• Re: Federal Police and Tr

    From paulie420@BEERS20 to HusTler on Tue Jul 28 22:24:00 2020
    On 26 Jul 2020, HusTler said the following...


    So what's your view on Trump sending in the Federal Police to certain cities t o take back America from the Anarchists? Should we let them continue to destroy government property? Or should law and order be upheld?
    HusTler

    I think we should allow the states to handle their populations the way they
    see fit.

    Until they ask for help, or it goes too far.

    In Seattle, I thought that allowing the rioters to take the CHOP was ridiculous... I think the fed was about to come in and help, with or without the request - and in that case I almost think they should have doneso earlier...

    However, in Portland - where I live - the city had it under control... there were no takeovers of any city areas... yes there is damage, but nothing that
    I haven't seen traveling around to other American cities.

    I think the fed being in Portland, without the support of the local
    govenrment, is too much... however if the antifa fucks keep pushing- taking over any of the city; well, then the local gov better up the ante and push
    them back; or the fed should come in.

    However, the local government doesn't want them... and the actions on the ground don't warrant federal intervention. I took my 16 year old son downtown today. We WALKED thru the area by the federal courthouse. Even bought a
    shirt. It's not time for the feds - yet they are here. And, hell if yer gonna be here then DO THE JOB quick and swiftly. Shut it down and move along.. but no, they're just riling everyone up... creating more injuries and issues for the news stations to blow up each night.

    shrug.



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  • From HusTler@HAVENS to paulie420 on Wed Jul 29 10:56:33 2020
    Re: Re: Federal Police and Tr
    By: paulie420 to HusTler on Tue Jul 28 2020 10:24 pm

    So what's your view on Trump sending in the Federal Police to
    certain cities t o take back America from the Anarchists? Should we

    I think we should allow the states to handle their populations the way they see fit.

    Until they ask for help, or it goes too far.

    So it's OK to destroy federal property? Did to catch any of the Bar hearing yesterday? 8 mins of riots and destruction were shown. These are the videos the left wing media don't show us.


    I think the fed being in Portland, without the support of the local govenrment, is too much... however if the antifa fucks keep pushing- taking over any of the city; well, then the local gov better up the ante and push them back; or the fed should come in.

    So which is it? Support the federal police or "defund" them too?

    HusTler
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  • From Dumas Walker@CAPCITY2 to PAULIE420 on Wed Jul 29 16:19:00 2020
    However, the local government doesn't want them... and the actions on the ground don't warrant federal intervention. I took my 16 year old son downtown today. We WALKED thru the area by the federal courthouse. Even bought a shirt. It's not time for the feds - yet they are here. And, hell if yer gonna be here then DO THE JOB quick and swiftly. Shut it down and move along.. but no, they're just riling everyone up... creating more injuries and issues for the news stations to blow up each night.

    Were you there at night? :)


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  • From paulie420@BEERS20 to HusTler on Wed Jul 29 17:09:00 2020
    On 29 Jul 2020, HusTler said the following...

    Re: Re: Federal Police and Tr
    By: paulie420 to HusTler on Tue Jul 28 2020 10:24 pm

    So what's your view on Trump sending in the Federal Police to
    certain cities t o take back America from the Anarchists? Should we

    I think we should allow the states to handle their populations the wa they see fit.

    Until they
    HusTler
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    I quoted ALL ---->

    On my system, Hustler's replies have been coming thru as just this. No text/data... just your signature after what you quoted.... ???



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  • From paulie420@BEERS20 to Dumas Walker on Wed Jul 29 17:13:00 2020
    no, they're just riling everyone up... creating more injuries and issues the news stations to blow up each night.

    Were you there at night? :)

    Not last night... and yes it pops off at NIGHT ---> but Portland doesn't want help and my point is that it isn't to the point of the CHOP in Seattle...
    which is what the cutoff for me is.

    However, I kinda like what happened today - the feds are going to backoff
    *IF* Portland local government takes care of the issue within 14 days. All I mean is that I support local governments being allowed to handle - and put up with - as much as they want.

    Till they ask for help, OR
    till the protesters up the ante and step over the line. For me, the line
    isn't spray painting and....

    its violence, actualy destruction of property or taking over an area. (Like CHOP/CHAZ).



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  • From Gamgee@PALANT to paulie420 on Thu Jul 30 07:23:00 2020
    paulie420 wrote to Dumas Walker <=-

    no, they're just riling everyone up... creating more injuries and issues the news stations to blow up each night.

    Were you there at night? :)

    Not last night... and yes it pops off at NIGHT ---> but Portland
    doesn't want help and my point is that it isn't to the point of
    the CHOP in Seattle... which is what the cutoff for me is.

    The assholes in Seattle were *FAR* less destructive than the
    assholes in Portland.

    However, I kinda like what happened today - the feds are going to
    backoff *IF* Portland local government takes care of the issue
    within 14 days. All I mean is that I support local governments
    being allowed to handle - and put up with - as much as they want.

    Till they ask for help, OR
    till the protesters up the ante and step over the line. For me,
    the line isn't spray painting and....

    its violence, actualy destruction of property or taking over an
    area. (Like CHOP/CHAZ).

    You don't think there has been violence and destruction of
    property there in Portland? How can you POSSIBLY think that,
    especially when you friggin LIVE there?

    What do you call this: https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/2020/07/city-multnomah-county-detail-violence-cost-of-repairs-damage-in-response-to-dont-shoot-portlands-motion-to-restrict-tear-gas-less-lethal-weapons.html

    I'm impressed that the police haven't used real bullets yet,
    because that's what I'd be doing. Fuckin anarchists and thugs is
    what they are, they're not "protesting" anything. They think this
    crap is fun. Fuck them.



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  • From paulie420@BEERS20 to Gamgee on Thu Jul 30 09:58:00 2020
    You don't think there has been violence and destruction of
    property there in Portland? How can you POSSIBLY think that,
    especially when you friggin LIVE there?

    I'm impressed that the police haven't used real bullets yet,
    because that's what I'd be doing. Fuckin anarchists and thugs is
    what they are, they're not "protesting" anything. They think this
    crap is fun. Fuck them.

    I'm on the same side as you.. they're assholes, fuck them. I'm from Texas... I've only lived here for a year - in Texas the local government would have
    shut this down the first weekend that it was happening..

    And yes, I *see* the spray painting and broken windows... sure do. But they haven't taken over a city block(s) as their own; AND the local government
    seems to be ok with handling it their way.

    I suppose thats what I support... if the local gov thinks they have it under control, the local businesses aren't suffering nor saying to stop the protesters... then leave the fed out of it.
    The day that they take over any areas in the city, or like... burn down a building, etc - then the fed should step in - well, the local gov should step in but IF they don't...

    I just think that they have it right as of yesterday; the fed is backing out, and the local gov has 14 days to get it under control. These people are different than my Texan brothers... they're allowed to be. Its America. They voted it in this way... so, let em have it.

    No, I don't agree with it and think that they should shut it down the moment protesters go beyond voices and signs.



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  • From Dumas Walker@CAPCITY2 to PAULIE420 on Thu Jul 30 17:20:00 2020
    However, I kinda like what happened today - the feds are going to backoff *IF* Portland local government takes care of the issue within 14 days. All I mean is that I support local governments being allowed to handle - and put up with - as much as they want.

    I do support them being allowed to handle, but if they start to allow
    people to vandalize/destroy federal offices or property, I support the
    federal government defending those areas.

    My opinion in general is that most things should be handled on the local or state level.

    Till they ask for help, OR
    till the protesters up the ante and step over the line. For me, the line isn't spray painting and....

    its violence, actualy destruction of property or taking over an area. (Like CHOP/CHAZ).

    My local stations were ignoring what was going on up there until within the past week. Something changed that got them interested. People trowing
    bricks at cops, starting fires, throwing explosives... that got Portland on
    the news here. Just because Portland's mayor wants to put up with that,
    and doesn't think it is violent enough does not mean the citizens should
    have to put up with it.


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  • From Gamgee@PALANT to paulie420 on Thu Jul 30 21:22:00 2020
    paulie420 wrote to Gamgee <=-

    You don't think there has been violence and destruction of
    property there in Portland? How can you POSSIBLY think that,
    especially when you friggin LIVE there?

    I'm impressed that the police haven't used real bullets yet,
    because that's what I'd be doing. Fuckin anarchists and thugs is
    what they are, they're not "protesting" anything. They think this
    crap is fun. Fuck them.

    I'm on the same side as you.. they're assholes, fuck them. I'm
    from Texas... I've only lived here for a year - in Texas the
    local government would have shut this down the first weekend that
    it was happening..

    No doubt. Probably in any other state too, besides the hardcore
    socialist "blue" states.

    And yes, I *see* the spray painting and broken windows... sure
    do. But they haven't taken over a city block(s) as their own; AND
    the local government seems to be ok with handling it their way.

    I suppose thats what I support... if the local gov thinks they
    have it under control, the local businesses aren't suffering nor
    saying to stop the protesters... then leave the fed out of it.

    The local businesses *ARE* suffering. Who do you think owns the
    broken windows and spray painted walls? They're either scared to
    speak out, or they're being ignored by the local government.

    The day that they take over any areas in the city, or like...
    burn down a building, etc - then the fed should step in - well,
    the local gov should step in but IF they don't...

    They take over certain areas every single night, and I'm pretty
    sure some stuff has been burned down.

    I just think that they have it right as of yesterday; the fed is
    backing out, and the local gov has 14 days to get it under
    control. These people are different than my Texan brothers...
    they're allowed to be. Its America. They voted it in this way...
    so, let em have it.

    Yeah, I guess. Hard to believe anybody *wants* things that way.

    No, I don't agree with it and think that they should shut it down
    the moment protesters go beyond voices and signs.

    They've gone *WAY* beyond voices and signs, and have done so every
    fuckin night for the last two months. It saddens me to see a
    local "government" that soft and ineffective. Also the locals
    that don't put a stop to this bullshit themselves.



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  • From HusTler@HAVENS to Gamgee on Fri Jul 31 10:21:46 2020
    Re: Re: Federal Police and Tr
    By: Gamgee to paulie420 on Thu Jul 30 2020 09:22 pm

    They've gone *WAY* beyond voices and signs, and have done so every
    fuckin night for the last two months. It saddens me to see a
    local "government" that soft and ineffective. Also the locals
    that don't put a stop to this bullshit themselves.

    Maybe that's when things will considered "Gone to Far". When the shooting starts. And it will if this BS is not put down NOW.

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  • From paulie420@BEERS20 to Gamgee on Sat Aug 1 06:25:00 2020
    The local businesses *ARE* suffering. Who do you think owns the
    broken windows and spray painted walls? They're either scared to
    speak out, or they're being ignored by the local government.

    Well, for example theres a very popular nightclub here, Dante's... on their
    FB page they show photos of a huge banner on their building saying 'FEDS GO HOME'... and they allow these antifa folks to have a platform; basically unchallenged- because when normal folks talk out about them, they start in
    with DOXing them and.... ask me how I know.

    Seems like the LOCAL businesses here ARE these blue, antifa supporting folks
    - and that antifa goes easy on the.... publicly supportive biz's. Most of the damage is to big corporation biz's, banks, targets, etc - but yes... I'm sure there are plenty of local places that don't speak up AND suffer.

    You're right. But at some point I'm like... well, they live here. They vote here... I'm outta here, man. I'll be back in Austin just as quick as I feel safe with the covid stuff.



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  • From Gamgee@PALANT to paulie420 on Sat Aug 1 14:39:00 2020
    paulie420 wrote to Gamgee <=-

    The local businesses *ARE* suffering. Who do you think owns the
    broken windows and spray painted walls? They're either scared to
    speak out, or they're being ignored by the local government.

    Well, for example theres a very popular nightclub here,
    Dante's... on their FB page they show photos of a huge banner on
    their building saying 'FEDS GO HOME'... and they allow these
    antifa folks to have a platform; basically unchallenged- because
    when normal folks talk out about them, they start in with DOXing
    them and.... ask me how I know.

    Then they (those businesses) are assholes right down to the core,
    and should be ignored/boycotted/avoided. Eventually they'll get
    the message, likely as they're going out of business.

    Seems like the LOCAL businesses here ARE these blue, antifa
    supporting folks - and that antifa goes easy on the.... publicly supportive biz's. Most of the damage is to big corporation biz's,
    banks, targets, etc - but yes... I'm sure there are plenty of
    local places that don't speak up AND suffer.

    See above. Let them go bankrupt after this bullshit blows over.

    You're right. But at some point I'm like... well, they live here.
    They vote here... I'm outta here, man. I'll be back in Austin
    just as quick as I feel safe with the covid stuff.

    Good idea.



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  • From Dumas Walker@CAPCITY2 to PAULIE420 on Sat Aug 1 17:11:00 2020
    You're right. But at some point I'm like... well, they live here. They vote here... I'm outta here, man. I'll be back in Austin just as quick as I feel safe with the covid stuff.

    Sounds like a smart plan. :)


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