• Disabled Conservative

    From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to aaron thomas on Sat Jan 26 01:30:23 2019
    Hello Aaron,

    I'm a disabled conservative too. I live in NY, and I watched our leftist >governor shut down a mental heath treatment center in my city, and turn it >into a drug addiction treatment center. Now, the same guy is advocating >illegal immigration, which I believe fuels illicit drug use.

    Addiction is a medical condition. Whether it is drugs or alcohol,
    gambling or tech, or some other addiction, it is still a medical
    condition.

    There used to be many public drug addiction treatment centers.
    Drugs and alcohol are two of the main addictions (medical conditions)
    that people suffer from. However, many of those public centers
    have been closed due to budget cuts. In their place are many private
    drug addiction centers. A whole lot of them, not just a few.

    People who need treatment for their medical condition have insurance,
    which pays the bill for going to those private drug addiction centers.
    Those who do not have insurance have to find a public drug addiction
    center. But there are not enough public drug addiction centers, as
    most that are still around have few (if any) beds available.

    Federal regulations put a limit of 28 days for folks to undergo
    treatment, in order to keep costs down. After those 28 days, folks
    have to return to wherever they came from. Those who have no place
    to go are left homeless.

    Until the next time they have a relapse.

    About 90% of those with this medical condition have a relapse
    within a year. Which means those who are homeless are usually
    only homeless a few times a year, rather than year-round.

    Unless they have been busted for drugs, and a judge mandates
    they undergo treatment as part of their probation to stay out
    of jail. Which makes it a revolving door kind of thing.

    What makes you think the left isn't in line with the disabled?

    Follow the money.

    The Progressive magazine wrote a nice article on this subject.

    --Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to Mike Powell on Sat Jan 26 01:30:29 2019
    Hello Mike,

    Hello all,I find that in the blind world or disabled world that a lot
    of hat group leans left. I don't at all aline with them and sometimes I >>feel like an outsider.

    I am not disabled. My views are more libertarian and I also feel like an >outsider a lot. A lot of my old friends from school have really moved far, >far left and are pretty sensitive about it. I feel like I have to walk on >eggshells around many of them. I can only imagine what trying to
    communicate with them would be like if I were on the far right... I am >guessing they would stop talking to me.

    A party of one?

    Why has our society become so polarized? It used to be, not so
    long ago, that regardless of party or ideology, folks could talk
    with each other and have real conversations. And even have some
    agreements, at least on some issues.

    Not any more. Today it more like a war. You are either with
    me, or against me. Pick your side. And no caving to the other
    side. Everybody folks their arms, and looks the other way.

    Who benefits from this? Somebody does. That is why whenever
    somebody tries to get the two sides to agree on anything, that
    somebody gets shot down as being some kind of a traitor.

    So this madness continues.

    The government is in shutdown mode. And this game can go on for
    as long as the leaders who are promoting it want it to continue.
    Each leader is blaming the other, rather than admitting their own
    fault in the matter. And this game can be played over and over
    again, as long as they want, whenever they want.

    I blame you, you blame me, everybody else blames each other.

    Somebody somewhere is pulling the strings.

    Who is the dummy?

    Why does the dummy continue to play along?

    --Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to SETH HURST on Sat Jan 26 01:30:35 2019
    Hello Seth,

    Yeah they don't like when I bring up the fact that open borders is
    hurting them. But then they always push college as the answer in the
    blind world. I'm also very outspoken about the blind world as well.

    We should do away with paper currency. That way, nobody will
    be able to scam those who are blind. Imagine telling a blind person
    that you have donated $100 to their cause, and then drop a $1 bill
    into their tin can. The blind person will never know.

    OTOH, Stevie Wonder doesn't seem to mind ...

    "Don't you worry 'bout a thing." ~Stevie Wonder

    --Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to aaron thomas on Sat Jan 26 01:30:40 2019
    Hello Aaron,

    I'd like to see someone like Maxine Waters fighting for disabled >Californians. If liberals were the goodie-goodies they claim to be, then I'd
    give them much more credit.

    I'd like to see politicians of *all* stripes fighting for the rights
    of *all* Americans rather than for just a select few.

    It's too bad that we have become a country that is not "we the people"
    but rather "we the rich". Sure, the Framers of the Constitution wrote
    the document, which opens "We the people" - referring to themselves.
    Rich, white Anglo Saxon males who owned property (including slaves).
    A flawed document, to be sure. Amended 27 times since it was passed
    and ratified. And still not perfect.

    Politicians of both political parties are guilty of favoring the
    wealthy, rather than protecting the rights of those who are less
    fortunate. Why not do away with the death penalty, since black
    folks are far more likely to be done away with than white folks?
    Is it because of race? Or because white folks are wealthier?
    When was the last time a rich man (or rich woman) was sentenced
    to death, and that sentence carried out, in this country?

    It is not just the death penalty. Black folks are given harsher
    sentences that white folks who have been convicted of the same crime.
    White folks are often given probation rather than having to serve
    any time in jail/prison. But hey. That is a reflection of who we
    are, as a society.

    What will happen when white folks are no longer the majority?
    It is only a matter of time when that happens. Not a question
    of if. That day will come within our own lifetimes. Some will
    love it. Others will hate it. But it will come.

    I raised a question as to why those who are receiving SSI are
    forced to live in sin rather than marry. Those who receive SSDI
    are not forced to live in sin rather than marry since they have
    earned those benefits. But those on SSI have earned nothing, so
    are entitled to nothing in return. At least, that is my guess.

    What a sick society we are. Giving less to those who are less
    fortunate. Just because we can.

    --Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to SETH HURST on Sat Jan 26 01:30:51 2019
    Hello Seth,

    Hello all,I find that in the blind world or disabled world that a lot
    of hat group leans left. I don't at all aline with them and sometimes I
    feel like an outsider.

    Why should the blind/disabled who are receiving SSI have
    their SSI payments docked by one-third if they marry?

    A few years ago, during the Clinton administration, Democrats
    introduced legislation to put an end to that practice. But the
    bill died in committee, on a party-line vote. That was to be
    expected, given the Republicans controlled the House.

    GWB was more interested in prosecuting a madman in Iraq than
    helping blind/disabled receive full SSI payments. So nothing
    was done under his watch.

    During the Obama administration, no such legislation was introduced.
    Not even when Democrats controlled both houses of Congress. The
    last six years the Republicans controlled both houses, so nothing
    could be expected.

    During the first two years of the Trump administration, nothing
    was done to change the status quo. Even though Republicans controlled
    all three branches of government. Now, even though the Democrats
    have regained control of the House, nothing can be expected to change.

    So. Bottom line. The supposedly "pro-life" party wants
    blind/disabled Americans who receive SSI to be penalized if
    they marry, or live in sin.

    Perhaps the blind/disabled should become transgender and be
    counted as neither male nor female. That way, they will get a
    pass from having to serve in the military. And will never
    be docked for getting married, as marriage between transgenders
    is not recognized by the "pro-life" party of the USA.

    Either that or have Mr. McGoo run for president.

    --Lee

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Fri Jan 25 17:23:00 2019
    minorities, etc., in their place so that they have something to continue >MP> to blame on the non-liberal politicians. Liberal voters either don't

    I can see that, as part of an even bigger ridiculous picture.

    The fake good-guy badges worn by liberals are a tool that they use, but for what?

    That is a simple one... to buy votes.

    Mike

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to Mike Powell on Sat Jan 26 15:23:23 2019
    Hello Mike,

    Yeah they don't like when I bring up the fact that open borders is
    hurting them. But then they always push college as the answer in the
    blind world. I'm also very outspoken about the blind world as well.

    My opinion of college is that it is a good thing for some people, if they >know what they want to do and choose a practical major. There are a lot of >unemployed and underemployed folks who chose a major they thought they'd >enjoy but does not really translate to anything they can make a living
    doing. Since they probably took on a lot of loan debt in doing so, it
    would be nice to be able to make $$$ to pay it off.

    Why? The state of Louisiana has free tuition program called TOPS.
    This program is very popular for students, and it is political suicide
    for legislators to do away with it. So why not give the people what
    they want? Free college tuition should be for everybody in this
    country, not just those in Louisiana, and in Georgia (which has a
    similar program).

    --Lee

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to LEE LOFASO on Sat Jan 26 10:33:00 2019
    eggshells around many of them. I can only imagine what trying to >communicate with them would be like if I were on the far right... I am >guessing they would stop talking to me.

    A party of one?

    Why has our society become so polarized? It used to be, not so
    long ago, that regardless of party or ideology, folks could talk
    with each other and have real conversations. And even have some
    agreements, at least on some issues.

    This is true. On a trip through Canada a couple of years ago, I had a very good conversation with a fellow whose views were far left of mine. We did agree on some things, and accepted (at least I know I did) that we would
    not on others.

    Mike

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  • From SETH HURST@1:123/140 to LEE LOFASO on Sat Jan 26 11:28:10 2019
    Well I would want to get off of SSI as soon as possible. One of the
    reasons they dock pay if your married is because if you think about it
    you would be making more money if someone was living with yu. I always
    wanted to work and not be relient on the gov for money. The reason why
    is because I want to be able to tell people I did it.
    So that is also why I want to get married as well but to each his own I
    guess.
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  • From aaron thomas@1:123/525 to Lee Lofaso on Sat Jan 26 09:38:23 2019
    Addiction is a medical condition. Whether it is drugs or alcohol,

    I understand, but mental illness is a medical condition also. He closed
    "Broome Developmental Center" and transformed it into uhh some drug rehab place. I'm not the boss, so there's hopefully a good reason for that, but it was a place that housed disabled children. IMO, it's sad for children to have to relocate (disabled - maybe familyless children) to a different county
    after they've gotten used to it here.

    ...And it's because of drug addiction, caused by drug use, caused by bad choices. It bothers me. I'd help those kids stay put if I had the money or power.

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  • From aaron thomas@1:123/525 to Lee Lofaso on Sat Jan 26 10:03:17 2019
    When was the last time a rich man (or rich woman) was sentenced
    to death, and that sentence carried out, in this country?

    I say let's zap em! But they have to be caught first. And for statistical purposes, they need to be tried by the same judges or juries.

    There are a lot of women who want a female president, and that's similar to "more blacks are executed than whites." It's just what it is. I think there just so happens to be more males interested in the presidency, and there just so happens to be more blacks interested in crime. Not racism or sexism; just the way it is.

    It is not just the death penalty. Black folks are given harsher

    I don't see that. Maybe that happens when it's a conservative judge. When
    it's a democrat judge, maybe the white guy gets the chair?

    What will happen when white folks are no longer the majority?
    It is only a matter of time when that happens. Not a question

    That time has already come decades ago in many parts of the USA. I'm a white guy. I was a minority in New Mexico for 10 years. I got treated like garbage
    by hispanics and natives. If I was hispanic, I would've got hired for better jobs, people would have let their kids play with my kids, I wouldn't have been mad-dogged everywhere I went.

    I don't hold it against them though; prejudism is human nature, and it's everywhere. However, in defense of whites, I must say that my hispanic wife
    has not dealt with any obvious racism in the 4 years that we've lived in NY.

    Eye opener? If you're white, stay out of the latino-southwest. Let them live their racist lives there, and live your loving non-racist life elsewhere.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to LEE LOFASO on Sun Jan 27 10:41:00 2019
    My opinion of college is that it is a good thing for some people, if they >know what they want to do and choose a practical major. There are a lot of >unemployed and underemployed folks who chose a major they thought they'd >enjoy but does not really translate to anything they can make a living >doing. Since they probably took on a lot of loan debt in doing so, it >would be nice to be able to make $$$ to pay it off.

    Why? The state of Louisiana has free tuition program called TOPS.
    This program is very popular for students, and it is political suicide
    for legislators to do away with it. So why not give the people what
    they want? Free college tuition should be for everybody in this
    country, not just those in Louisiana, and in Georgia (which has a
    similar program).

    Even if it is FREE, what is the point of going to college if what you major
    in will not obtain you gainful employment? If I could have found gainful employment without my degree, I sure would not have wasted that time.

    I would rather not see my tax money going towards a program where a kid can
    get a degree in, say, English Lit, not find a job, and then sit around complaining about the "poor job market (for their poorly chosen major)"
    while continuing to live off of the government. That is dumb.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Sun Jan 27 10:48:00 2019
    I understand, but mental illness is a medical condition also. He closed "Broome Developmental Center" and transformed it into uhh some drug rehab place. I'm not the boss, so there's hopefully a good reason for that, but it

    I wonder why it could not have been both?

    Mike

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to Mike Powell on Sun Jan 27 19:53:05 2019
    Hello Mike,

    eggshells around many of them. I can only imagine what trying to
    communicate with them would be like if I were on the far right... I am
    guessing they would stop talking to me.

    A party of one?

    Why has our society become so polarized? It used to be, not so
    long ago, that regardless of party or ideology, folks could talk
    with each other and have real conversations. And even have some
    agreements, at least on some issues.

    This is true. On a trip through Canada a couple of years ago, I had a very >good conversation with a fellow whose views were far left of mine. We did >agree on some things, and accepted (at least I know I did) that we would
    not on others.

    Tech addiction. I think that is the root cause of why
    the world is like it is today.

    With the internet, we have all become our own experts.
    On everything. We can diagnose our own selves, and find
    out what is wrong with us. And then have plausible
    deniability when we find that we are right and everybody
    else is wrong.

    What will we do without the internet? We would all be lost.
    Truly lost, not knowing a thing about anything ...

    --Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to SETH HURST on Sun Jan 27 19:53:11 2019
    Hello Seth,

    Well I would want to get off of SSI as soon as possible.

    There's a little form you can fill out to do that. :)

    One of the reasons they dock pay if your married is because if you think
    about it you would be making more money if someone was living with yu.

    What cockamamie bullshit. It is just an excuse not to pay out
    what should be paid. The real issue is access to quality health
    care. Until this country does away with its healthcare for profit
    system, problems will remain for lots of folks. Not just those
    who are dependent on welfare, but for everybody.

    I always wanted to work and not be relient on the gov for money.

    If you are not insurable, it is impossible for you to make enough
    money to survive on. No company or business will hire you because
    you are uninsurable. Insurance companies slap on riders so that
    you could never afford coverage on your own, so your only solution
    is to beg government for help.

    Lots of people are homeless, taking their own chances without
    having insurance. When they get sick, they just go to a clinic
    and get what they need. Assuming they are healthy enough to
    get there, and can find a ride.

    Some of those homeless are luckier than others, having a small
    pension for being a veteran. At least they can afford to live
    in a box, rather than on a bench. When they get sick, they can
    go to a VA hospital, and also get their drugs for free.

    The reason why is because I want to be able to tell people I did it.

    All you need is a tin can.

    So that is also why I want to get married as well but to each his own I
    guess.

    A tin can, on a street corner, raising funds for a wedding.
    Sounds like a sure winner!

    --Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to aaron thomas on Sun Jan 27 19:53:23 2019
    Hello Aaron,

    Addiction is a medical condition. Whether it is drugs or alcohol,

    I understand, but mental illness is a medical condition also. He closed >"Broome Developmental Center" and transformed it into uhh some drug rehab >place. I'm not the boss, so there's hopefully a good reason for that, but it >was a place that housed disabled children. IMO, it's sad for children to
    have
    to relocate (disabled - maybe familyless children) to a different county >after they've gotten used to it here.

    That is common, not just in New York, and has been happening for
    years. Problem is, there are now too few public facilities they can
    go to, as states have closed most of them down due to budget cuts.
    That leaves only private facilities, which are too expensive for
    those without insurance. Along with those whose insurance has run
    out.

    ..And it's because of drug addiction, caused by drug use, caused by bad
    choices. It bothers me. I'd help those kids stay put if I had the money or power.

    It is a medical condition. Rush Limbaugh had a problem with this,
    and needed help. This affects both rich and poor, and makes no
    distinction between race or gender, etc. Rather than blame the
    person, look at how to treat the medical condition. If someone
    has a toothache, the solution would to help him/her find a dentist.
    Same thing for those who have a problem with addiction.

    Sugar causes tooth decay. Should we ban sugar?
    Pain pills cause addiction. Should we ban pain pills?
    Cigarettes cause cancer. Should we ban cigarettes?

    --Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to aaron thomas on Sun Jan 27 19:53:30 2019
    Hello Aaron,

    When was the last time a rich man (or rich woman) was sentenced
    to death, and that sentence carried out, in this country?

    I say let's zap em! But they have to be caught first. And for statistical >purposes, they need to be tried by the same judges or juries.

    It may be necessary to grant them a change in venue in order to
    ensure they get a fair trial. At least that way they will have
    a fighting chance, unlike their victims.

    There are a lot of women who want a female president, and that's similar to
    "more blacks are executed than whites."

    There are lots more women than men in this country. And most
    adults, both men and women, want to be president.

    There are lots more white folk than black folk in this country.
    Yet far more black folk are executed than white folk. Especially
    poor black folk. Mostly young single black men, thus keeping
    the birth rate down.

    Note that no rich man or rich woman is ever executed. Of any race.
    And no intellectually challenged person is ever executed. Of any race.
    And no children are ever executed. Of any race.

    It's too bad not everybody has his/her own excuse. What a wonderful
    country this would be if everybody had an exemption. All people would
    be created equal and have equal rights ...

    It's just what it is. I think there just so happens to be more males
    interested in the presidency, and there just so happens to be more blacks interested in crime. Not racism or sexism; just the way it is.

    There are four women who have officially announced their candidacies
    for the Democratic nomination for president. This is early, so do
    expect more women to jump into the field. On the Republican side,
    women are steering clear, waiting until The Orange One embarrasses
    himself in his bid to win a second term. And then, it will be open
    season, with tons of women announcing their candidacies for the
    Republican nomination for president.

    Look how many women (of both parties) who are serving in Congress
    today. A record high. And that number will continue to grow. At
    all levels of government, not just federal.

    There is more crime committed by blacks that has been reported
    than crime committed by whites. But that does not mean that blacks
    commit more crime than whites or vice versa. Reported crime is
    not the same thing as crimes commmitted. For example, most crime
    is committed by family members. Why would parents want to turn
    their own children in? Makes no sense. Better to let them get away
    with it.

    Here is an example -

    The other day, a white 21-year-old male got mad at his white
    parents because they kicked him out of their home. So he went
    to his white girlfriend's place and begged her to let him stay
    there. She refused, so he shot her and her sister dead, along
    with her uncle. Then he went to his parent's house and shot
    them dead.

    Nobody reported the crime, as the victims were dead, and the
    shooter had left the scene. Not sure if law enforcement has found
    him yet, but if not I am sure he soon will be.

    Usually, when a crime is committed, it is black on black.
    Or white on white. For whatever reason, folks of the same
    color tend to flock together, and live in the same places.
    And most crime is local, so ...

    It is not just the death penalty. Black folks are given harsher

    I don't see that. Maybe that happens when it's a conservative judge. When >it's a democrat judge, maybe the white guy gets the chair?

    The death penalty is not really a conservative/liberal issue.
    Or a republican/democrat issue. About 1/3rd of all politicians
    are against the death penalty, for various reasons. Of the
    remaining 2/3rds, some are undecided.

    There is no fair way to administer the death penalty. And it is disproportional. If we acted only on our emotions, it would be easy
    to condemn and pull the switch ourselves. But when we think it out,
    we realize locking them up in prison for the rest of their lives
    is a much better option.

    What will happen when white folks are no longer the majority?
    It is only a matter of time when that happens. Not a question

    That time has already come decades ago in many parts of the USA. I'm a white >guy. I was a minority in New Mexico for 10 years. I got treated like garbage >by hispanics and natives. If I was hispanic, I would've got hired for better >jobs, people would have let their kids play with my kids, I wouldn't have
    been mad-dogged everywhere I went.

    Back in the 1950s, a white journalist decided to make himself black
    by injecting himself with a drug that increased his melanin. He did
    so under doctor supervision, so please do not try that at home. He
    wrote his piece, and came to be known as "Watermelon Man".

    He never would have been accepted in certain places as a white man,
    but was greeted and welcomed as part of the crowd as a black man.

    The song "Watermelon Man" is about this person. Read the lyrics.
    Google it, and read the book. This is not fiction.

    I don't hold it against them though; prejudism is human nature, and it's >everywhere. However, in defense of whites, I must say that my hispanic wife >has not dealt with any obvious racism in the 4 years that we've lived in NY.

    We all make judgements. That is part of our nature. Imagine if we
    accepted everything, without question, and just continued on our merry
    way. That would mean we have no values.

    By what standard should be make judgements? That is a better question.
    Should we choose our friends based solely on the color of their skin?
    Or on what gender they are? Or by what religion they are? Or by what political leanings they have?

    Eye opener? If you're white, stay out of the latino-southwest. Let them live
    their racist lives there, and live your loving non-racist life elsewhere.

    Jesus was black. Had to leave when he was an infant to live in
    another place where he could not be found. It's all in the gospel.
    I mean, Roman soldiers were looking for a little black baby in a
    white neighborhood. In Egypt, it was impossible for Roman soldiers
    to discern which little black baby they were looking for.

    --Lee

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  • From aaron thomas@1:123/525 to Lee Lofaso on Sun Jan 27 21:05:50 2019
    That is common, not just in New York, and has been happening for
    years. Problem is, there are now too few public facilities they can
    go to, as states have closed most of them down due to budget cuts.

    But how do you explain "budget cuts" to a child with little brain function?
    I'm not blaming you, I'm just venting. Shouldn't housing for disabled
    children be a primary function of the state? Like mandatory spending?

    It is a medical condition. Rush Limbaugh had a problem with this,

    I understand and agree, and some people even call it a "disability," but drug addiction isn't something that I have more sympathy for than disabled
    children. I know it's just my opinion, but I think the people of my city or county would agree with me on this. But, we're nobodies.

    Sugar causes tooth decay. Should we ban sugar?
    Pain pills cause addiction. Should we ban pain pills?
    Cigarettes cause cancer. Should we ban cigarettes?

    Banning sugar & cigarettes might work, because who wants to go to prison for smuggling those items?

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  • From aaron thomas@1:123/525 to Lee Lofaso on Sun Jan 27 21:29:55 2019
    It may be necessary to grant them a change in venue in order to
    ensure they get a fair trial. At least that way they will have
    a fighting chance, unlike their victims.

    A change of venue should be in order for many cases, but that's certainly a privilege that not many people get.

    Yet far more black folk are executed than white folk. Especially
    poor black folk. Mostly young single black men, thus keeping
    the birth rate down.

    Poor people can't afford attorneys. I have no more sympathy for black people than for any other race. If a young black man lives in racist white Pennsylvania, and nobody will hire him, he needs to move on down to
    Baltimore, or wherever black people are not a minority. I'm not going to
    apply for work in Mexico and expect Mexicans to hire me (even if I'm the most qualified) because I'm not oblivious to racism.

    Note that no rich man or rich woman is ever executed. Of any race.

    Life isn't fair. Being black in a white or latino state where there's capital punishment, and getting caught up in a punishable by death offense is a dumb mistake.

    Time for change? Like Obama said? Well, this situation will change at about
    the same time as when cats stop chasing mice.

    Look how many women (of both parties) who are serving in Congress
    today. A record high. And that number will continue to grow. At

    Today is the key word - We'll get a female president eventually. I'm not discouraging it. But women haven't had much of a chance to enter politics in the past, so it seems. Perhaps because of all the wars.

    Back in the 1950s, a white journalist decided to make himself black
    by injecting himself with a drug that increased his melanin. He did

    I speak Spanish fluently. Mexicans don't want to speak Spanish with whites though; they hate us no matter what language we speak. Their hatred for us is pretty strong, and it's not worth it to try to make them happy. Was that the guy's point? To make the blacks happy? I will google it..

    In my experiences, black people have been much more accepting of whites compared to Mexicans. Everyone is an individual, of course, but in general, they don't present their hatred to me as much as Mexicans have.

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  • From Gerhard Strangar@2:240/2188.575 to Lee Lofaso on Mon Jan 28 08:07:37 2019
    Am 27 Jan 19 19:53:30 schrob Lee Lofaso an aaron thomas zum Thema
    <Disabled Conservative>

    There are lots more women than men in this country.
    [...]
    Note that no rich man or rich woman is ever executed. Of any race.

    According to Wikipedia around 20.000 men got executed in the USA, but only 400 women. This is very sexist. You need to execute another 19.600 women. ;-)



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  • From Gerhard Strangar@2:240/2188.575 to aaron thomas on Mon Jan 28 08:15:04 2019
    Am 27 Jan 19 21:05:50 schrob aaron thomas an Lee Lofaso zum Thema
    <Re: Disabled Conservative>

    Banning sugar & cigarettes might work, because who wants to go to prison for smuggling those items?

    Smuggling cigarettes is quite common, actually. Not because they are banned anywhere, but because they are taxed differently, so you get charged for tax fraud.
    Banning sugar is impossible, any natural food contains sugar.



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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to aaron thomas on Mon Jan 28 22:33:41 2019
    Hello Aaron,

    That is common, not just in New York, and has been happening for
    years. Problem is, there are now too few public facilities they can
    go to, as states have closed most of them down due to budget cuts.

    But how do you explain "budget cuts" to a child with little brain function? >I'm not blaming you, I'm just venting. Shouldn't housing for disabled >children be a primary function of the state? Like mandatory spending?

    Different department. See foster care.

    It is a medical condition. Rush Limbaugh had a problem with this,

    I understand and agree, and some people even call it a "disability," but
    drug
    addiction isn't something that I have more sympathy for than disabled >children. I know it's just my opinion, but I think the people of my city or >county would agree with me on this. But, we're nobodies.

    Social Security has determined that alcoholism is a disability.
    So why not drug addiction? Or gambling addiction? Or tech addiction?
    I am spending way too much time on fidonet. Do I qualify?

    Sugar causes tooth decay. Should we ban sugar?
    Pain pills cause addiction. Should we ban pain pills?
    Cigarettes cause cancer. Should we ban cigarettes?

    Banning sugar & cigarettes might work, because who wants to go to prison for
    smuggling those items?

    Cigarettes are not banned in prison because doing so would cause
    a riot. If you truly want to make a prisoner happy, give him/her
    a carton of cigarettes. Even if they do not smoke, they will
    thank you profusely, and become your very best friend forever.

    I have been told that cigarettes are more addictive than heroine.
    Which might explain why heroine is never found in prisons.

    --Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to aaron thomas on Mon Jan 28 22:33:46 2019
    Hello Aaron,

    It may be necessary to grant them a change in venue in order to
    ensure they get a fair trial. At least that way they will have
    a fighting chance, unlike their victims.

    A change of venue should be in order for many cases, but that's certainly a
    privilege that not many people get.

    Everybody has the right to a fair trial.

    Yet far more black folk are executed than white folk. Especially
    poor black folk. Mostly young single black men, thus keeping
    the birth rate down.

    Poor people can't afford attorneys.

    Everybody has the right to be represented by an attorney.
    If someone cannot afford an attorney, an attorney will be
    appointed for him/her. At state expense.

    I have no more sympathy for black people than for any other race.

    There are many flaws in our criminal justice system that need
    to be corrected. Until those flaws are corrected, the system will
    remain unfair for many people. Not just black people.

    If a young black man lives in racist white Pennsylvania, and nobody will
    hire him, he needs to move on down to Baltimore, or wherever black people
    are not a minority.

    At the turn of the century many Sicilians and Italians emigrated
    to Louisiana, settling in New Orleans. The women stayed home, since
    they could speak only Italian, and took care of the kids. The few
    women who worked, or wanted to work, sold vegetables at the Farmer's
    Market in the French Quarter. The only place the men could find
    work was at the docks, loading and unloading freight. Hardest
    job in the world. The only men willing and able to do it being
    Italians and blacks. Working side by side.

    There were so many Sicilians and Italians in New Orleans during
    this period that the largest macaroni factory in the world was built.
    The building is still standing today, although it is a hotel rather
    than a macaroni factory.

    The city of New Orleans has an international flavor, with many
    races and cultures present. My great-grandfather emigrated to the
    US, and settled in New Orleans. He then returned to Italy and
    returned to New Orleans with my grandfather, who was just a baby
    when he arrived. It took him a while to get his entire family
    to New Orleans (my great-grandparents had 13 kids). I mean,
    what else can you expect Sicilians to do on an island with no
    work to do?

    I'm not going to apply for work in Mexico and expect Mexicans to hire me
    (even if I'm the most qualified) because I'm not oblivious to racism.

    When in Mexico you have to learn how to take a siesta.
    It is part of the job training.

    Note that no rich man or rich woman is ever executed. Of any race.

    Life isn't fair.

    JFK said that. He was right.

    Being black in a white or latino state where there's capital
    punishment, and getting caught up in a punishable by death offense is a dumb
    mistake.

    Not all states have the death penalty. Not that the death penalty
    has any real effect or deterrence. Better to just put the perps who
    do the crime in jail for the rest of their lives and be done with it.
    Save the taxpayers a lot of dough, and fewer appeals.

    Time for change? Like Obama said? Well, this situation will change at about
    the same time as when cats stop chasing mice.

    Is that possible?

    Look how many women (of both parties) who are serving in Congress >LL>today. A record high. And that number will continue to grow. At

    Today is the key word - We'll get a female president eventually.

    If not now, then when?

    People said the same thing about Barack Obama when he announced his
    candidacy for president. We'll get a black president eventually.

    I wonder what those folks are saying now that Kamala Harris has
    officially announced her candidacy for president? Some folks are
    proclaiming her as being "the female Obama" - expecting her to
    be The One who will save us all ...

    I'm not discouraging it. But women haven't had much of a chance to enter
    politics in the past, so it seems. Perhaps because of all the wars.

    Hillary Rodham Clinton
    Elizabeth Dole
    Barbara Boxer
    Maria Cantwell
    Susan Collins
    Dianne Feinstein
    Kay Bailey Hutchison
    Mary Landrieu
    Blanche Lincoln
    Barbara Mikulski
    Lisa Murkowski
    Patty Murray
    Olympia Snowe
    Debbie Stabenow

    14 women. US Senators. And that was yesterday's news.
    Today there are more. A lot more. With at least 4 women
    officially announcing their own candidacies for president
    of the United States.

    They are taking over. Before you know it, us guys will
    be taking orders from them. Not the other way around.

    So get used to it. It will happen. Sooner, rather than later.

    Back in the 1950s, a white journalist decided to make himself black
    by injecting himself with a drug that increased his melanin. He did

    I speak Spanish fluently.

    Hispanics define themselves by language rather than by race.
    So why does the US Census bureau have two questions for Hispanics -
    one for white Hispanics, and one for non-white Hispanics? Which
    box do you think Hispanics want to check?

    Mexicans don't want to speak Spanish with whites though; they hate us no
    matter what language we speak.

    Blacks in African define themselves differently than blacks in the US.
    In Africa, those who are not black are white. For example, if a black
    person in Africa is of mixed race, say has one parent who is white,
    then he/she is not black but white. In the US, Barack Obama is black,
    even though he is mixed race (black father, white mother).

    Hispanics do not view race as a factor. They define themselves
    by language, regardless of race. There are black Mexicans.
    But since they speak Spanish, they are Hispanic. Same as white
    Mexicans. Unnerstan'?

    The common factor for all is learning the fine art of the siesta.
    Those who master it are Hispanic. Those who flunk are hated and
    despised, and usually asked to leave.

    Their hatred for us is pretty strong, and it's not worth it to try to make
    them happy.

    Hispanics take their siesta very seriously, dude. You really should
    never awaken or disturb them in any way during this time ...

    Was that the guy's point? To make the blacks happy? I will google it..

    Blacks want to be white. The journalist wanted to find out why.

    In my experiences, black people have been much more accepting of whites >compared to Mexicans. Everyone is an individual, of course, but in general, >they don't present their hatred to me as much as Mexicans have.

    Wait `til Mexicans learn gangzta rap ...

    --Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to Gerhard Strangar on Mon Jan 28 22:33:52 2019
    Hello Gerhard,

    <Disabled Conservative>

    There are lots more women than men in this country.
    [...]
    Note that no rich man or rich woman is ever executed. Of any race.

    According to Wikipedia around 20.000 men got executed in the USA, but only 400 women. This is very sexist. You need to execute another 19.600 women.
    ;-)

    Lawyers. Women hire lawyers. They've cornered the market.
    Men better be careful `lest they become extinct.

    --Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to SETH HURST on Mon Jan 28 22:33:57 2019
    Hello Seth,

    Well its how I was raised and the fact that you would want to rely on
    the GOV really shows me that your a follower and not a leader. Just
    because I'm blind doesn't mean I have to think with the groupthink of
    the blind.

    The recent government shutdown showed us all how dependent we all
    are, having to rely on government for services most of us never
    realize we have until they are no longer there. For example,
    everybody needs to eat, and we all go to get groceries to restock
    our supplies. But who checks to make sure our food is safe to eat?
    That's right. The federal government is responsible for hiring
    inspectors to inspect our food so that we do not get sick and die.

    It would be nice if we could all grow our own food and live off
    the land. But who has the time for that? And who would want to
    work that hard, even if they could? Farming is hard. Much easier
    to just go to the store and buy what you need or want.

    Roughly half of all Americans receive benefits of some kind.
    That does not mean that all benefits are welfare. For example,
    SNAP (food stamps) are available so that every American can
    afford to provide a healthy and balanced meal for their family.
    That is not welfare.

    Programs such as social security and medicare are not welfare,
    but entitlements. Like social security, social security disability
    is an entitlement, with no income limits. Earned benefits, not
    something that is simply given for the hell of it.

    Although SSI is technically not welfare, it really is since funds
    are drawn from the Department of the Treasury. There are income
    limits (no more than $2000), and recipients are also limited to
    earning no more than $65 per month. In addition, SSI recipients
    are not allowed to own much of anything. No health insurance
    is included, although medicaid is part of the deal.

    There is dignity in work. But why work when you don't have to?
    Most elderly choose to retire at a certain age and collect their
    social security, with medicare included. Why should they work
    `til they drop? Why would anybody want to?

    The economy is for the person. Not the other way around. Does
    the world owe me a living? As Sarah Palin would say, "You betcha!"

    So do yourself a favor. Grab whatever you can get. Now rather
    than later. You'll be glad you did.

    --Lee

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  • From aaron thomas@1:123/525 to Gerhard Strangar on Mon Jan 28 14:27:32 2019
    According to Wikipedia around 20.000 men got executed in the USA, but
    only 400 women. This is very sexist. You need to execute another 19.600 women. ;-)


    I think Michelle Obama said something about wanting equal rights for women; maybe she outta sign up for this.

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  • From aaron thomas@1:123/525 to Lee Lofaso on Mon Jan 28 21:35:31 2019
    a riot. If you truly want to make a prisoner happy, give him/her

    I'd rather give them a faster death.

    Which might explain why heroine is never found in prisons.

    Are you using CNN's researchers for this info? :)

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  • From aaron thomas@1:123/525 to Lee Lofaso on Mon Jan 28 21:57:44 2019
    Everybody has the right to a fair trial.

    Except for those people who can't afford their own atty..

    If someone cannot afford an attorney, an attorney will be

    They get what they paid for.

    At the turn of the century many Sicilians and Italians emigrated

    This is interesting! LA has always been mysterious to me. I like what you're saying about it being diverse; I used to know a lady from New Orleans who was very sweet to me.

    When in Mexico you have to learn how to take a siesta.

    I don't think they do that after they move on up to New Mexico; maybe that's the problem- they're tired n cranky. Are you sure that siestas aren't only in Spain? My wife is from Panama & said they don't do that there.

    You may be on to something! I have a horrible anxiety problem, and maybe a
    nap towards the end of the day could help.

    I wonder what those folks are saying now that Kamala Harris has

    Here's some folktalk for you: I don't know a lot about her, but she was very annoying during the Senate hearing for the rapey guy; the way she was whispering in Cory Booker's ear so much. I kinda wish she'd whisper something sweet into my ear, but I'm not Spartacus :)

    proclaiming her as being "the female Obama" - expecting her to
    be The One who will save us all ...

    If Trump gets his wall, will she tear it down? To save all us illegals?

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to LEE LOFASO on Mon Jan 28 20:19:00 2019
    Tech addiction. I think that is the root cause of why
    the world is like it is today.

    With the internet, we have all become our own experts.
    On everything. We can diagnose our own selves, and find
    out what is wrong with us. And then have plausible
    deniability when we find that we are right and everybody
    else is wrong.

    What will we do without the internet? We would all be lost.
    Truly lost, not knowing a thing about anything ...

    Not only are we our own experts, but we also have less patience when it
    comes to obtaining things like information. Most folks are going to choose from one of the first choices that comes up in a google search. If that
    choice happens to be from a less-than-reliable source, so be it.

    I did just fine back in the days of encyclopedias, libraries, and reputable news outlets. It would be tougher now, I think, because those things are
    much more difficult to find/access than they used to be.

    Mike

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to aaron thomas on Tue Jan 29 17:22:24 2019
    Hello Aaron,

    According to Wikipedia around 20.000 men got executed in the USA, but >GS>only 400 women. This is very sexist. You need to execute another 19.600 >GS>women. ;-)


    I think Michelle Obama said something about wanting equal rights for women; >maybe she outta sign up for this.

    She's a lawyer. And a very good public defender. Just look
    at the great job she did for her husband.

    --Lee

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  • From aaron thomas@1:123/525 to Lee Lofaso on Tue Jan 29 18:55:49 2019
    She's a lawyer. And a very good public defender. Just look
    at the great job she did for her husband.

    There's some truth to that, but, you're sugarcoating pure evil!

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to LEE LOFASO on Tue Jan 29 17:47:00 2019
    care. Until this country does away with its healthcare for profit
    system, problems will remain for lots of folks. Not just those
    who are dependent on welfare, but for everybody.

    I disagree with "for everybody." Something else I learned in Canada is
    that, despite what the US politicians claim, single-payer is not
    "immediate" care and, like the right will tell us, they really do not cover some things that private plans will.

    I have a so-so private plan from my employer. I have never had to wait for care, beyond waiting for an open appointment. I must also admit I have
    never had anything major done.

    While I was in Canada, I talked to a couple who lived in small town that
    was several hours away from any large metropolitan area. The government
    had sent them a letter telling them that, because of their age, if they
    wanted the government to continue to supply medical care for them, that
    they would need to move to Toronto... a long ways away from the North Shore
    of Lake Superior, where they loved being. I was there, it was a nice place
    if you like nature and gorgeous views of a beautiful lake. I could see why they loved it.

    They told the government not to worry about it because, when they retire,
    they plan to move to Florida and use the US private care system, which they claimed would be better than what they had (they had lived in the USA for a while before and were familiar with care here vs. there).

    If Kamala gets her way, we won't have a private system anymore. They may
    wind up retired in Toronto.

    A couple of days later, I ran into a Canadian-born US Army veteran. He
    joined the US Army instead of the Canadian one because he wanted to see
    more of the world. His kids are dual-citizens, and most of them choose to
    live in the US. Now, we are always being told about how horrible our VA medical system is. He lives in Canada, and has the right to use their government-funded system. However, he was on his way to the states because
    the VA medical system is better than the government system in Canada, although it is not as good as the private policies that his US-living kids have (his paraphrased words).

    If Kamala gets her way, I guess he will still have his VA benefits to fall
    back on, but his kids will be up a creek (unless they can use his VA benefits... then they will only be part-way up it).

    Democrats don't like private health care because they do not like anyone
    who makes more money than they do, unless they donate enough of it to their campaigns. Hence why they usually don't like the medical profession but
    love union bosses and ambulance-chasing lawyers.

    The only thing government care is good for is for people who cannot get it
    any other way. It is a good safety-net, but that is all... if eveyone has
    to fall into it, it will break.

    Mike

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to LEE LOFASO on Tue Jan 29 19:45:00 2019
    That is common, not just in New York, and has been happening for >LL>years. Problem is, there are now too few public facilities they can >LL>go to, as states have closed most of them down due to budget cuts.

    But how do you explain "budget cuts" to a child with little brain function? >I'm not blaming you, I'm just venting. Shouldn't housing for disabled >children be a primary function of the state? Like mandatory spending?

    Different department. See foster care.

    In many states, like mine, mental health, child support, foster care, vital stats, and others are all going to be the same state cabinet.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to Mike Powell on Thu Jan 31 01:06:11 2019
    Hello Mike,

    Tech addiction. I think that is the root cause of why
    the world is like it is today.

    With the internet, we have all become our own experts.
    On everything. We can diagnose our own selves, and find
    out what is wrong with us. And then have plausible
    deniability when we find that we are right and everybody
    else is wrong.

    What will we do without the internet? We would all be lost.
    Truly lost, not knowing a thing about anything ...

    Not only are we our own experts, but we also have less patience when it
    comes to obtaining things like information. Most folks are going to choose >from one of the first choices that comes up in a google search. If that >choice happens to be from a less-than-reliable source, so be it.

    Instant gratification. Google it and have your answer within seconds.
    You'll know it's true because you found it on the internet. No need
    to ask experts, as Mr. Google knows all.

    I did just fine back in the days of encyclopedias, libraries, and reputable >news outlets. It would be tougher now, I think, because those things are >much more difficult to find/access than they used to be.

    Yeah. Nobody knows how to use those ancient tomes anymore.
    Much too bulky and hard to find. Probably kept in some vault
    underneath the subways of NYC. Besides, it's all on Google.

    --Lee

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