• CHAZ

    From paulie420@PAULIE42 to All on Sat Jun 13 13:45:02 2020
    So I'm spending some time today watching whats going on in Seattle.. I heard about it this week, and a quick recap for anyone who doesn't know:
    Protesters have taken over 3 city blocks in Seattle.. the police retreated and in a push to have the federal government respond, the right is trying to push the narrative that these people have started a new country & that we need to go in and shut it down.

    I've watched many videos of the protest/'occupation' being violent, anarchist and a takeover. Yes, it is there.

    I've also watched live streams from yesterday and today, 6/13 Saturday, of whats REALLY happening... and for the most part, it looks like a protest... not much violence, BUT theres no police presence so... they kinda have what they want IN THIS MOMENT - I bet there will be violence when the cops go in.

    The cops are planning on taking the precinct building back... planning on 'taking the 3 city blocks back'... but are staying away for now; what I've heard is theat their gauge on WHEN to do that is their response times for incoming calls...

    Their response time, currently, is 3x normal... they used to be able to respond in 5 minutes, and right now its 18 minutes... you know, for the cops to respond even to a call FROM these protestors... or citizens in that area.

    Yesterday I would have said just go in there and shut this shit down. Its crazy... and, I guess I'm still there - just now I see that there are normal people there just protesting. Gosh - this is all a mess...

    I think a huge underlying issue here is: Don't these folks know that we're in a pandemic.... jesus, in 1918 the second wave of the virus was the one that killed the most people. I think our country is headed right back there.



    WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT CHAZ? (The Seattle takeover of 3 city blocks by protestors; rioters)

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  • From Arelor to paulie420 on Sat Jun 13 14:25:39 2020
    Re: CHAZ
    By: paulie420 to All on Sat Jun 13 2020 01:45 pm

    WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT CHAZ? (The Seattle takeover of 3 city blocks by protestors; rioters)

    Those people are lucky to be in a progressive country instead of some Asian hellhole. Try seizing a city block in the MIddle East and see what happens.

    The Italian Fasci only got really dangerous when they seized a village and nobody did anything to stop them. Before that, they were just terrorists that beat random people every now adn then - which is bad enough, but not as bad as what came next.

    What this people is doing is to take a piece of land and claim sovereignity on it, and since they have the support of the local authorities they can get away with it. To be honest, these people would be classified as rebels in most jurisdictions, alongside Seattle authorities that side with them, regardless how peaceful or not they are.

    What I find concerning is not the rebels at the base of the pyramid, but the fact elected officers are so comfortable with the situation, at least in public. My take is that they are allowing the show to go on because they think they are going to unstabilize the Federal governmetn and Trump.
  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@OTHETA to PAULIE420 on Sat Jun 20 11:45:00 2020
    PAULIE420 wrote to ALL <=-

    WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT CHAZ? (The Seattle takeover of 3 city blocks by protestors; rioters)

    My knee jerk reaction is - wow, this is crazy.

    But what do I think? I think I'm all the way across the country from it (Tennessee) so I don't know the real story. Part of me sees the media
    blowing it out of proportion, but then again I see it as a chance for the government to 'send in troops' and escalate things. I'm a big believer of personal freedom, so people have the right to protest. That's part of the constitution. But if they are succeeding from the Union? Well, we tried
    that 150 years ago and were invaded, so I think that will happen again
    if things aren't reconciled...

    And to be clear, it's not that I don't care - I do - I care about my
    fellow humans - but how does what they are reportedly doing solving
    anything?




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  • From paulie420@PAULIE42 to JIMMY ANDERSON on Sat Jun 20 20:49:47 2020
    Re: Re: CHAZ
    By: JIMMY ANDERSON to PAULIE420 on Sat Jun 20 2020 11:45 am

    WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT CHAZ? (The Seattle takeover of 3 city blocks
    by protestors; rioters)

    My knee jerk reaction is - wow, this is crazy.

    But what do I think? I think I'm all the way across the country from it (Tennessee) so I don't know the real story. Part of me sees the media blowing it out of proportion, but then again I see it as a chance for the government to 'send in troops' and escalate things. I'm a big believer of personal freedom, so people have the right to protest. That's part of the constitution. But if they are succeeding from the Union? Well, we tried that 150 years ago and were invaded, so I think that will happen again
    if things aren't reconciled...

    Well, Saturday 6/20 update.. someone was shot and killed inside the 'CHAZ' or 'CHOP'... and the armed gaurds wouldn't let police inside the site to render help for the victim.

    So, IMO, and this sucks because... Jesus, give the guy any more firepower to be an idiot... but... send in the support; take that area back over. Now. You don't gotta go home, but you can't stay here...

    Long enough. I support and agree that 'black lives matter'... I don't support unlawful takeover of an American city. Done.

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  • From Nodoka Hanamura@NEOCINCI to paulie420 on Wed Jun 24 07:25:00 2020
    On 20 Jun 2020, paulie420 said the following...

    Re: Re: CHAZ
    By: JIMMY ANDERSON to PAULIE420 on
    Sat Jun 20 2020 11:45 am

    WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT CHAZ? (The Seattle takeover of 3 city blocks
    by protestors; rioters)

    My knee jerk reaction is - wow, this is crazy.

    But what do I think? I think I'm all the way across the country from (Tennessee) so I don't know the real story. Part of me sees the media blowing it out of proportion, but then again I see it as a chance for government to 'send in troops' and escalate things. I'm a big believe personal freedom, so people have the right to protest. That's part of constitution. But if they are succeeding from the Union? Well, we tri that 150 years ago and were invaded, so I think that will happen agai if things aren't reconciled...

    Well, Saturday 6/20 update.. someone was shot and killed inside the 'CHAZ' 'CHOP'... and the armed gaurds wouldn't let police inside the site to rend help for the victim.

    So, IMO, and this sucks because... Jesus, give the guy any more firepower

    an idiot... but... send in the support; take that area back over. Now. You don't gotta go home, but you can't stay here...

    Long enough. I support and agree that 'black lives matter'... I don't supp unlawful takeover of an American city. Done.

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    It appears that the Mayor's calling for the dissolution of the CHAZ after
    that debacle. The ancoms had their time in the sun and they fucked up. Honestly, I don't see why they wouldn't have implemented some kind of
    domestic medical response if they were adamant about keeping cops out. But
    then again, these are the same people who didn't understand it's common procedure to have authorities clear an area before EMS services can be rendered.

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