• Black Lives Matter and Marxist affiliations

    From Arelor@PALANT to All on Sat Jun 27 16:09:27 2020
    Hello,

    sorry for the clickbait, but I felt like grabbing your attention.

    I suspect this is not a neutral source by any means, but I ran into this article:

    https://www.theblaze.com/news/black-lives-matter-founder-marxist-trump

    Some affirmations the article makes:

    1) BLM is not a laser focused anti racism group but a generic platform for the spread of left-wing poliicies.
    2) A co-founder of the movement declares that the founding group is compound of "trained marxists".
    3) A stated goal of the group is to kick Trump out of office.

    Any thoughts?

    My first one is that if a fascist group decided to campaign for a widely supported cause (say, prevention of sex abuse against kids), such group would still be hated by the public because they are dirty stinking fascist.

    Which maks me wonder why BLM gets so much support in this regard. Is it because communism is more socially acceptable? Or because the article is a piece of cr**?

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  • From MRO@BBSESINF to Arelor on Sat Jun 27 18:56:50 2020
    Re: Black Lives Matter and Marxist affiliations
    By: Arelor to All on Sat Jun 27 2020 04:09 pm

    Hello,

    sorry for the clickbait, but I felt like grabbing your attention.

    I suspect this is not a neutral source by any means, but I ran into this article:

    all that is true.

    Which maks me wonder why BLM gets so much support in this regard. Is it beca communism is more socially acceptable? Or because the article is a piece of


    if you dont like them you are a racist. just saying something bad about them gets you branded as such. they even picked the name of that group so if you are agains them, you are a racist.
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  • From HusTler@HAVENS to Arelor on Sat Jun 27 22:58:48 2020
    Re: Black Lives Matter and Marxist affiliations
    By: Arelor to All on Sat Jun 27 2020 04:09 pm

    sorry for the clickbait, but I felt like grabbing your attention.

    https://www.theblaze.com/news/black-lives-matter-founder-marxist-trump

    Which maks me wonder why BLM gets so much support in this regard. Is it because communism is more socially acceptable? Or because the article is a piece of cr**?

    The article is a piece of cr**p.

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  • From Moondog@CAVEBBS to Arelor on Sat Jun 27 23:42:00 2020
    Re: Black Lives Matter and Ma
    By: Arelor to All on Sat Jun 27 2020 04:09 pm

    Hello,

    sorry for the clickbait, but I felt like grabbing your attention.

    I suspect this is not a neutral source by any means, but I ran into this article:

    https://www.theblaze.com/news/black-lives-matter-founder-marxist-trump

    Some affirmations the article makes:

    1) BLM is not a laser focused anti racism group but a generic platform for t spread of left-wing poliicies.
    2) A co-founder of the movement declares that the founding group is compound "trained marxists".
    3) A stated goal of the group is to kick Trump out of office.

    Any thoughts?

    My first one is that if a fascist group decided to campaign for a widely supported cause (say, prevention of sex abuse against kids), such group woul still be hated by the public because they are dirty stinking fascist.

    Which maks me wonder why BLM gets so much support in this regard. Is it beca communism is more socially acceptable? Or because the article is a piece of cr**?

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    After the Obama administration, there's been hyper sensitivity towards
    anything considered anti-black, even mentioning black on black crime. As stated, I believe the core leaderhsip is more radical than what we see,
    however any attempts to expose this will get you labelled as a rascist and
    the cancel culture folk will attack and shame you into oblivion.

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  • From MRO@BBSESINF to HusTler on Sun Jun 28 00:28:52 2020
    Re: Black Lives Matter and Marxist affiliations
    By: HusTler to Arelor on Sat Jun 27 2020 10:58 pm

    https://www.theblaze.com/news/black-lives-matter-founder-marxist-trump

    Which maks me wonder why BLM gets so much support in this regard. Is it because communism is more socially acceptable? Or because the article i piece of cr**?

    The article is a piece of cr**p.

    why do you think that.
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  • From paulie420@PAULIE42 to Arelor on Sat Jun 27 17:52:54 2020
    Re: Black Lives Matter and Marxist affiliations
    By: Arelor to All on Sat Jun 27 2020 04:09 pm

    Some affirmations the article makes:

    1) BLM is not a laser focused anti racism group but a generic platform for the spread of left-wing poliicies.
    2) A co-founder of the movement declares that the founding group is compound of "trained marxists".
    3) A stated goal of the group is to kick Trump out of office.

    Any thoughts?

    I agree that black lives matter. However, I do not support the BLM movement in America. I only go off of what I've witnessed and felt; when I went to a BLM protest, I could feel the hate, violence and racism in the air.. it was apparent & thick.

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  • From paulie420@PAULIE42 to MRO on Sat Jun 27 17:55:44 2020
    Re: Black Lives Matter and Marxist affiliations
    By: MRO to Arelor on Sat Jun 27 2020 06:56 pm

    if you dont like them you are a racist. just saying something bad about them gets you branded as such. they even picked the name of that group so if you are agains them, you are a racist.

    And that is bullshit, too.

    It is true that black lives matter, however; the Black Lives Matter movement in America is a violent and racist group.

    It's sad, because I'm sure the intentions weren't to create such a group - or that some of the original members just wanted change for black Americans. I will not support them at all, although I do want change for any racism in America; just not with the BLM movement.

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  • From HusTler@HAVENS to MRO on Sun Jun 28 07:58:07 2020
    Re: Black Lives Matter and Marxist affiliations
    By: MRO to HusTler on Sun Jun 28 2020 12:28 am

    https://www.theblaze.com/news/black-lives-matter-founder-marxist-t
    rump
    Which maks me wonder why BLM gets so much support in this regard.
    Is it because communism is more socially acceptable? Or because

    The article is a piece of cr**p.

    why do you think that.

    It's all just rhetoric. They think they're gangstas. They just want to spread fear among U.S. citizens. Does anyone remember the Black Panthers? Where are those mf's now? They're looking for a Race War and if they keep it up they're gonna get it.

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  • From Dumas Walker@CAPCITY2 to ARELOR on Sun Jun 28 11:06:00 2020
    1) BLM is not a laser focused anti racism group but a generic platform for the >spread of left-wing poliicies.

    I do not know about the claims in the article, but I do know that donations
    to "BLM" don't necessarily go to the cause of stopping racism. The "excess" gets funneled through to various Democratic political campains, including to Biden, to at least two Sanders groups, Warren, a couple of other former Presidential hopefuls, and to a lady who is running for the Democratic nomination in Kentucky which would set her up to face Mitch McConnell in November.

    She was the only one on the list I saw that was not a current or former
    2020 Presidential hopeful. Ironically, one of her opponents is an African-American man (she is white) who, last I heard, was leading her in
    the vote count.

    The only reason I can think of that they back her and not him is because
    they are more focused on unseating Republicans than anything else, and she
    is believed to be the one who could most-likely win in November.

    2) A co-founder of the movement declares that the founding group is compound of
    "trained marxists".

    I have heard one of their spokespeople talk about "blowing up the system"
    if they don't get what they want. That sounds marxist, but I don't know if this claim is true.

    3) A stated goal of the group is to kick Trump out of office.

    IIRC, BLM started before he took office, but I don't know what their goals
    are now.

    My first one is that if a fascist group decided to campaign for a widely supported cause (say, prevention of sex abuse against kids), such group would still be hated by the public because they are dirty stinking fascist.

    Which maks me wonder why BLM gets so much support in this regard. Is it becaus
    communism is more socially acceptable? Or because the article is a piece of cr**?

    A lot of dumb Americans believe that communism is a good thing. They are willing to overlook that it has always lead to an authoritarian state (just like fascism), suppression of individual rights (just like fascism), and a whole lot of innocent people being systematically killed by the government (just like fascism in Germany). They somehow have the mistaken idea that people are all equal under communism, or that they somehow will be above
    the group that becomes the "targets" because they support the cause. The
    dead in the USSR and Communist China include many who were once supporters
    of the cause (again, just like in fascist Germany).

    Somehow, marxism/communism has become associated with being intellectual.
    To my knowledge, fascism (outside of pre-WWII Germany) never has obtained
    such an association. That, and there are Hollywood sorts involved. Dumb Americans mistake them for intellectuals and believe their opinions are
    more informed than everyone else.


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  • From Dumas Walker@CAPCITY2 to MOONDOG on Sun Jun 28 10:56:00 2020
    After the Obama administration, there's been hyper sensitivity towards anything considered anti-black, even mentioning black on black crime. As stated, I believe the core leaderhsip is more radical than what we see, however any attempts to expose this will get you labelled as a rascist and the cancel culture folk will attack and shame you into oblivion.

    I would change the first word above to "During and after," but the rest of
    it is pretty spot on. If there is anything unsavory about their
    objectives, you don't want to be the one to point it out.


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  • From MRO@BBSESINF to Moondog on Sun Jun 28 20:37:43 2020
    Re: Black Lives Matter and Ma
    By: Moondog to Arelor on Sat Jun 27 2020 11:42 pm

    After the Obama administration, there's been hyper sensitivity towards anything considered anti-black, even mentioning black on black crime. As stated, I believe the core leaderhsip is more radical than what we see, however any attempts to expose this will get you labelled as a rascist and the cancel culture folk will attack and shame you into oblivion.
    the cancel culture folk will attack and shame you into oblivion.


    just saying anything bad about obama got you labeled as racist.
    on fb a liberal rep said if you say anything bad about obama, it is racist.

    and i said 'no matter what'? and she didnt reply.
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  • From MRO@BBSESINF to HusTler on Sun Jun 28 20:38:46 2020
    Re: Black Lives Matter and Marxist affiliations
    By: HusTler to MRO on Sun Jun 28 2020 07:58 am


    The article is a piece of cr**p.

    why do you think that.

    It's all just rhetoric. They think they're gangstas. They just want to spre


    yes, but the article detailed what they said and what they do with the money they get.
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  • From MRO@BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Sun Jun 28 20:39:45 2020
    Re: Black Lives Matter and Ma
    By: Dumas Walker to ARELOR on Sun Jun 28 2020 11:06 am

    1) BLM is not a laser focused anti racism group but a generic platform for >spread of left-wing poliicies.

    I do not know about the claims in the article, but I do know that donations to "BLM" don't necessarily go to the cause of stopping racism. The "excess" gets funneled through to various Democratic political campains, including to


    they had some type of leak recently. i guess 6% goes to what you would expect it to go to. community programs, etc.
    the rest goes to travel and unspecified expenses and costs.
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  • From Moondog@CAVEBBS to MRO on Mon Jun 29 09:11:00 2020
    Re: Black Lives Matter and Ma
    By: MRO to Moondog on Sun Jun 28 2020 08:37 pm

    Re: Black Lives Matter and Ma
    By: Moondog to Arelor on Sat Jun 27 2020 11:42 pm

    After the Obama administration, there's been hyper sensitivity towards anything considered anti-black, even mentioning black on black crime. As stated, I believe the core leaderhsip is more radical than what we see, however any attempts to expose this will get you labelled as a rascist an the cancel culture folk will attack and shame you into oblivion.
    the cancel culture folk will attack and shame you into oblivion.


    just saying anything bad about obama got you labeled as racist.
    on fb a liberal rep said if you say anything bad about obama, it is racist.

    and i said 'no matter what'? and she didnt reply.

    I heard a term yesterday called "black supremacy." Get caught saying
    anything negative or remotely rascist, and you'll be forced to take a knee
    and askj for fogiveness of your ancestors.

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  • From HusTler@HAVENS to MRO on Mon Jun 29 15:31:01 2020
    Re: Black Lives Matter and Marxist affiliations
    By: MRO to HusTler on Sun Jun 28 2020 08:38 pm

    The article is a piece of cr**p.

    why do you think that.

    It's all just rhetoric. They think they're gangstas. They just want to
    spre


    yes, but the article detailed what they said and what they do with the money they get.

    I'm not familiar with the website or the author. There's a lot of rhetoric on the internet. Especially from the left. I spend most of my time on conservative sites and disregard anything from the left.

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  • From Dumas Walker@CAPCITY2 to Arelor on Mon Jun 29 16:32:47 2020
    Here is something that might be of interest, since you asked.

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/jamiel-shaw-murdered-illegal-immigrant-black-live s-matter-george-floyd

    https://tinyurl.com/y9j9m23x

    "It seems like Black Lives Matter only focuses on black people who were murdered by the police," Jamiel Shaw said. "You know, my son was murdered in 2008, and I reached out to anybody that would listen, especially black people, because I thought for sure I would have a lot of support in the black community.

    "But, because of the illegal aliens and the way they get all the support in California, no one would jump on board because they didn't want to have to, you know, justify the illegal-alien part. So, they just let me go by myself."

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  • From Tracker1@TRN to Dumas Walker on Tue Jun 30 12:51:13 2020
    On 6/28/2020 8:06 AM, Dumas Walker wrote:
    A lot of dumb Americans believe that communism is a good thing. They are willing to overlook that it has always lead to an authoritarian state (just like fascism), suppression of individual rights (just like fascism), and a whole lot of innocent people being systematically killed by the government (just like fascism in Germany). They somehow have the mistaken idea that people are all equal under communism, or that they somehow will be above
    the group that becomes the "targets" because they support the cause. The dead in the USSR and Communist China include many who were once supporters
    of the cause (again, just like in fascist Germany).

    Somehow, marxism/communism has become associated with being intellectual.
    To my knowledge, fascism (outside of pre-WWII Germany) never has obtained such an association. That, and there are Hollywood sorts involved. Dumb Americans mistake them for intellectuals and believe their opinions are
    more informed than everyone else.

    It's like a repeate of early 1900's Russia. Nobody respects or
    understands the past... because, "it'll be different this time."

    Funny (ironic) that the closest example of socialism working today is
    modern Germany, while also being the closest to economic fascism.

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  • From Dennisk@DUNGEON to HusTler on Tue Jun 30 22:26:00 2020
    HusTler wrote to MRO <=-

    Re: Black Lives Matter and Marxist affiliations
    By: MRO to HusTler on Sun Jun 28 2020 08:38 pm

    The article is a piece of cr**p.

    why do you think that.

    It's all just rhetoric. They think they're gangstas. They just want to
    spre


    yes, but the article detailed what they said and what they do with the money they get.

    I'm not familiar with the website or the author. There's a lot of rhetoric on the internet. Especially from the left. I spend most of my time on conservative sites and disregard anything from the left.

    Tim Pool has some excellent commentary on the 'culture war', if you search from him on YouTube. There are few people around today who still have a grip on reality, and he is one of them. He made a point that I've been musing on for, well, years actually.

    I think what we are seeing in these "BLM" protests, or more generally, the "Woke" movement, is actually a new religion. The Wokesters have appropriated the BLM movement for their own purposes (which were intially noble), because it is a known brand and supported angle. There is much about what is going in which just screams religion. The iconoclasm. The idea of being born a sinner (White Privilege). The accusations of heresy (bigotry). The requirement not just to not be evil, but actively voice support and to by an "ally". The faith based nature of their beliefs. The chants and repetitive affirmations. I think this is another evil forcing its way on us, and like ALL EVILS, it posits itself as good, virtious, that it is made of people who for the first time in history truly represent the right values and virtues. And people are buying into it. The see this as an emerging good, but it is just a new evil, patterned after many older evils.

    Remember, centuries ago people were tortured by having molten lead poured into gaping wounds in the name of "mercy".

    Political Correctness was always a religion moreso than anything else, but in the last few years, especially just now, its taken off and has become what it really always was trying to be. A new faith based belief system.

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  • From Arelor@PALANT to Dennisk on Wed Jul 1 04:18:38 2020
    Re: Black Lives Matter and Ma
    By: Dennisk to HusTler on Tue Jun 30 2020 10:26 pm


    I think what we are seeing in these "BLM" protests, or more generally, the "Woke" movement, is actually a new religion. The Wokesters have appropriated the BLM movem
    for their own purposes (which were intially noble), because it is a known brand and supported angle. There is much about what is going in which just screams religion
    The iconoclasm. The idea of being born a sinner (White Privilege). The accusations of heresy (bigotry). The requirement not just to not be evil, but actively voice
    support and to by an "ally". The faith based nature of their beliefs. The chants and repetitive affirmations. I think this is another evil forcing its way on us, a
    like ALL EVILS, it posits itself as good, virtious, that it is made of people who for the first time in history truly represent the right values and virtues. And peo
    are buying into it. The see this as an emerging good, but it is just a new evil, patterned after many older evils.

    Remember, centuries ago people were tortured by having molten lead poured into gaping wounds in the name of "mercy".

    Political Correctness was always a religion moreso than anything else, but in the last few years, especially just now, its taken off and has become what it really alw
    was trying to be. A new faith based belief system.

    Well said.

    Nothing else to add.

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