• More Fun Heart News

    From The Lizard Master@NITEEYES to All on Tue Jul 28 11:58:55 2020
    Cardiac involvement and myocardial inflammation are common in recovered COVID-19 patients, according to a new study published in JAMA Cardiology.

    The authors studied cardiac imaging results of 100 adult patients included in the University Hospital Frankfurt COVID-19 Registry. All patients had confirmed cases of COVID-19 but passed a swab test after at least two weeks in isolation. They were recruited for this analysis between April to June 2020.

    The team tracked patients who had experienced a wide variety of outcomes after their diagnosis. Just two of the 100 patients had to undergo mechanical ventilation, for example, and oxygen supplementation was required in 28 patients.

    All participants underwent cardiac MR imaging using standardized and unified protocols on 3T MRI scanners. The cohort was compared with 50 healthy control patients and 57 risk factor-matched patients.

    Overall, the team found that 78 patients had abnormal imaging findings. Findings included raised myocardial native T1 (73 patients), raised myocardial native T2 (60 patients), myocardial late gadolinium enhancement (32 patients) and pericardial enhancement (22 patients). Three patients underwent a biopsy after severe abnormalities were detected.

    https://www.cardiovascularbusiness.com/topics/cardiovascular-imaging/78-covid-19-patients-heart-damage-recovery

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  • From Arelor@PALANT to The Lizard Master on Tue Jul 28 17:48:24 2020
    Re: More Fun Heart News
    By: The Lizard Master to All on Tue Jul 28 2020 11:58 am

    Cardiac involvement and myocardial inflammation are common in recovered COVID-19 patients, according t
    new study published in JAMA Cardiology.

    The authors studied cardiac imaging results of 100 adult patients included in the University Hospital
    Frankfurt COVID-19 Registry. All patients had confirmed cases of COVID-19 but passed a swab test after
    least two weeks in isolation. They were recruited for this analysis between April to June 2020.

    The team tracked patients who had experienced a wide variety of outcomes after their diagnosis. Just t
    of the 100 patients had to undergo mechanical ventilation, for example, and oxygen supplementation was
    required in 28 patients.

    All participants underwent cardiac MR imaging using standardized and unified protocols on 3T MRI
    scanners. The cohort was compared with 50 healthy control patients and 57 risk factor-matched patients

    Overall, the team found that 78 patients had abnormal imaging findings. Findings included raised
    myocardial native T1 (73 patients), raised myocardial native T2 (60 patients), myocardial late gadolin
    enhancement (32 patients) and pericardial enhancement (22 patients). Three patients underwent a biopsy
    after severe abnormalities were detected.

    https://www.cardiovascularbusiness.com/topics/cardiovascular-imaging/78-covid-19-patients-heart-damage
    covery

    ---TLM


    Thanks for the heads up.

    I am curious as to what the results would be for a random sample of the population, though.

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  • From Dr. What@DMINE to The Lizard Master on Wed Jul 29 12:04:00 2020
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    Cardiac involvement and myocardial inflammation are common in recovered COVID-19 patients, according to a new study published in JAMA
    Cardiology.

    The team tracked patients who had experienced a wide variety of
    outcomes after their diagnosis. Just two of the 100 patients had to undergo mechanical ventilation, for example, and oxygen supplementation was required in 28 patients.

    But no information was known BEFORE the COVID diagnosis.

    So, while this is interesting and certainly worthy of more research, it doesn't say too much about COVID and cardiac issues since the issues may have existed BEFORE the COVID diagnosis.

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  • From MRO@BBSESINF to The Lizard Master on Wed Jul 29 21:19:32 2020
    Re: More Fun Heart News
    By: The Lizard Master to All on Tue Jul 28 2020 11:58 am

    The authors studied cardiac imaging results of 100 adult patients included in the University Hospital Frankfurt COVID-19 Registry. All patients had confirmed cases of COVID-19 but passed a swab test after at least two weeks in isolation. They were recruited for this analysis between April to June 2020.

    "Cause of death was listed as pneumonia in 35 cases (89.7%), while the other four (10.2%) died of necrotizing fasciitis, cardiac decompensation with previous heart failure, bacterial bronchitis, or unknown causes. The most common underlying illnesses were coronary artery disease (32 [82.0%]), high blood pressure (17 [43.6%]), and diabetes (7 [17.9%]). Median patient age was 85 years, and 23 of 39 patients (59%) were women.

    "Overt fulminant myocarditis has been reported in isolated patients with SARS-CoV-2 infection," the authors wrote. "However, the current data indicate that the presence of SARS-CoV-2 in cardiac tissue does not necessarily cause an inflammatory reaction consistent with clinical myocarditis."

    They called for future research on the long-term complications of COVID-19 cardiac involvement.
    "

    so they were all old, existing conditions and findings are inconclusive.
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  • From MRO@BBSESINF to Arelor on Wed Jul 29 21:20:40 2020
    Re: More Fun Heart News
    By: Arelor to The Lizard Master on Tue Jul 28 2020 05:48 pm


    I am curious as to what the results would be for a random sample of the population, though.


    yes, that is a biased study of people ~85yrs old
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  • From The Lizard Master@NITEEYES to Dr. What on Wed Jul 29 19:38:16 2020
    Re: Re: More Fun Heart News
    By: Dr. What to The Lizard Master on Wed Jul 29 2020 12:04 pm

    But no information was known BEFORE the COVID diagnosis.

    So, while this is interesting and certainly worthy of more research, it doesn't say too much about COVID and cardiac issues since the issues may have existed BEFORE the COVID diagnosis.

    While true, 100% of the studies have found this so far.

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  • From Dr. What@DMINE to The Lizard Master on Thu Jul 30 10:31:00 2020
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    While true, 100% of the studies have found this so far.

    Which studies have found these after efffects of COVID?

    Like I said in other messages, I have seen nothing on this from reliable
    news sources.

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  • From Dr. What@DMINE to MRO on Thu Jul 30 10:53:00 2020
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    so they were all old, existing conditions and findings are
    inconclusive.

    This is what I figured. They are continuing with the Narrative of "they
    had COVID and then later died. It must be because of COVID. Keep everything locked down."


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  • From Underminer@UNDRMINE to Dr. What on Thu Jul 30 15:18:51 2020
    Re: Re: More Fun Heart News
    By: Dr. What to The Lizard Master on Thu Jul 30 2020 10:31 am

    Like I said in other messages, I have seen nothing on this from reliable news sources.

    I think we may just need clarification on what you consider reliable news sources, as I've seen reports in news distributors considered aligned with nearly every political bent.
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  • From MRO@BBSESINF to The Lizard Master on Thu Jul 30 16:58:58 2020
    Re: Re: More Fun Heart News
    By: The Lizard Master to Dr. What on Wed Jul 29 2020 07:38 pm


    So, while this is interesting and certainly worthy of more research,
    it doesn't say too much about COVID and cardiac issues since the
    issues may have existed BEFORE the COVID diagnosis.

    While true, 100% of the studies have found this so far.


    also this heart inflamation stuff happens with other infections at a similar rate
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  • From MRO@BBSESINF to Dr. What on Thu Jul 30 16:59:49 2020
    Re: Re: More Fun Heart News
    By: Dr. What to MRO on Thu Jul 30 2020 10:53 am

    MRO wrote to The Lizard Master <=-

    so they were all old, existing conditions and findings are
    inconclusive.

    This is what I figured. They are continuing with the Narrative of "they had COVID and then later died. It must be because of COVID. Keep everything locked down."


    also as i said in the other post, this heart inflamation happens with other infections at a similar rate.
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  • From The Lizard Master@NITEEYES to Dr. What on Thu Jul 30 16:12:17 2020
    Re: Re: More Fun Heart News
    By: Dr. What to The Lizard Master on Thu Jul 30 2020 10:31 am

    The Lizard Master wrote to Dr. What <=-

    While true, 100% of the studies have found this so far.

    Which studies have found these after efffects of COVID?

    Like I said in other messages, I have seen nothing on this from reliable news sources.

    Like I said, all of them. Shrug, I hope it's not true too....

    https://www.advisory.com/daily-briefing/2020/07/30/heart-studies

    It's an alert, people are looking into it. None have not found any damage though.

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  • From Dr. What@DMINE to Underminer on Fri Jul 31 12:28:00 2020
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    I think we may just need clarification on what you consider reliable
    news sources, as I've seen reports in news distributors considered
    aligned with nearly every political bent.

    Ones, like CNN, WaPo, and the like that have demonstrated bias to the point where they willingly lie are not reliable news sources.

    You are correct that pretty much every source is biased to some extent.
    But when you know that they are biased you can adjust what they say to
    account for the bias, then go after the base information that they talk
    about to get a clearer picture.

    So, when a talking head says 'expert say', but don't say what 'experts',
    that's unreliable news.

    Also, when the "news" contridicts itself, that's unrelliable.
    ex: a local "news" source screams doom and gloom over the COVID numbers,
    then shows you the COVID numbers and you do your own calculation on them
    and it shows no doom and gloom.


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