 Schengen countries ...
    WD>
    WD> at> How many of those countries are 3rd world countries?
    WD>
    WD> The same number as your 50 states..

    We have different definitions of "third world countries." We also
    sometimes
    call them "LDCs," or "Less Developed Countries."

    We also have different mathematical rules; in the USA, you can't
    make 50 out
    of 26.

    Virginia split itself into two states.

    It did not. The western counties of Virginia seceded from that state
    and were admitted - contrary to the provisions of the US Constitution 0-
    as a separate, new state.

    Texas can split itself into multiple states.
    California can split itself into multiple states.

    Los Angeles got one of its pet judges to remove that measure - to split California into three states - from the ballot. That measure would
    have passed by a wide margin in every part of the state except Los
    Angeles.

    States can leave and become an independent state.
    This has happened before. And can happen again.

    That caused a war that the South lost - despite Mr. Lincoln's claim,
    made in an 1848 speech, that states had the right to do exactly what
    the South did. Apparently after he got into power he changed his mind.
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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to WARD DOSSCHE on Wed Apr 3 19:01:00 2019
    That may be Kentucky. They used to have a big gun day down near Fort
    Knox where you could bring anything and shoot it on an outdoor range.

    Really?

    So I could bring my mother-in-law and shoot her?

    Where do I sign-up?

    I do believe that there are restrictions on what you can shoot at. :)

    Mike

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to LEE LOFASO on Wed Apr 3 19:12:00 2019
    Virginia split itself into two states.

    Actually, three -- Kentucky back in the 1790's, and West Virginia during the 1860's are the other two.

    Parts of Ohio and Indiana were also part of Virginia's territories before becoming part of another territory.

    Mike

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Gerhard Strangar on Thu Apr 4 00:21:00 2019
    On 04-03-19 15:57, Gerhard Strangar <=-
    spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Gibraltar <=-


    Am 03 Apr 19 01:36:00 schrob Dale Shipp an Gerhard Strangar zum
    Thema <Re: Gibraltar>

    So -- as you say, Gibraltar is a territory of the UK, i.e. it is part of the UK.

    Do you also consider Puerto Rico to be part of the USA?

    Definitely. The people of Puerto Rico are American citizens, albeit
    without representation in the Congress.

    Dale Shipp
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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Mike Powell on Thu Apr 4 09:27:27 2019
    That may be Kentucky. They used to have a big gun day down near
    Fort Knox where you could bring anything and shoot it on an outdoor
    range.

    So I could bring my mother-in-law and shoot her?

    I do believe that there are restrictions on what you can shoot at. :)

    "anything" sounds pretty unrestricted by me ... 8-)

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  • From Gerhard Strangar@2:240/2188.575 to Ward Dossche on Thu Apr 4 11:24:12 2019
    Am 03 Apr 19 16:16:23 schrob Ward Dossche an Gerhard Strangar zum Thema
    <Re: Gibraltar>

    Is St.Pierre et Miquelon part of France? And therefor of Europe?

    It's not a département and therefore not part of the EU. And it's part of North
    Amrica, not Europe.
    French Guiana is part of the EU, though.



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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Gerhard Strangar on Thu Apr 4 18:25:08 2019
    Is St.Pierre et Miquelon part of France? And therefor of Europe?

    It's not a département and therefore not part of the EU. And it's part of North Amrica, not Europe.

    Hmmm ... the official currency is the Euro and in July non-stop flights to Paris CDG are started.

    I think I can even go there without a passport as it seems Schengen rules apply.

    French Guiana is part of the EU, though.

    How about Mururoa ? Martinique?

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  • From Gerhard Strangar@2:240/2188.575 to Ward Dossche on Thu Apr 4 20:21:28 2019
    Am 04 Apr 19 18:25:08 schrob Ward Dossche an Gerhard Strangar zum Thema
    <Re: Gibraltar>

    Hmmm ... the official currency is the Euro and in July non-stop flights
    to Paris CDG are started.

    So what?
    Montenegro and Kosovo both replaced the Dinar with Deutsche Mark and later on also changed to Euro without being in the European Currency Union.

    I think I can even go there without a passport as it seems Schengen
    rules apply.

    They don't. I don't know if you need a passport, though. AFAIR I've never had one, my German ID card was suffiecent for Turkey and even the CSSR.

    French Guiana is part of the EU, though.
    How about Mururoa ? Martinique?

    For details, read this in your favourite language: https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX:12012E/TXT

    Or if you're good at geography, grab a Euro bank note and look at the shape of the islands. However, you might want to use a 500 Euro note, they're too small on the other ones. :-)



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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to WARD DOSSCHE on Fri Apr 5 19:53:00 2019
    French Guiana is part of the EU, though.
    How about Mururoa ? Martinique?

    I am starting to wonder if you are planning a Carribean vacation and are
    hoping that GS will do all of the research for you. :)

    Mike

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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Mike Powell on Sun Apr 7 22:11:40 2019
    How about Mururoa ? Martinique?

    I am starting to wonder if you are planning a Carribean vacation and are hoping that GS will do all of the research for you. :)

    Next I intend to ask him about recommended hotels ...

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  • From BOB ACKLEY@1:123/140 to DALE SHIPP on Mon Apr 8 16:02:44 2019
    On 04-03-19 15:57, Gerhard Strangar <=-
    spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Gibraltar <=-


    Am 03 Apr 19 01:36:00 schrob Dale Shipp an Gerhard Strangar zum
    Thema <Re: Gibraltar>

    So -- as you say, Gibraltar is a territory of the UK, i.e. it is
    part of
    the UK.

    Do you also consider Puerto Rico to be part of the USA?

    Definitely. The people of Puerto Rico are American citizens, albeit
    without representation in the Congress.

    I don't think they get to vote for president, either, unless they have
    an official residence in a state and can vote absentee there
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  • From Gerhard Strangar@2:240/2188.575 to Ward Dossche on Mon Apr 8 17:42:20 2019
    Am 07 Apr 19 22:11:40 schrob Ward Dossche an Mike Powell zum Thema
    <Re: Gibraltar>

    How about Mururoa ? Martinique?
    Next I intend to ask him about recommended hotels ...

    Mururoa might only have a fallout shelter.



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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Gerhard Strangar on Tue Apr 9 10:08:03 2019

    How about Mururoa ? Martinique?
    Next I intend to ask him about recommended hotels ...

    Mururoa might only have a fallout shelter.

    The fishing's great ... a lot of glowfish ...

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to All on Wed May 8 05:14:12 2019
    Hello Everybody,

    Gibraltar. Spain wants it back. Think the UK will allow it
    to happen? Or will the Spanish send in another armada to make
    it their own again?

    https://www.thetrumpet.com/18594-spain-demands-decolonization-of
    -gibraltar

    --Lee

    --
    Our Nuts, Your Mouth

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