• vudu island progress

    From Tony Master@1:218/530 to All on Mon Oct 17 22:58:24 2016
    ok i have finished the tiki bar. in it you can ask me to recite a poem, talk to trader sam or converse with the people in the game. working on lord colors as well as pipe in it. by the time you read this it will be implemented. you will only be able to ask for a poem a day soon and also now that im done with the tiki bar i am gonna add maintenance to be ran on the first play of the day to update players daily fights etc....

    after that i will start work work on armor and shields aka buy and sell.
    still looking for ansi artist to help enhance the look. come play and see how
    i have it set up.

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Tony Master on Tue Oct 18 09:40:12 2016

    17 Oct 16 22:58, you wrote to All:

    now that im done with the tiki bar i am gonna add maintenance to be
    ran on the first play of the day to update players daily fights
    etc....

    why do they do this? maint on the first run of the day? why not just let the sysop run the maint every day no matter if there have been players playing or not? they can run it at midnight (or whenever) when they run their normal BBS maint... i've never understood this in these last 30 years...

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  • From Richard Miles@1:3634/24 to mark lewis on Tue Oct 18 18:26:56 2016
    On 10/18/16, mark lewis said the following...

    why do they do this? maint on the first run of the day? why not just let the sysop run the maint every day no matter if there have been players


    I tend to agree. If given a choice when setting up a door I will always
    choose to run maint from a batch file rather than automatic when the first player enters. I don't play a lot of games but it's still a pita.

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  • From Tony Master@1:218/530 to mark lewis on Tue Oct 18 17:20:19 2016
    On 10/18/16, mark lewis said the following...
    why do they do this? maint on the first run of the day? why not just let the sysop run the maint every day no matter if there have been players playing or not? they can run it at midnight (or whenever) when they run their normal BBS maint... i've never understood this in these last 30 years...

    then you have to be at your computer every night at midnight. this is called automating and this is how you reset your fights for the day and bring people back from the dead.

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  • From Tony Master@1:218/530 to Richard Miles on Tue Oct 18 17:21:21 2016
    On 10/18/16, Richard Miles said the following...
    why do they do this? maint on the first run of the day? why not just the sysop run the maint every day no matter if there have been player
    I tend to agree. If given a choice when setting up a door I will always choose to run maint from a batch file rather than automatic when the
    first player enters. I don't play a lot of games but it's still a pita.

    ok then how will this batch file reset a data file with variables?

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Tony Master on Tue Oct 18 22:40:30 2016

    18 Oct 16 17:20, you wrote to me:

    why do they do this? maint on the first run of the day? why not just
    let the sysop run the maint every day no matter if there have been
    players playing or not? they can run it at midnight (or whenever)
    when they run their normal BBS maint... i've never understood this in
    these last 30 years...

    then you have to be at your computer every night at midnight.

    your BBS doesn't have an automated scheduler that can run BAT files? mine does and always has... my mailer, frontdoor, actually exits all nodes at midnight (or whenever scheduled) and drops to the main controller BAT file which then executes the midnight maint...

    this is called automating and this is how you reset your fights for
    the day and bring people back from the dead.

    that's easily done by providing a command line parameter to execute it at will instead of waiting until some user decides to play which may be days or weeks later... all of my TW2002 games, for example, run their maint every night whether i'm here or not... they rebuild the ports that have been robbed and increase the NCPs all on their own... even my netrunner cyberpunk door refreshes and rebuilds on its own every night during midnight maint...

    you're not thinking things through, my friend ;)

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Tony Master on Tue Oct 18 22:45:12 2016

    18 Oct 16 17:21, you wrote to Richard Miles:

    why do they do this? maint on the first run of the day? why not
    just
    the sysop run the maint every day no matter if there have been
    player I tend to agree. If given a choice when setting up a door I
    will always choose to run maint from a batch file rather than
    automatic when the first player enters. I don't play a lot of games
    but it's still a pita.

    ok then how will this batch file reset a data file with variables?

    because it runs the maint tool for the door or executes the door with a specific option to run the maint... the tool/door keeps up with what day it is and when the maint was last run... it isn't rocket science :)

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  • From Tony Master@1:218/530 to mark lewis on Tue Oct 18 23:29:09 2016
    On 10/18/16, mark lewis said the following...
    you're not thinking things through, my friend ;)

    this is a mpl

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  • From Tony Master@1:218/530 to mark lewis on Tue Oct 18 23:30:08 2016
    On 10/18/16, mark lewis said the following...
    because it runs the maint tool for the door or executes the door with a specific option to run the maint... the tool/door keeps up with what day it is and when the maint was last run... it isn't rocket science :)

    dude, why would i do that for an mpl?

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  • From Richard Miles@1:3634/24 to Tony Master on Wed Oct 19 05:48:14 2016
    On 10/18/16, Tony Master said the following...

    ok then how will this batch file reset a data file with variables?


    All of that I would guess would be the responsibility of the maintenance program or commandline it's calling. Doesn't necessarily have to be called
    from a batch. I guess it's a bit harder with an MPL since it can't be called from Mystic's events so running it the way you are is probably the only way.

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Tony Master on Wed Oct 19 07:53:38 2016

    18 Oct 16 23:29, you wrote to me:

    you're not thinking things through, my friend ;)

    this is a mpl

    so what? that shouldn't matter in the least...

    in any case, i was only asking WHY it is ever done instead of having a specific
    mode that can be triggered when the BBS maint is run...

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Tony Master on Wed Oct 19 07:55:30 2016

    18 Oct 16 23:30, you wrote to me:

    because it runs the maint tool for the door or executes the door with
    a specific option to run the maint... the tool/door keeps up with
    what day it is and when the maint was last run... it isn't rocket
    science :)

    dude, why would i do that for an mpl?

    why belittle an MPL? it is just as strong and powerful as other languages... shoot, i've got 4DOS/4OS2 scripts (aka BAT files) that do exactly that type of thing saving the last run date/time and comparing it with the current date/time
    to see if they can actually perform their work or if they have been called too soon... but whatever...

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Richard Miles on Wed Oct 19 07:58:08 2016

    19 Oct 16 05:48, you wrote to Tony Master:

    ok then how will this batch file reset a data file with variables?

    All of that I would guess would be the responsibility of the
    maintenance program or commandline it's calling. Doesn't necessarily
    have to be called from a batch. I guess it's a bit harder with an MPL since it can't be called from Mystic's events so running it the way
    you are is probably the only way.

    i do recall there being a way... we can jump from the editor into the bbs running the script without having to do the whole sign-in and go through all the normal login steps... it seems to me that that same method can be used to run a MPL door maint session, too ;)

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  • From Tony Master@1:218/530 to Richard Miles on Wed Oct 19 23:16:29 2016
    On 10/19/16, Richard Miles said the following...
    ok then how will this batch file reset a data file with variables?
    All of that I would guess would be the responsibility of the maintenance program or commandline it's calling. Doesn't necessarily have to be
    called from a batch. I guess it's a bit harder with an MPL since it
    can't be called from Mystic's events so running it the way you are is probably the only way.

    notice Seth never made one for LoRD it did it when you entered the game so
    it could reset the igms and update player file for a new day. its not like
    it takes forever like in usurper lol

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  • From Tony Master@1:218/530 to mark lewis on Wed Oct 19 23:22:38 2016
    On 10/19/16, mark lewis said the following...
    so what? that shouldn't matter in the least...
    in any case, i was only asking WHY it is ever done instead of having a specific mode that can be triggered when the BBS maint is run...

    i guess it's a coders preoperative. it only take 3 seconds to run for me, so
    i don't see why i should. not all sysops do a bbs maintenance

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  • From Richard Miles@1:3634/24 to Tony Master on Thu Oct 20 19:49:41 2016
    On 10/19/16, Tony Master said the following...

    not like it takes forever like in usurper lol


    Yeah, that's the biggest one I was thinking about.

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