• CP850

    From Flavio Bessa@4:801/189.1 to All on Fri Jul 6 13:43:44 2018
    Hello everybody.

    I have recently realized that my GoldED is running under CP866.

    How do I change it to CP850? The golded.cfg is as follows:

    XLATPATH /Users/flbessa/fido/etc/golded/cfgs/charset/
    XLATLOCALSET KOI8
    XLATIMPORT CP866
    XLATEXPORT CP866
    XLATCHARSET KOI8 CP866 koi_866.chs
    XLATCHARSET CP866 KOI8 866_koi.chs

    Flavio

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  • From Richard Menedetter@2:310/31 to Flavio Bessa on Fri Jul 6 20:49:54 2018
    Hi Flavio!

    06 Jul 2018 13:43, from Flavio Bessa -> All:

    I have recently realized that my GoldED is running under CP866.
    How do I change it to CP850? The golded.cfg is as follows:

    I see you are running Linux ... are you sure that you want to change to DOS CP850???
    I have set up my Linux system as Latin1.

    XLATPATH /Users/flbessa/fido/etc/golded/cfgs/charset/

    Sets the path where your translation files are stored.

    XLATLOCALSET KOI8
    Specifies the local charset.
    This is the charset that golded will display natively.
    Normally UTF-8.
    But golded does not support it, so you can change it to latin1, and reconfigure
    the terminal for that.

    XLATIMPORT CP866
    If a message has no charset kludge, assume it is written with that charset.

    XLATEXPORT CP866
    Export your messages in this charset.

    XLATCHARSET KOI8 CP866 koi_866.chs
    XLATCHARSET CP866 KOI8 866_koi.chs
    Specifies the translations.
    You should have much more than these.
    eg cp850 -> latin1
    ...

    I use this script to start golded.

    ==== Begin "ge" ====
    #!/bin/sh
    USERNAME=`whoami` ; T1="root"
    if [ "$T1" = "$USERNAME" ]; then
    echo 'Please do not run this script as root' ; exit
    fi

    export LC_NUMERIC="en_US.ISO-8859-1"
    export LC_TIME="en_US.ISO-8859-1"
    export LC_MONETARY="en_US.ISO-8859-1"
    export LC_PAPER="en_US.ISO-8859-1"
    export LC_IDENTIFICATION="en_US.ISO-8859-1"
    export LC_NAME="en_US.ISO-8859-1"
    export LC_ADDRESS="en_US.ISO-8859-1"
    export LC_TELEPHONE="en_US.ISO-8859-1"
    export LC_MEASUREMENT="en_US.ISO-8859-1"
    export LANG="en_US.ISO-8859-1"

    /usr/local/sbin/gedlnx -C/usr/local/etc/golded+/golded.cfg $*
    ==== End "ge" ====

    And this translation config:

    XLATPATH /usr/local/etc/golded+/cfgs/charset/
    XLATLOCALSET LATIN-1
    XLATIMPORT CP850
    XLATEXPORT LATIN-1

    XlatCharSet AUTO LATIN-1 850_i-1.chs

    XLATCHARSET CP437 LATIN-1 437_i-1.chs
    XLATCHARSET LATIN-1 CP437 i-1_437.chs
    XLATCHARSET CP850 LATIN-1 850_iso.chs
    XLATCHARSET LATIN-1 CP850 iso_850.chs
    XLATCHARSET LATIN-1 LATIN-1 iso_iso.chs

    include /usr/local/etc/golded+/charsets.cfg

    CU, Ricsi

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  • From Flavio Bessa@4:801/189.1 to Richard Menedetter on Sat Jul 7 10:31:14 2018
    Hello Richard.

    06 Jul 18 20:49, you wrote to me:

    I have recently realized that my GoldED is running under CP866.
    How do I change it to CP850? The golded.cfg is as follows:

    I see you are running Linux ... are you sure that you want to change
    to DOS CP850??? I have set up my Linux system as Latin1.

    Actually I am running MacOS...


    include /usr/local/etc/golded+/charsets.cfg

    Thanks for the tips! I tried changing it to LATIN-1 but had no effect... Will take a look at the logs now...

    Flavio

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Flavio Bessa on Sat Jul 7 07:15:43 2018
    Re: CP850
    By: Flavio Bessa to Richard Menedetter on Sat Jul 07 2018 10:31 am

    Thanks for the tips! I tried changing it to LATIN-1 but had no
    effect... Will take a look at the logs now...

    The CHRS kludge says LATIN-1 2, so I think you are set now.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al


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  • From Alexandr Kruglikov@2:5053/58 to Flavio Bessa on Sat Jul 7 19:59:22 2018
    Good ${greeting_time}, Flavio!

    07 Jul 18 10:31, you wrote to Richard Menedetter:

    I have recently realized that my GoldED is running under CP866.
    How do I change it to CP850? The golded.cfg is as follows:
    I see you are running Linux ... are you sure that you want to
    change to DOS CP850??? I have set up my Linux system as Latin1.
    Actually I am running MacOS...
    include /usr/local/etc/golded+/charsets.cfg
    Thanks for the tips! I tried changing it to LATIN-1 but had no effect... Will take a look at the logs now...

    Get latest echotag from http://download.binkd.org/mac/ first =)

    With best regards, Alexandr.

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  • From Richard Menedetter@2:310/31 to Flavio Bessa on Sun Jul 8 11:42:34 2018
    Hi Flavio!

    07 Jul 2018 10:31, from Flavio Bessa -> Richard Menedetter:

    I see you are running Linux ... are you sure that you want to
    change to DOS CP850??? I have set up my Linux system as Latin1.
    Actually I am running MacOS...

    It should be quit similar on the BSD based MacOS.

    include /usr/local/etc/golded+/charsets.cfg
    Thanks for the tips! I tried changing it to LATIN-1 but had no effect... Will take a look at the logs now...

    Did you switch your local terminal to latin1?
    Otherwise it will naturally not work.

    CU, Ricsi

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  • From Flavio Bessa@4:801/189.1 to Richard Menedetter on Mon Jul 9 09:02:19 2018
    Hello Richard.

    08 Jul 18 11:42, you wrote to me:

    Thanks for the tips! I tried changing it to LATIN-1 but
    had no effect... Will take a look at the logs now...

    Did you switch your local terminal to latin1?
    Otherwise it will naturally not work.

    I did! Funny thing is that now I am able to write the accents (ßΘø≤·, for instance) when I am quoting or writing a message, but when I try to read it, they appear as funny characters... :)

    Flavio

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  • From Flavio Bessa@4:801/189.1 to Alexandr Kruglikov on Mon Jul 9 09:04:20 2018
    Hello Alexandr.

    07 Jul 18 19:59, you wrote to me:

    Thanks for the tips! I tried changing it to LATIN-1 but
    had no effect... Will take a look at the logs now...

    Get latest echotag from http://download.binkd.org/mac/ first =)

    On that directory I could find only variations of "binkd11xxx-mac-intel64-ipv6-clang-zlib-bzlib2-https-proxy-ntlm-bwmlim.zip".

    Flavio

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  • From Flavio Bessa@4:801/189.1 to Alan Ianson on Mon Jul 9 09:05:28 2018
    Hello Alan.

    07 Jul 18 07:15, you wrote to me:

    Thanks for the tips! I tried changing it to LATIN-1 but had no
    effect... Will take a look at the logs now...

    The CHRS kludge says LATIN-1 2, so I think you are set now.

    It is! The problem now is when I try to read messages with accents...

    Flavio

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  • From Alexandr Kruglikov@2:5053/58 to Flavio Bessa on Mon Jul 9 21:07:20 2018
    Good ${greeting_time}, Flavio!

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    09 Jul 18 09:04, you wrote to me:

    Thanks for the tips! I tried changing it to LATIN-1 but
    had no effect... Will take a look at the logs now...
    Get latest echotag from http://download.binkd.org/mac/ first =)
    On that directory I could find only variations of "binkd11xxx-mac-intel64-ipv6-clang-zlib-bzlib2-https-proxy-ntlm-bwmlim .zip".

    Sorry, was excited =) http://download.golded.org/mac/ of course =)

    With best regards, Alexandr.

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  • From Richard Menedetter@2:310/31 to Flavio Bessa on Thu Jul 12 13:22:04 2018
    Hi Flavio!

    09 Jul 2018 09:02, from Flavio Bessa -> Richard Menedetter:

    I did! Funny thing is that now I am able to write the accents (ßΘø≤·, for instance) when I am quoting or writing a message, but when
    I try to read it, they appear as funny characters... :)

    Indeed ... that is what I saw as well.
    Your original mail is OK, when you reply it gets garbled up.

    Can you see which list golded presents when you press ctrl-j?
    Maybe you are missing a translation file?

    CU, Ricsi

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  • From Flavio Bessa@4:801/189.1 to Richard Menedetter on Thu Jul 12 12:51:17 2018
    Hello Richard.

    12 Jul 18 13:22, you wrote to me:

    Indeed ... that is what I saw as well.
    Your original mail is OK, when you reply it gets garbled up.

    Can you see which list golded presents when you press ctrl-j?
    Maybe you are missing a translation file?

    It presents CP850 -> LATIN-1 highlighted...

    Flavio

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  • From Flavio Bessa@4:801/189.1 to Richard Menedetter on Thu Jul 12 13:22:17 2018
    Hello Richard.

    12 Jul 18 13:22, you wrote to me:

    I did! Funny thing is that now I am able to write the
    accents (ßΘø≤·, for instance) when I am quoting or writing a
    message, but when I try to read it, they appear as funny
    characters... :)

    Indeed ... that is what I saw as well.
    Your original mail is OK, when you reply it gets garbled up.

    Can you see which list golded presents when you press ctrl-j?
    Maybe you are missing a translation file?

    I think I got it now... Please let me know if you can read these:

    ßΘø≤·

    Flavio

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  • From Richard Menedetter@2:310/31 to Flavio Bessa on Wed Jul 18 16:11:14 2018
    Hi Flavio!

    12 Jul 2018 13:22, from Flavio Bessa -> Richard Menedetter:

    I think I got it now...
    Please let me know if you can read these:
    ßΘø≤·

    Looks good!
    What did you change?

    CU, Ricsi

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  • From Flavio Bessa@4:801/189.1 to Richard Menedetter on Wed Jul 18 15:20:46 2018
    Hello Richard.

    18 Jul 18 16:11, you wrote to me:

    I think I got it now...
    Please let me know if you can read these:
    ßΘø≤·

    Looks good!
    What did you change?

    I changed primary charset to LATIN-1:

    XLATPATH /Users/flbessa/fido/etc/golded/cfgs/charset/
    XLATLOCALSET LATIN-1
    XLATIMPORT LATIN-1
    XLATEXPORT LATIN-1
    XLATCHARSET AUTO LATIN-1 850_i-1.chs

    XLATCHARSET CP437 LATIN-1 437_i-1.chs
    XLATCHARSET LATIN-1 CP437 i-1_437.chs
    XLATCHARSET CP850 LATIN-1 850_iso.chs
    XLATCHARSET LATIN-1 CP850 iso_850.chs
    XLATCHARSET LATIN-1 LATIN-1 iso_iso.chs
    XLATCHARSET CP850 CP850 850_iso.chs
    IGNORECHARSET

    Now it's working fine for most echos, except the Brazilian Portuguese ones that use CP850. Using CTRL-J I can change the reading CHRS to CP850 and it
    works fine, but when I write it goes to LATIN-1 and it messes everything.





    Flavio

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  • From Kai Richter@2:240/77 to Flavio Bessa on Wed Jul 18 22:31:34 2018
    Hello Flavio!

    18 Jul 18, Flavio Bessa wrote to Richard Menedetter:

    XLATIMPORT LATIN-1
    XLATEXPORT LATIN-1

    Now it's working fine for most echos, except the Brazilian Portuguese
    ones that use CP850. Using CTRL-J I can change the reading CHRS to
    CP850 and it works fine, but when I write it goes to LATIN-1 and it
    messes everything.

    You could use goldeds random system to define specific echo configuration.

    Please use the manual, it's far to long ago i touched the configuration.

    I have goldrand.cfg file which includes group definitions like:

    GROUP GED:
    AKA 2:240/77
    MEMBER GOLDED.GER
    MEMBER GOLDBETA.GER
    XLATEXPORT IBMPC
    ; TAGLINESUPPORT yes
    ; TAGLINE @golded.tag
    ; include /golded/TPL/origin/golden.origs
    ; ORIGIN @/golded/TPL/origin/golden.origs
    ENDGROUP

    Change the member line to your brazilian echos and adjust the exports to cp850. I think you could add an xlatimport with cp850 too. I think that would match mails without CHRS kludge.

    (It's called random system because golded read the ORIGIN line file golden.origs and choose one line of it for the origin.)

    Regards

    Kai

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  • From Richard Menedetter@2:310/31 to Flavio Bessa on Thu Jul 19 21:07:30 2018
    Hi Flavio!

    18 Jul 2018 15:20, from Flavio Bessa -> Richard Menedetter:

    Looks good!
    What did you change?
    I changed primary charset to LATIN-1:

    Localset??
    Or what do you mean with primary charset??

    XLATIMPORT LATIN-1
    Set this to the charset that you receive the most messages WITHOUT charset kludge.

    XLATCHARSET AUTO LATIN-1 850_i-1.chs
    I think you can comment out that.
    To be honest I am not quit sure what it is for?
    Does anybody know?

    IGNORECHARSET

    A really, really bad idea!!
    It ignores tha charset kludge of messages.
    Do not do that!!!

    Now it's working fine for most echos, except the Brazilian Portuguese ones that use CP850. Using CTRL-J I can change the reading
    CHRS to CP850 and it works fine, but when I write it goes to LATIN-1
    and it messes everything.

    Try to comment out/delete IGNORECHARSET.
    Otherwise it will ignore the charset kludge and allways assume xlatimport charset.
    (ie only latin-1 will work)

    I have set xlatimport to cp850 because that is the charset where I receive charset-less messages with.
    (usually latin-1 encoded messages are from more recent programs that correctly set the charset kludge.)

    CU, Ricsi

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