• showing off

    From Maurice Kinal@2:280/464.113 to Benny Pedersen on Mon May 4 14:40:20 2020
    Hey Benny!

    -={ '<Esc>:read !cat /proc/version' starts }=-
    Linux version 5.7.0-rc3 (root@bitskii) (gcc version 10.0.1 20200430 (prerelease) (GCC), GNU ld (GNU Binutils) 2.34) #1 SMP Mon May 4 07:13:00 UTC 2020
    -={ '<Esc>:read !cat /proc/version' ends }=-

    That pretty well much says it all except;

    -={ '<Esc>:read !/lib/libc.so.6' starts }=-
    GNU C Library (GNU libc) stable release version 2.31.
    Copyright (C) 2020 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
    This is free software; see the source for copying conditions.
    There is NO warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A
    PARTICULAR PURPOSE.
    Compiled by GNU CC version 10.0.1 20200430 (prerelease).
    libc ABIs: UNIQUE IFUNC ABSOLUTE
    For bug reporting instructions, please see: <https://www.gnu.org/software/libc/bugs.html>.
    -={ '<Esc>:read !/lib/libc.so.6' ends }=-

    Although it boots successfully it isn't ready for primetime yet. More importantly, still no penguins but inteldrmfb still works despite this setback.

    Life is good,
    Maurice

    ... Don't cry for me I have vi.
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    * Origin: Little Mikey's EuroPoint - Ladysmith BC, Canada (2:280/464.113)
  • From Maurice Kinal@1:153/7001 to Maurice Kinal on Mon May 4 22:15:13 2020
    Hey Maurice!

    Although it boots successfully it isn't ready for primetime yet.

    Agreed. Too many base packages require a gcc-10 patch as of this writing. It is doable though but will wait until both gcc-10 and linux-5.7 become official releases, which should be soon-ish.

    Life is good,
    Maurice

    ... Don't cry for me I have vi.
    --- GNU bash, version 5.0.16(1)-release (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu)
    * Origin: Little Mikey's Brain - Ladysmith BC, Canada (1:153/7001)
  • From Benny Pedersen@2:230/0 to Maurice Kinal on Sat May 9 11:50:16 2020
    Hello Maurice!

    04 May 2020 14:40, Maurice Kinal wrote to Benny Pedersen:

    -={ '<Esc>:read !cat /proc/version' starts }=-
    Linux version 5.7.0-rc3 (root@bitskii) (gcc version 10.0.1 20200430 (prerelease) (GCC), GNU ld (GNU Binutils) 2.34) #1 SMP Mon May 4
    07:13:00 UTC 2020
    -={ '<Esc>:read !cat /proc/version' ends }=-

    nice to see it

    That pretty well much says it all except;

    -={ '<Esc>:read !/lib/libc.so.6' starts }=-
    GNU C Library (GNU libc) stable release version 2.31.
    -={ '<Esc>:read !/lib/libc.so.6' ends }=-

    only 2.30 is stable on gentoo, all older is masked

    2.31 is still unstable

    Although it boots successfully it isn't ready for primetime yet. More importantly, still no penguins but inteldrmfb still works despite this setback.

    you may be gentoo developper before i die :)


    Regards Benny

    ... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

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  • From Maurice Kinal@2:280/464.113 to Benny Pedersen on Sat May 9 14:29:14 2020
    Hallo Benny!

    only 2.30 is stable on gentoo, all older is masked
    2.31 is still unstable

    Same situation with slackware-current.

    you may be gentoo developper before i die :)

    I have my doubts but I certainly don't have anything against gentoo. I've noticed they have gcc-10 patches already and gcc-10.1 was only released the other day.

    -={ ye olde cut n' paste starts }=-
    # gcc --version
    gcc (GCC) 10.1.0
    Copyright (C) 2020 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
    This is free software; see the source for copying conditions. There is NO warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.
    -={ ye olde cut n' paste ends }=-

    The above is from a chrooted toolchain I am working on. It also has glibc-2.31 but a stock linux-4.6.11 kernel (not booted yet) instead of the 4.7-rc3 kernel that I previously posted about.

    Also the neighbour and I were playing around with a busybox/bash enviroment for android devices the other day and I noticed utf8 characters work. I think it would make an excellent enviroment for a WeBeBashing fidonet thingy.

    Also, also we couldn't find the mc app you brought up in a previous post. Care to share where it can be obtained?

    Het leven is goed,
    Maurice

    ... Huil niet om mij, ik heb vi.
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  • From Maurice Kinal@1:153/7001 to Maurice Kinal on Sat May 9 15:14:43 2020
    Hey Maurice!

    a stock linux-4.6.11 kernel

    That should be linux-5.6.11.

    Life is good,
    Maurice

    ... Don't cry for me I have vi.
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    * Origin: Little Mikey's Brain - Ladysmith BC, Canada (1:153/7001)
  • From Nicholas Boel@1:154/10 to Maurice Kinal on Sat May 9 10:27:40 2020
    Hello Maurice,

    On Sat May 09 2020 15:14:42, Maurice Kinal wrote to Maurice Kinal:

    That should be linux-5.6.11.

    5.6.11-arch1-1 #1 SMP PREEMPT Wed, 06 May 2020 17:32:37 +0000 x86_64 GNU/Linux

    Close enough. ;)

    Regards,
    Nick

    ... "Take my advice, I don't use it anyway."
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  • From Maurice Kinal@1:153/7001 to Nicholas Boel on Sat May 9 10:48:38 2020
    Hey Nicholas!

    5.6.11-arch1-1 #1 SMP PREEMPT Wed, 06 May 2020 17:32:37 +0000 x86_64 GNU/Linux

    I wasn't quite ready to boot this one but you've forced my hand.

    -={ '<Esc>:read !cat /proc/version' starts }=-
    Linux version 5.6.11 (root@bitskii) (gcc version 10.1.0 (GCC)) #1 SMP Thu May 7 19:48:05 UTC 2020
    -={ '<Esc>:read !cat /proc/version' ends }=-

    Close enough. ;)

    I am betting this one is closer to the virgin source that can be found at any kernel.org mirror.

    For the record;
    -={ '<Esc>:read !/lib/libc.so.6' starts }=-
    GNU C Library (GNU libc) stable release version 2.31.
    Copyright (C) 2020 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
    This is free software; see the source for copying conditions.
    There is NO warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A
    PARTICULAR PURPOSE.
    Compiled by GNU CC version 10.1.0.
    libc ABIs: UNIQUE IFUNC ABSOLUTE
    For bug reporting instructions, please see: <https://www.gnu.org/software/libc/bugs.html>.
    -={ '<Esc>:read !/lib/libc.so.6' ends }=-

    Life is good,
    Maurice

    ... Don't cry for me I have vi.
    --- GNU bash, version 5.0.17(1)-release (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu)
    * Origin: Little Mikey's Brain - Ladysmith BC, Canada (1:153/7001)
  • From Maurice Kinal@2:280/464.113 to Maurice Kinal on Sat May 9 18:07:04 2020
    Hallo Maurice!

    I wasn't quite ready to boot this one but you've forced my hand.

    From this angle it appears that all it is missing is the reply kludge.

    Het leven is goed,
    Maurice

    ... Huil niet om mij, ik heb vi.
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    * Origin: Little Mikey's EuroPoint - Ladysmith BC, Canada (2:280/464.113)
  • From Maurice Kinal@1:153/7001 to Nicholas Boel on Sat May 9 18:06:13 2020
    Hey Nicholas!

    Let's try this again except this time there should be a reply kludge. I wasn't quite ready the last time I replied to this message.

    Life is good,
    Maurice

    ... Don't cry for me I have vi.
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    * Origin: Little Mikey's Brain - Ladysmith BC, Canada (1:153/7001)
  • From Maurice Kinal@2:280/464.113 to Maurice Kinal on Sat May 9 19:08:23 2020
    Hey Maurice!

    This time for sure;

    @REPLY: 1:154/10 5eb6cc08
    @MSGID: 1:153/7001 5eb75385

    Life is good,
    Maurice

    ... Don't cry for me I have vi.
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  • From Nicholas Boel@1:154/10 to Maurice Kinal on Sat May 9 22:14:52 2020
    Hello Maurice,

    On Sat May 09 2020 10:48:38, Maurice Kinal wrote to Nicholas Boel:

    I wasn't quite ready to boot this one but you've forced my hand.

    I had to. ;)

    -={ '<Esc>:read !cat /proc/version' starts }=-
    Linux version 5.6.11 (root@bitskii) (gcc version 10.1.0 (GCC)) #1 SMP
    Thu May 7 19:48:05 UTC 2020 -={ '<Esc>:read !cat /proc/version' ends
    }=-

    Close enough. ;)

    I am betting this one is closer to the virgin source that can be found
    at any kernel.org mirror.

    I'd have to agree. However, how long did it take to compile? Mine took about 30 seconds and I was off doing other things.

    Regards,
    Nick

    ... "Take my advice, I don't use it anyway."
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    * Origin: thePharcyde_ distribution system (Wisconsin) (1:154/10)
  • From Maurice Kinal@1:153/7001 to Nicholas Boel on Sun May 10 03:58:29 2020
    Hey Nicholas!

    I'd have to agree. However, how long did it take to compile?

    I haven't timed it recently but I do know for sure that it was longer than 30 seconds.

    Mine took about 30 seconds and I was off doing other things.

    Is that is from clean source?

    Life is good,
    Maurice

    ... Don't cry for me I have vi.
    --- GNU bash, version 5.0.16(1)-release (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu)
    * Origin: Little Mikey's Brain - Ladysmith BC, Canada (1:153/7001)
  • From Benny Pedersen@2:230/0 to Maurice Kinal on Sun May 10 09:43:36 2020
    Hello Maurice!

    09 May 2020 14:29, Maurice Kinal wrote to Benny Pedersen:

    Also, also we couldn't find the mc app you brought up in a previous
    post. Care to share where it can be obtained?

    in google play get Termux

    open it, type

    pkg install mc

    got it ?

    pkg upgrade

    now you can play with all kind of things even make your own husky run in Termux, moha :)

    binkd you have the sources, only problem i see is missing is if you uninstall termux, all installed is deleted, could be nice to make a tarball in termux api so one can use it on another phone/tablet where termux is supported on


    Regards Benny

    ... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

    --- Msged/LNX 6.1.2 (Linux/5.6.11-gentoo-x86_64 (x86_64))
    * Origin: I will always keep a PC running CPM 3.0 (2:230/0)
  • From Maurice Kinal@2:280/464.113 to Benny Pedersen on Sun May 10 07:35:29 2020
    Hallo Benny!

    in google play get Termux

    I found it on a search but the neighbour decided he didn't want it afterall due to the small screen on his smartphone. I ended up installing it on a 10" tablet which looks way better. I think it would be better with a bluetooth keyboard rather than the virtual one.

    pkg install mc
    got it ?

    I do now. I showed the neighbour and he was impressed except not enough to install it on his smartphone due to the small display. I don't blame him. Myself I don't have a use for it.

    now you can play with all kind of things even make your own
    husky run in Termux, moha :)

    First binkd but it will have to be done with clang since termux dropped support for gcc in favour of llvm. I'll try it later once I work out a few kinks and port this bash script over to it. First binkd though.

    could be nice to make a tarball in termux api so one can use it
    on another phone/tablet where termux is supported on

    We could try that if you want. I'll first see what "pkg install llvm" brings to the table. Personally I would have gone with a gcc/glibc enviroment but I'll try clang which will be more in sync with all things termux.

    Het leven is goed,
    Maurice

    ... Huil niet om mij, ik heb vi.
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    * Origin: Little Mikey's EuroPoint - Ladysmith BC, Canada (2:280/464.113)
  • From Maurice Kinal@1:153/7001 to Maurice Kinal on Sun May 10 09:26:27 2020
    Hey Maurice!

    "pkg install llvm"

    Change it to "pkg install clang". That works and "binkd -vv" outputs;

    Binkd 1.1a-104 (May 10 2020 08:38:37/Linux)
    Compilation flags: clang.
    Facilities: fts5004 ipv6

    While I am at it "ldd binkd" reports;

    libdl.so
    libc.so

    Now I just have to configure and get it working on the tablet over it's wireless connection. I figure a point system would be best.

    Life is good,
    Maurice

    ... Don't cry for me I have vi.
    --- GNU bash, version 5.0.17(1)-release (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu)
    * Origin: Little Mikey's Brain - Ladysmith BC, Canada (1:153/7001)
  • From Benny Pedersen@2:230/0 to Maurice Kinal on Tue May 12 13:11:32 2020
    Hello Maurice!

    10 May 2020 09:26, Maurice Kinal wrote to Maurice Kinal:

    "pkg install llvm"

    Change it to "pkg install clang". That works and "binkd -vv" outputs;

    you can possible precompile into the pkg repo ?

    so its just

    pkg install binkd

    Binkd 1.1a-104 (May 10 2020 08:38:37/Linux)
    Compilation flags: clang.
    Facilities: fts5004 ipv6

    nice

    While I am at it "ldd binkd" reports;

    libdl.so
    libc.so

    more minimal then what i have on gentoo :)

    Now I just have to configure and get it working on the tablet over
    it's wireless connection. I figure a point system would be best.

    my huawei p30 pro have hdmi via usb dongle, then i have a 49" monitor to all kind of things, put the phone in desktop mode its not a dream :)

    the phone have 4k @ 60 fps, not many pc's can do this yet

    Life is good,

    life is not a dream, its real


    Regards Benny

    ... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

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    * Origin: I will always keep a PC running CPM 3.0 (2:230/0)
  • From Maurice Kinal@2:280/464.113 to Benny Pedersen on Tue May 12 09:29:49 2020
    Hallo Benny!

    you can possible precompile into the pkg repo ?
    so its just
    pkg install binkd

    That is the goal but at the moment I am still working out the enviroment variables etc. and as you can see from "Facilities: fts5004 ipv6" and "ldd binkd" both zlib and bzip2 support are lacking at the moment. I do have both those pkgs installed so I figure I am missing vital information for the linker as to where the libraries and includes are now kept.

    more minimal then what i have on gentoo :)

    Yes. However it is missing the on-the-fly compression. I am not sure how important the really is but it would be nice if any termux apps we add will have the same capabilities as a GNU/Linux enviroment has. No?

    my huawei p30 pro have hdmi via usb dongle, then i have a 49"
    monitor to all kind of things, put the phone in desktop mode its
    not a dream :)

    I know, I have seen similar here. The 10" tablet I am currently using to achieve a working termux deveopment enviroment lacks that but no matter since it isn't anything of interest to me at the moment. It is a cheap way to get this idea off the ground. Anyhow it has a 2GHz quad core ARM processor with 2G of ram which looks to be capable of achieving the plan for it.

    the phone have 4k @ 60 fps, not many pc's can do this yet

    I have an external hdmi capture device that can handle it. So far I haven't used it for much and may end up selling/trading it for something I might find useful to me. In the meantime I have some troubleshooting to do in order to get zlib/bzip2 support into binkd. After that if we decide to port the Husky stuff then it *should* be ready for that, especially linking the dependencies hpt will require (smapi, fidoconfig, etc). Also msged and perhaps a golded port. Myself I am planning to use the vim I managed to install via "pkg install vim" and give meaning to, "Græd ikke for mig, jeg har vi." :-)

    Het leven is goed,
    Maurice

    ... Huil niet om mij, ik heb vi.
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