Subject: BBS affected by Internet Fast Lanes?
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Hey guys,

I am new here and have a question regarding bulletin board systems. The president is now fully supporting net neutrality which I think is a good thing and it is upsetting the ISPs. However, if the next president likes the ISPs and wants Internet Fast Lanes, will that really affect BBS? Is the BBS invulnerable to these ISPs since this technology has been around for decades and from the BBS documentry I saw, we are talking only needing baud speed connections. Not to mention that BBS like this one aren't graphical so how would say Comcast or COX put up warning images to make you pay more to view more pages?

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Re: BBS affected by Internet Fast Lanes?
By: physalis17 to All on Wed Nov 12 2014 07:59 am

Hey guys,

I am new here and have a question regarding bulletin board systems. The president is now fully supporting net neutrality which I think is a good thi and it is upsetting the ISPs. However, if the next president likes the ISPs wants Internet Fast Lanes, will that really affect BBS? Is the BBS invulnera to these ISPs since this technology has been around for decades and from the BBS documentry I saw, we are talking only needing baud speed connections. No to mention that BBS like this one aren't graphical so how would say Comcast COX put up warning images to make you pay more to view more pages?

You'd be surprised at how many places COX manages to weasel images into, they've got their filthy 8==) thumbs all over the place. Comcast is a much more brutal ISP however, and they will monitor you sending you a message if necessary. It may start as an email, but it might escalate to ISIS level scare tactics should the problem specifically or generally get out of hand.

They are already watching and beaming all the data via laser onto a giant hard drive on the moons surface, all data, everywhere. Who's in power is just an illuminati facade and certain laws only apply to certain classes of hackers; bbs's will be the last bastion of freedom for those who can spread their data all over the moon such that a destruction of the lunar index file in the 9 expected backup centers will nearly erase any potential trace of detecting the meaning in the data. Generating white noise at the proper frequencies with appropriate filters/keys will allow you to operate even as the ISP's bombard with you with un-needed junk-male or make veiled threats on your person. It can never hurt to wear a tinfoil hat and at the very least carry a katana blade.

Seriously though, I'm joking - although some people may find it compelling explanation. If you've got a basic home subscription on one of those ISP's some people these days do have just an understanding of the internet being going on the web and browsing and having the shit that they buy work. Anyhow, in a way you just could set a bare minimum of services as far as what people expect. You start with the assumption that people have no service whatsoever and go from there. Then they get service, what do you give them access to accept incoming and outgoing connections, is that contingent on a limit and if so what determines that limit if needed, let's say how much you pay. This is already the case in certain circumstances, but I guess it could get taken to an extreme. Maybe something like any open port below 1024 cost a bunch of money to open or wasn't be able to open period. Then you could have some sort oligarchy of have's and have nots who could afford to run their own web server, making stupid companies more powerful. If the ISP's thought the BBS's were a threat to their dominance monetarily they surely could and would take measures to increase their bottom line were it substantial.

I'm actually extremely uninformed on the issue as far as reading up goes, so I'm shooting from the hip here, just winging it basically. I'm a moron.

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Re: BBS affected by Internet Fast Lanes?
By: physalis17 to All on Wed Nov 12 2014 07:59 am

Hey guys,

I am new here and have a question regarding bulletin board systems. The president is now fully supporting net neutrality which I think is a good thing and it is upsetting the ISPs. However, if the next president likes
the ISPs and wants Internet Fast Lanes, will that really affect BBS? Is the

since we are on residential lines usually, it will affect us.
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Subject: BBS affected by Internet Fast Lanes?
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Thank you guys for your replies. How important do you think older technology like BBS is as an alternative for when the ISPs eventually put their thumbs down on the Internet? I consider old tech very important in combating this crap.I think BBS is similar to HAM Radios because I consider knowledge to communicate at a bare minimum essential in case things do go from bad to
worse.

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Re: BBS affected by Internet Fast Lanes?
By: physalis17 to All on Wed Nov 26 2014 16:30:23

Thank you guys for your replies. How important do you think older technology like BBS is as an alternative for when the ISPs eventually put their thumbs down on the Internet? I consider old tech very important in combating this crap.I think BBS is similar to HAM Radios because I consider knowledge to communicate at a bare minimum essential in case things do go from bad to worse.

Utterly. It needs to be on a mobile platform due to the reasons of how simple it is to triangulate sources, but getting my BBS to be a mobile communications hub that can work with packet radio (AX.25) over shortwave frequency in lieu of my dismal views of what the future may hold is precisely what got me into BBSing and the stockpile of preparedness and survival information that I've put onto my own system. Not to mention schematics for dealing with jamming and other technologies that might come into play.

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Khelair wrote to physalis17 <=-

Utterly. It needs to be on a mobile platform due to the reasons of
how simple it is to triangulate sources, but getting my BBS to be a
mobile communications hub that can work with packet radio (AX.25) over shortwave frequency in lieu of my dismal views of what the future may
hold is precisely what got me into BBSing and the stockpile of preparedness and survival information that I've put onto my own system.

Ok, now I want a packet radio and a Raspberry Pi packed into a Pelican case
and running on 12VDC.




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On 11/27/2014 4:02 PM, "Poindexter Fortran" wrote:

Khelair wrote to physalis17 <=-

Kh> Utterly. It needs to be on a mobile platform due to the reasons of
Kh> how simple it is to triangulate sources, but getting my BBS to be a
Kh> mobile communications hub that can work with packet radio (AX.25) over
Kh> shortwave frequency in lieu of my dismal views of what the future may
Kh> hold is precisely what got me into BBSing and the stockpile of
Kh> preparedness and survival information that I've put onto my own system.

Ok, now I want a packet radio and a Raspberry Pi packed into a Pelican case and running on 12VDC.

Oh man, now that is a cool idea! Hrm. I wouldn't even know where to
start reading up on doing Dial-Telecom/POTS stuff over packet radio...

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Re: Re: BBS affected by Internet Fast Lanes?
By: Poindexter Fortran to Khelair on Thu Nov 27 2014 14:02:00

Ok, now I want a packet radio and a Raspberry Pi packed into a Pelican case and running on 12VDC.

Bingo. Pretty close to what I'm considering for my next incarnation.

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