I'm wondering if anyone is aware of an editor for the UTF-8 text files that have color codes, and wind up looking like a regular 16-color ANSI, but with the option of many more colors.

I've used manytools.org and ascii-art-generator.org to create some UTF-8
files, and they oftentimes look quite good when I use cat to display them on the command line in Linux, but I'd like to be able to edit them, or make my
own from scratch for a more-colorful BBS.

But the idea of doing it directly with hex codes in one window, and
repeatedly cat'ing the resulting file seems tedious at best. And the text editors I'm aware of don't display the color (or I'm missing the setting to
do so).

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I'm wondering if anyone is aware of an editor for the UTF-8 text
files that have color codes, and wind up looking like a regular
16-color ANSI, but with the option of many more colors.

UTF-8 would give extra characters, not colours. Colours are done via
ANSI codes, to get more colours have a look at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ANSI_escape_code#8-bit

Most BBS terminals won't support more than 16 colours, but linux
terminals like konsole and gnome terminal do, so you could technically
use more colours with CP437 with your current BBS (or with UTF-8), just
it wouldn't look very good in most BBS terminals.

Andrew

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UTF-8 would give extra characters, not colours. Colours are done via
ANSI codes, to get more colours have a look at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ANSI_escape_code#8-bit

Ah, okay, so it's still ANSI, it's just not 16-color ANSI, and I conflated it with UTF-8 because it was only on Linux systems that the more-colors ANSIs worked.

Thanks for that clarification.

terminals like konsole and gnome terminal do, so you could technically
use more colours with CP437 with your current BBS (or with UTF-8), just
it wouldn't look very good in most BBS terminals.

I suppose that's about as I'd expect. I guess I was hoping that it'd look decent using Mystic and a linux terminal of some sort. At least locally on my server.

But that still doesn't solve the aspect that it'd be rather a pain to _edit_ any of those graphics.

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terminals like konsole and gnome terminal do, so you could
technically use more colours with CP437 with your current BBS
(or with UTF-8), just it wouldn't look very good in most BBS
terminals.

I suppose that's about as I'd expect. I guess I was hoping that
it'd look decent using Mystic and a linux terminal of some sort. At
least locally on my server.

For what it's worth, I just updated MagiTerm to display 8-bit and 24-bit
colour :)

But that still doesn't solve the aspect that it'd be rather a pain
to _edit_ any of those graphics.

Yeah an editor would be nice :) maybe you can make a feature request for
mobius or something (that seems to be an active project)

Andrew



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For what it's worth, I just updated MagiTerm to display 8-bit and 24-bit colour :)

Yay! I just downloaded it, so hopefully it included that change.

But, realistically, this is all a longer-term project anyway. But that's
still exciting.

Yeah an editor would be nice :) maybe you can make a feature request for mobius or something (that seems to be an active project)

That's a good idea. I suppose there's probably a lot more infrastructure
needed to deal with lots more colors, though, since the color picker is 16 colors.

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On 24 Jun 2020, apam said the following...

For what it's worth, I just updated MagiTerm to display 8-bit and 24-bit colour :)

No MagiTerm for MacOS?


Jay

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On 24 Jun 2020, apam said the following...

For what it's worth, I just updated MagiTerm to display 8-bit
and 24-bit colour :)

No MagiTerm for MacOS?

Sorry, no. I used to do mac os builds, but it got too hard. The code is
still there, so you might be able to build it.

Andrew

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Yeah an editor would be nice :) maybe you can make a feature request for mobius or something (that seems to be an active project)

Looking at the github repository, it seems like any current work is going toward making it more comparable in features with PabloDraw, and most everything else would be in version 2, which would involve being a massive re-write.

So I kinda felt weird about actually putting in the request on the page. But
I haven't really done that sort of thing on github, and don't know the etiquette. I mean, it's a free product that I'm thankful for, regardless.

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So I kinda felt weird about actually putting in the request on the
page. But I haven't really done that sort of thing on github, and
don't know the etiquette. I mean, it's a free product that I'm
thankful for, regardless.

Fair enough, different people react differently to suggestions, feature requests etc.

Mostly though, if you're polite they will look at your request, they
might not add it, or disagree that it should be added. It may even spark
some discussion about said feature. Most don't tear you to shreds for
asking for a feature.

Actually, engaging with developers lets them know you're actually using
their product, which in the BBS world is a huge encouragement.

So in short, the worst that could happen is they say no. (Unless you say something like "moebius is crap because it doesn't have feature x add it
now!" - which I doubt you would, but some people do)

Andrew

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So in short, the worst that could happen is they say no. (Unless you say something like "moebius is crap because it doesn't have feature x add it now!" - which I doubt you would, but some people do)

I decided to go ahead and post a message, after seeing a longer feature-suggestion note from xqtr that was received fairly well (even if the answer was "no, and here are the reasons" for lots of the requests).

I phrased it as being something that was unlikely, but that I figured I'd mention in case people might do it some day. And that I'm thankful for
Moebius anyway.

It certainly is a nice editor, as I was able to adjust my ANSI much faster
than I had been doing with PabloDraw.

Regardless, thanks for the encouragement, and for adding 8-bit and 24-bit
color ANSI support to MagiTerm.

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Quoting apam to Adept <=-

So in short, the worst that could happen is they say no. (Unless you
say something like "moebius is crap because it doesn't have feature x
add it now!" - which I doubt you would, but some people do)

I've always found demanding features and being rude and abusive
towards developers is the number 1 way to get things done! Damn lazy
neck beards.

Shawn

... All's well that ends.

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Quoting apam to Adept <=-

So in short, the worst that could happen is they say no.
(Unless you say something like "moebius is crap because it
doesn't have feature x add it now!" - which I doubt you would,
but some people do)

I've always found demanding features and being rude and abusive
towards developers is the number 1 way to get things done! Damn
lazy neck beards.

Lol.


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Quoting apam to Tiny <=-

lazy neck beards.

Lol.

That's why I like the BBS, I can say stuff like that and people
know it's a joke.

Shawn

... Did you look at the docs? No, but I fondled the nurses!

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