• Fido over the Internet

    From Steve Helferich@1:218/903 to All on Wed Jul 24 03:08:52 2002
    Hi all,

    I would like to join some more message networks but don't really have a clue how to go about getting packets over the internet. I run Wildcat 5 and Platinum Xpress and get my Fido packets via dial up. I have never attempted
    to set up anything over the internet. What programs would you suggest I check out? Which are the easiest to set up and which work the best? I need something that would be compatible with Wildcat 5 and will run in Windows
    2000. I would like something that is automated that would possibly integrate with Platinum Xpress. Any suggestions?

    Thanks!

    Steve

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  • From MICHEL SAMSON@1:218/903 to STEVE HELFERICH on Thu Jul 25 05:11:00 2002
    Hi Steve,

    About "Fido over the Internet" of July 24:

    I would like to join some more message networks but don't really
    have a clue how to go about getting packets over the internet. I
    run Wildcat 5... ...and get my Fido packets via dial up. I have
    never attempted to set up anything over the internet. What programs
    would you suggest I check out? I need something that would be
    compatible with Wildcat 5 and will run in Windows 2000.

    Since you're a SysOp, you may know that i can do little to help you
    if you saw my previous post - yet, you can help me, on the other hand!!!

    ;^)

    `COM/IP v3.00' (http://www.tacticalsoftware.com) is popular for BBS
    use but BBSers can run a regular terminal emulator over it as well... I
    was told that `MS-Kermit' (http://netlab1.usu.edu/pub/kermit) just won't
    be an option under `Win 2K' - no specific reason was given; perhaps you
    might want to evaluate `COM/IP' and, while you're at it, why not run the `MSK31610.EXE' `Kermit' executable (after `TSNT14.COM') from a .BAT file
    which itself would be run from a .PIF file?... `COM/IP' is said to work particularily well in a `Win 2K' environment. ;-) If you agree, you'll
    have to issue this command once at the `Kermit' COMMAND-LINE: "Set Port
    Fossil #" (where "#" is the COM port, i.e. for COM5 "#"=5). When that's
    done, you will connect to a ~TelNet~ BBS by using the following `COM/IP' command from the `MS-Kermit' TERMINAL... To do it you'd 1st type "Conn"
    (an abreviation for "Connect") from the `Kermit' COMMAND-LINE. Then, it
    is easy to "dial" to any remote ~TelNet~ system as if it were by DialUp;
    which is one reason why `COM/IP' became popular: regular programs still
    work with its help (i've tested `TerMail' as a point over ~TelNet~ using
    a similar concept, actually)... Anyway, when you're talking to `COM/IP'
    the command might be something like "ATDT juge.com", for example, that's
    one of the rare ~TelNet~ BBSes to support `Kermit' file transfers). ;-)

    Again, "Set Port Fossil #", "Conn", "ATDT juge.com"... That should
    do just fine! If you can connect, that means someone made a mistake!...

    :>

    `COM/IP' creates a synthetic serial-port where you have no HardWare counter-part; here i used COM5. The `Windows' parameters should enable
    the ~INT-14~ feature, i believe you better install it from the start!...

    :)

    As for what more SysOps can run over `COM/IP', i'm not in the right position to help but let me just mention that the BBS, from my tearline, happens to be running a recent `WildCat! v5.5x' BBS SoftWare package and
    i'm not shure it even needs help from `COM/IP' at all, to be honnest!...

    P-)

    One last note: since you mentioned your preferences for `WildCat!'
    i'll point at the fact that the internal `Kermit' protocol is cripled to
    no end (pre-1985 packet-size) - one may as well disable it completely!!!

    ;->

    Salutations,

    Michel Samson
    www3.sympatico.ca/bicephale
    a/s Bicephale


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  • From Steve Helferich@1:218/903 to Michel Samson on Thu Jul 25 14:45:32 2002
    uhh... Not really what I was looking for, but thanks for the reply. I
    did use COM/IP for a few weeks while I was using a DOS based BBS but
    decided to buy Wildcat 5 instead of registering COM/IP.

    I did begin setting up Internet Rex, which looks like it is compatible
    with my set up. Now I am just waiting to get my node numbers... At
    this rate, it may take awhile.


    Hi Steve,

    About "Fido over the Internet" of July 24:

    I would like to join some more message networks but don't really
    have a clue how to go about getting packets over the internet. I
    run Wildcat 5... ...and get my Fido packets via dial up. I have
    never attempted to set up anything over the internet. What programs would you suggest I check out? I need something that would be compatible with Wildcat 5 and will run in Windows 2000.

    Since you're a SysOp, you may know that i can do little to help you
    if you saw my previous post - yet, you can help me, on the other hand!!!

    ;^)

    `COM/IP v3.00' (http://www.tacticalsoftware.com) is popular for BBS
    use but BBSers can run a regular terminal emulator over it as well... I
    was told that `MS-Kermit' (http://netlab1.usu.edu/pub/kermit) just won't
    be an option under `Win 2K' - no specific reason was given; perhaps you might want to evaluate `COM/IP' and, while you're at it, why not run the `MSK31610.EXE' `Kermit' executable (after `TSNT14.COM') from a .BAT file which itself would be run from a .PIF file?... `COM/IP' is said to work particularily well in a `Win 2K' environment. ;-) If you agree, you'll have to issue this command once at the `Kermit' COMMAND-LINE: "Set Port Fossil #" (where "#" is the COM port, i.e. for COM5 "#"=5). When that's done, you will connect to a ~TelNet~ BBS by using the following `COM/IP' command from the `MS-Kermit' TERMINAL... To do it you'd 1st type "Conn"
    (an abreviation for "Connect") from the `Kermit' COMMAND-LINE. Then, it
    is easy to "dial" to any remote ~TelNet~ system as if it were by DialUp; which is one reason why `COM/IP' became popular: regular programs still work with its help (i've tested `TerMail' as a point over ~TelNet~ using
    a similar concept, actually)... Anyway, when you're talking to `COM/IP'
    the command might be something like "ATDT juge.com", for example, that's
    one of the rare ~TelNet~ BBSes to support `Kermit' file transfers). ;-)

    Again, "Set Port Fossil #", "Conn", "ATDT juge.com"... That should
    do just fine! If you can connect, that means someone made a mistake!...

    :>

    `COM/IP' creates a synthetic serial-port where you have no HardWare counter-part; here i used COM5. The `Windows' parameters should enable
    the ~INT-14~ feature, i believe you better install it from the start!...

    :)

    As for what more SysOps can run over `COM/IP', i'm not in the right position to help but let me just mention that the BBS, from my tearline, happens to be running a recent `WildCat! v5.5x' BBS SoftWare package and
    i'm not shure it even needs help from `COM/IP' at all, to be honnest!...

    P-)

    One last note: since you mentioned your preferences for `WildCat!' i'll point at the fact that the internal `Kermit' protocol is cripled to
    no end (pre-1985 packet-size) - one may as well disable it completely!!!

    ;->

    Salutations,

    Michel Samson
    www3.sympatico.ca/bicephale
    a/s Bicephale


    ... This post could have been made with DOS+TCP/IP+TelNet+Kermit+.QWK...
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  • From Warren Hrach@1:218/903 to Steve Helferich on Thu Jul 25 21:20:28 2002
    Hi all,

    I would like to join some more message networks but don't really have a clue how to go about getting packets over the internet. I run Wildcat 5 and Platinum Xpress and get my Fido packets via dial up. I have never attempted
    to set up anything over the internet. What programs would you suggest I check
    out? Which are the easiest to set up and which work the best? I need something that would be compatible with Wildcat 5 and will run in Windows 2000. I would like something that is automated that would possibly integrate with Platinum Xpress. Any suggestions?

    Thanks!

    Steve

    Steve,
    Of course I will tell you to install Linux first but if that is not what your willing to try then look for a free win2000 bbs package. One that you can run as a point or, if you can find a free ztelnet application that works on win2000 you can telnet to my bbs and download mail pkts via ztelnet. I don't know about the regular windows telnet. If it's like the telnet for Linux it has no zmodem included, ztelnet does.

    Then get MultiMail which is an off-line mail reader. It is free and all you need is to find it and download it. There are versions for windows, and linux.

    Of course you need an ISP for internet access and that can be either a cable modem on a cable tv source. Or a dsl provider, not as good as cable modem access in general.

    As for an internet provider, ISP, I don't recommend AOL nor MSN but will tell you that 'nethere.net' is one of the best deals going. They have dialup, use a

    56k modem, and you will find it excellant. Only $10/month full access.

    Of course you can still use a cable modem and they usually have there own ISP such as cox.net which I have. I cannot advise on a DSL provider, maybe others in your area can. Depends on where you live.

    On word of warning, If you get an ISP be sure you setup a firewall and get the best virus detector you can buy. Windows, all versions, are prone to get infected or cracked, sometimes in minutes of hooking up.

    I run RedHat V7.2 Linux and run my bbs on BBBS which is shareware. I get my mail via internet access and get about 50-100 meg of zipped mail a day. Speed is up to 18-19kbps.

    I don't run the dialup node anymore, no one calls that way anymore, but do have

    5 telnet nodes. You can reach via 'telnet ob.darktech.org' and read mail here.

    You can email me if you need more info, 'warren11@cox.net'

    Warren Hrach, Moderator Linux-User echo. Sysop Ocean Beach BBS since 1988.

    Ocean Beach is part of San Diego, CA.

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  • From Russell Tiedt@1:218/903 to Steve Helferich on Thu Jul 25 23:02:02 2002
    Hello Steve.

    24 Jul 02 01:08, you wrote to all:

    I would like to join some more message networks but don't really have
    a clue how to go about getting packets over the internet. I run
    Wildcat 5 and Platinum Xpress and get my Fido packets via dial up. I
    have never attempted to set up anything over the internet. What
    programs would you suggest I check out? Which are the easiest to set
    up and which work the best? I need something that would be compatible with Wildcat 5 and will run in Windows 2000. I would like something
    that is automated that would possibly integrate
    with Platinum Xpress. Any suggestions?

    Not familiar wit h Wilcat / PlatinumXpress, but, grt yourself a copy of BinKD /BinkP or ifyou want more options, get InternetRex.

    Russell

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  • From MICHEL SAMSON@1:218/903 to STEVE HELFERICH on Fri Jul 26 02:08:00 2002
    Hi Steve,

    About "Fido over the Internet" of July 25:

    I did use COM/IP for a few weeks while I was using a DOS based BBS
    but decided to buy Wildcat 5 instead of registering COM/IP. Now I
    am just waiting... At this rate, it may take awhile.
    ^^^^^^^
    I know the feeling Steve, i know the feeling!!! Well, good luck...

    Salutations, :)

    Michel Samson
    www3.sympatico.ca/bicephale
    a/s Bicephale


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  • From Stephane Garceau@1:218/903 to Steve Helferich on Fri Jul 26 01:57:17 2002
    I would like to join some more message networks but don't really have a clue how to go about getting packets over the internet. I run Wildcat 5 and Platinum Xpress and get my Fido packets via dial up. I have never attempted to set up anything over the internet. What programs would you suggest I check out? Which are the easiest to set up and which work the best?
    I need something that would be compatible with Wildcat 5 and will
    run in Windows 2000. I would like something that is automated
    that would possibly integrate with Platinum Xpress. Any suggestions?


    You can use TransX or Irex to transfer packets over the Internet.

    ciao

    Stephane


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  • From Renato Zambon@1:218/903 to Steve Helferich on Sat Jul 27 23:09:27 2002
    I would like to join some more message networks but don't really
    have a clue how to go about getting packets over the internet. I
    run Wildcat 5 and Platinum Xpress and get my Fido packets via dial
    up. I have never attempted to set up anything over the internet.
    What programs would you suggest I check out? Which are the easiest
    to set up and which work the best? I need something that would be compatible with Wildcat 5 and will run in Windows 2000. I would
    like something that is automated that would possibly integrate with Platinum Xpress. Any suggestions?

    TransX (http://www.multiboard.com) or Irex are very good (http://plaza.v-wave.com/InternetRex). Both are PX compatible, fully
    automated, works with dial-up or dedicated connections. I think they
    are similar in setup easiness/difficulty and reliability.

    I do use TransX (for email in 3 formats: transx, uuencode, mime/
    base64; and ftp links) plus BinkD (for binkp links), but Irex today
    is more complete (has all these options and more, with DOS, OS/2,
    W32 and Linux versions).

    BinkD is free, source available, but can need some extra work to
    integrate with your mailer if it isn't Binkley-style, and works only
    with BinkP protocol (most of my links are of this type today, very
    efficient and reliable, but needs both systems connected at the same
    time, not practical if both use dial-up for example but good if one
    has a dedicated and not congested link to act as server) Irex does
    have BinkP also (and much more).

    Their support areas in Fido are MCC_SUPPORT, BINKD and IREX.

    My system can offer email links to those interested (with many int'l
    and regional/language oriented groups of echomail, or just for faster netmails), more details in http://www.rbt.com.br/app-hidr.txt

    []s
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  • From Russell Tiedt@1:218/903 to Renato Zambon on Sun Jul 28 22:30:41 2002
    Hello Renato.

    27 Jul 02 21:09, you wrote to Steve Helferich:

    TransX (http://www.multiboard.com) or Irex are very good
    "http://members.shaw.ca/InternetRex/" is the current URL for IREX.

    And IREX is very nice thank you, I use without hassles.

    Enjoy!

    Russell

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  • From IB JOE@1:218/903 to STEVE HELFERICH on Mon Jul 29 09:31:40 2002
    get com/ip and use pxw


    I send mail to my hub over the net with pxw and com/ip it's been
    working for over a year.

    Joe



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    Hi all,

    I would like to join some more message networks but don't really have
    a clue how to go about getting packets over the internet. I run
    Wildcat 5 and Platinum Xpress and get my Fido packets via dial up. I
    have never attempted to set up anything over the internet. What
    programs would you suggest I check out? Which are the easiest to set
    up and which work the best? I need something that would be
    compatible with Wildcat 5 and will run in Windows 2000. I would like something that is automated that would possibly integrate with
    Platinum Xpress. Any suggestions?

    Thanks!

    Steve

    ... Platinum Xpress & Wildcat!..... Nice!!!!
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